Inception [Inception Phase 4]

[Epignosis]

Since isn't to moment: Epignosis, why are we here?

[Epignosis]

Because we're here. Roll the bones.

[iaafr]

oh

[Epignosis]

I have a rabbit in my sights. Maybe I should. Maybe I shouldn't.

[iaafr]

i still think pushes on me are lazy and if you really try to get in my head my thoughts are clearly real

the fact that i like to post noise doesnt change that ive actually been trying really hard this game idk

irritation with the game kinda spiraled out of control last phase but not in a scum indicative way?

i think doms and colins pushes on me are the worst and they are also the least transparent players with their reads on the rest of the game

[iaafr]

could be one of those gamestates where everybody suspsecting me is town and the scum are cleaner than me but

idk

just wish [mention]dom[/mention] would do more than 95% tunnel me in a phase and mention one off reads on radishes and macdougall

[iaafr]

evenstar is spewed town by the boo flip btw

and HOW THE FUCK DID ANYBODY LYNCH BOO WHAT HTE FUCK SPINY WAS THE CLEAREST TOWN INT HE GAME HOLY SHIT

[iaafr]

so yeah thats where i stand right now idk ill make reads when people DO SHIT

[iaafr]

spiny had a 100% townread on evenstar

i mean she was obvious anyway but yeah

[iaafr]

could be one of those gamestates where everybody suspsecting me is town and the scum are cleaner than me but

idk

just wish @dom would do more than 95% tunnel me in a phase and mention one off reads on radishes and macdougall

also how is this even legal

[iaafr]

my reads are all literally omgus yes

i believe townreads on me right now maybe im wrong this game but if i am im not the scum the people townreading me are

[Epignosis]

i still think pushes on me are lazy and if you really try to get in my head my thoughts are clearly real

the fact that i like to post noise doesnt change that ive actually been trying really hard this game idk

irritation with the game kinda spiraled out of control last phase but not in a scum indicative way?

i think doms and colins pushes on me are the worst and they are also the least transparent players with their reads on the rest of the game

Here was my summary of you:

There are a few positives up in here for iaafr. Despite the strong claim that Dragomir was a civilian, iaafr peeled himself away from that, commenting on Dragomir’s exchange with Evenstar. I’d like to think iaafr keeping the light on Dragomir was instrumental in getting him lynched. I also don’t mind that iaafr didn’t let the thread stagnate as the deadline loomed (not that it needed his help to avoid stagnation, but it’s nice to see).

However, there are certainly some things he’s going to have to answer for. The lynch poll is the primary means by which civilians win. No one had any justifiable reason to abstain from the vote but boo. That stinks. I also invite others to look at iaafr’s apparent change in attitude regarding Dragomir, going from civilian to bad and ultimately not voting him at a critical juncture (two minutes until the end of the poll).

That latter issue is a big one for me. Civilians who don't vote are useless civilians. They fail to lynch mafia and fail to give other civilians a means of understanding them. That's a double whammy. That's why, in this particular scenario, you make my list.

[iaafr]

i mean this game still feels so troll man

thats the last of the whining ill do this phase i promise but man this is a troll ass game right now

[Epignosis]

so yeah thats where i stand right now idk ill make reads when people DO SHIT

But not votes. Hmm.

[iaafr]

sounds good thanks epignosis

[iaafr]

so yeah thats where i stand right now idk ill make reads when people DO SHIT

But not votes. Hmm.

i voted last phase

[Epignosis]

i mean this game still feels so troll man

thats the last of the whining ill do this phase i promise but man this is a troll ass game right now

Do you know the hosts, JaggedJimmyJay and Sloonei at all?

[iaafr]

hope im allowed to say that

[iaafr]

i mean this game still feels so troll man

thats the last of the whining ill do this phase i promise but man this is a troll ass game right now

Do you know the hosts, JaggedJimmyJay and Sloonei at all?

not in host capacity

i like the flavor a lot

i like the idea of the concept

the implementation feels trollish from a mafia player expecting a mafia game perspective though

[iaafr]

^ how can anybody read the above posts and not see im clearly town spewing myself town because this isnt how id go about playing scum this game at all

[Epignosis]

i mean this game still feels so troll man

thats the last of the whining ill do this phase i promise but man this is a troll ass game right now

Do you know the hosts, JaggedJimmyJay and Sloonei at all?

not in host capacity

i like the flavor a lot

i like the idea of the concept

the implementation feels trollish from a mafia player expecting a mafia game perspective though

I would relax on that last point.

I have hosted here on this site more than anyone, and as you can see here, I have managed a long-term reputation of good balance.

If there is anyone I trust to create something balanced and fair, it is JJJ and Sloonei. I believe they are fair.

I say all this to get you and those like you to calm down. Assess the challenge before you and do the best you can. Stop acting like it's the end of the world that you can't see someone's role or the other thread.

[iaafr]

i am forced into wanting to vote the least transparent players who want to kill me

{jack, dom, colin}

everybody else can live

sprityo wanted to kill me out of spite so he can live

[iaafr]

its not about balance its about game experience

i trust its balanced thats not my point

[Epignosis]

This is very different, I'll grant, but we do different on The Syndicate sometimes. Do your best regardless.

Do not think of it as a troll. Think of it as a challenge.

[iaafr]

i said it was the last id whine; please stop arguing with me about it.

[iaafr]

i gave my list of three

ill be more specific after the people post more

i have no additional analysis to add right now

[Epignosis]

i said it was the last id whine; please stop arguing with me about it.

Nope. You made it game relevant:

^ how can anybody read the above posts and not see im clearly town spewing myself town because this isnt how id go about playing scum this game at all

I will now dissect those posts and ask you questions until I'm satisfied.

[iaafr]

stop trying to teach me how to play

i predicted dragomir would end up the lynch that day 100% and i was right

i signalled over and over i didnt actually want to lynch 112 d1

my no lynch meant nothing in the scheme of things because i predicted things correctly

if you see me miss a game-losing vote in the postgame report then you can chastise me but as it stands i did not vote in a way that impeded scum being lynched so stop teaching me how to play in any capacity please

[Epignosis]

i am forced into wanting to vote the least transparent players who want to kill me

{jack, dom, colin}

everybody else can live

sprityo wanted to kill me out of spite so he can live

This is not a hunt. This is "wah."

If they wanted to kill you, they would have done so by now.

Grow some big bunny balls and start asking people if they speak English in What.

[iaafr]

not answering questions, not checking thread for 24 hours

gnight

[Epignosis]

stop trying to teach me how to play

i predicted dragomir would end up the lynch that day 100% and i was right

i signalled over and over i didnt actually want to lynch 112 d1

my no lynch meant nothing in the scheme of things because i predicted things correctly

if you see me miss a game-losing vote in the postgame report then you can chastise me but as it stands i did not vote in a way that impeded scum being lynched so stop teaching me how to play in any capacity please

Oh my dear boy. I'm not teaching you. I'm warning you.

[iaafr]

its like youre being intentionally obtuse and irritating

[Epignosis]

We'll be friends by Monday morning.

[Epignosis]

its like youre being intentionally obtuse and irritating

Good day. I'm Epignosis.

[Epignosis]

stop trying to teach me how to play

i predicted dragomir would end up the lynch that day 100% and i was right

i signalled over and over i didnt actually want to lynch 112 d1

my no lynch meant nothing in the scheme of things because i predicted things correctly

if you see me miss a game-losing vote in the postgame report then you can chastise me but as it stands i did not vote in a way that impeded scum being lynched so stop teaching me how to play in any capacity please

This means absolutely nothing to me. If you are mafia, you know who is bad. Dragomir's play was pretty lousy all around, and you saying he would get lynched doesn't mean shit. You don't win by guessing who would get lynched.

[iaafr]

ill try to be jovial but its hard to get into that mode when people keep calling my reads bad without being specific and trying to teach me how to play when i think i know what im doing and im not asking for help

ill try not to get mad at pushes on me right now but people need to discuss more other people too or rehash/update views on others

i promised work this day, i'll do it. later. i hope dom doesn't generically assume it's written by scum again, but i'm prepared for the possibility.

[iaafr]

that was me trying to link this book from amazon:

Emotional Intelligence: Why It Can Matter More Than IQ Paperback – September 27, 2005
by Daniel Goleman (Author)

[Epignosis]

i signalled over and over i didnt actually want to lynch 112 d1

And if this is true at all...

...why in God's name didn't you vote Dragomir to add insurance so that 112 didn't die?

Bull

Spoiler: show

shit.

That's why.

[Epignosis]

ill try to be jovial but its hard to get into that mode when people keep calling my reads bad without being specific and trying to teach me how to play when i think i know what im doing and im not asking for help

ill try not to get mad at pushes on me right now but people need to discuss more other people too or rehash/update views on others

i promised work this day, i'll do it. later. i hope dom doesn't generically assume it's written by scum again, but i'm prepared for the possibility.

I gave you specifics.

[iaafr]

its like you cant even imagine i believed what i believed

and i cant even pull up the posts from d1 to provide what i believe is evidence of my signaling of how the lynch would go

and im saying i was right

jesus christ

[Epignosis]

And I don't care about a book about emotional intelligence. I care about finding mafia.

[Pawn Lelouch]

Since there isn't anything to discuss at moment: Pawn Lelouch, what kind of music do you like?

Just since I'm up right now I feel obligated to ask you to post that in the interrogation room instead.

[Epignosis]

Since there isn't anything to discuss at moment: Pawn Lelouch, what kind of music do you like?

Just since I'm up right now I feel obligated to ask you to post that in the interrogation room instead.

Fair enough.

[iaafr]

pawn pelase talk to me

[iaafr]

[mention]pawn lelouch[/mention]

is epignosis being fair to me right now?

[Epignosis]

its like you cant even imagine i believed what i believed

and i cant even pull up the posts from d1 to provide what i believe is evidence of my signaling of how the lynch would go

and im saying i was right

jesus christ

I am saying I have this:

"i signalled over and over i didnt actually want to lynch 112 d1"

coming from someone who didn't vote to save 112 when it was very close.

Truly you can't expect me to let that pass.

[iaafr]

i dont understand whats going on i feel like i joined a game and i just get antagonized in a way that i literally cant respond to because of game mechanics and then they tell me to try my best to enjoy

[iaafr]

its like you cant even imagine i believed what i believed

and i cant even pull up the posts from d1 to provide what i believe is evidence of my signaling of how the lynch would go

and im saying i was right

jesus christ

I am saying I have this:

"i signalled over and over i didnt actually want to lynch 112 d1"

coming from someone who didn't vote to save 112 when it was very close.

Truly you can't expect me to let that pass.

im not responding to any posts from you anymore

[Epignosis]

You don't need to worry about me being fair to you.

You need to worry about me being honest with you.

Am I being honest with you?

[iaafr]

this is legitimately emotionally distressing