Similar question for the HOST:Quin wrote:Ricochet. This game does fit within the heist guidelines, right? :P
Do you interpret "3 power role limit" as being limited to just the civilian faction, or to the entire game roster?
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Similar question for the HOST:Quin wrote:Ricochet. This game does fit within the heist guidelines, right? :P
I'm afraid I can't answer that.Quin wrote: Ricochet. This game does fit within the heist guidelines, right? :P
I would interpret the limiter to the full game roster.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Similar question for the HOST:Quin wrote:Ricochet. This game does fit within the heist guidelines, right? :P
Do you interpret "3 power role limit" as being limited to just the civilian faction, or to the entire game roster?
Because I was told that I was blocked. No specification on how or by whom. Just that I was blocked.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Possibilities that I can readily identify:G-Man wrote:Beats me then.
~ There are three non-vanilla roles in this game: cop, roleblocker, paranoid mafia leader. The roleblocker can belong to either faction. This would suit one of the scenarios you mentioned, but it doesn't explain Scotty as an independent. The roleblocker could have either prevented your cop peek or your night kill.
~ Baddie kill abstinence, meant to smear G-Man in a last-ditch effort to turn around a game collapsing over them. The roleblock can still come from either side. Scotty not accounted for.
~ Doctor protection on G-Man and a roleblocker. Too many roles, Scotty still unaccounted for.
~ G-Man himself abstained from a kill and prepared this explanation ahead of time.
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G-Man: how do you know you were blocked?
ElohcinJaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wait a minute: Scotty can be an independent with a roleblock as his power or among his powers. That could reconcile two of them.
Ehhh. This all seems like such a bizarre gambit if that's the case.Quin wrote:ElohcinJaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wait a minute: Scotty can be an independent with a roleblock as his power or among his powers. That could reconcile two of them.
Scotty
G-Man
Abstinent night kill
Is this your final answer, JumboJollyJim?
I've considered the effectiveness of withholding a night kill but I don't see it actually being done, especially right after a mafia was lynched. I personally think they'd try to kill the cop. But in turn, that means that the killer was either roleblocked or the target was protected. Either way, that's a fourth role. Ricochet's hosted heists before so I'm sure he knows to limit the amount of power roles appropriately.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Ehhh. This all seems like such a bizarre gambit if that's the case.Quin wrote:ElohcinJaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wait a minute: Scotty can be an independent with a roleblock as his power or among his powers. That could reconcile two of them.
Scotty
G-Man
Abstinent night kill
Is this your final answer, JumboJollyJim?
Because I wanted to confirm her before lynching her. With my N1 and N2 peeks I was casting a wide net to possibly rule people out. Now I want to confirm.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:G-Man: why peek the player who was already the most likely to be lynched today?
22 and 3JaggedJimmyJay wrote:G-Man, how many posts did you make on Day 3 and Night 3?
You you.Epignosis wrote:My my.
Okay, but what are your thoughts?Epignosis wrote:My my.
Those are really small numbers, mehQuin wrote:I'm thinking that I want my post count to end on either 4 9 or 13 this phase.
Or multiples of those numbers, of course.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Those are really small numbers, mehQuin wrote:I'm thinking that I want my post count to end on either 4 9 or 13 this phase.
I have you at 121 posts on Day 2, ffs.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Those are really small numbers, mehQuin wrote:I'm thinking that I want my post count to end on either 4 9 or 13 this phase.
Given your earlier resignation/willingness to be lynched, I am inclined to believe you at face value that you are independent and that you are not something we need to be worried about.Spacedaisy wrote:I am going to claim something that hopefully will help you narrow some options down. I am an Indy. I do not have a role power, I had a set of win conditions I had to fill out at the beginning but I don't have any ability to do anything to anyone and I have no vested interest in either side winning nor do they need me dead. It is for this reason I disbelieve the Scotty Indy peek and have implied this a coupl times already I the game. Two Indy roles in such a small game seems odd to say the least, plus Scotty has vehemently denied it. You can probably eliminate the idea of an Indy power role, it seems unlikely to me given what I shared.
Mostly on my phone.Ricochet wrote:I have you at 121 posts on Day 2, ffs.
After The Office, I won't be hurting any innocent independents. It's time someone took a stand.Spacedaisy wrote:I'm pretty sure I can't tell you my role's name as per the rules given to us by Rico. Let me check with him to see what I can say before I go forward with anymore info. I hesitated to outright claim this earlier given our sites propensity for lynching Indy roles because they don't trust them, but I think now the info can be helpful to figuring out who can be trusted.
Great theory, until, you know, we lynch the cop.Epignosis wrote:Took a piss and thought of this:
Lynch G-Man. If he's a cop, it proves there is a blocker, and the blocker is mafia. If he's mafia, great, and it is serious evidence the blocker is a civilian.
If there's a civilian blocker, he or she needs to just claim that shit right now.Epignosis wrote:Took a piss and thought of this:
Lynch G-Man. If he's a cop, it proves there is a blocker, and the blocker is mafia. If he's mafia, great, and it is serious evidence the blocker is a civilian.
Not I, said the skeletor.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:If there's a civilian blocker, he or she needs to just claim that shit right now.Epignosis wrote:Took a piss and thought of this:
Lynch G-Man. If he's a cop, it proves there is a blocker, and the blocker is mafia. If he's mafia, great, and it is serious evidence the blocker is a civilian.
The cop who should be dead by now?Quin wrote:Great theory, until, you know, we lynch the cop.Epignosis wrote:Took a piss and thought of this:
Lynch G-Man. If he's a cop, it proves there is a blocker, and the blocker is mafia. If he's mafia, great, and it is serious evidence the blocker is a civilian.
\_(:T)_/Epignosis wrote:The cop who should be dead by now?Quin wrote:Great theory, until, you know, we lynch the cop.Epignosis wrote:Took a piss and thought of this:
Lynch G-Man. If he's a cop, it proves there is a blocker, and the blocker is mafia. If he's mafia, great, and it is serious evidence the blocker is a civilian.
Unless this game does not fall within the heist guidelines, I guess.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:It is impossible
Define "better than vanilla role".JaggedJimmyJay wrote:HOST:
Do you interpret "power role" to mean "non-vanilla role" or "better than vanilla role"?
But of course.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:G-Man, explain your rationale for your other peek choices as well.
Some might not consider the beloved princess to be a "power role", for example. It is non-vanilla, but it is only harmful and never beneficial to town (when a BP is lynched, the following day phase is skipped).Ricochet wrote:Define "better than vanilla role".JaggedJimmyJay wrote:HOST:
Do you interpret "power role" to mean "non-vanilla role" or "better than vanilla role"?
Better question: do you consider roles with passive abilities (survivor with an either/or wincon) but no active power to be non-vanilla?Ricochet wrote:Define "better than vanilla role".JaggedJimmyJay wrote:HOST:
Do you interpret "power role" to mean "non-vanilla role" or "better than vanilla role"?
Oh, okay I see.Spacedaisy wrote:You did not listen to what I said. I don't have a role power, I only have an Indy win con. I am by definition vanilla.
Sloonei would punch you in the face for this statement.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:HOST:
Do you interpret "power role" to mean "non-vanilla role" or "better than vanilla role"?
Well, I fear we're getting complicated here, because I would actually consider a BP to be a power role - the BP can trigger an event that's integrated in the game.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Some might not consider the beloved princess to be a "power role", for example. It is non-vanilla, but it is only harmful and never beneficial to town (when a BP is lynched, the following day phase is skipped).Ricochet wrote:Define "better than vanilla role".JaggedJimmyJay wrote:HOST:
Do you interpret "power role" to mean "non-vanilla role" or "better than vanilla role"?
Open to interpretation, but I would lean on no. Is "having to survive / surviving the game" really an ability? If answer is no, then it doesn't fall within "power roles". If, on the other hand, one regards anything besides "you are X, alignment z, vanilla" to fall within "power roles", thenG-Man wrote:Better question: do you consider roles with passive abilities (survivor with an either/or wincon) but no active power to be non-vanilla?Ricochet wrote:Define "better than vanilla role".JaggedJimmyJay wrote:HOST:
Do you interpret "power role" to mean "non-vanilla role" or "better than vanilla role"?
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