The Syndicate

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:33 am @Alison So my comment about nutella's first post feels similar to the interesting tell. "Upgaymers" feels like a filler word. In a previous game on here I picked out Sloonei saying "spicy", which apparently people on here and MU both use. I'm trying to keep an open mind that it could very well be a community clash. But at the same time, it feels like it is something that wouldn't necessarily be said. I don't know if it could be too scummy to be scum or if the context of it is just this site players that commonly use words I'm not use to, which typing them feels of note, as it is uncommon for me to see it in game. But for me, it feels off. It's not directly aligned with a specific tell though.

wait this is the funniest thing ive ever seen

not sure, how I feel about all the lomo votes...hmm...I'm not caught up. But it seems like I keep seeing PerC wagons as if we are unwelcomed on someone's home turf...adk

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:45 am not sure, how I feel about all the lomo votes...hmm...I'm not caught up. But it seems like I keep seeing PerC wagons as if we are unwelcomed on someone's home turf...adk

Hmm you are accusing the Syndicate players of being anti-immigrant?

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:44 am

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:33 am @Alison So my comment about nutella's first post feels similar to the interesting tell. "Upgaymers" feels like a filler word. In a previous game on here I picked out Sloonei saying "spicy", which apparently people on here and MU both use. I'm trying to keep an open mind that it could very well be a community clash. But at the same time, it feels like it is something that wouldn't necessarily be said. I don't know if it could be too scummy to be scum or if the context of it is just this site players that commonly use words I'm not use to, which typing them feels of note, as it is uncommon for me to see it in game. But for me, it feels off. It's not directly aligned with a specific tell though.

wait this is the funniest thing ive ever seen

For once i agree with you. Who would have thought?

Alison wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:37 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:35 pm @Alison whaddya like about Sloonjay

For Sloonei I just like his vibes.

For you it's because you haven't been performative about your usual JJJ routine, which I think you'd be more likely to as mafia in this game.

What's an usual JJJ routine look like? And is it usually alignment indicative?

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:40 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:24 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:23 pm It occurs to me that my typical first date experience is often a lot like my typical Day 1 experience in Mafia -- I feel like I have to do most of the talking to keep things moving, and it usually ends with me losing.

You’ve probably just been dating a lot of wolves. Don’t let them fool you.

Is dating a lot of wolves like kissing a lot of frogs before you find your one true love?
If so, I've dated too many wolves.
They've sweet talked me.
Let me know that I was their one and only.
And then, they made me cry.
I still believe in love and I hope that, in this lovely new place, I can find my one and only.
Who is it?

Its a shame epi is in retirement

Dana wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:45 pm
the wolves are so good at gaining everyones trust and then they just turn around and kill us all

hmm, do I trust the person with the cat avi? Sweet, innocent, cute looking kitty...hmm...they are probably...or maybe they will scratch me later...hmm...I think I should ignore my inclinations towards reading someone's avi. It's probably NAI.

Yeah avatars are probably nai

Just probably tho

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:45 am not sure, how I feel about all the lomo votes...hmm...I'm not caught up. But it seems like I keep seeing PerC wagons as if we are unwelcomed on someone's home turf...adk

Where are you up to?

Do you have any reads?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:49 pm
I mean it's fine but

Prs are more fun

PRs can be stressful though. Vts can let loose more.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:04 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:49 pm
I mean it's fine but

Prs are more fun

PRs can be stressful though. Vts can let loose more.

Not when you play it like I do

Tangrowth wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:54 pm How does one catch Alison as scum anyway? This is not a rhetorical question.

I don't know. I think you need to explain her playstyle or look for patterns in her playstyle over time.

Reasonably sure this is why it feels like mostly perc people with suspicion around them btw

Its not "OH NO NEW PEOPLE," its just a volume issue. The two highest posting perc people are guillo and sonny and afaik they're both fairly widely townread

Alison is also in my town circle

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:45 am not sure, how I feel about all the lomo votes...hmm...I'm not caught up. But it seems like I keep seeing PerC wagons as if we are unwelcomed on someone's home turf...adk

I really hate this AtE.

[VOTE: Owner] aubergine

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:47 am

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:45 am not sure, how I feel about all the lomo votes...hmm...I'm not caught up. But it seems like I keep seeing PerC wagons as if we are unwelcomed on someone's home turf...adk

Hmm you are accusing the Syndicate players of being anti-immigrant?

It's more like I'm entertaining this pattern where people vote off people that they don't really get or not use to, but that does kind of simplify it though.

POE: Allcrab, bad bunny, Kito, lost monkey, nutella, Owner

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:58 am Yeah avatars are probably nai

Just probably tho

My avatar is extremely townie

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:06 am

Tangrowth wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:54 pm How does one catch Alison as scum anyway? This is not a rhetorical question.

I don't know. I think you need to explain her playstyle or look for patterns in her playstyle over time.

Huh

Why does this post exist

Sonny wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:18 am Best Reads List Ever! Props for effort.

Definitely still have an unwavering Syndicate bias though. So if you're town, then best yeet would be Made in this scenario. Why are they scummy to you?

Made isn't really "scummy" to me. I don't bother much with asserting mafia reads at this stage of the game. I poke around for reasons to be suspicious, but it's rare for me to really go after things until later. I don't trust even good players to know what they're doing with most mafia reads at this point.

Made has done nothing to indicate to me that he is town. I don't struggle to see him as mafia. He's vote-worthy enough even if I can't do much better than shrug. If I want to reach into the suspicions basket I could say this: Made has elected to employ a gimmick, and it's typically easier to stay true to a gimmick when you're mafia than when you're town (given that town tend to want to say things eventually and gimmicks inhibit communication).

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:12 am

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:45 am not sure, how I feel about all the lomo votes...hmm...I'm not caught up. But it seems like I keep seeing PerC wagons as if we are unwelcomed on someone's home turf...adk

I really hate this AtE.

[VOTE: Owner] aubergine

It's not AtE. It's I see 4 votes on lomo that look steady or have been there for a period of time. Generally like 4 or 5 votes on someone is like there is probably scum in that wagon. Or it could mean like a cop check or something, but generally day 1 a wagon that size and potentially unmoving is kind of meh for me.

So from that point of view, I think he might be town, but I have yet to read his posts, so I don't know yet.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:15 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:58 am Yeah avatars are probably nai

Just probably tho

My avatar is extremely townie

True

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:13 am POE: Allcrab, bad bunny, Kito, lost monkey, nutella, Owner

one of these is not like the others

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:13 am POE: Allcrab, bad bunny, Kito, lost monkey, nutella, Owner

Do you have gripes with nutella's town reads?

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:44 am

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:33 am @Alison So my comment about nutella's first post feels similar to the interesting tell. "Upgaymers" feels like a filler word. In a previous game on here I picked out Sloonei saying "spicy", which apparently people on here and MU both use. I'm trying to keep an open mind that it could very well be a community clash. But at the same time, it feels like it is something that wouldn't necessarily be said. I don't know if it could be too scummy to be scum or if the context of it is just this site players that commonly use words I'm not use to, which typing them feels of note, as it is uncommon for me to see it in game. But for me, it feels off. It's not directly aligned with a specific tell though.

wait this is the funniest thing ive ever seen

Sweet, can you interpret it for me?

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:44 am

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:33 am @Alison So my comment about nutella's first post feels similar to the interesting tell. "Upgaymers" feels like a filler word. In a previous game on here I picked out Sloonei saying "spicy", which apparently people on here and MU both use. I'm trying to keep an open mind that it could very well be a community clash. But at the same time, it feels like it is something that wouldn't necessarily be said. I don't know if it could be too scummy to be scum or if the context of it is just this site players that commonly use words I'm not use to, which typing them feels of note, as it is uncommon for me to see it in game. But for me, it feels off. It's not directly aligned with a specific tell though.

wait this is the funniest thing ive ever seen

Perhaps you could clarify once and for all: What’s upgaymers?

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:16 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:12 am

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:45 am not sure, how I feel about all the lomo votes...hmm...I'm not caught up. But it seems like I keep seeing PerC wagons as if we are unwelcomed on someone's home turf...adk

I really hate this AtE.

[VOTE: Owner] aubergine

It's not AtE. It's I see 4 votes on lomo that look steady or have been there for a period of time. Generally like 4 or 5 votes on someone is like there is probably scum in that wagon. Or it could mean like a cop check or something, but generally day 1 a wagon that size and potentially unmoving is kind of meh for me.

So from that point of view, I think he might be town, but I have yet to read his posts, so I don't know yet.

lalala dadv isnt real it cant hurt me

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:45 am not sure, how I feel about all the lomo votes...hmm...I'm not caught up. But it seems like I keep seeing PerC wagons as if we are unwelcomed on someone's home turf...adk

It'd be super if you could take a look at lost monkey for yourself and tell me what you think.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:16 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:12 am

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:45 am not sure, how I feel about all the lomo votes...hmm...I'm not caught up. But it seems like I keep seeing PerC wagons as if we are unwelcomed on someone's home turf...adk

I really hate this AtE.

[VOTE: Owner] aubergine

It's not AtE. It's I see 4 votes on lomo that look steady or have been there for a period of time. Generally like 4 or 5 votes on someone is like there is probably scum in that wagon. Or it could mean like a cop check or something, but generally day 1 a wagon that size and potentially unmoving is kind of meh for me.

So from that point of view, I think he might be town, but I have yet to read his posts, so I don't know yet.

"PerC players are being wagoned by unwelcoming Syndicate players" -> "This specific wagon on a PerC player is probably scum-driven because of its static nature" doesn't connect. If you don't like the LoMo wagon because there's no resistance, say so. Framing it as a PerC vs Syndicate thing reads as fishing for an appeal to emotion, and doesn't really make sense if your primary concern was the size and fluidity of the wagon. It does make sense if you have TMI on LoMo so I'm very happy to vote you.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:18 am

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:16 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:12 am

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:45 am not sure, how I feel about all the lomo votes...hmm...I'm not caught up. But it seems like I keep seeing PerC wagons as if we are unwelcomed on someone's home turf...adk

I really hate this AtE.

[VOTE: Owner] aubergine

It's not AtE. It's I see 4 votes on lomo that look steady or have been there for a period of time. Generally like 4 or 5 votes on someone is like there is probably scum in that wagon. Or it could mean like a cop check or something, but generally day 1 a wagon that size and potentially unmoving is kind of meh for me.

So from that point of view, I think he might be town, but I have yet to read his posts, so I don't know yet.

lalala dadv isnt real it cant hurt me

what's lalala dadv? Or Is this someone I should know? Also, hate is a strong word, Alison. Is that definitely how you feel about it or is lesser than hate?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:17 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:13 am POE: Allcrab, bad bunny, Kito, lost monkey, nutella, Owner

Do you have gripes with nutella's town reads?

I have gripes with the fact that she hasn't really dug deep into the thread or developed strong convictions/pushes on her own. A lot of her posting feels shallow and touch-and-go on pretty surface level stuff. A lot of it is fluff. It reminds me of her posting in Modern Family hydra.

Sonny wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:17 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:44 am

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:33 am @Alison So my comment about nutella's first post feels similar to the interesting tell. "Upgaymers" feels like a filler word. In a previous game on here I picked out Sloonei saying "spicy", which apparently people on here and MU both use. I'm trying to keep an open mind that it could very well be a community clash. But at the same time, it feels like it is something that wouldn't necessarily be said. I don't know if it could be too scummy to be scum or if the context of it is just this site players that commonly use words I'm not use to, which typing them feels of note, as it is uncommon for me to see it in game. But for me, it feels off. It's not directly aligned with a specific tell though.

wait this is the funniest thing ive ever seen

Sweet, can you interpret it for me?

Basically she thinks my meme entry was suspicious or maybe not(?) because shes boomer and doesnt meme

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:20 am what's lalala dadv? Or Is this someone I should know? Also, hate is a strong word, Alison. Is that definitely how you feel about it or is lesser than hate?

I hate it and I have no idea why this is a point you care about.

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:21 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:17 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:13 am POE: Allcrab, bad bunny, Kito, lost monkey, nutella, Owner

Do you have gripes with nutella's town reads?

I have gripes with the fact that she hasn't really dug deep into the thread or developed strong convictions/pushes on her own. A lot of her posting feels shallow and touch-and-go on pretty surface level stuff. A lot of it is fluff. It reminds me of her posting in Modern Family hydra.

Did she produce lots of town reads in Modern Family? I ask because I didn't follow closely, and nutella's willingness to put that set together is the best thing going for her here I think.

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:20 am

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:16 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:12 am

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:45 am not sure, how I feel about all the lomo votes...hmm...I'm not caught up. But it seems like I keep seeing PerC wagons as if we are unwelcomed on someone's home turf...adk

I really hate this AtE.

[VOTE: Owner] aubergine

It's not AtE. It's I see 4 votes on lomo that look steady or have been there for a period of time. Generally like 4 or 5 votes on someone is like there is probably scum in that wagon. Or it could mean like a cop check or something, but generally day 1 a wagon that size and potentially unmoving is kind of meh for me.

So from that point of view, I think he might be town, but I have yet to read his posts, so I don't know yet.

"PerC players are being wagoned by unwelcoming Syndicate players" -> "This specific wagon on a PerC player is probably scum-driven because of its static nature" doesn't connect. If you don't like the LoMo wagon because there's no resistance, say so. Framing it as a PerC vs Syndicate thing reads as fishing for an appeal to emotion, and doesn't really make sense if your primary concern was the size and fluidity of the wagon. It does make sense if you have TMI on LoMo so I'm very happy to vote you.

mmmm spicy

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:23 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:21 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:17 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:13 am POE: Allcrab, bad bunny, Kito, lost monkey, nutella, Owner

Do you have gripes with nutella's town reads?

I have gripes with the fact that she hasn't really dug deep into the thread or developed strong convictions/pushes on her own. A lot of her posting feels shallow and touch-and-go on pretty surface level stuff. A lot of it is fluff. It reminds me of her posting in Modern Family hydra.

Did she produce lots of town reads in Modern Family? I ask because I didn't follow closely, and nutella's willingness to put that set together is the best thing going for her here I think.

Not a lot. A normal amount, I'd say.

I'm current mulling your argument over that nutella is producing lots of townreads and wouldn't do so as scum. I think I remember her agreeing with the (fairly large) towncore in Radiohead where she was scum, but that game had a very different dynamic.

[VOTE: Owner] aubergine

Let's see how this feels.

Tell me things, Owner.

(also, psst, Nutella said "Spicy", check it out!)

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:23 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:20 am

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:16 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:12 am

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:45 am not sure, how I feel about all the lomo votes...hmm...I'm not caught up. But it seems like I keep seeing PerC wagons as if we are unwelcomed on someone's home turf...adk

I really hate this AtE.

[VOTE: Owner] aubergine

It's not AtE. It's I see 4 votes on lomo that look steady or have been there for a period of time. Generally like 4 or 5 votes on someone is like there is probably scum in that wagon. Or it could mean like a cop check or something, but generally day 1 a wagon that size and potentially unmoving is kind of meh for me.

So from that point of view, I think he might be town, but I have yet to read his posts, so I don't know yet.

"PerC players are being wagoned by unwelcoming Syndicate players" -> "This specific wagon on a PerC player is probably scum-driven because of its static nature" doesn't connect. If you don't like the LoMo wagon because there's no resistance, say so. Framing it as a PerC vs Syndicate thing reads as fishing for an appeal to emotion, and doesn't really make sense if your primary concern was the size and fluidity of the wagon. It does make sense if you have TMI on LoMo so I'm very happy to vote you.

mmmm spicy

What about 5his is spicy

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:20 am
"PerC players are being wagoned by unwelcoming Syndicate players" -> "This specific wagon on a PerC player is probably scum-driven because of its static nature" doesn't connect. If you don't like the LoMo wagon because there's no resistance, say so. Framing it as a PerC vs Syndicate thing reads as fishing for an appeal to emotion, and doesn't really make sense if your primary concern was the size and fluidity of the wagon. It does make sense if you have TMI on LoMo so I'm very happy to vote you.

That was a joke. I wasn't saying you guys were being unwelcoming, far from it. I'm sorry. I don't know what to say. You seem very strong willed, and I feel like I didn't mean to hit something.

I was just trying to catch up, but it seems I started a fire in you.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:22 am

Basically she thinks my meme entry was suspicious or maybe not(?) because shes boomer and doesnt meme

Gen Y here

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:26 am I was just trying to catch up

I recommend you focus on this.

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:55 pm Everyone quick vote AllCrab before he gets into thread!
If he’s yeeted Anyone who voted them gets free town credit tomorrow!

Is this a common thing you do? Or more of an one off?

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:13 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:47 am

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:45 am not sure, how I feel about all the lomo votes...hmm...I'm not caught up. But it seems like I keep seeing PerC wagons as if we are unwelcomed on someone's home turf...adk

Hmm you are accusing the Syndicate players of being anti-immigrant?

It's more like I'm entertaining this pattern where people vote off people that they don't really get or not use to, but that does kind of simplify it though.

What do you think about LoMo? He's got a rep of being LHF at mafia cafe, do you think that is being carried over to this site? Or do you still think it is a biased syndicate reason?
Cause... i dont think the syndicate would be hosting a cross over mafia game event with PerC if they didnt welcome foreigners. Dont you think?

I wanna kill nutella

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:30 am I wanna kill nutella

why

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:21 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:17 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:13 am POE: Allcrab, bad bunny, Kito, lost monkey, nutella, Owner

Do you have gripes with nutella's town reads?

I have gripes with the fact that she hasn't really dug deep into the thread or developed strong convictions/pushes on her own. A lot of her posting feels shallow and touch-and-go on pretty surface level stuff. A lot of it is fluff. It reminds me of her posting in Modern Family hydra.

I have mostly townreads rn, LM is the closest I have to a strong scumread and still just want to see them get more involved

@nutella what do you make of people giving you shit

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:25 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:23 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:20 am

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:16 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:12 am

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:45 am not sure, how I feel about all the lomo votes...hmm...I'm not caught up. But it seems like I keep seeing PerC wagons as if we are unwelcomed on someone's home turf...adk

I really hate this AtE.

[VOTE: Owner] aubergine

It's not AtE. It's I see 4 votes on lomo that look steady or have been there for a period of time. Generally like 4 or 5 votes on someone is like there is probably scum in that wagon. Or it could mean like a cop check or something, but generally day 1 a wagon that size and potentially unmoving is kind of meh for me.

So from that point of view, I think he might be town, but I have yet to read his posts, so I don't know yet.

"PerC players are being wagoned by unwelcoming Syndicate players" -> "This specific wagon on a PerC player is probably scum-driven because of its static nature" doesn't connect. If you don't like the LoMo wagon because there's no resistance, say so. Framing it as a PerC vs Syndicate thing reads as fishing for an appeal to emotion, and doesn't really make sense if your primary concern was the size and fluidity of the wagon. It does make sense if you have TMI on LoMo so I'm very happy to vote you.

mmmm spicy

What about 5his is spicy

That owner seemed to backtrack on why she was uneasy with the wagon. I think Alison might be onto something, it seemed like a fake elaboration