Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [GAME OVER - TOWN WIN]

[arogame123]

Also, pikachu does have a similar play style to me so I can empathise with her and how she approaches the game, hence, it’s easier for me to read her based on her content/intent with her posts. And because I’ve gotten better at that, I’m able to get a better read on her alignment which I do stake some pride in tbh.

@Neon this response added onto the experience one should answer ur question.

And as far as her posting, she’s been not Agenda-y and has responded well to pressure on her. Not flaily and is composed. She isn’t taking things for granted and you can tell that she is genuilly attempting to solve and get in her headspace without making stuff up to “appear towny.” There’s a difference in how she approaches her mafia game and rn I just see town!pika tbh.

[EnderWiggin]

@EnderWiggin when you get caught up, Lmk ur thoughts on the game and ur pov.

I have a feeling that you, me, or Santy is gonna die today and I’d like to hear ur thoughts on current voting as well and the people that sr u.

Santy is wolf so that's fine by me.

[arogame123]

exercise for y'all

which players have confident reads they shouldn't have

I want to say Porscha on Lily tbh

Funny i want to say you on SPF

Also maybe Santy on me but maybe not. I'm like afraid to read Santy after mafia Misplay lol

What are your thoughts on Santy’s progression on ur slot and how he came to town reading u?

Also, were u both town in mafia misplay?

Yes we were both town.

Yes I can see how he progressed to town reading me.

Yes I am pretty much in my town meta.

But like the confidence in my towniness feels weird. Town reading me makes sense. Town reading me so strongly ... maybe not.

But to answer ur question Lily-sama, it’s because I feel that with what u had at the time, it felt pre-mature for Porscha to
Go “Lily-lock town never rescind” and it feels a bit out of place considering the games that Porscha had been in with u where she doesn’t find you as “confident town” early in games

well i guess in my mind i'm playing in a very obv town way so when someone who knows me as a player very well notices that it's not weird lol

she knows how fucking awkward i am as a wolf

@Lilypetal i can see where ur coming from and neon’s approach to santy is kind of what I’m
Applying to Porscha if that makes sense.

A town read is fine but the confidence of it is another.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Also, pikachu does have a similar play style to me so I can empathise with her and how she approaches the game, hence, it’s easier for me to read her based on her content/intent with her posts. And because I’ve gotten better at that, I’m able to get a better read on her alignment which I do stake some pride in tbh.

@Neon this response added onto the experience one should answer ur question.

And as far as her posting, she’s been not Agenda-y and has responded well to pressure on her. Not flaily and is composed. She isn’t taking things for granted and you can tell that she is genuilly attempting to solve and get in her headspace without making stuff up to “appear towny.” There’s a difference in how she approaches her mafia game and rn I just see town!pika tbh.

None of this has changed the idea in my head that you are way to confident on spf for this stage of the game.

Maybe I have a skill issue.

[arogame123]

Lily has officially moved up into town leans. Congrats

[arogame123]

Also, pikachu does have a similar play style to me so I can empathise with her and how she approaches the game, hence, it’s easier for me to read her based on her content/intent with her posts. And because I’ve gotten better at that, I’m able to get a better read on her alignment which I do stake some pride in tbh.

@Neon this response added onto the experience one should answer ur question.

And as far as her posting, she’s been not Agenda-y and has responded well to pressure on her. Not flaily and is composed. She isn’t taking things for granted and you can tell that she is genuilly attempting to solve and get in her headspace without making stuff up to “appear towny.” There’s a difference in how she approaches her mafia game and rn I just see town!pika tbh.

None of this has changed the idea in my head that you are way to confident on spf for this stage of the game.

Maybe I have a skill issue.

But I don’t understand. I have experience and a similar play style to her that I can empathise and read better as a result.

What do u qualify then as being able to “confidently read someone” as either alignment?

[EnderWiggin]

[VOTE: Tilgarial] aubergine

SPF is probably town for reasons that this vote solidifies in my head.

[arogame123]

@staypositivefriend pikachu, what do u think of the confidence of my read on your slot?

[arogame123]

@Lilypetal who do u want to kill today if not me?

[EnderWiggin]

I thought it ender felt a bit pockety towards me (tbf he openly admitted he was) but aside for his tr on me (which I’m not used to him giving me early)he seems pretty fine so far

I will say that I did like Ender's attention to detail with the wording in my post with the analysis of my use of "confbias" which illustrates one who is reading/paying attention to every little detail.

How does a scumEnder look like? I think I have only played with a townEnder in the past.

You are in his scum range,
You are scum Ender,
I am scum Ender

He has a wide range is what I am trying to say

I mimic my town play a lot as scum. Thunal is one of the few I'd say that can pick scum Ender well and she mostly looks for how I go about my solving because she actually understands that.

[Lilypetal]

Lily has officially moved up into town leans. Congrats

wow thanks

but why

[Lilypetal]

@Lilypetal who do u want to kill today if not me?

unsure yet

would you say you're tryharding this game, aro?

[EnderWiggin]

am I the one going crazy here, is Rondo like obvious or something?

No. People are just confident on bad things and he hasn't had the chance to abuse them yet.

[arogame123]

Also, something important to note, I develop my reads either quickly or slowly depending on how I’m feeling about the game and trying to perceive the info around me. So just apologies to those that feel like I should have found them sooner when I’m trying my best to lol

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: ilario] aubergine reasons

[arogame123]

Lily has officially moved up into town leans. Congrats

wow thanks

but why

I actually liked the way you evaluated/thought of ur own slot. As mafia, you know you’re scummy in game as well and admit that, but I feel that as town, you’re more confident and feel more reassuring about your play in the game.

It reminded me of KoTH when I was pushing on u as mafia and you felt surprised that I wasn’t finding u town and felt that it was “odd.” I could tell u had a similar feeling based off ur posts so far this game so yea.

As I said, I’d get to read u better as the day went hehe.

Also, just curious tho, is there a reason ur happy that I found u if u think I’m mafia lol?

[EnderWiggin]

i wish there was someone i didnt like in the lobby just so i could guilt free tunnel a slot d1

ill most likely keep my vote on spf or ender today...perhaps aro but nott really because id feel bad if he flips town after the big effort he went with to work with me

This is different to how you normally handle my slot on D1. Care to elaborate on why I'm scummy?

[arogame123]

[VOTE: ilario] aubergine reasons

Spicy.

If I ask you why, will you give me like a one-sentence reason?

[Belzy]

think ppl who say neon are town are either town and likely to be right, or mafia and likely to be tmi

therefore neon town

This is an interesting way to townread Neon.

[EnderWiggin]

@ilario , let's assume 5 combined mafia/3p.

Leaves at least 13 town and with 18 without vig shots or anything, we have 8 kills. So a 10 towncore would do.

My towns that I have rn (different confidences) are Aro, Mac, Illario, SPF, Nanook, Wisp, Ender, Rondo.

Any thoughts on that list so far and do you have any opnions on anyone else that I don't have in there? I want to dominate this game hehe.

hmmm id defs have alison in there, in all honesty shes the only read i feel good about.

whilst i agree spf,nook,ender,rondo for me personally have shown signs of towniness + belsy as well i dont feel like any of those names has done anytihing lock worthy. also imo its better to wait to form towncores until everyones posted to avoid bias

I like this post, I prefer to wait till we have some flips too but yeah

Actually wait how did you get from "SPF/Ender towny" to "I'll vote SPF/Ender today"?

[arogame123]

am I the one going crazy here, is Rondo like obvious or something?

No. People are just confident on bad things and he hasn't had the chance to abuse them yet.

Do u mean to say that has mafia, rondo hasn’t done the things that people tr him for? Hence, he’s likely town since he’s done similar things that he does when he’s town?

[EnderWiggin]

That was at illario not Rondo.

[Lilypetal]

Lily has officially moved up into town leans. Congrats

wow thanks

but why

I actually liked the way you evaluated/thought of ur own slot. As mafia, you know you’re scummy in game as well and admit that, but I feel that as town, you’re more confident and feel more reassuring about your play in the game.

It reminded me of KoTH when I was pushing on u as mafia and you felt surprised that I wasn’t finding u town and felt that it was “odd.” I could tell u had a similar feeling based off ur posts so far this game so yea.

As I said, I’d get to read u better as the day went hehe.

Also, just curious tho, is there a reason ur happy that I found u if u think I’m mafia lol?

the wow thanks is purely sarcastic

[EnderWiggin]

am I the one going crazy here, is Rondo like obvious or something?

No. People are just confident on bad things and he hasn't had the chance to abuse them yet.

Do u mean to say that has mafia, rondo hasn’t done the things that people tr him for? Hence, he’s likely town since he’s done similar things that he does when he’s town?

He's been mafia once.

He then used the thing Mac was townreading him for most of the time to get a free townread and won the game iirc.

He hasn't had the chance to wolf for illario and a few others so they're townreading him on things he will remember to use against them.

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: ilario] aubergine reasons

Spicy.

If I ask you why, will you give me like a one-sentence reason?

his play has causes everyone to townread him which means he hasn't scumread any town which means he has tmi

[EnderWiggin]

am I the one going crazy here, is Rondo like obvious or something?

Why are you scumreading Rondo?

They haven't and still arent taking this game seriously
almost every vote feels like a meme, I think they have the worst entrance out of all the players in this game
If its as common as people say, I dont have any idea how to read them

Best advice I can give is look for what questions they're asking and what position they take in thread.

They will always joke and ask questions.

[Lilypetal]

[VOTE: millium] aubergine

probably the scummiest slot i can think of

[arogame123]

@Lilypetal who do u want to kill today if not me?

unsure yet

would you say you're tryharding this game, aro?

:/

Meh. Not really tbh. I’m just playing a game and having fun.

I feel more like a game manager this game and just making sure I don’t “lose us” the game rather than having to go out there and “make big plays.” If that makes sense

[MacDougall]

am I the one going crazy here, is Rondo like obvious or something?

No. People are just confident on bad things and he hasn't had the chance to abuse them yet.

Do u mean to say that has mafia, rondo hasn’t done the things that people tr him for? Hence, he’s likely town since he’s done similar things that he does when he’s town?

He's been mafia once.

He then used the thing Mac was townreading him for most of the time to get a free townread and won the game iirc.

He hasn't had the chance to wolf for illario and a few others so they're townreading him on things he will remember to use against them.

that mac was townreading him for at the time, not this time

[Lilypetal]

@Lilypetal who do u want to kill today if not me?

unsure yet

would you say you're tryharding this game, aro?

:/

Meh. Not really tbh. I’m just playing a game and having fun.

I feel more like a game manager this game and just making sure I don’t “lose us” the game rather than having to go out there and “make big plays.” If that makes sense

I feel like you're tryharding ig like the vibe you give off is very serious and like you have high wim

i guess i'm just trying to see what's going on in your head, but if you say you're not that's interesting

[EnderWiggin]

am I the one going crazy here, is Rondo like obvious or something?

No. People are just confident on bad things and he hasn't had the chance to abuse them yet.

Do u mean to say that has mafia, rondo hasn’t done the things that people tr him for? Hence, he’s likely town since he’s done similar things that he does when he’s town?

He's been mafia once.

He then used the thing Mac was townreading him for most of the time to get a free townread and won the game iirc.

He hasn't had the chance to wolf for illario and a few others so they're townreading him on things he will remember to use against them.

that mac was townreading him for at the time, not this time

Yes. Sorry. Clarity. Mac used it at the time and rightfully no longer uses that read on Rondo because Rondo has proven he can abuse it.

My point is that there are a lot of townreads on Rondo rn that are about things he 100% can fake.

[MacDougall]

arogame is probably town here because he's being suspected by everyone and clearly isn't in antispew

[arogame123]

[VOTE: ilario] aubergine reasons

Spicy.

If I ask you why, will you give me like a one-sentence reason?

his play has causes everyone to townread him which means he hasn't scumread any town which means he has tmi

Well he’s scum read me and spf for one and I believe that spf is town and I know I’m town lol.

I’m a bit confused on the connection between how his play causing everyone to tr him means he hasn’t sr any town?

[MacDougall]

people rly shouldn't sheep my legacy on townreads like ever btw... like kill my scumreads fine but if my townreads live til endgame it's cuz they're wolves

[EnderWiggin]

I've cooled on my illario townread, will consider again later.

i thought this post from ender was towny on first impression bcuz it's rare for a wolf to just naturally re-assess one of their townreads without being specifically prompted to

but then i realized the only reason ender changed his townread on illario is probably because illario specifically called out that ender's townread on illario was wolfy

which kind of makes me think that ender did it to appease illario and keep illario on his good side and not because he was genuinely weighing illario's alignment

im also kind of skeptical of how real ender's townread on illario was in the first place considering that the posts that he called illario towny for were barely or only tangentially related to the actual game

so yeah he could be mafia

Lmao what.

I mean, sure, probably shouldn't townread me on re-evalling because that's absolutely something I do as wolf.

However I'm never afraid of people calling my stances wolfy. Bruh.

[arogame123]

am I the one going crazy here, is Rondo like obvious or something?

No. People are just confident on bad things and he hasn't had the chance to abuse them yet.

Do u mean to say that has mafia, rondo hasn’t done the things that people tr him for? Hence, he’s likely town since he’s done similar things that he does when he’s town?

He's been mafia once.

He then used the thing Mac was townreading him for most of the time to get a free townread and won the game iirc.

He hasn't had the chance to wolf for illario and a few others so they're townreading him on things he will remember to use against them.

that mac was townreading him for at the time, not this time

Yes. Sorry. Clarity. Mac used it at the time and rightfully no longer uses that read on Rondo because Rondo has proven he can abuse it.

My point is that there are a lot of townreads on Rondo rn that are about things he 100% can fake.

Ah ok gotcha. Thanks!

So what are ur thoughts on Mac’s meta read on Rondo with the “rubix cube”/“dog toy” cause that made me feel better about rondo when mac brought that specific read up.

[EnderWiggin]

arogame is probably town here because he's being suspected by everyone and clearly isn't in antispew

Tbh have kinda been feeling this.

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: ilario] aubergine reasons

Spicy.

If I ask you why, will you give me like a one-sentence reason?

his play has causes everyone to townread him which means he hasn't scumread any town which means he has tmi

Well he’s scum read me and spf for one and I believe that spf is town and I know I’m town lol.

I’m a bit confused on the connection between how his play causing everyone to tr him means he hasn’t sr any town?

he clearly hasn't scumread either of you with any force more to the point

if town ilario scumread town aro or town spf you'd be feeling it a lot harder than you are

[staypositivefriend]

@staypositivefriend pikachu, what do u think of the confidence of my read on your slot?

some mix of feeling like you are townclearing me too easily when i am definitely still within both of my ranges but that i also find it plausible that you would feel feel confident about your ability to find me as town

i actually remember that you townread me fairly confidently too in the anni mash a few months ago when i was W and you were T, so i dont think that you strongly townreading me is wolf indicative at least. i am planning to read you by other metrics this game

unfortunately im not really here rn, just staying caught up with the game so that i dont have an overwhelming amount of content to catch up with when i wake up tomorrow

[EnderWiggin]

am I the one going crazy here, is Rondo like obvious or something?

No. People are just confident on bad things and he hasn't had the chance to abuse them yet.

Do u mean to say that has mafia, rondo hasn’t done the things that people tr him for? Hence, he’s likely town since he’s done similar things that he does when he’s town?

He's been mafia once.

He then used the thing Mac was townreading him for most of the time to get a free townread and won the game iirc.

He hasn't had the chance to wolf for illario and a few others so they're townreading him on things he will remember to use against them.

that mac was townreading him for at the time, not this time

Yes. Sorry. Clarity. Mac used it at the time and rightfully no longer uses that read on Rondo because Rondo has proven he can abuse it.

My point is that there are a lot of townreads on Rondo rn that are about things he 100% can fake.

Ah ok gotcha. Thanks!

So what are ur thoughts on Mac’s meta read on Rondo with the “rubix cube”/“dog toy” cause that made me feel better about rondo when mac brought that specific read up.

I'm actually not sure. I haven't paid enough attention to notice but that actually does sound more like something that legit might sort Rondo.

He loves to work out complex/powerful town and play games based around dancing circles around them.

[Belzy]

my revised reads atm are probs something like

alison neon mac santy sean as villa

rondo wisp betsy as villa leans

ill probs have to go over tilgs wolf game at some point to see if my townlean there was justified but ngl their read on me felt pretty thoughtful and i cant recall if they matched anything like that last game

/vote ender

What makes you townreading Alison and Neon this strongly?

[arogame123]

people rly shouldn't sheep my legacy on townreads like ever btw... like kill my scumreads fine but if my townreads live til endgame it's cuz they're wolves

Aye aye, I usually give more focus on ur sr tbh just for reference because I believe u to be a better scum hunter than a town hunter!

[ilario]

i wish there was someone i didnt like in the lobby just so i could guilt free tunnel a slot d1

ill most likely keep my vote on spf or ender today...perhaps aro but nott really because id feel bad if he flips town after the big effort he went with to work with me

This is different to how you normally handle my slot on D1. Care to elaborate on why I'm scummy?

true

i elaborate why a little later from where youre at

[arogame123]

@Belzy Yahello!

How has your read on Wisp developed further since yesterday?

[arogame123]

Let me know ur thoughts on their recent posts

[Belzy]

Not necessarily I just expected it to be something

But your first thought was "Mac you haven't called me scum yet" which means you're surprised I didn't read you scum. Why do you think I should have scumread you by now?

Would you say I'm acting within normal ranges for Neon?

I asked you a question first.

Yes and your question belayed another question. And I'd like your answer before I give mine or I wouldn't have asked it.

I think you're an outed wolf.

ill vote neon with u

/vote neon

Was this a serious vote, btw?

[EnderWiggin]

a hot take that i have is that i actually lightly scumread Belzy. i think that he sounds okay on a tonal level but the actual content of his posts is generally disjointed and the way that he handled his suspicion of the wisp slot in particular didnt really feel like it came from the perspective of someone who cared about wisp's alignment

It's traditional Belzy tbh. There's certain things I townread there. Not out of wolf range but I'd take bets that this is more likely town because town!Belzy is unhurried about people reading or townreading them in a lax way.

[ilario]

[VOTE: ilario] aubergine reasons

Spicy.

If I ask you why, will you give me like a one-sentence reason?

his play has causes everyone to townread him which means he hasn't scumread any town which means he has tmi

doesnt that mean the people i have srd are >rand mafia with that theory?

[ilario]

But your first thought was "Mac you haven't called me scum yet" which means you're surprised I didn't read you scum. Why do you think I should have scumread you by now?

Would you say I'm acting within normal ranges for Neon?

I asked you a question first.

Yes and your question belayed another question. And I'd like your answer before I give mine or I wouldn't have asked it.

I think you're an outed wolf.

ill vote neon with u

/vote neon

Was this a serious vote, btw?

yeah lol

[EnderWiggin]

Illario also has been doing this weird sheep thing which feels off for their normal town play.