Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 12]
Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:40 pm
[mention]juliets[/mention] how much faith do you put in our Deified Gamemakers to keep balance?
I'm not certain I understand the question. Do you mean how much faith do I put in LLD and Jack?Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:40 pm @juliets how much faith do you put in our Deified Gamemakers to keep balance?
Lol I can tell this is gonna be good.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:40 pm how much faith do you put in our Deified Gamemakers to keep balance?
Actually wait good idea.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:49 pm Let me try colour coding and such.
On Day 3:
Dream Level 2 - 112, LLD, Mac, Michelle, Quin
Dream Level 3 - Colin, Dom, Epi, Eva, iaafr, Jack, Radishes, Pawn, sprit
Where is the scum likely to be found?
...is what you have to say, yes.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:50 pm We already went over this. We don’t know how many scum belonged on each level and even if we did, we don’t know where Drago was supposed to go.
And your response to that massive hole in your idea is what?Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:51 pm...is what you have to say, yes.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:50 pm We already went over this. We don’t know how many scum belonged on each level and even if we did, we don’t know where Drago was supposed to go.
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:54 pm On Day 4:
DL2: 112, Mac, Michelle, Colin*, Pawn*
DL3: Dom, Epi, iaafr, Jack
DL4: Eva, Radishes, sprityo
Again, where's the scum?
Well, yeah, that's clearly been established already, considering there were no real 'lynches' or 'kills'.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:00 pm If there’s a wolf at every level, it means that D2 and D3 were joke phases that didn’t do anything except at DL1.
I’m trying to debunk your bullshit which could cause Juliets, who has had a hell of a week, to make a wrong snap decision.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:58 pm Jack's snarky post ^ is not made by a townie trying to convince us of his innocence.
If Jack thinks I'm 3P (I was expecting a light blue colour, though) then he should be making his case for LLD or juliets to be the mafia. Instead he's trying to get me lynched and effectively rolling his eyes at me and playing the 'well we just don't know' card.
The fuck are you talking about?Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:00 pm Side bar: I've not forgotten how in D1 Eva and Nutella argued with charts and things and Jack towncleared Eva for it.
Your mechanics are bad. Lynching 3P here does not help the town win, no matter who among us it is. We have to lynch scum first, always.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:03 pmI’m trying to debunk your bullshit which could cause Juliets, who has had a hell of a week, to make a wrong snap decision.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:58 pm Jack's snarky post ^ is not made by a townie trying to convince us of his innocence.
If Jack thinks I'm 3P (I was expecting a light blue colour, though) then he should be making his case for LLD or juliets to be the mafia. Instead he's trying to get me lynched and effectively rolling his eyes at me and playing the 'well we just don't know' card.
You a textbook poisoning the well. Put forth a nonsense case. If I let it stand, I’m a wolf. If I debunk it, I’m a wolf.
Just because you’re ignoring mechanical ways for townies to win (cause you’re not interested in them because you’re not town) doesn’t mean the town should. There are mechanical things that I don’t know because I’m not Juliets. That fact doesn’t make me scum.
The time you said Eva was town because of something something arguing with nutella.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:04 pmThe fuck are you talking about?Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:00 pm Side bar: I've not forgotten how in D1 Eva and Nutella argued with charts and things and Jack towncleared Eva for it.
If we lynch you and nobody is poisoned and LLD shoots the commuter or if we lynch you and LLD is poisoned, town wins.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:05 pmYour mechanics are bad. Lynching 3P here does not help the town win, no matter who among us it is. We have to lynch scum first, always.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:03 pmI’m trying to debunk your bullshit which could cause Juliets, who has had a hell of a week, to make a wrong snap decision.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:58 pm Jack's snarky post ^ is not made by a townie trying to convince us of his innocence.
If Jack thinks I'm 3P (I was expecting a light blue colour, though) then he should be making his case for LLD or juliets to be the mafia. Instead he's trying to get me lynched and effectively rolling his eyes at me and playing the 'well we just don't know' card.
You a textbook poisoning the well. Put forth a nonsense case. If I let it stand, I’m a wolf. If I debunk it, I’m a wolf.
Just because you’re ignoring mechanical ways for townies to win (cause you’re not interested in them because you’re not town) doesn’t mean the town should. There are mechanical things that I don’t know because I’m not Juliets. That fact doesn’t make me scum.
The last two lines in your post there are also not said by townies.
I don’t have the slightest idea what you are talking about.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:06 pmThe time you said Eva was town because of something something arguing with nutella.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:04 pmThe fuck are you talking about?Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:00 pm Side bar: I've not forgotten how in D1 Eva and Nutella argued with charts and things and Jack towncleared Eva for it.
I TRed you for it at the time and everyone flipped out, so it stuck in my mind.
But your 'fact' isn't covering all scenarios, and also contains far too many 'ifs' within each option.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:10 pmIf we lynch you and nobody is poisoned and LLD shoots the commuter or if we lynch you and LLD is poisoned, town wins.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:05 pmYour mechanics are bad. Lynching 3P here does not help the town win, no matter who among us it is. We have to lynch scum first, always.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:03 pmI’m trying to debunk your bullshit which could cause Juliets, who has had a hell of a week, to make a wrong snap decision.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:58 pm Jack's snarky post ^ is not made by a townie trying to convince us of his innocence.
If Jack thinks I'm 3P (I was expecting a light blue colour, though) then he should be making his case for LLD or juliets to be the mafia. Instead he's trying to get me lynched and effectively rolling his eyes at me and playing the 'well we just don't know' card.
You a textbook poisoning the well. Put forth a nonsense case. If I let it stand, I’m a wolf. If I debunk it, I’m a wolf.
Just because you’re ignoring mechanical ways for townies to win (cause you’re not interested in them because you’re not town) doesn’t mean the town should. There are mechanical things that I don’t know because I’m not Juliets. That fact doesn’t make me scum.
The last two lines in your post there are also not said by townies.
That’s a fact.
I haven’t voted for you because that may not be the best way to get the town to win.
You’re dishonestly pushing me because I pushed you first. You don’t really care who gets lynched but if I lose credibility, it’s less likely to be you.
You said it doesn’t lead to a town win. I said it could. I’m right. You’re wrong. I know there are a lot of ifs. That’s why I’ve spent all phases trying to figure out the ifs and that’s why I’m not voting you.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:14 pmBut your 'fact' isn't covering all scenarios, and also contains far too many 'ifs' within each option.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:10 pmIf we lynch you and nobody is poisoned and LLD shoots the commuter or if we lynch you and LLD is poisoned, town wins.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:05 pmYour mechanics are bad. Lynching 3P here does not help the town win, no matter who among us it is. We have to lynch scum first, always.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:03 pmI’m trying to debunk your bullshit which could cause Juliets, who has had a hell of a week, to make a wrong snap decision.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:58 pm Jack's snarky post ^ is not made by a townie trying to convince us of his innocence.
If Jack thinks I'm 3P (I was expecting a light blue colour, though) then he should be making his case for LLD or juliets to be the mafia. Instead he's trying to get me lynched and effectively rolling his eyes at me and playing the 'well we just don't know' card.
You a textbook poisoning the well. Put forth a nonsense case. If I let it stand, I’m a wolf. If I debunk it, I’m a wolf.
Just because you’re ignoring mechanical ways for townies to win (cause you’re not interested in them because you’re not town) doesn’t mean the town should. There are mechanical things that I don’t know because I’m not Juliets. That fact doesn’t make me scum.
The last two lines in your post there are also not said by townies.
That’s a fact.
I haven’t voted for you because that may not be the best way to get the town to win.
You’re dishonestly pushing me because I pushed you first. You don’t really care who gets lynched but if I lose credibility, it’s less likely to be you.
Also, now you're OMGUSing as a defence. Pick a defence and stick to it.
I don’t remember this part either but okay.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:20 pm Lmao I misremembered the Eva thing.
And it still doesn't end up a great look for you.
At the time you were calling Eva scummy, and I misread your posts and said I TRed you for TRing Eva.
You never corrected me, you just said you liked my read.
(Then, despite apparently SRing Eva, you went and voted 112.)
Okie dokie, the semantics argument, then. That's a winning town strategy too.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:22 pm You said it doesn’t lead to a town win. I said it could. I’m right. You’re wrong.
For the record, town doesn’t have majority so if I get lynched, it doesn’t count.
I never said it would lead to a town win.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:25 pmOkie dokie, the semantics argument, then. That's a winning town strategy too.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:22 pm You said it doesn’t lead to a town win. I said it could. I’m right. You’re wrong.![]()
Ok no problem. My head is not comprehending the math as well as you guys.Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:45 pm Like I can break down the math for you on each one if you want but the math is obvious honestly
What are the odds if we lynch town?Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:46 pm Lynch scum wins 2/3 times.
Lynch third party wins 1/3 times.
No lynch wins 4/9 times (1.33/3)
Lynching scum is mathematically correct
Oh honey.juliets wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:47 pmOk no problem. My head is not comprehending the math as well as you guys.Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:45 pm Like I can break down the math for you on each one if you want but the math is obvious honestly
Also, I broke down and decided I needed some wine.
If we lynch a townie, townies lose in all worlds. 0/3Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:49 pmWhat are the odds if we lynch town?Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:46 pm Lynch scum wins 2/3 times.
Lynch third party wins 1/3 times.
No lynch wins 4/9 times (1.33/3)
Lynching scum is mathematically correct
Oh sorry Lexi I mean my will broke down and I poured a glass of wine. I didn't emotionally break down. I'm really still in shock so a zombie but thank you for your kind words.Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:50 pmOh honey.juliets wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:47 pmOk no problem. My head is not comprehending the math as well as you guys.Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:45 pm Like I can break down the math for you on each one if you want but the math is obvious honestly
Also, I broke down and decided I needed some wine.
I am... Sorry.
I have been trying not to comment on your dad for fear of it being seen as a game thing to convince you
But seriously, if you need to replace out or ask for an extension or... Whatever
Just do it. It is more important you find time to grieve and rest than to win this game.
Okay?
I don’t believe you’re actually doing any math and also, you’re proposing that scenario so...Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:52 pmIf we lynch a townie, townies lose in all worlds. 0/3Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:49 pmWhat are the odds if we lynch town?Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:46 pm Lynch scum wins 2/3 times.
Lynch third party wins 1/3 times.
No lynch wins 4/9 times (1.33/3)
Lynching scum is mathematically correct