The Syndicate

112 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:42 pmwait is it lylo?

I really hope we aren't in a timeline where it is.

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:38 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:38 pm Delta ISO would be another 4 page effort. I'm good for now.

NEXT

boooo
its 90% shitposting anyway its not that hard

No... Too many braincells. Would rather call Delta friend and take nap.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:45 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:38 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:38 pm Delta ISO would be another 4 page effort. I'm good for now.

NEXT

boooo
its 90% shitposting anyway its not that hard

No... Too many braincells. Would rather call Delta friend and take nap.

you know what
good plan

@112 if you could @ me when you have some reads that'd be helpful as I may miss them as I go through ISOs.

Have a slight suspicion that you've subbed into an annoyed wolf slot just based on data from this cycle and how the game pre-rerand was going.

can you also @ me
I wont miss them but I'll be back in a bit & it gives me something to look into once I'm back

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:48 pm can you also @ me
I wont miss them but I'll be back in a bit & it gives me something to look into once I'm back

Damn, I feel called out.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:47 pm @112 if you could @ me when you have some reads that'd be helpful as I may miss them as I go through ISOs.

Have a slight suspicion that you've subbed into an annoyed wolf slot just based on data from this cycle and how the game pre-rerand was going.

Sure thing. I'll post a list once I'm caught up.

And no, Zenon was town; not to talk about subs but I imagine she is just super busy.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:51 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:48 pm can you also @ me
I wont miss them but I'll be back in a bit & it gives me something to look into once I'm back

Damn, I feel called out.

sorry wilgy

ISO w/Notes

Esooa:
453 - Tiptoes around the Xan suspicion
467 - Belzy T with waffles
468 - Accuses Delta of having TMI
469 - Falcon T
585 - Epi, Belzy, Xan town
702 - Seanzie T for back and forth with Xan on Esooa's alignment
704 - Delta/Xan T/T
709 - Xan ? wolf? more waffles
764 - Votes Zenon
766 - Votes Epi
770 - Belzy supposed bus on Xan
778 - votes Tutuu/Zenon? Not Zenon
788 - votes Wilgy
800 - Belzy T
923 - Votes Tutuu

d2
936 - Delta W
947 - Explains the vote jumping EoD


thinks:
Esooa's ISO is weird. There's alot of waffling around the alignment of Xan and Belzy, WHILE at the same time being able to town call Epi, Falcon and Seanzie (which was the only one that had a reason for.)
This makes me think that they were waffley on those who would attract eyes, pocketing the lower posters and had TMI on townies that were being pocketed (esp with Seanzie being the only explained tr).

HOWEVER EoD would be weird for a wolf, as Xan meant there was no stake in their yeet. No need for the EoD tomfoolery unless it was strictly to either set up some distance/pockets for the future.

So the idea is I can see a W with TMI on the thread D1 while at the same time I can see a T scrambling to deal with what was perceived as a 0 resistance yeet.

Current brain juice:
Falc
Belz

Epi

Esooa

Tutuu

There's a lot of fluff within the first few pages of the thread but I agree with your early falcon sus @DrWilgy

Reading back, falc looks like he has a lot of trouble fitting in early, and you can sort of tell he was around the thread but not speaking much. He wrote the first post in the game but can't keep pace with it.

Also, Delta looks highly town based on his early posts/interactions.

btw i would've eliminated xan too so nobody should feel bad

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:36 pm ISO w/Notes

Belzy:
d1
418 - disapproves of Xan's response to Falcon
420 - shouts wolf at Xan without real interaction
425 - Calls Xan wolf for what was a joke about Zenon
452 - Theorizes a Xan/Sean team
516 - shouts wolf at Zenon
552 - Theorizes a Xan/Epi team
630/633 - Finds Tutuu's actions wolfy
635 - Theorizes a Xan/Tutuu team
741 - Tutuu wolf because reads are not developing in spite of presence
843 - Evaluates Wilg

d2
911 - Zenon wolf call
912 - Tutuu eod1 towny
995 - lynch order list

Belzy's most likely town. I do think that the suspicion on Xan was not iterated as much as I'd like to be comfortable saying it came from a town, BUT the work Belzy did looking to alternate players to either vote or align with the Xan read seems like it's coming from a towny place.

I am curious about the current Tutuu read as Tutuu was called towny in 912, but was put 2nd to the top of the yeetables in 995.

Tutuu's whole d1 was scummy, except eod1, however d2 tutuu is once again scummy. Maybe tutuu's eod1 is also more scummy than I thought, but overall-y either way a very scummy player.

112 looks scummy too. Very agenda-y.

Belzy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 3:22 pm 112 looks scummy too. Very agenda-y.

Wrong.

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:40 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:36 pm ISO w/Notes

Spoiler: show

Belzy:
d1
418 - disapproves of Xan's response to Falcon
420 - shouts wolf at Xan without real interaction
425 - Calls Xan wolf for what was a joke about Zenon
452 - Theorizes a Xan/Sean team
516 - shouts wolf at Zenon
552 - Theorizes a Xan/Epi team
630/633 - Finds Tutuu's actions wolfy
635 - Theorizes a Xan/Tutuu team
741 - Tutuu wolf because reads are not developing in spite of presence
843 - Evaluates Wilg

d2
911 - Zenon wolf call
912 - Tutuu eod1 towny
995 - lynch order list

Belzy's most likely town. I do think that the suspicion on Xan was not iterated as much as I'd like to be comfortable saying it came from a town, BUT the work Belzy did looking to alternate players to either vote or align with the Xan read seems like it's coming from a towny place.

I am curious about the current Tutuu read as Tutuu was called towny in 912, but was put 2nd to the top of the yeetables in 995.

part of why tutuu was called towny by belzy was due to their eod iirc?
wondering what you think of this since im kinda iffy on tutuu's eod myself looking back
not a full iso to do its just a few quotes

Could you elaborate on tutuu's eod1?

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:13 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 12:31 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 10:48 am

Belzy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 10:26 am

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 9:38 am

Belzy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:40 am

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:05 am @Belzy why zenon here?

Once Xan's lynch was set in stones, she moved her vote from Xan to Wilg without explanation, as well not engaging with the thread eod1. She prolly thinks Xan's lynched, I move elsewhere, and stay quiet. Most of d1 her vote was parked on Xan, which makes it all very fishy. Also, why not Zenon here?

oh yikes, i didnt pay too much attention to voting shifts tbh

plus i wont lie i did not do my homework overnight T_T but tyty

If someone like Zenon looka similar as any AI. You gotta take a look at voting patterns and eod's.

yeah I get you
ill look into it in a bit and give my own thoughts since theres a few who have talked about zenon here

I am not the only one who felt wary of Zenon d1, and sometimes a gut can sense something the eyes cannot see yet. I look forward to your thoughts; how you would see Zenon's play so far.

aye aye captain o7
though im gonna delay this slightly and let 112 post a little
speaking of, hello hello friend o/
could you give me a rundown of how you play as town and wolf? even if just a sentence or two

It depends on many factors how I play. You better ask Seanzie or Zenon. They played with me before.

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:23 pm my brain is currently structured at like:

belzy
drwilgy
esooa

epignosis
falcon
tedxtr

tutuu
112

with tutuu/112 being more yellowish/hazy than actual scumreads, struggling to find something that feels right to me right now. those lower down are more 'i want to hear more from them' than 'raaah wolf'. same for the tier above them. though ill speak to anyone really i feel like ive stumbled into today with no real gameplan.
i can explain any of these if anyone is interested?

also. i realise ive managed to have a completely alphabetical reads list. nice.

Eso
Epi

Almost...

Wilg, Falcon and 112 have also played with me before.

i think 112 looks ok

im looking at delta + .... i dunno. falcon? eso? wilgy?

Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:16 pm

Xanjori wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:14 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:13 pm

Xanjori wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:12 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:02 pm

Xanjori wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 3:12 pm Better question, fuck delta's exercise.

People tell me why you're low posting. What has changed between the first rand and this.

Why ask an entire thread this?

Why not just answer the question?

Lol. You said: EXCEPT BELZY

Ok. Why are you posting more this time around? Whats changed for you?

Everything. And I already explained. Zenon quoted it and said it's good / only answer she'd accept from me.

I don't like this from Belzy. Putting emphasis on what Zenon said about the explanation is actually just random--adds nothing to the conversation except an appeal to what a third party said about it.

ted had an interesting post where he said there's a possibility of tutuu and belzy being teammates, which i felt deserved reiteration. i'm not sure w!ted makes the post because it was an idea i was independently floating around my head by the time i read it.

112 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 5:02 pm ted had an interesting post where he said there's a possibility of tutuu and belzy being teammates, which i felt deserved reiteration. i'm not sure w!ted makes the post because it was an idea i was independently floating around my head by the time i read it.

wolfmates*

Belzy seems town just off not getting a role pm

But maybe I should consider again if they can be a wolf

Yeah not really wanting to vote Delta

epi looks like he had a lot of trouble subbing in; he's been in the game for at least a few pages at my current point of reading and has said nothing tangible about the game. .gif responses and one-liners, nothing really of note. i'm not sure i'd scumread him yet but the difficulty entering the thread definitely feels +wolf.

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 5:18 pm Yeah not really wanting to vote Delta

i'm 95% confident Delta is a villager.

Belzy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 3:22 pm 112 looks scummy too. Very agenda-y.

Nah, I'm TR 112 right now.

Belzy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 3:29 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:40 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:36 pm ISO w/Notes

Spoiler: show

Belzy:
d1
418 - disapproves of Xan's response to Falcon
420 - shouts wolf at Xan without real interaction
425 - Calls Xan wolf for what was a joke about Zenon
452 - Theorizes a Xan/Sean team
516 - shouts wolf at Zenon
552 - Theorizes a Xan/Epi team
630/633 - Finds Tutuu's actions wolfy
635 - Theorizes a Xan/Tutuu team
741 - Tutuu wolf because reads are not developing in spite of presence
843 - Evaluates Wilg

d2
911 - Zenon wolf call
912 - Tutuu eod1 towny
995 - lynch order list

Belzy's most likely town. I do think that the suspicion on Xan was not iterated as much as I'd like to be comfortable saying it came from a town, BUT the work Belzy did looking to alternate players to either vote or align with the Xan read seems like it's coming from a towny place.

I am curious about the current Tutuu read as Tutuu was called towny in 912, but was put 2nd to the top of the yeetables in 995.

part of why tutuu was called towny by belzy was due to their eod iirc?
wondering what you think of this since im kinda iffy on tutuu's eod myself looking back
not a full iso to do its just a few quotes

Could you elaborate on tutuu's eod1?

i did a few posts after, unless you want me to talk about it more?

Belzy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 3:31 pm

Spoiler: show

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:13 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 12:31 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 10:48 am

Belzy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 10:26 am

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 9:38 am

Belzy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:40 am

Once Xan's lynch was set in stones, she moved her vote from Xan to Wilg without explanation, as well not engaging with the thread eod1. She prolly thinks Xan's lynched, I move elsewhere, and stay quiet. Most of d1 her vote was parked on Xan, which makes it all very fishy. Also, why not Zenon here?

oh yikes, i didnt pay too much attention to voting shifts tbh

plus i wont lie i did not do my homework overnight T_T but tyty

If someone like Zenon looka similar as any AI. You gotta take a look at voting patterns and eod's.

yeah I get you
ill look into it in a bit and give my own thoughts since theres a few who have talked about zenon here

I am not the only one who felt wary of Zenon d1, and sometimes a gut can sense something the eyes cannot see yet. I look forward to your thoughts; how you would see Zenon's play so far.

aye aye captain o7
though im gonna delay this slightly and let 112 post a little
speaking of, hello hello friend o/
could you give me a rundown of how you play as town and wolf? even if just a sentence or two

It depends on many factors how I play. You better ask Seanzie or Zenon. They played with me before.

this question was meant for 112 but i shouldve been more clear

also
smh references for gameplay

Yeah Delta is definitely town based on Xanjori dynamic

@112 sorry if I missed it
which would be ironic given my last message but weh
did you post your current reads so far? or are you still catching up?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:25 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:14 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 10:04 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:38 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:36 pm Yeah, I feel pretty lost right now not gonna lie. Someone tell me what to believe. Give me reads I can sheep.

This is not the Seanzie I saw last outing.

And? Do you have any conclusions to draw, or are you doing that politician thing again?

You're mafia. That's my conclusion.

I don't know what politician thing you're talking about or why you say "again."

When you're a wolf, you do this thing where you speak in a way that can be interpreted by the audience in whatever way the audience wants to interpret it, instead of giving clear content. It reminds me of how some politicians speak.

This person died

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 5:24 pm @112 sorry if I missed it
which would be ironic given my last message but weh
did you post your current reads so far? or are you still catching up?

fuck thats still not a mention
@112 womp

Tutuu hasn't posted a single thing I agree with I think

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 5:28 pm Tutuu hasn't posted a single thing I agree with I think

That's kinda towny IME

Belzy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 3:33 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:23 pm my brain is currently structured at like:

belzy
drwilgy
esooa

epignosis
falcon
tedxtr

tutuu
112

with tutuu/112 being more yellowish/hazy than actual scumreads, struggling to find something that feels right to me right now. those lower down are more 'i want to hear more from them' than 'raaah wolf'. same for the tier above them. though ill speak to anyone really i feel like ive stumbled into today with no real gameplan.
i can explain any of these if anyone is interested?

also. i realise ive managed to have a completely alphabetical reads list. nice.

Eso
Epi

Almost...

oh my god wait i hate it here FUCK

112 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 4:50 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:16 pm

Xanjori wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:14 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:13 pm

Xanjori wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:12 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:02 pm

Xanjori wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 3:12 pm Better question, fuck delta's exercise.

People tell me why you're low posting. What has changed between the first rand and this.

Why ask an entire thread this?

Why not just answer the question?

Lol. You said: EXCEPT BELZY

Ok. Why are you posting more this time around? Whats changed for you?

Everything. And I already explained. Zenon quoted it and said it's good / only answer she'd accept from me.

I don't like this from Belzy. Putting emphasis on what Zenon said about the explanation is actually just random--adds nothing to the conversation except an appeal to what a third party said about it.

You are literally tunneling me, and totally being aware of it. Agenda. Wolf.

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 5:34 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 3:33 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:23 pm my brain is currently structured at like:

belzy
drwilgy
esooa

epignosis
falcon
tedxtr

tutuu
112

with tutuu/112 being more yellowish/hazy than actual scumreads, struggling to find something that feels right to me right now. those lower down are more 'i want to hear more from them' than 'raaah wolf'. same for the tier above them. though ill speak to anyone really i feel like ive stumbled into today with no real gameplan.
i can explain any of these if anyone is interested?

also. i realise ive managed to have a completely alphabetical reads list. nice.

Eso
Epi

Almost...

oh my god wait i hate it here FUCK

Perhaps your most painful moment of the game.

Belzy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 5:38 pm

Spoiler: show

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 5:34 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 3:33 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:23 pm my brain is currently structured at like:

belzy
drwilgy
esooa

epignosis
falcon
tedxtr

tutuu
112

with tutuu/112 being more yellowish/hazy than actual scumreads, struggling to find something that feels right to me right now. those lower down are more 'i want to hear more from them' than 'raaah wolf'. same for the tier above them. though ill speak to anyone really i feel like ive stumbled into today with no real gameplan.
i can explain any of these if anyone is interested?

also. i realise ive managed to have a completely alphabetical reads list. nice.

Eso
Epi

Almost...

oh my god wait i hate it here FUCK

Perhaps your most painful moment of the game.

oh no theres been some painful moments
but its up there

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 5:28 pm Tutuu hasn't posted a single thing I agree with I think

Yup. Same. That's both d1 and d2.

112 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 3:15 pm There's a lot of fluff within the first few pages of the thread but I agree with your early falcon sus @DrWilgy

Reading back, falc looks like he has a lot of trouble fitting in early, and you can sort of tell he was around the thread but not speaking much. He wrote the first post in the game but can't keep pace with it.

Also, Delta looks highly town based on his early posts/interactions.

112 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 3:20 pm btw i would've eliminated xan too so nobody should feel bad

i really
really dislike this chain of messages
trying to play down the yeet.
like yah xan had it coming. fuck around and find out.
but playing down the vote your slot pivoted off of & was being suspected for pivoting off of
feels bad
this isnt making sense word wise someone please get what i mean

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 5:24 pm @112 sorry if I missed it
which would be ironic given my last message but weh
did you post your current reads so far? or are you still catching up?

i'm still catching up but have shared some thoughts

i'll probably post a full list this evening pst

like zenon:
pivoted off xan to wilgy last second
gets pushed for the weird movement
112 comes in
'yeah i wouldve voted xan too dont feel bad for it'
eek?

[VOTE: tutuu] aubergine
@tutuu

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 5:42 pm like zenon:
pivoted off xan to wilgy last second
gets pushed for the weird movement
112 comes in
'yeah i wouldve voted xan too dont feel bad for it'
eek?

reading the first bunch of pages in the game there's not a lot to like xan for

112 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 5:44 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 5:42 pm like zenon:
pivoted off xan to wilgy last second
gets pushed for the weird movement
112 comes in
'yeah i wouldve voted xan too dont feel bad for it'
eek?

reading the first bunch of pages in the game there's not a lot to like xan for

no i agree with you
my issue lies with the fact that one of the main pushes on your slot was the fact they pivoted off of xan last second
so the fact you come in reaffirming that you wouldve voted him is a little worrying to me

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:25 pm I gotta admit belzy is pretty surface level towny but i still feel like i should be keeping my vote. Maybe being towny or scummy means nothing in terms of alignments if u think bout it philosophically. Is mafia nothing but a game of pure chance that we delude ourselves into thinking we can skilfully have control over to satisfy our own egos?

this post reads as hedge that turned into funposting because it was too hedge at first