The Syndicate

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:21 pm Do I actually need to do something proactive about spf

what would you do? and why?

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:22 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:21 pm Do I actually need to do something proactive about spf

what would you do? and why?

Kill

Because she randed wolf

i actually kind of like her posts. why is she a wolf?

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:21 pm Do I actually need to do something proactive about spf

I kind of think she might be town

although a lot of that is that my brain is going 'SPF solving? SPF writing lots of words? writing words is villagery! that makes her a villager!' which is ... not a good read ......

ah yes putting multiy thoughts in one post is wolfy for me, it is known

dya however has multiple posts with zero thoughts

there is a cap of 100 with no lift

like

let that sink in

conserve your posts and don't judge me for trying to do so myself

thanks

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 7:07 pm

Amy wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 7:06 pm is now a good time to say that zack's opening post rubbed me the wrong way

probably just not used to him breaking kayfabe, but

in what way did it bother you?

Above: what bothered Amy
Below: "Hey Amy what bothered you?"

Doesn't look like a question actually meant to figure something out

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 7:26 pm (i actually do sort of townread amy because i think that occam's razor points to her suspicion about zack being genuine)

Just general overexplanation, she could've just said "genuine" and have been done with it.

Little things, but they're things I very distinctly see from her wolf game and not from her town game. Her writing more words than she actually means is a tell I've caught her on quickly before.

I'll be around later tonight I think, this cycle will be a bit strange for me, but knowing how I am, I'm sure I'll still run up against my post cap or something.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:33 pm ah yes putting multiy thoughts in one post is wolfy for me, it is known

dya however has multiple posts with zero thoughts

there is a cap of 100 with no lift

like

let that sink in

conserve your posts and don't judge me for trying to do so myself

thanks

I've just shared 2 thoughts, tyvm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:33 pm ah yes putting multiy thoughts in one post is wolfy for me, it is known

dya however has multiple posts with zero thoughts

there is a cap of 100 with no lift

like

let that sink in

conserve your posts and don't judge me for trying to do so myself

thanks

meh making a wallpost instead of several short posts kinda defeats the point of playing a light game in the first place imo

I haven't cared for dya's posts this game so far, but they end day phases with 100 or fewer posts all the time so I don't know why that's a big concern for you.

Arete wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:30 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:21 pm Do I actually need to do something proactive about spf

I kind of think she might be town

although a lot of that is that my brain is going 'SPF solving? SPF writing lots of words? writing words is villagery! that makes her a villager!' which is ... not a good read ......

agree with this

spf being overexplainy is like... probably nai but fine

dya thanks for defending me i guess but try not to waste five percent of your posts discussing fish emojis

the mu elite bros clique voting me for that post is probably to be expected, im probably not going to leave my wolf range given the postcap but enough people hopped on that someone is taking advantage of it

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:33 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 7:07 pm

Amy wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 7:06 pm is now a good time to say that zack's opening post rubbed me the wrong way

probably just not used to him breaking kayfabe, but

in what way did it bother you?

Above: what bothered Amy
Below: "Hey Amy what bothered you?"

Doesn't look like a question actually meant to figure something out

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 7:26 pm (i actually do sort of townread amy because i think that occam's razor points to her suspicion about zack being genuine)

Just general overexplanation, she could've just said "genuine" and have been done with it.

Little things, but they're things I very distinctly see from her wolf game and not from her town game. Her writing more words than she actually means is a tell I've caught her on quickly before.

1. "breaking kayfabe" is vague reasoning, and it was obvious that amy had more to say. i wanted her to expand on the reasoning. she did

2. that's not an overexplanation - i am actually underexplaining the read by vaguely gesturing to occam's razor without explaining what led me to that thought process

you'll townread me by the end of the day. just chill

maybe stop trying to tell me how to play a light fucking game

bronana wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:39 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:33 pm ah yes putting multiy thoughts in one post is wolfy for me, it is known

dya however has multiple posts with zero thoughts

there is a cap of 100 with no lift

like

let that sink in

conserve your posts and don't judge me for trying to do so myself

thanks

meh making a wallpost instead of several short posts kinda defeats the point of playing a light game in the first place imo

I haven't cared for dya's posts this game so far, but they end day phases with 100 or fewer posts all the time so I don't know why that's a big concern for you.

if I make a lot of short posts though I will run out and be sad

I don't do walls generally but I want to be somewhat efficient with them

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:33 pm ah yes putting multiy thoughts in one post is wolfy for me, it is known

dya however has multiple posts with zero thoughts

there is a cap of 100 with no lift

like

let that sink in

conserve your posts and don't judge me for trying to do so myself

thanks

i actually find this post wolfy - i remember that when dyachei called you out for doing something wolfy in the zelda mash, you responded in the exact same way. you deflected the main point by gesturing to dyachei and saying: "but you're scummy too!". i feel like i'm seeing double right now

also, i don't think that anyone said that you were wolfy for trying to conserve your posts, so this feels dishonest to me

(i wrote this in my last post but it disappeared into the void for some reason?)

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:43 pm you'll townread me by the end of the day. just chill

the fuck is this a threat lmao

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:49 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:43 pm you'll townread me by the end of the day. just chill

the fuck is this a threat lmao

nope, im just telling him to not get ahead of himself :P

@nutella

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:43 pmthe mu elite bros clique voting me for that post is probably to be expected, im probably not going to leave my wolf range given the postcap but enough people hopped on that someone is taking advantage of it

i'm pretty sure my vote was following something spf said. cast your aspersions elsewhere!

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:46 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:33 pm ah yes putting multiy thoughts in one post is wolfy for me, it is known

dya however has multiple posts with zero thoughts

there is a cap of 100 with no lift

like

let that sink in

conserve your posts and don't judge me for trying to do so myself

thanks

i actually find this post wolfy - i remember that when dyachei called you out for doing something wolfy in the zelda mash, you responded in the exact same way. you deflected the main point by gesturing to dyachei and saying: "but you're scummy too!". i feel like i'm seeing double right now

also, i don't think that anyone said that you were wolfy for trying to conserve your posts, so this feels dishonest to me

(i wrote this in my last post but it disappeared into the void for some reason?)

I don't suspect dya necessarily

I almost did with the number of shitposts but they improved

And ppl wolfread me tonally for that one post and I know the tone is a direct result of me conserving posts so

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:10 pm

outed wolf wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:09 pm [VOTE: nutella] aubergine

cause one of their posts was not good

since when has that made her a wolf? it's when most of her posts are bad that she's a wolf

@dyachei was this post serious?

so you don't even know why you voted me? cool

visor hasn't given a reason either

worst vibes are from him tbh

Amy wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:54 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:10 pm

outed wolf wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:09 pm [VOTE: nutella] aubergine

cause one of their posts was not good

since when has that made her a wolf? it's when most of her posts are bad that she's a wolf

@dyachei was this post serious?

yes? I didnt really think her posts were nutella wolf bad yet

@dyachei

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:56 pm

Amy wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:54 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:10 pm

outed wolf wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:09 pm [VOTE: nutella] aubergine

cause one of their posts was not good

since when has that made her a wolf? it's when most of her posts are bad that she's a wolf

@dyachei was this post serious?

yes? I didnt really think her posts were nutella wolf bad yet

it just strikes me as an odd reaction

"i wolfread one of this person's posts" "ah, but you must wolfread MORE of her posts to wolfread her"

i know you like probing people and digging into reasoning and stuff so i'm a bit concerned about you essentially swatting this read away when visor hadn't even really explained (to my recollection, anyways) what the read WAS

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:56 pm so you don't even know why you voted me? cool

visor hasn't given a reason either

worst vibes are from him tbh

what? is this directed at me? I gave a perfectly cromulent explanation when I voted. Also it's an two hours into a 48 hour d1 so lol.

is it normal for nutella to be this ... passive-aggressive?

@Gavial

outed wolf wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:01 pm @Gavial

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:44 pm maybe stop trying to tell me how to play a light fucking game

Someone tell me if dya has any kind of history taking criticism to their wolf game personally

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:54 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:46 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:33 pm ah yes putting multiy thoughts in one post is wolfy for me, it is known

dya however has multiple posts with zero thoughts

there is a cap of 100 with no lift

like

let that sink in

conserve your posts and don't judge me for trying to do so myself

thanks

i actually find this post wolfy - i remember that when dyachei called you out for doing something wolfy in the zelda mash, you responded in the exact same way. you deflected the main point by gesturing to dyachei and saying: "but you're scummy too!". i feel like i'm seeing double right now

also, i don't think that anyone said that you were wolfy for trying to conserve your posts, so this feels dishonest to me

(i wrote this in my last post but it disappeared into the void for some reason?)

I don't suspect dya necessarily

I almost did with the number of shitposts but they improved

And ppl wolfread me tonally for that one post and I know the tone is a direct result of me conserving posts so

i mean, sure

but the argument of your post is still:

"you find ME wolfy? what about this OTHER person? bet you feel stupid now, huh?"

which feels even worse in the context of you misrepresenting the reason why you were getting scumread in the first place

and your reactions to the early pressure in general feel overly accusatory and overly aggressive, like you telling dya "not to waste" their posts on fish emojis, or describing the votes on you as being from the "mu elite bros clique"

i dont fault you for preserving your posts, but something just feels off. i'll let you do your thing and see if i still feel the same way, because i dont think the pressure from me is helping you if you are town

Amy wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:59 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:56 pm

Amy wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:54 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:10 pm

outed wolf wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:09 pm [VOTE: nutella] aubergine

cause one of their posts was not good

since when has that made her a wolf? it's when most of her posts are bad that she's a wolf

@dyachei was this post serious?

yes? I didnt really think her posts were nutella wolf bad yet

it just strikes me as an odd reaction

"i wolfread one of this person's posts" "ah, but you must wolfread MORE of her posts to wolfread her"

i know you like probing people and digging into reasoning and stuff so i'm a bit concerned about you essentially swatting this read away when visor hadn't even really explained (to my recollection, anyways) what the read WAS

I asked about the read? I was hoping for elaboration from visor but that didn't happen. So it wasn't really swatting away so much as not seeing it myself and wanting more about why?

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:02 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:44 pm maybe stop trying to tell me how to play a light fucking game

Someone tell me if dya has any kind of history taking criticism to their wolf game personally

^
Dya

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:03 pm

Amy wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:59 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:56 pm

Amy wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:54 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:10 pm

outed wolf wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:09 pm [VOTE: nutella] aubergine

cause one of their posts was not good

since when has that made her a wolf? it's when most of her posts are bad that she's a wolf

@dyachei was this post serious?

yes? I didnt really think her posts were nutella wolf bad yet

it just strikes me as an odd reaction

"i wolfread one of this person's posts" "ah, but you must wolfread MORE of her posts to wolfread her"

i know you like probing people and digging into reasoning and stuff so i'm a bit concerned about you essentially swatting this read away when visor hadn't even really explained (to my recollection, anyways) what the read WAS

I asked about the read? I was hoping for elaboration from visor but that didn't happen. So it wasn't really swatting away so much as not seeing it myself and wanting more about why?

it felt more dismissive than inquisitive from where i was sitting, but ok sure i'll view it as a miscommunication for now

i get where the people pushing nutella are coming from but i dunno, i think she’s probably fine or at least find myself wanting to reserve judgment a bit

wolfy hedge m’lord

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:02 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:44 pm maybe stop trying to tell me how to play a light fucking game

Someone tell me if dya has any kind of history taking criticism to their wolf game personally

Or I could just

Hey @dyachei
Do you take criticism to your wolf game personally?

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:08 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:02 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:44 pm maybe stop trying to tell me how to play a light fucking game

Someone tell me if dya has any kind of history taking criticism to their wolf game personally

Or I could just

Hey @dyachei
Do you take criticism to your wolf game personally?

I don't take criticisms personally, if that's what you're asking? I do however hate being told how to play mafia. It's a pet peeve of mine

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:09 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:08 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:02 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:44 pm maybe stop trying to tell me how to play a light fucking game

Someone tell me if dya has any kind of history taking criticism to their wolf game personally

Or I could just

Hey @dyachei
Do you take criticism to your wolf game personally?

I don't take criticisms personally, if that's what you're asking? I do however hate being told how to play mafia. It's a pet peeve of mine

Pet peeve regardless of alignment?

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:11 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:09 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:08 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:02 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:44 pm maybe stop trying to tell me how to play a light fucking game

Someone tell me if dya has any kind of history taking criticism to their wolf game personally

Or I could just

Hey @dyachei
Do you take criticism to your wolf game personally?

I don't take criticisms personally, if that's what you're asking? I do however hate being told how to play mafia. It's a pet peeve of mine

Pet peeve regardless of alignment?

yes regardless of alignment

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

out for a while, conserving posts/gotta do work/wrist hurty

I remember someone describing a simple straightforward way to read Seth somewhere and I'm blanking on it, anyone here got anything like that?

bronana wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:59 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:56 pm so you don't even know why you voted me? cool

visor hasn't given a reason either

worst vibes are from him tbh

what? is this directed at me? I gave a perfectly cromulent explanation when I voted. Also it's an two hours into a 48 hour d1 so lol.

is it normal for nutella to be this ... passive-aggressive?

if thats wht you call passive aggressive then yeah sure?

idk you said "it was something spf said" and i was pretty sure the thing she said was the post i was referring to

so it seems like you just kinda sheeped that

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:02 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:44 pm maybe stop trying to tell me how to play a light fucking game

Someone tell me if dya has any kind of history taking criticism to their wolf game personally

it's nai

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:02 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:54 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:46 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:33 pm ah yes putting multiy thoughts in one post is wolfy for me, it is known

dya however has multiple posts with zero thoughts

there is a cap of 100 with no lift

like

let that sink in

conserve your posts and don't judge me for trying to do so myself

thanks

i actually find this post wolfy - i remember that when dyachei called you out for doing something wolfy in the zelda mash, you responded in the exact same way. you deflected the main point by gesturing to dyachei and saying: "but you're scummy too!". i feel like i'm seeing double right now

also, i don't think that anyone said that you were wolfy for trying to conserve your posts, so this feels dishonest to me

(i wrote this in my last post but it disappeared into the void for some reason?)

I don't suspect dya necessarily

I almost did with the number of shitposts but they improved

And ppl wolfread me tonally for that one post and I know the tone is a direct result of me conserving posts so

i mean, sure

but the argument of your post is still:

"you find ME wolfy? what about this OTHER person? bet you feel stupid now, huh?"

which feels even worse in the context of you misrepresenting the reason why you were getting scumread in the first place

and your reactions to the early pressure in general feel overly accusatory and overly aggressive, like you telling dya "not to waste" their posts on fish emojis, or describing the votes on you as being from the "mu elite bros clique"

i dont fault you for preserving your posts, but something just feels off. i'll let you do your thing and see if i still feel the same way, because i dont think the pressure from me is helping you if you are town

no, you are still misconstruing literally everything i said and everything i tried to explain in the very response you are quoting

stop twisting my words

you said my post was suspicious because of "nervous energy" or something and i've explained that that is because of my efforts to conserve posts and the fact that doing so is incredibly unnatural for me and makes the tone of my posts sound unnatural

so no, i haven't misrepresented your reasoning, i've acknowledged it

and i did not call dya wolfy so stop fucking implying i did, that's really uh. un-- well. the u word. you know the one

Hally wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:07 pm i get where the people pushing nutella are coming from but i dunno, i think she’s probably fine or at least find myself wanting to reserve judgment a bit

wolfy hedge m’lord

yeah keep spewing tmi every time you post i appreciate it

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:19 pm I remember someone describing a simple straightforward way to read Seth somewhere and I'm blanking on it, anyone here got anything like that?

The more his posts make you want to bash your head against the wall the more likely it is that he's town



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nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:22 pm Hally wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:07 pm
i get where the people pushing nutella are coming from but i dunno, i think she’s probably fine or at least find myself wanting to reserve judgment a bit

wolfy hedge m’lord
yeah keep spewing tmi every time you post i appreciate it

this maybe feels villagery? I feel like if wolf!Nutella were instantly being flash-wagoned by like four people, her response to being semi-defended wouldn't be 'you are TMIing me town >:('

although I think that only holds if Hally is town

to KZA or not to KZA

nutella is a villager

I'm listening to the video it's giving me ASMR

if that's weird then well I accept that

Hally wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:29 pm nutella is a villager

shh I was about to say that

k nutella is good and spicy and hally cut me off to mindmeld me so those are my towns

big respect to people who play mafia so hard that a post cap might actually effect them

couldn't be KZA

I have meta on like 5 people in this list and one of them is Gavial so it won't even help me

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:22 pm
no, you are still misconstruing literally everything i said and everything i tried to explain in the very response you are quoting

stop twisting my words

you said my post was suspicious because of "nervous energy" or something and i've explained that that is because of my efforts to conserve posts and the fact that doing so is incredibly unnatural for me and makes the tone of my posts sound unnatural

so no, i haven't misrepresented your reasoning, i've acknowledged it

and i did not call dya wolfy so stop fucking implying i did, that's really uh. un-- well. the u word. you know the one

so, to recap, the wording of your original post was this:

"ah yes putting multiy thoughts in one post is wolfy for me, it is known

dya however has multiple posts with zero thoughts

there is a cap of 100 with no lift"

the reasoning here is that if it's wolfy for you to put multiple thoughts into one post, it's also wolfy for dyachei to make multiple posts with zero thoughts, yes? you are drawing a contrast between dyachei and yourself, and saying that people should be looking at dyachei instead of you if they're looking for wolfy behavior, right?

if that's not what you mean to say, then i do apologize for misconstruing your words, but i don't really see any other way to interpret that post. you are not saying that you personally find dyachei wolfy, but you are attempting to draw attention to behavior from dyachei that looks wolfy, yes?

to recap further, when you said the following:

"ah yes putting multiy thoughts in one post is wolfy for me, it is known"

you were characterizing the reasoning for people scumreading you as being about your attempts to condense your posts, when the real reason was ~nervousness~. i understand that you are saying that you sounding tonally off is a byproduct of you attempting to conserve your posts, but you have to admit that you made a bit of an extrapolation there, yes? you used hyperbolized language to describe what you perceived as the real reason people were scumreading you for, and then used that as the foundation for your argument. that's why i called it a "misrepresentation"

i don't really see the point in getting bogged down in a discussion like this, so we should probably table it here, but i am put off by the aggressiveness and i felt like it was important to make this post and explain my perspective, because we are clearly miscommunicating incredibly badly if we're both town

Hally wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:29 pm nutella is a villager

what makes you think so?

i mindmeld with you spf for whatever it's worth