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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:03 pm
by Gavial
falcon45ca wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:02 am
Seanzie wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:10 am
Dolby wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 8:28 pm Also don't see why a claim swap would happen?

If one goes down the other would go down
Claimswaps can happen late game when the remaining mafia members hope to win with both people involved alive.

Granted, I do concede that it is probably not super likely to happen.
What's not super likely? That Maf use claim swaps late game, or that Maf have multiple members alive late game?


Sean is in my sus pile
I can sheep you!

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:08 pm
by LinearPoint
As far as setup outing wolves go it's more in the fact that their Mafia unique abilities really outs them.
For example we can really really easily find Spy, Medic, and Sniper scum since their Mafia abilities actively out themselves.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:08 pm
by sabie12
falcon45ca wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:42 pm It's more just a folksy wisdom comment, you're right. Shoveling snow in a blizzard is better than doing it all afterward the storm is done.
I had to fix my car in a blizzard today so now I'm an ice cube but it's fixed for now at least.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:10 pm
by Seanzie
Guillotine wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:12 pm Sig is hardcore obvious scum and im tunneling to their slow and painful death.
I don't know what parallel world I have entered, but I'm like 90% to locking Guillo town on D0 (this is hyperbole, but I do townread Guillo).

I agree on Sig. >rand!wolf for sure.

That't three in the team. Who is the last?

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:11 pm
by Dolby
Gavial wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:02 pm
Dolby wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:59 pm It cool if I talk about what abilities I think certain roles should use tonight or nah
Go for it!
Medic shouldn't roleblock tonight

I personally am leaning towards Soldier not doing roleblock boost and using one of the other two abilities, but also should check if it can be combined with engineer

I'm debating the potential confirmatory power of pyro's redirection, haven't come to a strong take on that yet

I think that demo should use sticky launcher but this comes down mainly to I don't like roleblocking N0

leaning towards scout should fast run but idk

Engineers should always be building sentrys tonight. This could lead to something crumbling first later on but I think it's best to have a safe something established

yeah that's it

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:15 pm
by falcon45ca
sabie12 wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:08 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:42 pm It's more just a folksy wisdom comment, you're right. Shoveling snow in a blizzard is better than doing it all afterward the storm is done.
I had to fix my car in a blizzard today so now I'm an ice cube but it's fixed for now at least.
Daaaaamn. What was the issue?

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:16 pm
by falcon45ca
Gavial wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:03 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:02 am
Seanzie wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:10 am
Dolby wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 8:28 pm Also don't see why a claim swap would happen?

If one goes down the other would go down
Claimswaps can happen late game when the remaining mafia members hope to win with both people involved alive.

Granted, I do concede that it is probably not super likely to happen.
What's not super likely? That Maf use claim swaps late game, or that Maf have multiple members alive late game?


Sean is in my sus pile
I can sheep you!
:shrug2: It's a free country

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:17 pm
by LinearPoint
I'm curious what others thing about possibly having Demoman just use their eyelander today to say what color Demoman they so that Mafia Demoman lose the ability to use their eyelander.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:17 pm
by sabie12
falcon45ca wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:15 pm
sabie12 wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:08 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:42 pm It's more just a folksy wisdom comment, you're right. Shoveling snow in a blizzard is better than doing it all afterward the storm is done.
I had to fix my car in a blizzard today so now I'm an ice cube but it's fixed for now at least.
Daaaaamn. What was the issue?
Thought it needed a battery or had a leak but come to find out it was a belt that needed replacing, which I guess was a less expensive problem to have.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:19 pm
by LinearPoint
I don't think the eyelander daypost is really useful for Town, but since the Mafia Demoman can trade the daypost for an unstoppable kill it might be better to just prevent the Mafia from being able to use that else out the fact they have a Demoman.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:20 pm
by LinearPoint
Actually rereading that it might not be a 1-shto ability like I thought it was.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:22 pm
by Dolby
LinearPoint wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:20 pm Actually rereading that it might not be a 1-shto ability like I thought it was.
it does not appear to be one shot yeah

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:26 pm
by LinearPoint
Honestly don't even know why I thought it was since I don't think anything is.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:34 pm
by Dolby
LinearPoint wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:26 pm Honestly don't even know why I thought it was since I don't think anything is.
Spy's sapper is

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:02 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:06 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
So the poll is a 3-way tie between Pyro, Scout and Demoman.

Well, the Pyro is a very secretive individual so they will be hard to reach. And unfortunately, the Demoman drank too much and is currently asleep on the couch. But the Scout will always be happy to talk about himself!

Hailing from some really hardcore (according to him) place in USA, Mr. Jeremy, the Scout.





Day 1 Begins!

You have 48 hours to kill someone.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:15 pm
by Seanzie
[VOTE: Sig] aubergine

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:28 pm
by Dyslexicon
Alright!

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:53 pm
by falcon45ca
Seanzie wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:15 pm [VOTE: Sig] aubergine
Why not Mac?

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:57 pm
by Seanzie
falcon45ca wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:53 pm
Seanzie wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:15 pm [VOTE: Sig] aubergine
Why not Mac?
Because my read on Mac is much weaker than my read on Sig.

Why are you curious about "why not Mac", rather than Linearpoint?

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:45 pm
by falcon45ca
Seanzie wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:57 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:53 pm
Seanzie wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:15 pm [VOTE: Sig] aubergine
Why not Mac?
Because my read on Mac is much weaker than my read on Sig.

Why are you curious about "why not Mac", rather than Linearpoint?
I feel you've put more emphasis on Mac scum world than LP

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:47 pm
by falcon45ca
And then I just read your LP post and realize I'm wrong, and that it's an LP scum world you've put more emphasis on.



I am le' dumb

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:48 pm
by Dyslexicon
Sean and Falcon, you should start a town core. You’re both town. I’m rooting for you!

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:55 pm
by Lime Coke
Guys...Gavial is pinging me again...make him stop...

Particularly by doing this.

[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:01 pm
by falcon45ca
Lime Coke wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:55 pm Guys...Gavial is pinging me again...make him stop...

Particularly by doing this.

[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine
Kind of a soft opening from him, eh? Given our last game together, I expect that from him as Maf, not Town

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:02 pm
by Lime Coke
falcon45ca wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:01 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:55 pm Guys...Gavial is pinging me again...make him stop...

Particularly by doing this.

[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine
Kind of a soft opening from him, eh? Given our last game together, I expect that from him as Maf, not Town
Me or Gavial?

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:05 pm
by Seanzie
Dyslexicon wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:48 pm Sean and Falcon, you should start a town core. You’re both town. I’m rooting for you!
Should you be in this budding towncore?

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:06 pm
by falcon45ca
Lime Coke wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:02 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:01 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:55 pm Guys...Gavial is pinging me again...make him stop...

Particularly by doing this.

[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine
Kind of a soft opening from him, eh? Given our last game together, I expect that from him as Maf, not Town
Me or Gavial?
Gav

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:07 pm
by Lime Coke
Seanzie wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:05 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:48 pm Sean and Falcon, you should start a town core. You’re both town. I’m rooting for you!
Should you be in this budding towncore?
Nah I think they're fine watching your core from the outside, waving at you, ready to give you emotional support.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:09 pm
by Lime Coke
falcon45ca wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:06 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:02 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:01 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:55 pm Guys...Gavial is pinging me again...make him stop...

Particularly by doing this.

[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine
Kind of a soft opening from him, eh? Given our last game together, I expect that from him as Maf, not Town
Me or Gavial?
Gav
Gotcha.

My thing was that he quoted your "RNG numbers" post and took it as if they were your legitimate scumreads, plus as scum he will pull a "catch up, quote posts and make a comment about the post" thing.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:21 pm
by Lime Coke
Kinda...waiting for more people to post and get going here...

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:07 pm
by Guillotine
Dyslexicon wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:48 pm Sean and Falcon, you should start a town core. You’re both town. I’m rooting for you!
The fuck is this? Why do you post like you shouldnt be in the towncore of those you townread?

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:12 pm
by Guillotine
By tone and meta i think the following are town

Dolby
Gavial
Falcon

Mixed feelings on Seanzie

Scum

Sig
Dyslexicon

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:13 pm
by Guillotine
Lime Coke i townlean based on meta and tone too

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:14 pm
by Guillotine
[VOTE: Sig] aubergine

Making it official

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:17 pm
by Guillotine
Lime Coke wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:07 pm
Seanzie wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:05 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:48 pm Sean and Falcon, you should start a town core. You’re both town. I’m rooting for you!
Should you be in this budding towncore?
Nah I think they're fine watching your core from the outside, waving at you, ready to give you emotional support.
So you townread all three?

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 0]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:19 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
LinearPoint wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:08 pm As far as setup outing wolves go it's more in the fact that their Mafia unique abilities really outs them.
For example we can really really easily find Spy, Medic, and Sniper scum since their Mafia abilities actively out themselves.
Wondering if it’s worth setting up confirmation traps, I think it doesn’t really add up? But it might. Working on finding some that work well

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:27 pm
by Dyslexicon
Dyslexicon wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:48 pm Sean and Falcon, you should start a town core. You’re both town. I’m rooting for you!
Lime and Tony should join.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:32 pm
by sig
Seanzie wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:57 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:53 pm
Seanzie wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:15 pm [VOTE: Sig] aubergine
Why not Mac?
Because my read on Mac is much weaker than my read on Sig.

Why are you curious about "why not Mac", rather than Linearpoint?
"read on sig"

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:33 pm
by sig
Dyslexicon wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:48 pm Sean and Falcon, you should start a town core. You’re both town. I’m rooting for you!
Not a fan of this. Starting towncores literally seconds into the game actually starting is a sure fire way to get a mafia member in the towncore and nuke entire game.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:34 pm
by Dyslexicon
Guillotine wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:07 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:48 pm Sean and Falcon, you should start a town core. You’re both town. I’m rooting for you!
The fuck is this? Why do you post like you shouldnt be in the towncore of those you townread?
I’m not planning to be very active at the start of this.

Thread is quiet and I want the game to have a good start though.

Also, think I’ll exchange my Falcon for Guillo right now.

Sean is town. I know him, this be town.
Tony is town cause I can tell.
Guillo is probably town and Sean thinks so too so that’s good. Work together \o/
Lime is town because he’s cute and also real reasons.

^I think this is a nice town core to start with.
(Dis)agreements?

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:35 pm
by sig
I"m gonna go ahead throw a vote onto gullitone for the time being. We haven't played alot, but we've played enough they should know i'm an easy D1 mislynch, gave some very weak reasoning, and did just not enough set up to throw on a vote and not move it.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:37 pm
by Dyslexicon
sig wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:33 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:48 pm Sean and Falcon, you should start a town core. You’re both town. I’m rooting for you!
Not a fan of this. Starting towncores literally seconds into the game actually starting is a sure fire way to get a mafia member in the towncore and nuke entire game.
Some people are easy to read, I’m confident in my ability to do so, and I want this game to have some sort of strong town foundations, and not just a bunch of vigilantes (which is a danger, looking at the player list).

So is it towny or scummy of me, ref “not a fan”?

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:38 pm
by sig
Dyslexicon wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:34 pm
Guillotine wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:07 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:48 pm Sean and Falcon, you should start a town core. You’re both town. I’m rooting for you!
The fuck is this? Why do you post like you shouldnt be in the towncore of those you townread?
I’m not planning to be very active at the start of this.

Thread is quiet and I want the game to have a good start though.

Also, think I’ll exchange my Falcon for Guillo right now.

Sean is town. I know him, this be town.
Tony is town cause I can tell.
Guillo is probably town and Sean thinks so too so that’s good. Work together \o/
Lime is town because he’s cute and also real reasons.

^I think this is a nice town core to start with.
(Dis)agreements?

Does sean usually come out so aggressive in setting out reads? Ik i've played with him before but can't recall much.

Can"t agree on Lime, need some pics first or are we saying like the vibe/profile pic is cute? I could see vibe, but not profile pic. i mean don't get me wrong it isn't bad just not cute ya feel me?

Also as i just previously mentioned disagree re town core this soon, but as long as ppl don't blindly sheep and will move players out of town core, it isn't the end of the world to have one.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:39 pm
by sig
Dyslexicon wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:37 pm
sig wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:33 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:48 pm Sean and Falcon, you should start a town core. You’re both town. I’m rooting for you!
Not a fan of this. Starting towncores literally seconds into the game actually starting is a sure fire way to get a mafia member in the towncore and nuke entire game.
Some people are easy to read, I’m confident in my ability to do so, and I want this game to have some sort of strong town foundations, and not just a bunch of vigilantes (which is a danger, looking at the player list).

So is it towny or scummy of me, ref “not a fan”?
Not towny or scummy. More of a general disagreement on creating a core so soon. I think you and other players do it regardless of alignment tbh.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:40 pm
by sig
Also, low key gonna confuse LP and LC at least a few times this game since already did it once. rip

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:41 pm
by Dyslexicon
sig wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:39 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:37 pm
sig wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:33 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:48 pm Sean and Falcon, you should start a town core. You’re both town. I’m rooting for you!
Not a fan of this. Starting towncores literally seconds into the game actually starting is a sure fire way to get a mafia member in the towncore and nuke entire game.
Some people are easy to read, I’m confident in my ability to do so, and I want this game to have some sort of strong town foundations, and not just a bunch of vigilantes (which is a danger, looking at the player list).

So is it towny or scummy of me, ref “not a fan”?
Not towny or scummy. More of a general disagreement on creating a core so soon. I think you and other players do it regardless of alignment tbh.
Fair.

Honestly, it’s more that I feel good about those players, and I want cooperation and not derailment and singular town players working on their own this game. Maybe I don’t need to worry so much though. But I like trust as a weapon.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:41 pm
by Dyslexicon
[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:44 pm
by sig
Dyslexicon wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:41 pm
sig wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:39 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:37 pm
sig wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:33 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:48 pm Sean and Falcon, you should start a town core. You’re both town. I’m rooting for you!
Not a fan of this. Starting towncores literally seconds into the game actually starting is a sure fire way to get a mafia member in the towncore and nuke entire game.
Some people are easy to read, I’m confident in my ability to do so, and I want this game to have some sort of strong town foundations, and not just a bunch of vigilantes (which is a danger, looking at the player list).

So is it towny or scummy of me, ref “not a fan”?
Not towny or scummy. More of a general disagreement on creating a core so soon. I think you and other players do it regardless of alignment tbh.
Fair.

Honestly, it’s more that I feel good about those players, and I want cooperation and not derailment and singular town players working on their own this game. Maybe I don’t need to worry so much though. But I like trust as a weapon.
I see I see,

I"ll trust you if you trust me. :srsnod:

We can run off into the woods form our own towncore, create a bigger town core, slowly but surely turn our towncore into a life style and BAM, cult leaders. It'll end with either 1. us all getting arrested 2. You poisoning everyone in our cult, or 3. me stealing all the cult money and living my best life in an undisclosed location.

Right now I'd prefer option 3, but 2 does sound promising.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:44 pm
by Dyslexicon
@falcon45ca I think you should bus Gavial. :smoky: