The Syndicate

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 8:59 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 5:29 pm I'm not actually sold on PSV anymore and I'm currently ISOing pyxxy to see if I want to go there. One thing that I thought of about the ping that PSV stuck me in her PoE was that if she were a wolf, she might have been *more* consistent to try to telegraph her change on me from townlean to PoE instead of just sticking me there.

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 5:29 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 5:28 pm I don't really get the case on PSV (and lowkey want to vote Thunal for it)

Thunal isn't the one who made a case on me

That’s not a good look

If you look back just a bit you can see all the weird quotes Lemon posted that supposedly showed how town psv was

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 9:02 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 8:59 pm Argh quote fail on Kate but you can get the gist

I’m confused as to the takeaway of that post

Kate was suspecting Lemon bc of those reads

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 9:05 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 9:02 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 8:59 pm Argh quote fail on Kate but you can get the gist

I’m confused as to the takeaway of that post

Kate was suspecting Lemon bc of those reads

ok but lemon’s dead

I’m not going to be online for a bit but I had to pop in to say I shot Genny!

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 9:07 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 9:05 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 9:02 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 8:59 pm Argh quote fail on Kate but you can get the gist

I’m confused as to the takeaway of that post

Kate was suspecting Lemon bc of those reads

ok but lemon’s dead

Oh well nevermind lol.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 9:08 pm I’m not going to be online for a bit but I had to pop in to say I shot Genny!

This tracks.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 9:08 pm I’m not going to be online for a bit but I had to pop in to say I shot Genny!

A part of me feels like a wolf ploy is to gain cred that way, but the other part of me says it’s too early if you’re wolf

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 9:12 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 9:08 pm I’m not going to be online for a bit but I had to pop in to say I shot Genny!

A part of me feels like a wolf ploy is to gain cred that way, but the other part of me says it’s too early if you’re wolf

It's going to be hard to trust anyone after Apathy happened.

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 9:14 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 9:12 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 9:08 pm I’m not going to be online for a bit but I had to pop in to say I shot Genny!

A part of me feels like a wolf ploy is to gain cred that way, but the other part of me says it’s too early if you’re wolf

It's going to be hard to trust anyone after Apathy happened.

lol yeah ptsd

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 8:56 pm

Dubz wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 4:37 pm ...nah this ain't wolf!PSV

@Kate @Thunal33 y'all should reconsider

Dubz wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 6:18 pm Oh I see no one decided to listen to me about PSV. Okay.

This is so wrong i townread Dubz for it.

Genny is one thing. But uberdefending your teammate here? Too blatant for me

Not a very good look for Dubz tbh

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 9:07 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 9:05 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 9:02 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 8:59 pm Argh quote fail on Kate but you can get the gist

I’m confused as to the takeaway of that post

Kate was suspecting Lemon bc of those reads

ok but lemon’s dead

spoilers!

[VOTE: sean] aubergine



The likeliest Maf bussing PSV I'd wager

I'm working under the idea that genny was being defended by their teammates via the lowposter argument, cause in general I find lowposters maf get protected more by partners than highposters

I'm gonna run through the last few hours of yesterday and see what I find

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:42 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:40 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:00 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:19 am

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:06 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 10:19 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 10:06 pm in other news that we covered yesterday

dennis is town

What channel is this cause I don't remember that

ask your mom to buy you cable, it's the summer you should watch Game Show Network

For shame
Trying to corrupt our boy with chuck woolrey and richard dawson!



I actually did spend a few summers with GSN on at all times in the background

RICHARD

MF'ING

DAWSON

match game '61/'62/'63. formative

And Brett summers and Charles Nelson reilly!!!!

Dennis gonna be cultured

help who are these people

Dubz wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 4:37 pm ...nah this ain't wolf!PSV

@Kate @Thunal33 y'all should reconsider

This aged well

Jokes aside, not a great look

Okay well I guess I'm in my idiot meta but uhh no harm no foul?

Dennis wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 10:26 pm

Dubz wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 4:37 pm ...nah this ain't wolf!PSV

@Kate @Thunal33 y'all should reconsider

This aged well

Jokes aside, not a great look

Defending wolves is what a village!Dubz does best! Ask anyone!

I mean the people who would know are dead, and were wolves themselves...but...

Scotty can go in the village pile

He voted genny D1 about 25 minutes before close, tally just prior was

Creature (2) - pyxxy, Dubz
Dennis (1) - Scotty
Scotty (1) - Quin
Dubz (1) - lemon
Quin (4) - Kate, thunal, PSV, Creature
Kate (1) - falcon
Sean (1) - Porscha

Don't think a wolf puts the lowposter packmate on the board in that thread context

On first glance that's the biggest thing that stands out to me from d1, one other item of note is that when genny was most in danger d1 (3 votes: Scotty, Kate, creature) her closest counter was Quin (3 votes: thunal, PSV, Creature). So, maybe he was the village counter to her after all.

I'm gonna work through the d2 votes and look at some interactions with PSV but it'll have to be tomorrow.

Dubz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 10:29 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 10:26 pm

Dubz wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 4:37 pm ...nah this ain't wolf!PSV

@Kate @Thunal33 y'all should reconsider

This aged well

Jokes aside, not a great look

Defending wolves is what a village!Dubz does best! Ask anyone!

I mean the people who would know are dead, and were wolves themselves...but...

Hmm...

But at this point in the thread the votes were still being thrown around. So this kinda really looks like a save attempt to me, along with this post:

Dubz wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 4:49 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 4:43 pm

Dubz wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 4:37 pm ...nah this ain't wolf!PSV

@Kate @Thunal33 y'all should reconsider

Would you prefer you

No pls, I've never been misyoten in an off-SDN game and I'm not about to end that streak!

I'm serious though. I've seen wolf!PSV under pressure and I've seen village!PSV under pressure and this is not the former.

The way you seemed so confident gives me the feel you were determined to stop psv's elim but you couldn't really back it up

I don't actually think it's Dubz. If it were Dubz, I feel like the whole mafia gameplan would just be to lose. Kate scumread both PSV and Genny and had influence, so even if I didn't shoot Genny I think she would have been eliminated fairly soon and I think Dubz would know this. Then Dubz looks bad and has no plan to go deep, and even if there's a fourth mafia it would be really hard for them to come back.

Btw we started with 17 so a fourth mafia is plausible. I think it's either 3 maf and a 3p or 4 maf.

@Dubz can you share your d1 vote tracking sheet?

Dennis wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 10:12 pm I'm working under the idea that genny was being defended by their teammates via the lowposter argument, cause in general I find lowposters maf get protected more by partners than highposters

I'm gonna run through the last few hours of yesterday and see what I find

Well that went nowhere but I am caught up now I guess

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 8:34 pm WOW.

A) 2 mafia down, in a 15 player game that probably means there’s only 1 more, right? assuming there’s no 3p’s as nook ‘doesn’t like to party’

B) why did Kate die? Ability from psv to kill one of her voters or was Kate poisoned or something?

If the latter, makes me wonder if someone like falcon didn’t green check her and actually did something nefarious.

C) I wasn’t actually feeling the psv yeet and only tried to switch to get art. Didn’t make it in time

The poison thing is a tinfoil I have. Day actions are possible, but it's also possible one of Zenon or Falcon actually poisoned Kate night 1 instead of doing what they claimed.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:06 pm I don't actually think it's Dubz. If it were Dubz, I feel like the whole mafia gameplan would just be to lose. Kate scumread both PSV and Genny and had influence, so even if I didn't shoot Genny I think she would have been eliminated fairly soon and I think Dubz would know this. Then Dubz looks bad and has no plan to go deep, and even if there's a fourth mafia it would be really hard for them to come back.

Btw we started with 17 so a fourth mafia is plausible. I think it's either 3 maf and a 3p or 4 maf.

But dubz wasn't defending genny (I think). She could have turned on her today and been in an okay spot. Also sorry for planting my vote on you and promptly ghosting thread

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:08 pm @Dubz can you share your d1 vote tracking sheet?

Yes but I haven't figured out the best way to do that...apparently can't attach pdf's lol

Is linking to a google doc legal here? Or is there a good way to embed a spreadsheet?

Dennis wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 10:55 pm

Dubz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 10:29 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 10:26 pm

Dubz wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 4:37 pm ...nah this ain't wolf!PSV

@Kate @Thunal33 y'all should reconsider

This aged well

Jokes aside, not a great look

Defending wolves is what a village!Dubz does best! Ask anyone!

I mean the people who would know are dead, and were wolves themselves...but...

Hmm...

But at this point in the thread the votes were still being thrown around. So this kinda really looks like a save attempt to me, along with this post:

Dubz wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 4:49 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 4:43 pm

Dubz wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 4:37 pm ...nah this ain't wolf!PSV

@Kate @Thunal33 y'all should reconsider

Would you prefer you

No pls, I've never been misyoten in an off-SDN game and I'm not about to end that streak!

I'm serious though. I've seen wolf!PSV under pressure and I've seen village!PSV under pressure and this is not the former.

The way you seemed so confident gives me the feel you were determined to stop psv's elim but you couldn't really back it up

I just really thought she was village, she was acting exactly how I've seen her act before when she's village and doesn't feel defending is going to get her anywhere.

I haven't seen her in that kind of...defeated headspace as a wolf.

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:58 am

Dubz wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:56 am

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:54 am I'm not sure, I could move you up a couple notches I suppose. I'm lumping you in with psv and genny in my mind. I will try not to do that.

Lol the SDN conglomerate. I am indeed my own person.

What's your take on Quin and on Scotty's defense there?

RIP the SDN squad, pillars of scumminess. The only thing wolfier than our patients is us.

lol if this is just prophetically outing

Dubz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:20 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:08 pm @Dubz can you share your d1 vote tracking sheet?

Yes but I haven't figured out the best way to do that...apparently can't attach pdf's lol

Is linking to a google doc legal here? Or is there a good way to embed a spreadsheet?

I don't think it is since it's editable. You can link to something that isn't editable like a pdf or just take pictures.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:06 pm I don't actually think it's Dubz. If it were Dubz, I feel like the whole mafia gameplan would just be to lose. Kate scumread both PSV and Genny and had influence, so even if I didn't shoot Genny I think she would have been eliminated fairly soon and I think Dubz would know this. Then Dubz looks bad and has no plan to go deep, and even if there's a fourth mafia it would be really hard for them to come back.

Btw we started with 17 so a fourth mafia is plausible. I think it's either 3 maf and a 3p or 4 maf.

Dammit there’s no Playerlist or ISOs so I have no idea who has played this game

Dennis wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:17 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:06 pm I don't actually think it's Dubz. If it were Dubz, I feel like the whole mafia gameplan would just be to lose. Kate scumread both PSV and Genny and had influence, so even if I didn't shoot Genny I think she would have been eliminated fairly soon and I think Dubz would know this. Then Dubz looks bad and has no plan to go deep, and even if there's a fourth mafia it would be really hard for them to come back.

Btw we started with 17 so a fourth mafia is plausible. I think it's either 3 maf and a 3p or 4 maf.

But dubz wasn't defending genny (I think). She could have turned on her today and been in an okay spot. Also sorry for planting my vote on you and promptly ghosting thread

Np, it's all part of the game. Dubz pretty much said genny was NAI and made a light "gennnnnyyyyyyyy Are you howling?" post when she returned. It's possible w!Dubz would turn on genny yes, but if PSV defended genny and Dubz defended PSV and genny continued lowposting I don't think bussing a low poster really matters for cred especially since Dubz called genny's activity NAI before.

Ok yeah there does seem to be 17 players so that would mean 4 mafia which is only slightly wolf sided but because of willy nilly roles that can be active, I would say this whole setup has the potential to be townsided

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:38 pm Ok yeah there does seem to be 17 players so that would mean 4 mafia which is only slightly wolf sided but because of willy nilly roles that can be active, I would say this whole setup has the potential to be townsided

Wait, I just counted 16 lol.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:31 pm

Dubz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:20 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:08 pm @Dubz can you share your d1 vote tracking sheet?

Yes but I haven't figured out the best way to do that...apparently can't attach pdf's lol

Is linking to a google doc legal here? Or is there a good way to embed a spreadsheet?

I don't think it is since it's editable. You can link to something that isn't editable like a pdf or just take pictures.

Okay this should link to the pdf



Apologies in advance, it's not visually appealing lol

[VOTE: Zenon] aubergine

Hey Zenon, are you woofin this game?

Oh god

Day 1 Votes

Brain fart, forgot that you can't just...stick the link in the reply box lol this should work

Would y'all believe I have two doctorates

Dubz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:41 pm Day 1 Votes

Brain fart, forgot that you can't just...stick the link in the reply box lol this should work

Access denied lol. Maybe just take screenshots of it?

Just an FYI, I know I am not a mod or anything but anything editable/outside of the thread is a no go. Youll need to take screen shots or something like that

RIP okay hold pls

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:39 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:38 pm Ok yeah there does seem to be 17 players so that would mean 4 mafia which is only slightly wolf sided but because of willy nilly roles that can be active, I would say this whole setup has the potential to be townsided

Wait, I just counted 16 lol.

Wait really, 17 signed up in the sign up thread

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME how many players are playing this game

"Files too large"

They're screenshots! How can they be too large!

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Dubz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:52 pm "Files too large"

They're screenshots! How can they be too large!

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Okay I give up on advice for now lol. When the Genny/Creature wagons were tied with 3 votes each d1, who was on them?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 8:16 pm See the OP for instructions!

Spoiler: show

@Camilla
@Creature
@Dennis
@Dubz
@Falcon45ca
@Genny
@Kate
@Lemonfairy
@Porscha
@potentialsheltervet
@pyxxy
@Quin
@Roxy
@Scotty
@Seanzie
@Thunal33

Nm ok he tagged 16

So 16. 4 v 12 is very much wolf sided, but again he might be counting on the setup being pro town regardless

Operating under assumption of 4 just in case. 3/16 is 18% which is a bit low

If this doesn't work I'll try again tomorrow, it's past my bedtime

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:55 pm

Dubz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:52 pm "Files too large"

They're screenshots! How can they be too large!

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Okay I give up on advice for now lol. When the Genny/Creature wagons were tied with 3 votes each d1, who was on them?

genny - Scotty, Kate, Creature
Creature - pyxxy, Dubz, thunal

Dubz wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 12:00 am

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:55 pm

Dubz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:52 pm "Files too large"

They're screenshots! How can they be too large!

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Okay I give up on advice for now lol. When the Genny/Creature wagons were tied with 3 votes each d1, who was on them?

genny - Scotty, Kate, Creature
Creature - pyxxy, Dubz, thunal

Thanks, and glad you finally got it working on the 500th try!

Cool, cool cool cool.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 9:52 pm [VOTE: sean] aubergine



The likeliest Maf bussing PSV I'd wager

What did you do last night?