The Syndicate

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:53 pm Reading HK's ISO, it reads strongly like he had a red check on Deli, but I can't decipher any meaning from his throwaway line on Marmot

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:56 pm okay no this makes sense

if he tracked Deli to Wiml and there was no kill, then his belief of me calling Esooa a liar parses (he even later says if he were the real doctor, he wouldn't directly CC the claim, softing that he thinks I'm CCing), and it explains his IMMEDIATE vote for Deli when Deli claims they JK'd Mac instead of Wiml if HK actually saw Deli go to Wiml

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:43 pm I think deli is the mafia in that difference check, hk vote and calling out could be cause they tracked and didn't see them go anywhere n1, coupled with hk nk, I think points towards deli

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:04 pm Can we agree Esooa is likely town here?

If yes, then I think it may be more optimal for us to always lynch Deli here. If Deli flips jailkeeper then we almost always lynch NANOOK the next day. If Deli flips mafia then we can solve Marmot/me the next day.

Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:20 pm Fwiw also, if Esooa was a wolf then Mac would probably be the N1K.

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:22 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:20 pm Fwiw also, if Esooa was a wolf then Mac would probably be the N1K.

aka Deli's JK target N1?

Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:14 pm I think Deli probably dies today but let's not have a bad early hammer?

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:17 pm Still hesitate because Nanook could be scum.
Thus if Deli flips Town I’m omega voting Nanook into a death tunnel tomorrow.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:09 pm Heh

So, scum are pretty fucked

I'm the parity cop i have a difference check between Marmot and creature

HK's flip means there's also a difference check between esooa and deli


Dab

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:31 pm pinged by marmot and deli both entering thread with an "oh! what a cool turn of events!" entrance

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:31 pm pinged by marmot and deli both entering thread with an "oh! what a cool turn of events!" entrance

Deli wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:33 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:09 pm Heh

So, scum are pretty fucked

I'm the parity cop i have a difference check between Marmot and creature

HK's flip means there's also a difference check between esooa and deli


Dab

I believe Esooa, you however, I don't believe. If true, it makes sense the way you've played it but I have a really hard time believing Esooa claims with no pressure there

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:36 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:31 pm pinged by marmot and deli both entering thread with an "oh! what a cool turn of events!" entrance

That's what I felt too.

Deli wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:36 pm I JK'd Wiml fwiw, I figured they were worried about him and it would keep him safe from the NK and that Esooa probably doctors herself. not really sure how Esooa plays doctor there but it was my best guess. Didn't think I'd survive given the gamestate

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:36 pm I'm confused about how the difference is between me/deli and marmot/creature

what are your NAs?

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:38 pm

Deli wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:36 pm I JK'd Wiml fwiw, I figured they were worried about him and it would keep him safe from the NK and that Esooa probably doctors herself. not really sure how Esooa plays doctor there but it was my best guess. Didn't think I'd survive given the gamestate

this does not pass the basic logic sniff test

Deli wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:37 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:36 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:31 pm pinged by marmot and deli both entering thread with an "oh! what a cool turn of events!" entrance

That's what I felt too.

"oh shit I'm alive" yeah a fucking joyous entry, wtaf is going on.

Nanook/Syn/Creature probably the wolf team, possibly Nanook/Mac/? would make sense since we're getting railroaded.

Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:13 pm I was starting to tinfoil Deli pre-claim. Their claim makes sense from a wolf perspective to self pres and to discredit me I suppose? Hk's death points to Deli being a wolf too.

I am shocked if Esooa is wolfing tbh.

After my initial reaction that he wouldn't lie, I need to assess the merits of a Nook fake claim here (he's a PoE slot and getting two miselims before dying is probably a good trade). But if Nook is a wolf candidate we never chop him today so he can get another peek.

Sorry if ly thoughts are scattered, I'm really exhausted right now and will try to contribute better shortly.

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:42 pm How many games have you played with Mac, Deli?

Deli wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:45 pmWho is Seth?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:41 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:13 pm I was starting to tinfoil Deli pre-claim. Their claim makes sense from a wolf perspective to self pres and to discredit me I suppose? Hk's death points to Deli being a wolf too.

I am shocked if Esooa is wolfing tbh.

After my initial reaction that he wouldn't lie, I need to assess the merits of a Nook fake claim here (he's a PoE slot and getting two miselims before dying is probably a good trade). But if Nook is a wolf candidate we never chop him today so he can get another peek.

Sorry if ly thoughts are scattered, I'm really exhausted right now and will try to contribute better shortly.

I'm not getting another peek lol I always die tonight

Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:48 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:41 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:13 pm I was starting to tinfoil Deli pre-claim. Their claim makes sense from a wolf perspective to self pres and to discredit me I suppose? Hk's death points to Deli being a wolf too.

I am shocked if Esooa is wolfing tbh.

After my initial reaction that he wouldn't lie, I need to assess the merits of a Nook fake claim here (he's a PoE slot and getting two miselims before dying is probably a good trade). But if Nook is a wolf candidate we never chop him today so he can get another peek.

Sorry if ly thoughts are scattered, I'm really exhausted right now and will try to contribute better shortly.

I'm not getting another peek lol I always die tonight

Yeah I didn't realise about the strongman.

There are ways we can avoid you dying tonight if town (chopping in Marm/Creature/other PoE slot and having the wolves possibly not take the risk in a direct cc battle) but I'm not convinced that's the play.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:44 pm Seth possible tmi, likely works as third partner in all worlds imo

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:50 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:44 pm Seth possible tmi, likely works as third partner in all worlds imo

interesting

I asked Deli how many games they've played with Mac because they've pushed him hard and now put him as your partner if we, town, are being railroaded, implying excellent wolf manipulation play, and specifically slotting in Mac for that

when they said no games, I immediately thought "the team is deli/marmot/gavial"

Deli wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:55 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:50 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:44 pm Seth possible tmi, likely works as third partner in all worlds imo

interesting

I asked Deli how many games they've played with Mac because they've pushed him hard and now put him as your partner if we, town, are being railroaded, implying excellent wolf manipulation play, and specifically slotting in Mac for that

when they said no games, I immediately thought "the team is deli/marmot/gavial"

I've pushed mac hard because he is wolfy af, but when someone's avatar is "mafia god" and everyone who has played with them is afraid to push them, yeah I feel like that's a person who could open wolf and get away with it

It isn't me, and I'm fairly certain Marmot is village. You saying gavial makes me clear them.

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:38 pm also rip on falcon being town. I was pretty surprised

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:50 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:44 pm Seth possible tmi, likely works as third partner in all worlds imo

interesting

I asked Deli how many games they've played with Mac because they've pushed him hard and now put him as your partner if we, town, are being railroaded, implying excellent wolf manipulation play, and specifically slotting in Mac for that

when they said no games, I immediately thought "the team is deli/marmot/gavial"

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 3:15 pm Sorry three people.

Note to self for later. Creature, Falcon, Hollowkatt are town.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:05 pm Also I am pretty sure I am the best Falcon reader on Earth so you should probably sheep that read.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 11:04 am Deli is town, move your votes

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:23 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:25 pm Pretty confident townreads

hollowkatt
Esooa
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Moderately confident townreads

falcon45ca
Syn

Not sure, kinda towny maybe

Creature
Gavial
Kami

Kinda scummy but I have a sense I might be reading these people wrong

Marmot
Deli

Just wolfy

Wiml
ignoramus

This is midway through Day 1, but falcon and Syn don't belong this high up.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:24 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:27 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:24 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Why VT/Maf over PR/Maf?

Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:28 pm If Nanook is the fake one, Marmot/Creature could both be Town.