Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [GAME OVER - TOWN WIN]

There's so few left, but we could still stand to lose one.

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I'm ok with a Cham vote, I would prefer to nail Santy so we can start finding the rest of his team through associatives, but I think Cham is probably 3P so it's fine.
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Alison wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:17 pm
dyachei wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:12 pm why do people who think cham is town think he's town?
I actually am wondering why Cham was 100% convinced I was mafia earlier on in the day and then abruptly stopped and has shown zero interest or mention of me ever since.
I did mention you! In my read list

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dyachei wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:12 pm why do people who think cham is town think he's town?
You're like Mac in that you've never once town read me!

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I am pondering the possibility of Millium and Porscha both being mafia and us just inting by switching to Aro yesterday
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It's probably not true because Millium wanted Porscha at all costs yesterday despite being given alternatives
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Alison's Santy push is atrocious. Not sure if scum or cringe!

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They hated her for she spoke the truth
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Alison wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:28 pm They hated her for she spoke the truth
Is this truth just like your Aro truth !? :smoky:

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@Lilypetal
Has porscha gotten that worked up with anyone else or just Seanzie? To be honest I get the opposite reaction, I don't necessarily see it as wolf/wolf, at least her more aggressive reaction. It might just be reverse, Porsche knows they are town is having a hard time dealing with their playstyle

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Chamomile wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:30 pm
Alison wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:28 pm They hated her for she spoke the truth
Is this truth just like your Aro truth !? :smoky:

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No it's an even better one

my reads tend to get better over time since I have more information to work with

Also I'm in the POE now which automatically gives me a buff to reading ability
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Man I think I might actually watch one piece. These gifs are dope! Should I watch or read though, Maybe watch on 2x speed?
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Just wait for Cham to bury a wolf, then you know they are town
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Chamomile wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:33 pm Man I think I might actually watch one piece. These gifs are dope! Should I watch or read though, Maybe watch on 2x speed?
I'd rather bleach my eyes
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Alison wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:33 pm
Chamomile wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:30 pm
Alison wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:28 pm They hated her for she spoke the truth
Is this truth just like your Aro truth !? :smoky:

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No it's an even better one

my reads tend to get better over time since I have more information to work with

Also I'm in the POE now which automatically gives me a buff to reading ability
That's a cool ability! If we're both around Day 4 I'll start to consider your reads! Since it's still early people should probably just sheep me who is sweeping Illario as my early reads tend to be better than average!

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I'll recant on Cham if Rondo is mafia
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Millium wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:32 pm @Lilypetal
Has porscha gotten that worked up with anyone else or just Seanzie? To be honest I get the opposite reaction, I don't necessarily see it as wolf/wolf, at least her more aggressive reaction. It might just be reverse, Porsche knows they are town is having a hard time dealing with their playstyle

/shrug
only other thing i can remember off the top of my head is some snark towards mac that I originally TR'd
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Alison wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:35 pm I'll recant on Cham if Rondo is mafia
do...do you know how to read rondo?
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Millium wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:34 pm
Chamomile wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:33 pm Man I think I might actually watch one piece. These gifs are dope! Should I watch or read though, Maybe watch on 2x speed?
I'd rather bleach my eyes
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dyachei wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:37 pm
Alison wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:35 pm I'll recant on Cham if Rondo is mafia
do...do you know how to read rondo?
I have some ideas, but I've never been town against his mafia before, so I can't 100% guarantee it.
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@Alison both Ilario and Lilypetal are strongly townlocking me.
Ender, Mac , Dya, Wisp , Neon and Cham iirc are alo townreading me. I am being quite obviously town

For how you say you play the game and how you respect the reads of people who have more experience with me than you , you should have rescinded your push on me ASAP .

And like, be able to see that I am pushing you for:

*Strongly Townreading Tilgarial when you shouldnt have that confidence on Tilg
*Your PoEs being super prowolf
*The push on aro/wisp which is prob V/V
*The treatment of the Porscha wagon EoD1
*Now in D2 you are not pushing Porscha half as strongly as you were aro/wisp (who were Villas)
*You have pushed mostly me, which surprise surprise, is an obvtow
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btw @MacDougall you should definitely watch OG Naruto! Just Google Naruto episode guide and there's many guides on which episodes to skip to avoid fillers. They are mainly just a large chunk after all the good stuff goes down. But like watch up to the chunin exams at minimum and go from there!

I wonder if there is a similar guide for one piece
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Chamomile wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:33 pm Man I think I might actually watch one piece. These gifs are dope! Should I watch or read though, Maybe watch on 2x speed?
Watch until you get to Timeskip. Then switch to the manga is my recommendation
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Chamomile wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:40 pm btw @MacDougall you should definitely watch OG Naruto! Just Google Naruto episode guide and there's many guides on which episodes to skip to avoid fillers. They are mainly just a large chunk after all the good stuff goes down. But like watch up to the chunin exams at minimum and go from there!

I wonder if there is a similar guide for one piece
I think there is something called One Pace that its One Piece but without the filler
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Also Alison, on D1 you even saw the Lily case and put me in a separate tier to recognize Lily case.
So now you saying to not recall players casing me town or something like that is super wolfy once again. And Illario was also super vocal about me being town so I highly doubt you missed that
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santygrass wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:45 pm Also Alison, on D1 you even saw the Lily case and put me in a separate tier to recognize Lily case.
So now you saying to not recall players casing me town or something like that is super wolfy once again. And Illario was also super vocal about me being town so I highly doubt you missed that
she specifically said she wanted to see good players casing u
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If Alison says you are not a good player Alison is 1000% a wolf.

Specifically because it gave it enough weight D1 to put me in a 'shielded player' tier
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Alison wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:35 pm I'll recant on Cham if Rondo is mafia
This logic doesn't make sense as you think I'm 3P! Rando's alignment should be irrelevant to mine therefore!

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/Alison

I'll still switch if Illario wants me to but cmon!

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Lilypetal wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 12:51 pm
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Tilgarial wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 12:47 pm
Seanzie wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 11:39 am
santygrass wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:19 am @Seanzie How do you feel about me?

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santygrass wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:20 am One part of me wants to just ignore Seanzie, but Im too much of a nice guy and totally dismiss their read on me would be rude methinks
santygrass wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:27 am Well, I'm not. So Skill Issue there 😤
santygrass wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:51 am
Seanzie wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:46 am
santygrass wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:40 am Like, I can explain or go into more detail my Neon tr , or why I vibed with spf/ilario takes but I feel like its kinda clear in my ISO?
Like, usually I can kinda understand why people scumread me, but I kinda feel that I have been obvtowning kinda hard this game. I have made my statements clear and see people give the lazy 'feels TMI' read when they have played with me before as town and know this is a shit take tbh.

Lik cmon @Lilypetal you said that I couldnt townread you off of 5 posts, when the reason I expressed I thought you were town is because two of my scumreads were voting you, when you were in a lhf position? Ffs if anyone seriously think thats a tmi type of read they have to check their skill issue right now

The read on Neon is kinda super clear too why I gave it. Like, a strong meld on the takes, and the way Neon preseted those takes (irt to aro and Tilga) to the thread was super obvtown? Like, not wanting to show 'I have these reads' , but rather implying them at the start and being lowkey about it in the midst of their fluff posting, its just super towny to me.

And like, I only have 2 games with Neon . The Misplay one and the Mash. @MacDougall was in both, so cmparing those two , I think its kinda obvious why I would see this style of posting more towny of Neon? Like, Im not calling Neon polarized because I clearly lack meta, but its and indicator + the melding + the approach in how they take the game irt their read was just super towny.

@staypositivefriend also should know that I mostly base my reads on how I think a player is approaching the game, and that usually leads me to giving confident reads, specially townreads that are usually right (not always. But thats why reassessing exists. ). Like spf you were spectating finale, and one lf the reasons specchat tunneled me was the confidence I had in against tje consensus reads that they were right (aka my Ephemera tow read, which was confident from early and was right. Wowee! ) .


So I think the 'zzanty with reads that feel like TMI' is Lazy and reeking Skill Issue tbh. And something a wolf can easily hop in to boost.

With the latter I am thinking of @arogame123 which mentioned me as possible mafia while doing no effort in trying to interact with me imo , and I was personally expecting more effort in their part in regards to my slot because we are both One Piece Fans tbhtbh
What is your read on me? How do you think I'm approaching the game?
The way you treated your vote / approach feels natural atm, but its not something I can do much atm
santygrass wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:56 am To reply more to the approach part.

Feel like an approach that doesnt care to *explain* much why they think some stuff? And a kinda bold but not loud one.

I mostly refer to this with being kinda lurking and be obvious about it, how you vote but not make much of a push, and it feels *natural* because it is in lin with how you just put the colored list and also dont care to give explanations about ut.

So looking at the string of posts I see how the approach adds up and feels good, but not so much of how many is alignment indicative.

Like, the way you said 'I would vote santy rn' without voting me felt pretty based. And then you ended voting me. That felt kinda towny to me, but at the same time could be a misread and that just being your playstyle. Because at the end you are voting towm there /shrug
Read these posts and tell me this person does not know I'm town.

They are bending over backwards to find a way to cast my approach as "natural" without ever considering for a second that I'm a wolf trying to make them wolfprey.

"part of me just wants to ignore Seanzie" aka they do not consider my push on them possibly coming from a wolf, instead they just want to dismiss an incorrect townie.

"skill issue there" they do not consider that I could be purposefully reading them mafia to get them to flip, they only consider that I might be a wrong townie with a skill issue.

The final post I quote, almost every sentence is "Seanzie is townie, but I don't want to say that out loud".

They clearly know I'm town, and the fact that they do not include me in their towreads makes it so this is TMI.
@Lilypetal here. the perspective is quite comprehensive & to my eyes it looks like they actually believe this, so I'd be interested in what you think about this

also while scrolling through the ISO I saw them shielding Belzy. didn't read enough to figure out why/if it's still a thing, but it might interest you
It's interesting for sure. I'll keep this in mind ty
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What do you think about it?
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Alison wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 12:52 pm
santygrass wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:51 am You are hard bussing Tilg who can not be yeeted and your Push on Porscha is close to non existent
I am currently the only person voting Porscha.

Why aren't you voting her?

If I'm scum bussing her then she flips red.

If you're wrong and I'm town then I'm probably correct about her.

Answer: because Porscha is your teammate and you want my green flip and not her red flip.
I was gonna ask if you really think Santy and me are W/W here, but you did call it theatre earlier
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Alison wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 12:54 pm
Tilgarial wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:49 am
Alison wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:35 am
1) Because you have to. There's no other viable nightkill.

2) You did nothing to influence the votes.
There's a lot of players here, and I'm not good at NKA/planning NK's, but I'd actually say it's relatively easy to come up with alternatives
you, for one, since you claim selfresolvable. mac, since they seem to be keeping the thread together somewhat and are townread enough. lily maybe, depending on how the thread actually reads that slot rn. pretty sure your current solve includes none of those? I dunno actually, but I hope your solve doesn't include yourself
and this is just what I can think of off of the top of my head, so meh

I'd say I voted aro at a pivotal point tbh. like yeah it was the wrong one, but I still very much claim responsibility for causing that cascade of votes there. had I voted porscha or millium there, both options that very much stood open to me - actually, if I were wolf!tilg, maybe even more than the aro vote - I could have put some more thread pressure on those wagons, and at the very least things would have developed very differently. Wolf!tilg would have also been in a position to defend aro there, actually, so I'd very much say that a wolf!tilg here directly chose to off both SPF and aro, which from my PoV doesn't make sense in part due to the very thing you bring up

(sorry for making wallposts)
It is silly to suggest Lily would be nightkilled over SPF unless there was mech in play. Mac and myself are possibilities but we had just spearheaded the aro exe while SPF did not. So she is strictly superior to us as an NK considering we all had similar reads.

I don't think your vote on aro was pivotal at all.
You talk as if there is always one specific NK to make, and all others are bad, which I don't really get especially without knowing what the wolf team is
Especially considering that you somehow also believe that this NK is outing for me, so wouldn't that be a bad NK in a W!Tilga world too?

If you look at how things went down, do you deny that my vote started a cascade onto aro?

(I appologize for any typos, I'm on phone and it ain't easy to catch them all)
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Alison wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 12:56 pm
dyachei wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 12:14 pm I don't think we should use the not being able to vote tilg thing to say tilg is mafia. I think if you have an independent read there, fine, but not being able to vote there is not necessarily because tilg's a wolf
I think it is >>rand wolf because I think the poll ghoster would have claimed by now if they were town and mafia is way more likely to use their action on a scumbuddy.

But I have a scumread on Tilg independent of that anyway.
If using an ability like that on town turns them into an ml - especially when it basically wastes two days for town discussing a world in which that town is a wolf - is that really a bad thing for wolves?
And if it's not a bad thing, why is it impossible?
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Seanzie wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 12:58 pm
Tilgarial wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 12:44 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 12:39 pm
Lilypetal wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 12:34 pm whatever read the shitty post and tell me the teal colored posts arent w/w lmao
The teal colored posts arent w/w lmao
what do you think about porscha in general/in those quotes?
Porscha is south-of-null for me, but I don't feel so strongly about it that I'mma start canvasing for her elim.

I felt weird about the Porscha wagon as EoD was getting close yesterday and felt a bit better about Millium, but kind of think that if Millium is town, Porscha's wolf equity grows a lot.

As for those posts, I didn't think much about the at the time, but now I kind of think perhaps it could be wolf!Porscha trying not to draw my suspicion. She has usually had a good read on me in the past, being one of the few people who really caught me (and died for it) in my last wolf game, and usually finding me town, so it is possible she is bending over backwards to townread me there in order to not make me wonder why she is reading me wrong this game. If I put my confbias glasses on, the "????" kinda reeks of a wolf who is caught up via wolfchat (so no mention of masons in wolf chat -> surprised about me mentioning masons because they didn't read EoD1). I don't remember the other teal olored post and I am phone posting so meh no comment there.

So yeah, bad feelz about the Porscha wagon and general bad feelz about how EoD1 happened gives me pause, but on play Porscha doesn't look good. Still think solving Millium is the single thing that will do the most good though.
I'm gonna tag @Porscha for this, but thank you for answering
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Lilypetal wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 12:58 pm damn tilg said i was a possible nk

what an honor

is that straight from wolfchat? :flushed:
If it is, wolves probably fear me right now. What else did I see?

But nah, I'm just assuming you're widely townread because me voting you is apparently a pivotal part of sussing me & you had a wagon yesterday, so there were probably eyes on you. I'm mostly assuming that w!lily (or W!anyone for that matter, not a you specific read) would have had trouble getting out of that
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Tilgarial wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 2:00 pm
Lilypetal wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 12:51 pm
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Seanzie wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 11:39 am
santygrass wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:19 am @Seanzie How do you feel about me?

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santygrass wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:20 am One part of me wants to just ignore Seanzie, but Im too much of a nice guy and totally dismiss their read on me would be rude methinks
santygrass wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:27 am Well, I'm not. So Skill Issue there 😤
santygrass wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:51 am
Seanzie wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:46 am
santygrass wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:40 am Like, I can explain or go into more detail my Neon tr , or why I vibed with spf/ilario takes but I feel like its kinda clear in my ISO?
Like, usually I can kinda understand why people scumread me, but I kinda feel that I have been obvtowning kinda hard this game. I have made my statements clear and see people give the lazy 'feels TMI' read when they have played with me before as town and know this is a shit take tbh.

Lik cmon @Lilypetal you said that I couldnt townread you off of 5 posts, when the reason I expressed I thought you were town is because two of my scumreads were voting you, when you were in a lhf position? Ffs if anyone seriously think thats a tmi type of read they have to check their skill issue right now

The read on Neon is kinda super clear too why I gave it. Like, a strong meld on the takes, and the way Neon preseted those takes (irt to aro and Tilga) to the thread was super obvtown? Like, not wanting to show 'I have these reads' , but rather implying them at the start and being lowkey about it in the midst of their fluff posting, its just super towny to me.

And like, I only have 2 games with Neon . The Misplay one and the Mash. @MacDougall was in both, so cmparing those two , I think its kinda obvious why I would see this style of posting more towny of Neon? Like, Im not calling Neon polarized because I clearly lack meta, but its and indicator + the melding + the approach in how they take the game irt their read was just super towny.

@staypositivefriend also should know that I mostly base my reads on how I think a player is approaching the game, and that usually leads me to giving confident reads, specially townreads that are usually right (not always. But thats why reassessing exists. ). Like spf you were spectating finale, and one lf the reasons specchat tunneled me was the confidence I had in against tje consensus reads that they were right (aka my Ephemera tow read, which was confident from early and was right. Wowee! ) .


So I think the 'zzanty with reads that feel like TMI' is Lazy and reeking Skill Issue tbh. And something a wolf can easily hop in to boost.

With the latter I am thinking of @arogame123 which mentioned me as possible mafia while doing no effort in trying to interact with me imo , and I was personally expecting more effort in their part in regards to my slot because we are both One Piece Fans tbhtbh
What is your read on me? How do you think I'm approaching the game?
The way you treated your vote / approach feels natural atm, but its not something I can do much atm
santygrass wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:56 am To reply more to the approach part.

Feel like an approach that doesnt care to *explain* much why they think some stuff? And a kinda bold but not loud one.

I mostly refer to this with being kinda lurking and be obvious about it, how you vote but not make much of a push, and it feels *natural* because it is in lin with how you just put the colored list and also dont care to give explanations about ut.

So looking at the string of posts I see how the approach adds up and feels good, but not so much of how many is alignment indicative.

Like, the way you said 'I would vote santy rn' without voting me felt pretty based. And then you ended voting me. That felt kinda towny to me, but at the same time could be a misread and that just being your playstyle. Because at the end you are voting towm there /shrug
Read these posts and tell me this person does not know I'm town.

They are bending over backwards to find a way to cast my approach as "natural" without ever considering for a second that I'm a wolf trying to make them wolfprey.

"part of me just wants to ignore Seanzie" aka they do not consider my push on them possibly coming from a wolf, instead they just want to dismiss an incorrect townie.

"skill issue there" they do not consider that I could be purposefully reading them mafia to get them to flip, they only consider that I might be a wrong townie with a skill issue.

The final post I quote, almost every sentence is "Seanzie is townie, but I don't want to say that out loud".

They clearly know I'm town, and the fact that they do not include me in their towreads makes it so this is TMI.
@Lilypetal here. the perspective is quite comprehensive & to my eyes it looks like they actually believe this, so I'd be interested in what you think about this

also while scrolling through the ISO I saw them shielding Belzy. didn't read enough to figure out why/if it's still a thing, but it might interest you
It's interesting for sure. I'll keep this in mind ty
What do you think about it?
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I don't know if he believes it tbh. A wolf could very easily make that post. I believe santy is a villager so I don't think the contents have too many merits anyhow
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Tilgarial wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 2:15 pm
Lilypetal wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 12:58 pm damn tilg said i was a possible nk

what an honor

is that straight from wolfchat? :flushed:
If it is, wolves probably fear me right now. What else did I see?

But nah, I'm just assuming you're widely townread because me voting you is apparently a pivotal part of sussing me & you had a wagon yesterday, so there were probably eyes on you. I'm mostly assuming that w!lily (or W!anyone for that matter, not a you specific read) would have had trouble getting out of that
Yeah I don't really get why you voting me is that big of a deal in all honesty. I kinda reject the dichotomy suggested day 1. I was a fine vote then tbh although a lazy one
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Is eod in 4 hours?
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3 hours I think
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santygrass wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:39 pm @Alison both Ilario and Lilypetal are strongly townlocking me.
Ender, Mac , Dya, Wisp , Neon and Cham iirc are alo townreading me. I am being quite obviously town

For how you say you play the game and how you respect the reads of people who have more experience with me than you , you should have rescinded your push on me ASAP .

And like, be able to see that I am pushing you for:

*Strongly Townreading Tilgarial when you shouldnt have that confidence on Tilg
*Your PoEs being super prowolf
*The push on aro/wisp which is prob V/V
*The treatment of the Porscha wagon EoD1
*Now in D2 you are not pushing Porscha half as strongly as you were aro/wisp (who were Villas)
*You have pushed mostly me, which surprise surprise, is an obvtow
I don't believe you.
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santygrass wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:45 pm Also Alison, on D1 you even saw the Lily case and put me in a separate tier to recognize Lily case.
So now you saying to not recall players casing me town or something like that is super wolfy once again. And Illario was also super vocal about me being town so I highly doubt you missed that
I respected Lily's read D1, don't care about it D2. Don't care about Illario's read since he's clearly your pocket target.
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[VOTE: cham] aubergine
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Chamomile wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:53 pm
Alison wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:35 pm I'll recant on Cham if Rondo is mafia
This logic doesn't make sense as you think I'm 3P! Rando's alignment should be irrelevant to mine therefore!

one piece
I think you are specifically a ToS executioner or similar and the executioner target is almost never mafia
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I'll be back from class in about an hour. More than enough time to write up my legacy and explain who the mafia are.
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Lilypetal wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 3:00 pm
Tilgarial wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 2:00 pm
Lilypetal wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 12:51 pm
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Tilgarial wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 12:47 pm
Seanzie wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 11:39 am
santygrass wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:19 am @Seanzie How do you feel about me?

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santygrass wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:20 am One part of me wants to just ignore Seanzie, but Im too much of a nice guy and totally dismiss their read on me would be rude methinks
santygrass wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:27 am Well, I'm not. So Skill Issue there 😤
santygrass wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:51 am
Seanzie wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:46 am

What is your read on me? How do you think I'm approaching the game?
The way you treated your vote / approach feels natural atm, but its not something I can do much atm
santygrass wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:56 am To reply more to the approach part.

Feel like an approach that doesnt care to *explain* much why they think some stuff? And a kinda bold but not loud one.

I mostly refer to this with being kinda lurking and be obvious about it, how you vote but not make much of a push, and it feels *natural* because it is in lin with how you just put the colored list and also dont care to give explanations about ut.

So looking at the string of posts I see how the approach adds up and feels good, but not so much of how many is alignment indicative.

Like, the way you said 'I would vote santy rn' without voting me felt pretty based. And then you ended voting me. That felt kinda towny to me, but at the same time could be a misread and that just being your playstyle. Because at the end you are voting towm there /shrug
Read these posts and tell me this person does not know I'm town.

They are bending over backwards to find a way to cast my approach as "natural" without ever considering for a second that I'm a wolf trying to make them wolfprey.

"part of me just wants to ignore Seanzie" aka they do not consider my push on them possibly coming from a wolf, instead they just want to dismiss an incorrect townie.

"skill issue there" they do not consider that I could be purposefully reading them mafia to get them to flip, they only consider that I might be a wrong townie with a skill issue.

The final post I quote, almost every sentence is "Seanzie is townie, but I don't want to say that out loud".

They clearly know I'm town, and the fact that they do not include me in their towreads makes it so this is TMI.
@Lilypetal here. the perspective is quite comprehensive & to my eyes it looks like they actually believe this, so I'd be interested in what you think about this

also while scrolling through the ISO I saw them shielding Belzy. didn't read enough to figure out why/if it's still a thing, but it might interest you
It's interesting for sure. I'll keep this in mind ty
What do you think about it?
I don't know if he believes it tbh. A wolf could very easily make that post. I believe santy is a villager so I don't think the contents have too many merits anyhow
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what makes you think that?

but yeah, I wasn't really talking about the santy side, only seans perspective here
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Hello, everyone! This is your captain speaking!

Days are supposed to be 48 hours, and nights are 24 hours. I see the poll is all wrong, and I apologise profoundly, to the point of embarrassment. I honestly have no idea how that happened.

The countdown in the start of day post is correct. I will have to adjust the time in the poll, and I'm not sure if I can do that without all the votes disappearing. I have taken screenshots of the current poll. The existing votes will all be counted going forward in the day, even if they should disappear.

Never mind. I was able to correct it. Please note that "2 days" actually means "1 day" to the syndicate site poll function grumble grumble.

I am very sorry for the confusion.

Again: Days are 48 hours. It will be announced if this changes!

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current votes

Alison - Ender, cham, santy, neon, nanook
cham - dya
dya - mac
milly - sean
rondo - illario, rondo
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also, I had a sudden bout of regret for not doing it when I thought day was ending soon, so lets do it!

premise:
mafia chose to take away your choice to vote me.
this is likely for reasons people have said and that I think sound reasonable!
you don't like that. I don't like that either.
so let's do a little thing:
I wanna make myself a focus for the day by force!

let's divide thread into two sides.
Team Let's-Ml-Tilg-D3
and Team Let's-Not-Do-That

fun thing?
you can't exe me today anyways, so it doesn't matter too much which side you choose.
this is about reasoning & making yourself readable, and about not letting mafia choose what town does or doesn't get to do.

so to that effect, what I want from you is:

- Pick a side. either is fine.

- Explain why you picked the side you did. am I sus, why? am I not sus enough, why? am I town, why?

- Don't forget that you'll have to vote somebody out in 28 hours. you're welcome to use this and people's reasoning for that, but keep in mind it's not about which side people chose, it's about the reasoning they provide. town can be wrong, and mafia can be right!

- let's have fun. I'll be honest, I kinda enjoy this situation, even though this is most likely a super ego play right here. And regardless of what side you're on, we're currently playing a game together, so I hope you all are having fun too!
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Tilgarial wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 3:50 pm also, I had a sudden bout of regret for not doing it when I thought day was ending soon, so lets do it!

premise:
mafia chose to take away your choice to vote me.
this is likely for reasons people have said and that I think sound reasonable!
you don't like that. I don't like that either.
so let's do a little thing:
I wanna make myself a focus for the day by force!

let's divide thread into two sides.
Team Let's-Ml-Tilga-D3
and Team Let's-Not-Do-That

fun thing?
you can't exe me today anyways, so it doesn't matter too much which side you choose.
this is about reasoning & making yourself readable, and about not letting mafia choose what town does or doesn't get to do.

so to that effect, what I want from you is:

- Pick a side. either is fine.

- Explain why you picked the side you did. am I sus, why? am I not sus enough, why? am I town, why?

- Don't forget that you'll have to vote somebody out in 28 hours. you're welcome to use this and people's reasoning for that, but keep in mind it's not about which side people chose, it's about the reasoning they provide. town can be wrong, and mafia can be right!

- let's have fun. I'll be honest, I kinda enjoy this situation, even though this is most likely a super ego play right here. And regardless of what side you're on, we're currently playing a game together, so I hope you all are having fun too!
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@RondoDimBuckle
@santygrass
@Seanzie

ask me questions, chopose a side!
I'll be doing my best to get answers to any questions you have for me, even if I do not currently have them, so ask away. ask what you need to make your choice, ask what you want to know.
I firmly believe this is a pro-town move, even if I end up being the D3 exe.
Thank you for participating!
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Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [Day 2]

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Tilgarial wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 3:58 pm
Tilgarial wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 3:50 pm also, I had a sudden bout of regret for not doing it when I thought day was ending soon, so lets do it!

premise:
mafia chose to take away your choice to vote me.
this is likely for reasons people have said and that I think sound reasonable!
you don't like that. I don't like that either.
so let's do a little thing:
I wanna make myself a focus for the day by force!

let's divide thread into two sides.
Team Let's-Ml-Tilga-D3
and Team Let's-Not-Do-That

fun thing?
you can't exe me today anyways, so it doesn't matter too much which side you choose.
this is about reasoning & making yourself readable, and about not letting mafia choose what town does or doesn't get to do.

so to that effect, what I want from you is:

- Pick a side. either is fine.

- Explain why you picked the side you did. am I sus, why? am I not sus enough, why? am I town, why?

- Don't forget that you'll have to vote somebody out in 28 hours. you're welcome to use this and people's reasoning for that, but keep in mind it's not about which side people chose, it's about the reasoning they provide. town can be wrong, and mafia can be right!

- let's have fun. I'll be honest, I kinda enjoy this situation, even though this is most likely a super ego play right here. And regardless of what side you're on, we're currently playing a game together, so I hope you all are having fun too!
@Alison
@Belzy
@Chamomile
@dyachei
@EnderWiggin
@ilario
@Lilypetal
@MacDougall
@Millium
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@Neon
@Porscha
@RondoDimBuckle
@santygrass
@Seanzie

ask me questions, chopose a side!
I'll be doing my best to get answers to any questions you have for me, even if I do not currently have them, so ask away. ask what you need to make your choice, ask what you want to know.
I firmly believe this is a pro-town move, even if I end up being the D3 exe.
Thank you for participating!
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