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Re: Double Elimination Mafia n3

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:32 pm
by Kylemii
Timsup2nothin wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:56 pm
Kylemii wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:21 pm @Timsup2nothin who specifically do you think is going to vote you at lylo with 100% certainty? I've only really seen HK speak against you.
If I kill three more towns here today and I am at F5 LYLO who would NOT vote for me?
u guys are always so obsessed with inventing perspectives. who thinks like that? town make cases on towns all the time. acting like it's a foregone conclusion that anyone who's ever wrong about anything should go to the gallows is so alien and distant from what actually happens in real life where people make decisions based on their experiences and thoughts and emotions and such or whatever.

i think your plan will work well enough, just because i suspect marmot, and this should at minimum open the floor to put him under scrutiny, which is good cus the mafia is totally 100% just him probably

i just,... feel like this game has been a long chain of people making decisions designed to make the choice at lylo easiest but it doesn't seem like it's going to even be.... mmm... idk what. my brain is tired and sleepy, becauzse of the sweet sweet nectar called the moderna vaccine, i don't think i'm useful now

Re: Double Elimination Mafia n3

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:35 pm
by Kylemii
ok the fact that i'm in a position to actually force Tim to play out day 4 is very annoying, someone else tell me what you think I should do so I can take a nap.

Re: Double Elimination Mafia n3

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:36 pm
by hollowkatt
Kylemii wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:35 pm ok the fact that i'm in a position to actually force Tim to play out day 4 is very annoying, someone else tell me what you think I should do so I can take a nap.
I think that's hilarous

Re: Double Elimination Mafia n3

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:38 pm
by Timsup2nothin
hollowkatt wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:21 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:13 pm
G-Man wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:57 pm So the tsunami of work busyness finally landed in my lap this afternoon. I will do the last scenario and vote before the deadline. I forgot that we have a kindergarten prep Zoom for my daughter tonight though, so I can’t guarantee much more involvement today.

Tim feels either desperate to sound rational or desperate to sound rational in order to take a deep teammate even deeper. Not sure which.

Sorry I couldn’t do better.
So kill me and get it settled that I am town, then accept that the only people I am trying to send deeper are you, TSP, and Daisy...and DO NOT KILL EACH OTHER.
I hate this. You're betting the game that all three of g-man, tsp, and daisy are town vs myself, kyle, mog, marmot yeah?
If there's even one wolf in the set you're advocating never questions each other you're handing the wolf the win.

You're not casing anyone, you're not laying out "here's how to do about doing things" which are all things town tim likes to do in this situation. You're beating a dead horse so hard it's going to turn into boots and walk away
I laid out EXACTLY how I got here. Made was the only wolf in the lower bracket N1, and yes I bet the game on that.

G-Man is town. He didn't come to the lower bracket to make sure Alison got resolved if he was a wolf, because a wolf wouldn't care who won the battle between me and Alison. A wolf comes down there and makes pushes.

That's what I've got and that's what I stick to. That's my best chance at winning here.

Re: Double Elimination Mafia n3

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:41 pm
by Kylemii
[VOTE: Kyle] aubergine
[VOTE: HK] aubergine
[VOTE: Gman] aubergine

give me a reason why to swap gman out for tim here, gman looks worse than tim and i think is more likely to be mafia. as far as i can tell the only reason to suspect tim is if i think tim is trying to do some reverse psychology thing, or if he's mafia and he's trying to set up his partner for victory by dying but planting out a bunch of wifom seeds or something

pleas ekeepy in mind that i have only like 8 posts left lol

Re: Double Elimination Mafia n3

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:46 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
god alison's gonna be so mad at me

Re: Double Elimination Mafia n3

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:46 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
I can hear her in spec chat now

Re: Double Elimination Mafia n3

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:47 pm
by Kylemii
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:46 pm god alison's gonna be so mad at me
why

Re: Double Elimination Mafia n3

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:49 pm
by Timsup2nothin
Kylemii wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:47 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:46 pm god alison's gonna be so mad at me
why
If I do not die here you better show up in DVC wearing asbestos

Re: Double Elimination Mafia n3

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:49 pm
by hollowkatt
Alison is gonna be mad at everyone nbd

Re: Double Elimination Mafia n3

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:50 pm
by Kylemii
what is a dvc

Re: Double Elimination Mafia n3

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:51 pm
by Timsup2nothin
Kylemii wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:50 pmwhat is a dvc
dead villagers chat

Re: Double Elimination Mafia n3

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:53 pm
by hollowkatt
Kylemii wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:50 pmwhat is a dvc
disney vacation club, it's a timeshare kind of thing.

Re: Double Elimination Mafia n3

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:55 pm
by Kylemii
i'm not afraid of alison, if she wanted to have a say in what happened in the game she shouldn't have gotten herself killed

Re: Double Elimination Mafia n3

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:02 pm
by DaisyCloud
Kylemii wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:55 pm i'm not afraid of alison, if she wanted to have a say in what happened in the game she shouldn't have gotten herself killed
this. she should not be salty or mad at anyone.

Re: Double Elimination Mafia n3

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:04 pm
by Kylemii
unvote HK
[VOTE: Tim] aubergine idk let's make it weird for a sec

Re: Double Elimination Mafia n3

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:05 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Kyle just broke it smh

Re: Double Elimination Mafia n3

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:06 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
In this scenario I pull my vote from GMan ftr

Re: Double Elimination Mafia n3

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:06 pm
by G-Man
Setting votes down for Kyle and Tim. Their scenario is most plausible. Tony & Tim basically boils down to “holy hell, do you think we can manage to stretch this thing out for yet another day?”

I’ll catch up from where I left off with my last post.

[VOTE: Kyle
Tim]
aubergine

Re: Double Elimination Mafia n3

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:06 pm
by Kylemii
wait nevermind this is dumb, the mafia wouldn't worry about breaking the tie cus they control ties

Re: Double Elimination Mafia n3

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:07 pm
by G-Man
Sheesh! How did we reach the point where HK and I are ties for third but Tony has zero votes? Should be an interesting read.

Re: Double Elimination Mafia n3

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:08 pm
by Kylemii
unvote gman, [VOTE: HK] aubergine

Re: Double Elimination Mafia n3

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:15 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
New game called follow Tim’s plan and blame him when we lose to Daisy/Marmot

Re: Double Elimination Mafia n3

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:21 pm
by Timsup2nothin
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:15 pm New game called follow Tim’s plan and blame him when we lose to Daisy/Marmot
This is the way.

Re: Double Elimination Mafia n3

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:21 pm
by DaisyCloud
idk where to put my last vote.

Re: Double Elimination Mafia n3

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:27 pm
by Kylemii
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:15 pm New game called follow Tim’s plan and blame him when we lose to Daisy/Marmot
i already called this pairing so if this happens, that's basically better than winning, in terms of the serotonin gained for me personally, which is, at the end of the day, what this is all about really..

2 posts left i need to find a really good meme for this

Re: Double Elimination Mafia n3

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:45 pm
by Kylemii
this is my legacy..... please keep it in mind for after i've been eliminated.
Spoiler: show
spoilered cus it's a little longer than i thought it would be, haha oops. good luck have fun you crazy kids <333

Re: Double Elimination Mafia n3

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:50 pm
by Syn
not even playing this game and I'm still being trolled by kyle

Re: Double Elimination Mafia n3

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:53 pm
by G-Man
Kylemii wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:45 pm this is my legacy..... please keep it in mind for after i've been eliminated.
Spoiler: show
spoilered cus it's a little longer than i thought it would be, haha oops. good luck have fun you crazy kids <333
Sweet of you to imitate my signature, but flattery will get you nowhere. :p

The most believable scenario involving Tony and another LB partner is where he's teamed with Tim, but that's basically bad luck that was very avoidable in D1. In a world where Marmot and Moghedien don't exist, Tony isn't a baddie.

I struggle to see where HK is a baddie because if his other partner is in the LB, it makes no sense to give up a sure-fire F5 appearance just to help a struggling teammate or to screw with peoples' minds. If either of those are the truth, I'd love to hear more about it post-game.

That removes Tony and HK from my POE. But we're chopping three, so I guess Daisy it is. This has been a weird day.

[VOTE: Daisy] aubergine

Re: Double Elimination Mafia n3

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:54 pm
by DaisyCloud
Kylemii wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:45 pm this is my legacy..... please keep it in mind for after i've been eliminated.
Spoiler: show
spoilered cus it's a little longer than i thought it would be, haha oops. good luck have fun you crazy kids <333




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not nice kyle

Re: Double Elimination Mafia n3

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:57 pm
by Kylemii
get rekt nerds

Re: Double Elimination Mafia n3

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:57 pm
by DaisyCloud
G-Man wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:53 pm
Kylemii wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:45 pm this is my legacy..... please keep it in mind for after i've been eliminated.
Spoiler: show
spoilered cus it's a little longer than i thought it would be, haha oops. good luck have fun you crazy kids <333
Sweet of you to imitate my signature, but flattery will get you nowhere. :p

The most believable scenario involving Tony and another LB partner is where he's teamed with Tim, but that's basically bad luck that was very avoidable in D1. In a world where Marmot and Moghedien don't exist, Tony isn't a baddie.

I struggle to see where HK is a baddie because if his other partner is in the LB, it makes no sense to give up a sure-fire F5 appearance just to help a struggling teammate or to screw with peoples' minds. If either of those are the truth, I'd love to hear more about it post-game.

That removes Tony and HK from my POE. But we're chopping three, so I guess Daisy it is. This has been a weird day.

[VOTE: Daisy] aubergine
this messed up

Re: Double Elimination Mafia n3

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:58 pm
by G-Man
Someone is totally going to cause a tie at the last second for the third chop.




Who will it be?

Re: Double Elimination Mafia n3

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:58 pm
by DaisyCloud
G-Man wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:58 pm Someone is totally going to cause a tie at the last second for the third chop.




Who will it be?
u

Re: Double Elimination Mafia n3

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:59 pm
by DaisyCloud
I'm making popcorn

Re: Double Elimination Mafia n3

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:23 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
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@Kylemii dies and flips town
@hollowkatt dies and flips town
@Timsup2nothin dies and flips town

It is now f5! You have until May 1st, 7pm EDT to kill someone. Mafia now have a NK. There is a hammer at 3 votes. You have one vote apiece. Night phases will be ~24 hours and closed for posting.

Everyone alive may post:

@DaisyCloud
@G-Man
@Marmot
@Moghedien
@TonyStarkPrime

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Re: Double Elimination Mafia n3

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:24 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
(Polls and post caps with added in a bit)

Re: Double Elimination Mafia d4

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:27 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
ok tim we blame this one on you

Re: Double Elimination Mafia d4

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:36 pm
by G-Man




Here we go again...
Spoiler: show
DAY 1 VOTES:

ALISON (11): Alison, Gavial, hollowkat, Kyle, Long Con, MacDougall, Made, Marmot, Moghedien, Poison, Tim

MACDOUGALL (10): Alison, G-Man, Gavial, Kyle, Lon Con, Made, Marmot, Moghedien, Poison, Tim

TIM (7): Alison, Gavial, hollowkat, Kyle, Long Con, Made, Moghedien

DAISY (6): Alison, hollowkat, Kyle, Long Con, Moghedien, Tony

GAVIAL (6): Daisy, hollowkat, Kyle, Long Con, MacDougall, Moghedien

MADE (6): G-Man, Gavial, Long Con, MacDougall, Marmot, Moghedien

POISON (6): G-Man, Gavial, hollowkat, Kyle, MacDougall, Tony

TONY (6): hollowkat, Kyle, Long Con, Made, Marmot, Mohegdien

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KYLE (5): G-Man, Gavial, MacDougall, Marmot, Tony

MARMOT (5): hollowkat, Kyle, MacDougall, Made, Marmot

FALCON (4): G-Man, Long Con, MacDougall, Tony

G-MAN (4): G-Man, Gavial, Mohegdien, Tony

WILGY (4): Gavial, hollowkat, Marmot, Tony

MOHEGDIEN (3): Daisy, G-Man, Long Con

HOLLOWKAT (2): Daisy, G-Man

LONG CON (2): MacDougall, Tony




*********************************************************************************************



NIGHT 1 VOTES:

MACDOUGALL (5): Daisy, Gavial, Made, Poison, Tim

GAVIAL (4): MacDougall, Poison, Tim, Tony

MADE (4): Daisy, MacDougall, Poison, Tim

POISON* (3): Gavial, MacDougall, Tony

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ALISON (3): Daisy, Gavial, Tim

TIM (3): Alison, Gavial, MacDougall

TONY (2): Daisy, Poison

DAISY (0)




*********************************************************************************************


DAY 2 VOTES:

G-MAN (5): Falcon, G-Man, Kyle, Marmot, Wilgy

FALCON (4): G-Man, hollowkat, Kyle, Wilgy

WILGY (4): G-Man, hollowkat, Kyle, Marmot

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KYLE (2): Falcon, Wilgy

MOGHEDIEN (1): Falcon

HOLLOWKAT (0)

MARMOT (0)




*********************************************************************************************


NIGHT 2 VOTES:

ALISON (5): Daisy, Falcon, G-Man, Tim, Tony

FALCON (5): Daisy, G-Man, Tim, Tony, Wilgy

WILGY (3): Falcon, Tim, Tony

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TONY (2): G-Man, Wilgy

DAISY (1): Falcon

TIM (1): Wilgy

G-MAN (0)




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DAY 3 VOTES:

KYLE (3): hollowkat, Kyle, Moghedien

HOLLOWKAT (2): hollowkat, Moghedien

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MARMOT (1): Kyle

MOGHEDIEN (0)

Re: Double Elimination Mafia d4

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:46 pm
by Moghedien
@TonyStarkPrime and everyone else, did you all see the way Marmot tried to tie the votes yesterday? I couldn’t believe none of you talked about that last night.

The only person whose innocence I’m almost certain of is Daisy. At least one of either G-Man or TSP is deepwolfing, and then I think it’s clear from what Marmot tried to do yesterday that they are likely to be the last wolf.

Re: Double Elimination Mafia d4

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:49 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
why would a wolf want to tie the votes there we literally know we sent two town

Re: Double Elimination Mafia d4

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:50 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
god im gonna make some terrible choices here

Re: Double Elimination Mafia d4

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:50 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Mog why do you think Daisy is town

Re: Double Elimination Mafia d4

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:51 pm
by Moghedien
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:49 pm why would a wolf want to tie the votes there we literally know we sent two town
I don’t know exactly what their plan would be in that scenario, but since the wolves have control over ties, I think we can agree that wolves have more incentive to try and tie the votes than townies do. Why would a townie want to tie the votes there?

Re: Double Elimination Mafia d4

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:54 pm
by Moghedien
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:50 pm Mog why do you think Daisy is town
Didn’t she help bury Made? I would need to look back at night one, which I intend to do tonight, but I believe that’s what happened. Also, Daisy is one of the few people who hasn’t tried to buddy me this game. The fact that she’s the only person who’s scum read me in any capacity just reeks of other players having TMI.

Re: Double Elimination Mafia d4

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:54 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
fun

Re: Double Elimination Mafia d4

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:54 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
tbh I haven't had the opportunity to scumread you but you're off to a strong start

Re: Double Elimination Mafia d4

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:00 pm
by Moghedien
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:54 pm tbh I haven't had the opportunity to scumread you but you're off to a strong start
Flattery will get you nowhere. :mafia:

It’s interesting that you asked my reason for town reading Daisy, and then basically ended the conversation after I responded. Almost like you just wanted to feel me out for your own purposes, rather than actually trying to gamesolve with me. It’s a precarious position for you, because you know that if you agree Daisy is likeliest to be town, that narrows the POE down to you, G-Man and Marmot. From my perspective, anyway.

So with that said, do you agree with my read on Daisy? What do you think about Daisy?

Re: Double Elimination Mafia d4

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:04 pm
by G-Man
Moghedien wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:46 pm @TonyStarkPrime and everyone else, did you all see the way Marmot tried to tie the votes yesterday? I couldn’t believe none of you talked about that last night.

The only person whose innocence I’m almost certain of is Daisy. At least one of either G-Man or TSP is deepwolfing, and then I think it’s clear from what Marmot tried to do yesterday that they are likely to be the last wolf.
Sure, I could be deepwolfing with all my freaky vote analysis. I did a lot of scenario building during Corrupt!?, but that was only at the end to help push us over the finish line. There's no point in working that hard for most of the game in a game where baddies could just as well kick back and let the speed of the game amplify the number of bad civvie decisions. That's clearly what they have done and I can't begrudge them that. It's a simple plan that works for fast games like this.

If Daisy is a baddie, fair enough, she can win, but she never gets away with the scatterbrained stuff with me again, even if it is her natural state of play.

I'm relieved that HK and Tim were both civvie, because that at least tells me that I can still mind-meld with right thinking in my advanced age.

My apologies to Kyle. I guess there's only room for one indifferent baddie like you and Made in this game.

So now we're down to the following possibilities:

1) Made-Daisy-Marmot
2) Made-Daisy-Moghedien
3) Made-Daisy-Tony
4) Made-Marmot-Moghedien
5) Made-Marmot-Tony
6) Made-Moghedien-Tony

There's a simple way to solve this- go back and read Day 1 knowing that everyone else is a civvie and see which of these combinations makes the most sense.

Re: Double Elimination Mafia d4

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:22 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Moghedien wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:00 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:54 pm tbh I haven't had the opportunity to scumread you but you're off to a strong start
Flattery will get you nowhere. :mafia:

It’s interesting that you asked my reason for town reading Daisy, and then basically ended the conversation after I responded. Almost like you just wanted to feel me out for your own purposes, rather than actually trying to gamesolve with me. It’s a precarious position for you, because you know that if you agree Daisy is likeliest to be town, that narrows the POE down to you, G-Man and Marmot. From my perspective, anyway.

So with that said, do you agree with my read on Daisy? What do you think about Daisy?
Can’t do anything about Daisy