EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:55 am
I fully admit I'm not perfect but I'm pretty damn sure I've had a good enough track record to not be dismissed as "biasing himself into pushes."
If you're talking about the FoL game I'll point out that I was RIGHT about misty and couldn't swing that so I ended up letting myself move.
Yes that was the game, I thought it was on my home site. But ya that's all I can say from the quick skim and all the early NAIs
I successfully called out multiple wolves and was right on Misty in the end.
My biggest mistake was assuming the "Deadchat" communicator was towny, which I'll bear. But tbh I was hardly the only one.
I didn't move my vote to wolves a lot that game because I was a triple voter who couldn't vote in the second half of the day.
We can only trust the truth. Everything else is a lie.
Rondo is never in any wolfteams with Ilario and Dyachei based on how they both tried to put him in the POE today which means he is probably just town mathematically (also he's towny).
I think the game comes down to figuring out whether Lily or Neon is with Belzy and Dya right now. Or whether it was just Ilario all along and both Lily and neon decided to openwolf to shield someone they both should know how to read.
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:10 am
ender ur case is towny lol, but i think ur just confbiased. compare how dya played d1 to someone like santy, its not all that different imo
Wrong.
Search the ISO of Santy and see how many times Porscha and the wagon is mentioned.
Santy definitely was wrong, but they at least interacted and recognised the Porscha wagon.
Dya straight up ignore's its existence until Alison asks them.
Yes, brcause i dont know them well. I spend time on d1 trying to solve the slots I have more experience with
I also didn't treat mac like he's loverized, I treated him as lock town because he is to me and has been since d1. His alison case just convinced me more
but go ahead and vote me out today. I'm really over this game
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 9:02 am
Rondo is never in any wolfteams with Ilario and Dyachei based on how they both tried to put him in the POE today which means he is probably just town mathematically (also he's towny).
I think the game comes down to figuring out whether Lily or Neon is with Belzy and Dya right now. Or whether it was just Ilario all along and both Lily and neon decided to openwolf to shield someone they both should know how to read.
when I flip town, the last interaction I ever want to have with you is you saying you are sorry for confbiasing me based on your emotional outburst
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 9:02 am
Rondo is never in any wolfteams with Ilario and Dyachei based on how they both tried to put him in the POE today which means he is probably just town mathematically (also he's towny).
I think the game comes down to figuring out whether Lily or Neon is with Belzy and Dya right now. Or whether it was just Ilario all along and both Lily and neon decided to openwolf to shield someone they both should know how to read.
when I flip town, the last interaction I ever want to have with you is you saying you are sorry for confbiasing me based on your emotional outburst
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 9:02 am
Rondo is never in any wolfteams with Ilario and Dyachei based on how they both tried to put him in the POE today which means he is probably just town mathematically (also he's towny).
I think the game comes down to figuring out whether Lily or Neon is with Belzy and Dya right now. Or whether it was just Ilario all along and both Lily and neon decided to openwolf to shield someone they both should know how to read.
when I flip town, the last interaction I ever want to have with you is you saying you are sorry for confbiasing me based on your emotional outburst
Not sure I deserve this but go off.
you've been treating me like crap all game. why the fuck would I want to interact with you EVER again?
you deserve more than what I'm putting out here. I've considered exiting the game on multiple occasions because of how you've interacted with me
I spent most of today operating under the impression you are town and am now only back here because Ender, my top townread, made a very good case.
I think getting mad at me and saying I'm confbiased because of emotions is incorrect and the whole last interaction ever piece is quite groovy and fetch. Sick patterns.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 9:02 am
Rondo is never in any wolfteams with Ilario and Dyachei based on how they both tried to put him in the POE today which means he is probably just town mathematically (also he's towny).
I think the game comes down to figuring out whether Lily or Neon is with Belzy and Dya right now. Or whether it was just Ilario all along and both Lily and neon decided to openwolf to shield someone they both should know how to read.
when I flip town, the last interaction I ever want to have with you is you saying you are sorry for confbiasing me based on your emotional outburst
Not sure I deserve this but go off.
you've been treating me like crap all game. why the fuck would I want to interact with you EVER again?
you deserve more than what I'm putting out here. I've considered exiting the game on multiple occasions because of how you've interacted with me
Seems like only one of us is going to reflect on this and take some personal accountability. Oh well.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 9:02 am
Rondo is never in any wolfteams with Ilario and Dyachei based on how they both tried to put him in the POE today which means he is probably just town mathematically (also he's towny).
I think the game comes down to figuring out whether Lily or Neon is with Belzy and Dya right now. Or whether it was just Ilario all along and both Lily and neon decided to openwolf to shield someone they both should know how to read.
when I flip town, the last interaction I ever want to have with you is you saying you are sorry for confbiasing me based on your emotional outburst
Not sure I deserve this but go off.
you've been treating me like crap all game. why the fuck would I want to interact with you EVER again?
you deserve more than what I'm putting out here. I've considered exiting the game on multiple occasions because of how you've interacted with me
Seems like only one of us is going to reflect on this and take some personal accountability. Oh well.
I've personally reflected and I hope you will, too. But I was not mean to you in any situation. I disagreed with your reads and you told me I was treating you like a moron. I have no use for playing with someone that wants you to suck up to them
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 9:02 am
Rondo is never in any wolfteams with Ilario and Dyachei based on how they both tried to put him in the POE today which means he is probably just town mathematically (also he's towny).
I think the game comes down to figuring out whether Lily or Neon is with Belzy and Dya right now. Or whether it was just Ilario all along and both Lily and neon decided to openwolf to shield someone they both should know how to read.
when I flip town, the last interaction I ever want to have with you is you saying you are sorry for confbiasing me based on your emotional outburst
Not sure I deserve this but go off.
you've been treating me like crap all game. why the fuck would I want to interact with you EVER again?
you deserve more than what I'm putting out here. I've considered exiting the game on multiple occasions because of how you've interacted with me
Seems like only one of us is going to reflect on this and take some personal accountability. Oh well.
I've personally reflected and I hope you will, too. But I was not mean to you in any situation. I disagreed with your reads and you told me I was treating you like a moron. I have no use for playing with someone that wants you to suck up to them
I don't mind avoiding you. You obviously think what you think and I think what I think. I'm fine with it.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 1:08 am
Also not sure why you expect me to have addressed it unprompted
Well you know you're posting it and you know we can see it so you have chosen to stay silent about it. I am not going to treat you like some coquette. I know you're smart and you know your own perception in thread so me asking about it overtly ay this point is moot because you've already chosen to say nothing when others have. So I can only conclude its part of your wincon that you don't talk about it and again the cycle renews.b
It's only been this game that I've felt strongly about this, mac. So go reread some posts and realize that disagreement isn't mean. But telling someone they are essentially bullying you for it is awful
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 4:09 am
The current slots are at risk of imminent death if they don't start townsiding with thread content immediately.
@Belzy
@RondoDimBuckle
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
I mean if two of belzy/wisp/rondo are mafia i feel like I've been doing pretty well lol. This is what you're gonna get from me for now, and im certainly not gonna start trying harder in thread on a day the kill is decided.
Besides, I've been fine, there's just been so much bloat in this thread lol, so, like...deal with it
hey ender, if we chop rondo today and flips town ill sheep u for the rest of the game im alive. how about that? and if u get nkd ill find ur last reads list post and defend it with my life
I will say that the root cause of this entire dialogue has been that you townread me while repeatedly insisting my reads are bad without explaining why and it made me feel like you think I'm a dumbass (if town) and when I expressed that you hurt my feelings you then accused me of ate and got real mad that I was upset. Which then actually pissed me off because I felt that you just hand waved away my feelings and accused me of being manipulative instead of addressing it in a friendly way. And then continued to use that perspective to deflect every suspicion I had on you about game related stuff.
But you no doubt see it differently. I hope you see it from my perspective tho.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:25 am
I know you agree you already said he was. So that's great. @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME you have been upgraded to incontrovertible town by all participants. You will now be getting night killed in this game because you are a green check.
dyachei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 9:16 am
It's only been this game that I've felt strongly about this, mac. So go reread some posts and realize that disagreement isn't mean. But telling someone they are essentially bullying you for it is awful
I will admit that I may have been overly sensitive to begin with. But I don't think that justifies your dismissal and rage about me telling you I was upset.
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:39 pm
no like actually what has porscha done we have to stop MLing porscha lol
if there's even a chance she's town im not touching her
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@Millium
@Chamomile
@EnderWiggin
@ilario
can you give me a 1-2 sentence reason to why you're voting porscha?
Wagon comp + minimal reads + L + Ratio
are we going to joke and say that's indicative of w!porscha?
Idk usually i can find her pretty quickly and I can't here, if she's town skill issue on my part ig
i mean tbf she hasnt posted that much content at all but like it's porscha we're talking about lol this isn't out of character imo
this just feels like lhf
Eh i mean
I dont expect dense wallposts obviously but she usually has more, and she usually has a "figuring things out" vibe where here she has kind of a "Tuesday morning and im still hungover from Sunday night so might as well hair of the dog it cause oh my fucking god its only Tuesday morning and I have four more days of this monotony and Marcus is already trying to talk to me and I dont want to respond but I have to so im gonna fake smile and go through the motions" vibe you know what i mean
what is nooks record on Porscha? From how he is talking here he either has played with her a lot and has been right on her a lot but it could be TMI. But I dont really know if this kind of push on a partner is in Nooks wolf range. Lately I have been leaning nook 3p
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 9:19 am
I will say that the root cause of this entire dialogue has been that you townread me while repeatedly insisting my reads are bad without explaining why and it made me feel like you think I'm a dumbass (if town) and when I expressed that you hurt my feelings you then accused me of ate and got real mad that I was upset. Which then actually pissed me off because I felt that you just hand waved away my feelings and accused me of being manipulative instead of addressing it in a friendly way. And then continued to use that perspective to deflect every suspicion I had on you about game related stuff.
But you no doubt see it differently. I hope you see it from my perspective tho.
I have explained why your reads are bad, you just don't care for the explanations. I explained it when I thought alison was town but you ignored those.
I'm not going to address you in a friendly way when you've been treating me like crap all game mac. Maybe consider how your treatment of people makes them react to you because you keep assuming this is everyone else's fault. You've done it to multiple people this game, not just me. You treat me with contempt all game and then say "i feel hurt" it's not going to get you the reaction you want. I'm not going to apologize for playing the game as I see fit, which is basically what you want me to apologize for.
consider also how much you dish out for apparently being very thin skinned. If you can't take it, stop dishing it
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 9:19 am
I will say that the root cause of this entire dialogue has been that you townread me while repeatedly insisting my reads are bad without explaining why and it made me feel like you think I'm a dumbass (if town) and when I expressed that you hurt my feelings you then accused me of ate and got real mad that I was upset. Which then actually pissed me off because I felt that you just hand waved away my feelings and accused me of being manipulative instead of addressing it in a friendly way. And then continued to use that perspective to deflect every suspicion I had on you about game related stuff.
But you no doubt see it differently. I hope you see it from my perspective tho.
I have explained why your reads are bad, you just don't care for the explanations. I explained it when I thought alison was town but you ignored those.
I'm not going to address you in a friendly way when you've been treating me like crap all game mac. Maybe consider how your treatment of people makes them react to you because you keep assuming this is everyone else's fault. You've done it to multiple people this game, not just me. You treat me with contempt all game and then say "i feel hurt" it's not going to get you the reaction you want. I'm not going to apologize for playing the game as I see fit, which is basically what you want me to apologize for.
consider also how much you dish out for apparently being very thin skinned. If you can't take it, stop dishing it
I don't like you, you don't like me, that's cool. Moving on.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 9:19 am
I will say that the root cause of this entire dialogue has been that you townread me while repeatedly insisting my reads are bad without explaining why and it made me feel like you think I'm a dumbass (if town) and when I expressed that you hurt my feelings you then accused me of ate and got real mad that I was upset. Which then actually pissed me off because I felt that you just hand waved away my feelings and accused me of being manipulative instead of addressing it in a friendly way. And then continued to use that perspective to deflect every suspicion I had on you about game related stuff.
But you no doubt see it differently. I hope you see it from my perspective tho.
I have explained why your reads are bad, you just don't care for the explanations. I explained it when I thought alison was town but you ignored those.
I'm not going to address you in a friendly way when you've been treating me like crap all game mac. Maybe consider how your treatment of people makes them react to you because you keep assuming this is everyone else's fault. You've done it to multiple people this game, not just me. You treat me with contempt all game and then say "i feel hurt" it's not going to get you the reaction you want. I'm not going to apologize for playing the game as I see fit, which is basically what you want me to apologize for.
consider also how much you dish out for apparently being very thin skinned. If you can't take it, stop dishing it
I don't like you, you don't like me, that's cool. Moving on.
I didn't have a problem with you before this game. Maybe have a think on that. And why pulling in my "influence" on the mafia community was a fucking bad plan
you don't have to like me. It doesn't bother me if you don't. But you brought this on yourself
