Tree Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Tangrowth]

On a more serious note I'll read over MPand Epi.

Any thoughts on my Epi ISO so far?

[Tangrowth]

I'm convinced no one here knows what "throwing shade" is.

Enlighten me then.

[Tangrowth]

this is some softcock shit. No movement in hours. yeahh this is how we'll turn it around.

Ok I'm trying on the pants. ISOs.

Lol yeah right.

Priorities.

shaddup.

I look forward to your thoughts.

[Epignosis]

My hands are shaking. Like leaves.

[Tangrowth]

My hands are shaking. Like leaves.

Is this just a tree pun or are you really shaking?

[Tangrowth]

Ugh, where is everyone? We only have 3 hours.

[motel room]

there's a lot of little separate shit going on that I want to get my head around but I'm somewhere like this right now:

MacDougall
MovingPictures07
Epignosis
sig
a2thezebra
TheFloyd73
JaggedJimmyJay
Diiny

If this is the case, then why isn't motel room voting for Diiny right now, and why for his 3rd top read?

that was then, this is now. And I see you've put some work into casing Epi too so are you even suss of me for where my vote is right now?

[Epignosis]

My hands are shaking. Like leaves.

Is this just a tree pun or are you really shaking?

Yah- first weight-lifting cardio of our new program. I used a 15 pound weight even though the man said not to use anything above a 12. Plus I'm starving.

[Tangrowth]

there's a lot of little separate shit going on that I want to get my head around but I'm somewhere like this right now:

MacDougall
MovingPictures07
Epignosis
sig
a2thezebra
TheFloyd73
JaggedJimmyJay
Diiny

If this is the case, then why isn't motel room voting for Diiny right now, and why for his 3rd top read?

that was then, this is now. And I see you've put some work into casing Epi too so are you even suss of me for where my vote is right now?

I'm ISOing Epi. What does that have to do with my feelings for you?

Yes, I'm suspicious of it.

Can you provide a new reads list? Or, if not, would you mind telling me what has changed between then and now which has caused your flip in opinion on Diiny versus Epi?

Who would you ideally like to lynch today and why?

[Tangrowth]

My hands are shaking. Like leaves.

Is this just a tree pun or are you really shaking?

Yah- first weight-lifting cardio of our new program. I used a 15 pound weight even though the man said not to use anything above a 12. Plus I'm starving.

Get some food and then come back in here and help me hunt for mafia.

[Tangrowth]

Going to continue my Epi ISO now.

[Epignosis]

Coupla beers will do for now.

Going to continue my Epi ISO now.

If you're good, you don't have to waste your time.

[Tangrowth]

Coupla beers will do for now.

Going to continue my Epi ISO now.

If you're good, you don't have to waste your time.

Think I'll grab a beer myself.

I am good, and so I ask you this: Who would you like to lynch and why?

[Epignosis]

I recall MacDougall going after motel room, then changing his opinion as soon as 3J said motel room looked good. From there, MacDougall turned on me, and now has a vote on Diiny.

That's why I suspect MacDougall (not just the Diiny-saving antics).

I realized no one asked, but there you are.

[Epignosis]

Well, MP asked just now.

[Tangrowth]

I recall MacDougall going after motel room, then changing his opinion as soon as 3J said motel room looked good. From there, MacDougall turned on me, and now has a vote on Diiny.

That's why I suspect MacDougall (not just the Diiny-saving antics).

I realized no one asked, but there you are.

Do you suspect Mac more than anyone else?

[Tangrowth]

Should I do a Mac ISO? man, these things take too long. I really want to take a look at him though because I've been consistently reading him supatown, and it's possible he's tricking me (of course, that's possible with anyone).

[Tangrowth]

Epi, what do you think of FZ./sig? He's still on my radar.

[Tangrowth]

There has not been enough activity for this to be quasi-LYLO! ahhhhhhhhhh where is everyone

[Epignosis]

Epi, what do you think of FZ./sig? He's still on my radar.

FZ. sounded good to me- natural and reserved. sig sounds eager to please, unwilling to provide his own stance on me and willing to bend to outside opinion. Keep in mind that FZ. voted for me Day 1. sig acts like he needs permission to come after me, even though he had me at the bottom of his list when he replaced back in.

[Tangrowth]

Epi, what do you think of FZ./sig? He's still on my radar.

FZ. sounded good to me- natural and reserved. sig sounds eager to please, unwilling to provide his own stance on me and willing to bend to outside opinion. Keep in mind that FZ. voted for me Day 1. sig acts like he needs permission to come after me, even though he had me at the bottom of his list when he replaced back in.

So you suspect sig, but didn't suspect FZ.?

What did you think of JJJ's FZ. ISO, or any of the questions I raised about her?

Can you point to a post maybe where you thought FZ. seemed most civilian? I think that'd be important because most of her posts got a bad look from me.

I don't disagree with your interpretation of sig's behavior; he has been rather crowd-pleasing.

[Epignosis]

Should I do a Mac ISO? man, these things take too long. I really want to take a look at him though because I've been consistently reading him supatown, and it's possible he's tricking me (of course, that's possible with anyone).

I don't care if you do one or not. I don't think those things are useful until you've caught Mafia, but that's just me.

[Tangrowth]

Epi, I've been taking a look at your Day 3 content so far, and I notice you seem hyper-focused on JJJ, but not so much on Mac, yet you gave indications near EoD Day 2 that you heavily suspected Mac (and dropped your vote on him). Did Mac's Day 3 behavior seem better to you, or did JJJ just seem worse overall?

[Tangrowth]

Should I do a Mac ISO? man, these things take too long. I really want to take a look at him though because I've been consistently reading him supatown, and it's possible he's tricking me (of course, that's possible with anyone).

I don't care if you do one or not. I don't think those things are useful until you've caught Mafia, but that's just me.

Yeah, it is pretty tough to come to any firm conclusions... but we have to catch someone somehow.

[Tangrowth]

In fact, I don't see a single time you said the word "Mac" or addressed Mac at all Day 3... though I will admit that your (and others', you weren't the only one) Day 3 content was less than previous Days'.

[Epignosis]

Epi, what do you think of FZ./sig? He's still on my radar.

FZ. sounded good to me- natural and reserved. sig sounds eager to please, unwilling to provide his own stance on me and willing to bend to outside opinion. Keep in mind that FZ. voted for me Day 1. sig acts like he needs permission to come after me, even though he had me at the bottom of his list when he replaced back in.

So you suspect sig, but didn't suspect FZ.?

What did you think of JJJ's FZ. ISO, or any of the questions I raised about her?

Can you point to a post maybe where you thought FZ. seemed most civilian? I think that'd be important because most of her posts got a bad look from me.

I don't disagree with your interpretation of sig's behavior; he has been rather crowd-pleasing.

I didn't say I suspected sig. I suspect all y'all mothafuckas, so I don't get what's up the ponder smiley.

As I said, I don't think those things are useful until you caught Mafia. I haven't caught Mafia.

Wilgy, I think that if you're lying and you're not bad, it is seriously fucked up to lynch someone like you're doing now.

That don't sound like bad FZ. to me. I'm not the best judge, but that don't sound like bad FZ. to me.

[Tangrowth]

Well, the ponder smiley was because generally players seem to have suspected FZ., but found sig's behavior more town-like, whereas you indicated the opposite.

That's a good post. I think I could still see mafia FZ. writing that, but that does sound genuine.

[Epignosis]

I am good, and so I ask you this: Who would you like to lynch and why?

And I'd like to point out that MP is trying to draw my vote away from Diiny again.

I don't understand, MP, why you are defending Diiny. Would you kindly explain why?

[Tangrowth]

I am good, and so I ask you this: Who would you like to lynch and why?

And I'd like to point out that MP is trying to draw my vote away from Diiny again.

I don't understand, MP, why you are defending Diiny. Would you kindly explain why?

I'm defending Diiny because in Diiny's behavior I've consistently seen someone who wants to find mafia. I know Diiny can act aggressive if he wants to (see: Talking Heads), but I've played and witnessed at least a handful of games with Diiny now, mostly on RM. When he's faking it, I've seen his contributions drop off over time, and he tends to fade in the background as it becomes harder for him to fabricate the hunt. The only game where I thought I caught mafia Diiny early on because his content seemed fake, I ended up being correct, although I unfortunately didn't pursue my gut evaluation of it.

I've not seen anything fabricated at all here. I see someone genuinely interested in mafia hunting and in pursuing / questioning players. I don't think he handled the Wilgy gambit perfectly, because when you see his behavior he shifts from cautiously approaching interactions with Wilgy to aggressively going after him, then kinda flip/flops between the two a bit, but I can interpret a scenario in which Diiny was trying to figure out Wilgy's intentions early on, then decided that he seemed insincere.

Why do you think I shouldn't be defending him?

[Tangrowth]

EBWOP: RYM, not RM*

[Tangrowth]

I am good, and so I ask you this: Who would you like to lynch and why?

And I'd like to point out that MP is trying to draw my vote away from Diiny again.

I don't understand, MP, why you are defending Diiny. Would you kindly explain why?

Also, I asked that to see if you still wanted to lynch Diiny or if you were thinking someone else. I wasn't actively trying to draw your vote away, only get an explanation, because I asked why you suspected Diiny earlier in the phase and haven't really gotten an answer.

[Tangrowth]

Well, I'm done looking through Epi. Not going to make an official Day 3 and Day 4 ISO post, in the interest of time. Hoping he can answer why he went for JJJ over Mac on Day 3 soon. Going to look into Mac now.

[Tangrowth]

Just going to pick out particular posts of note for Mac in the interest of time.

[motel room]

there's a lot of little separate shit going on that I want to get my head around but I'm somewhere like this right now:

MacDougall
MovingPictures07
Epignosis
sig
a2thezebra
TheFloyd73
JaggedJimmyJay
Diiny

If this is the case, then why isn't motel room voting for Diiny right now, and why for his 3rd top read?

that was then, this is now. And I see you've put some work into casing Epi too so are you even suss of me for where my vote is right now?

I'm ISOing Epi. What does that have to do with my feelings for you?

Yes, I'm suspicious of it.

Can you provide a new reads list? Or, if not, would you mind telling me what has changed between then and now which has caused your flip in opinion on Diiny versus Epi?

Who would you ideally like to lynch today and why?

Because of his flip. i'm worried that if Diiny ends up being town the fake votes today would surely be directed at him and an out of nowhere reversal in that direction with not much to back it up is that, spot on.

[Tangrowth]

What do you mean by fake votes? You lost me there.

[Epignosis]

I am good, and so I ask you this: Who would you like to lynch and why?

And I'd like to point out that MP is trying to draw my vote away from Diiny again.

I don't understand, MP, why you are defending Diiny. Would you kindly explain why?

I'm defending Diiny because in Diiny's behavior I've consistently seen someone who wants to find mafia. I know Diiny can act aggressive if he wants to (see: Talking Heads), but I've played and witnessed at least a handful of games with Diiny now, mostly on RM. When he's faking it, I've seen his contributions drop off over time, and he tends to fade in the background as it becomes harder for him to fabricate the hunt. The only game where I thought I caught mafia Diiny early on because his content seemed fake, I ended up being correct, although I unfortunately didn't pursue my gut evaluation of it.

I've not seen anything fabricated at all here. I see someone genuinely interested in mafia hunting and in pursuing / questioning players. I don't think he handled the Wilgy gambit perfectly, because when you see his behavior he shifts from cautiously approaching interactions with Wilgy to aggressively going after him, then kinda flip/flops between the two a bit, but I can interpret a scenario in which Diiny was trying to figure out Wilgy's intentions early on, then decided that he seemed insincere.

Why do you think I shouldn't be defending him?

I don't think you should be defending anybody if you're good. You essentially saved Diiny Day 1. That's not "over time." That's Day 1.

[motel room]

I dunno, I think Mac's town. That bit before where he was concerned about my "shenanigans" voting off-bandwagon when he thought there was less than an hour left doesn't seem like something a scum would be concerned about. and I think it seemed legit, not staged.

[Tangrowth]

I am good, and so I ask you this: Who would you like to lynch and why?

And I'd like to point out that MP is trying to draw my vote away from Diiny again.

I don't understand, MP, why you are defending Diiny. Would you kindly explain why?

I'm defending Diiny because in Diiny's behavior I've consistently seen someone who wants to find mafia. I know Diiny can act aggressive if he wants to (see: Talking Heads), but I've played and witnessed at least a handful of games with Diiny now, mostly on RM. When he's faking it, I've seen his contributions drop off over time, and he tends to fade in the background as it becomes harder for him to fabricate the hunt. The only game where I thought I caught mafia Diiny early on because his content seemed fake, I ended up being correct, although I unfortunately didn't pursue my gut evaluation of it.

I've not seen anything fabricated at all here. I see someone genuinely interested in mafia hunting and in pursuing / questioning players. I don't think he handled the Wilgy gambit perfectly, because when you see his behavior he shifts from cautiously approaching interactions with Wilgy to aggressively going after him, then kinda flip/flops between the two a bit, but I can interpret a scenario in which Diiny was trying to figure out Wilgy's intentions early on, then decided that he seemed insincere.

Why do you think I shouldn't be defending him?

I don't think you should be defending anybody if you're good. You essentially saved Diiny Day 1. That's not "over time." That's Day 1.

I thought Enrique looked worse than Diiny Day 1, so yeah, that's how I voted. I have to make a judgment as to whether players are mafia or not... that's the game. If I think someone is town, you better bet I'm going to defend them. There is always a disclaimer that I'm wrong, and I'm always willing to reconsider my evaluations.

[motel room]

What do you mean by fake votes? You lost me there.

scum votes.

[Tangrowth]

I dunno, I think Mac's town. That bit before where he was concerned about my "shenanigans" voting off-bandwagon when he thought there was less than an hour left doesn't seem like something a scum would be concerned about. and I think it seemed legit, not staged.

This is an astute point. I'd be inclined to agree with respect to that post / mindset of Mac's.

[Tangrowth]

What do you mean by fake votes? You lost me there.

scum votes.

So you're saying that if Diiny is town, mafia would be pushing his lynch over anyone else's?

[Tangrowth]

I'm seeing a town Mac again in Day 1 upon re-examination. If he's mafia, then damn.

[Epignosis]

I am good, and so I ask you this: Who would you like to lynch and why?

And I'd like to point out that MP is trying to draw my vote away from Diiny again.

I don't understand, MP, why you are defending Diiny. Would you kindly explain why?

I'm defending Diiny because in Diiny's behavior I've consistently seen someone who wants to find mafia. I know Diiny can act aggressive if he wants to (see: Talking Heads), but I've played and witnessed at least a handful of games with Diiny now, mostly on RM. When he's faking it, I've seen his contributions drop off over time, and he tends to fade in the background as it becomes harder for him to fabricate the hunt. The only game where I thought I caught mafia Diiny early on because his content seemed fake, I ended up being correct, although I unfortunately didn't pursue my gut evaluation of it.

I've not seen anything fabricated at all here. I see someone genuinely interested in mafia hunting and in pursuing / questioning players. I don't think he handled the Wilgy gambit perfectly, because when you see his behavior he shifts from cautiously approaching interactions with Wilgy to aggressively going after him, then kinda flip/flops between the two a bit, but I can interpret a scenario in which Diiny was trying to figure out Wilgy's intentions early on, then decided that he seemed insincere.

Why do you think I shouldn't be defending him?

I don't think you should be defending anybody if you're good. You essentially saved Diiny Day 1. That's not "over time." That's Day 1.

I thought Enrique looked worse than Diiny Day 1, so yeah, that's how I voted. I have to make a judgment as to whether players are mafia or not... that's the game. If I think someone is town, you better bet I'm going to defend them. There is always a disclaimer that I'm wrong, and I'm always willing to reconsider my evaluations.

Mafia have to try to look good. Yet people vote based on who "looked worse." How does that work out? I'll never understand this mindset.

[Tangrowth]

I thought Enrique looked worse than Diiny Day 1, so yeah, that's how I voted. I have to make a judgment as to whether players are mafia or not... that's the game. If I think someone is town, you better bet I'm going to defend them. There is always a disclaimer that I'm wrong, and I'm always willing to reconsider my evaluations.

Mafia have to try to look good. Yet people vote based on who "looked worse." How does that work out? I'll never understand this mindset.

You lost me. What do you mean?

[Epignosis]

I thought Enrique looked worse than Diiny Day 1, so yeah, that's how I voted. I have to make a judgment as to whether players are mafia or not... that's the game. If I think someone is town, you better bet I'm going to defend them. There is always a disclaimer that I'm wrong, and I'm always willing to reconsider my evaluations.

Mafia have to try to look good. Yet people vote based on who "looked worse." How does that work out? I'll never understand this mindset.

You lost me. What do you mean?

I mean just that. "I voted for the guy who looked the worst."

But civilians don't have to worry about how they LOOK- Mafia do. I'm more inclined to vote those who are the ones who look better than they should if they are civilian.

If you think Diiny is good, why aren't you helping him lynch Floyd?

[Tangrowth]

I thought Enrique looked worse than Diiny Day 1, so yeah, that's how I voted. I have to make a judgment as to whether players are mafia or not... that's the game. If I think someone is town, you better bet I'm going to defend them. There is always a disclaimer that I'm wrong, and I'm always willing to reconsider my evaluations.

Mafia have to try to look good. Yet people vote based on who "looked worse." How does that work out? I'll never understand this mindset.

You lost me. What do you mean?

I mean just that. "I voted for the guy who looked the worst."

But civilians don't have to worry about how they LOOK- Mafia do. I'm more inclined to vote those who are the ones who look better than they should if they are civilian.

If you think Diiny is good, why aren't you helping him lynch Floyd?

That's backwards logic though. Civilians don't have to worry about how they look, yeah, so they will look genuine. I, like everyone else, have to assess who I think is being genuine and who isn't. Hence, I thought Enrique seemed less genuine (aka worse) than Diiny. I'm not sure I see what you're getting at. Isn't that part of the game?

Just because I'm town reading Diiny doesn't mean I think he has to be right about his Floyd suspicion.

[Tangrowth]

MacDougall - ISO

Day 1: MacDougall Takes Punches

versus Diiny:

Spoiler: show

(had to snip this because I couldn't embed more than 7 quotes)

You're telling me you posted that to get a conversation going to catch scum off guard, but a few posts ago agreed with me that starting such a conversation would be silly. What's going on?

I'm interested because of your responses to my prods. I'm trying to find out whether you're doing some prodding of your own as a townie or making yourself look good as scum. Help me out.

You are really trying to pull the old double cross here aren't you. Trying to make Zebra out to be confused and bad after you throw shade on Floyd without voting. Kind of like putting your right indicator on during a car chase but turning left. You're bad to the bone Dinman. Bad to the bone.

Spoiler: show

Wilgtown. Diiny was already attracting negative attention. You could have just added to the case on him. What advantage to town if you were the cop would there be for you to just be out with it like this even if you really are a cop with a red check? Diiny was probably getting lynched regardless, you've just outed yourself for no reason.

Astute question for Wilgy's gambit.

Spoiler: show

We interrupt this Mafia programme to bring you a special bulletin.

The MacDougall mega list of confirmed scum and confirmed townies

Confirmed townies;

1. Enrique
2. Zebra

Confirmed scum;

1. Diiny
2. FZ

Confirmed lame;

1. JaggedJimmyJay

Resume regular transmission.

After some "you bad" posts by Mac re: Diiny and the "loooooooool" with FZ., we get this from Mac. Punches taken against FZ.

Then versus JJJ:

Spoiler: show

I would encourage those who've already voted for Diiny to at least pause for a moment and carefully consider their vote and their mindset, because this is one of those wagons that could easily drift into a lynch while everyone complacently just waits. That's rarely ideal -- critically assess the situation and ensure you're really giving him a fair opportunity.

I wish I had more time to personally address this in a thorough way instead of just rendering advice, but yanno. I gotta get to sleep now, but I'll be back tomorrow with plenty of time to spare. I hope it continues to be an active discussion.

Counterpoint, Diiny is scum and you are being contrarian for reasons.

versus Epi:

Spoiler: show

"curious thing to concentrate"

AHEM. Alright guys, lemme clarify what I meant to say, for Epi's sake.

*clears throat*

Epi is advocating a non-town-benefiting lynch based on a more-likely-than-not-personal issue with Floyd? Is that better?

Nope, never mind, I can't do this. I can't bullshit so blatantly as this. It's a policy lynch, and it's for personal reasons. There's no way to sugarcoat it. If a politician is advocating for harsher policies against abortion, that might be because they have a personal issue with it that relates to their morals. If a player personally feels that another player has chronic non-participation problems, they might advocate a policy lynch against that player. Simple.

In games past we have had no qualms lynching him (when scum and not scum) due to his in game contributions however lax they are.

Ergo I feel that Epi's rationalisation that we must lynch him day 1 because of a pereceived lack of input and/or the inferred inability for civs to read into his intentions is actually an incorrect rationalisation and one that coming from who it's coming from is one that I can easily see being scum attempting to not try very hard at all on day 1 because Epignosis has been privy to almost all examples to the contrary of the point he is trying to demonstrate.

In and of itself is low content production a reason to lynch a player on day 1 as a policy? If yes, is Epignosis the type to attempt this on day 1, a particularly active healthy day 1. If no, is Epignosis the type to push for a fallacious policy lynch?

If low content production is a good policy lynch reason, then let's argue whether Floyd genuinely is a low content producer? I would say no for the purposes of analysing him. While sheer volume is down on most other players, he has a tendency for posting things that are quite easy to read into. So again, for Epignosis to postulate that he is the type of low poster that must be lynched day 1 lest he become a problem, which is the inference of a policy lynch, irks me greatly.

Ergo Epignosis is now a bad guy to me. Take that Epignosis. Take that right in the batty.

versus motel room:

Spoiler: show

u first tiger

right, i'm suss of you because of your little hop away from your Diiny vote to voting Wilgy after his cop claim, to getting back on Diiny. Reads like you didn't know where to sit and now have a theory involving them both being scum.

I want to hear YOUR opinion on Diiny.

For the record, I've always been perfectly okay with a Diiny lynch. Wilgy did look more dangerous for a bit, but really, as long as we get a bad guy today there's no rush. Lynching DrWilgy is taking too big a risk atm when we know so little about what he's trying to do.

I think Diiny is scum. I think DrWilgy most likely is but until Diiny is gone, we don't want to lynch him.

edgy as it may be I'm not as certain Diiny is scum

Why are you suspicious of me like you said?

U r bad 2 the bown.

Spoiler: show

Friends can you please look at Motel Room's ISO and tell me it isn't the pingiest, short posty, pointless question psuedo effort ISO of all tahhhhm?

versus DFaraday:

Spoiler: show

The conversation really hit the ground running in this game. And here I thought tree Mafia would be more easygoing.

DFaraday's contribution to Tree Mafia so far.

Yikes

I'd argue that Mac took the most controversial opinions consistently of any player on Day 1, and he seemed constantly willing to call players out for mafia behavior, and willing to continually reassess. I see the town spark.

[Epignosis]

I thought Enrique looked worse than Diiny Day 1, so yeah, that's how I voted. I have to make a judgment as to whether players are mafia or not... that's the game. If I think someone is town, you better bet I'm going to defend them. There is always a disclaimer that I'm wrong, and I'm always willing to reconsider my evaluations.

Mafia have to try to look good. Yet people vote based on who "looked worse." How does that work out? I'll never understand this mindset.

You lost me. What do you mean?

I mean just that. "I voted for the guy who looked the worst."

But civilians don't have to worry about how they LOOK- Mafia do. I'm more inclined to vote those who are the ones who look better than they should if they are civilian.

If you think Diiny is good, why aren't you helping him lynch Floyd?

That's backwards logic though. Civilians don't have to worry about how they look, yeah, so they will look genuine. I, like everyone else, have to assess who I think is being genuine and who isn't. Hence, I thought Enrique seemed less genuine (aka worse) than Diiny. I'm not sure I see what you're getting at. Isn't that part of the game?

Just because I'm town reading Diiny doesn't mean I think he has to be right about his Floyd suspicion.

It isn't backwards logic. "Civilians don't have to worry about how they look, yeah, so they will look genuine." How'd that work out for Enrique, DrWilgy, and 3J? They all got lynched.

Do you also not think Floyd is bad? If not, why not?

[Tangrowth]

I thought Enrique looked worse than Diiny Day 1, so yeah, that's how I voted. I have to make a judgment as to whether players are mafia or not... that's the game. If I think someone is town, you better bet I'm going to defend them. There is always a disclaimer that I'm wrong, and I'm always willing to reconsider my evaluations.

Mafia have to try to look good. Yet people vote based on who "looked worse." How does that work out? I'll never understand this mindset.

You lost me. What do you mean?

I mean just that. "I voted for the guy who looked the worst."

But civilians don't have to worry about how they LOOK- Mafia do. I'm more inclined to vote those who are the ones who look better than they should if they are civilian.

If you think Diiny is good, why aren't you helping him lynch Floyd?

That's backwards logic though. Civilians don't have to worry about how they look, yeah, so they will look genuine. I, like everyone else, have to assess who I think is being genuine and who isn't. Hence, I thought Enrique seemed less genuine (aka worse) than Diiny. I'm not sure I see what you're getting at. Isn't that part of the game?

Just because I'm town reading Diiny doesn't mean I think he has to be right about his Floyd suspicion.

It isn't backwards logic. "Civilians don't have to worry about how they look, yeah, so they will look genuine." How'd that work out for Enrique, DrWilgy, and 3J? They all got lynched.

Do you also not think Floyd is bad? If not, why not?

Mislynches happen though. I'm still missing what your point is.

GTH I mafia read Floyd, yeah, but he's not my top suspect for sure. I hesitate because I have seen more insight from him comparatively this game than past games, and he is calling out players for mafia behavior; although it isn't always greatly substantiated, it's something.

You said earlier that you cannot see Floyd being on a team continually voting Diiny. Can you elaborate on why? I find that to be null.

[Tangrowth]

If I could lynch one player right now, I think it'd be sig. I'm going to ISO him right now though; I've lost interest in Mac. I do not want to lynch Mac today.