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Nobody enjoys nightmares. Rondo. You idiot
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Porscha wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:52 am I on the other hand am contemplating if I'm better off trying for a 1 hour nap before work or just... staying up
my writing will still be here when you wake up
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Porscha wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:53 am Nobody enjoys nightmares. Rondo. You idiot
I do
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Now there is an outside chance that the wolves have killed specifically to shade Aro but since he hasnt brought it up I am going to say frozen
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RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:54 am
Porscha wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:53 am Nobody enjoys nightmares. Rondo. You idiot
I do
I knew you were going to say this and I was already mad your liar
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@Lilypetal @Porscha

What are your thoughts on Voting Aro into SPF to solidify the worldview so there is no way to undo what has been done and if we lose we lose? Is that a Scummy thing to ask?
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Porscha wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:56 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:54 am
Porscha wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:53 am Nobody enjoys nightmares. Rondo. You idiot
I do
I knew you were going to say this and I was already mad your liar
No I have a heavy horror aspect to my DND games at times and its great fuel
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RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:57 am @Lilypetal @Porscha

What are your thoughts on Voting Aro into SPF to solidify the worldview so there is no way to undo what has been done and if we lose we lose? Is that a Scummy thing to ask?
No it's a dumb thing to ask for though
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RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:58 am
Porscha wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:56 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:54 am
Porscha wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:53 am Nobody enjoys nightmares. Rondo. You idiot
I do
I knew you were going to say this and I was already mad your liar
No I have a heavy horror aspect to my DND games at times and its great fuel
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Re: King of the Hill Mafia

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Alison wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:54 pm
Creature wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:40 pm I confess I am getting a bit concerned about staypositivefriend, especially in the world both Lilypetal and Seanzie are town.
I was a wolf in the spec chat invitational but my post there about how to read SPF D1 was genuine and I'd endorse it this game.
Alison rolls wolf a lot.
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Porscha wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:59 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:57 am @Lilypetal @Porscha

What are your thoughts on Voting Aro into SPF to solidify the worldview so there is no way to undo what has been done and if we lose we lose? Is that a Scummy thing to ask?
No it's a dumb thing to ask for though
can you spell it out for me why?
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RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:00 am
Porscha wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:59 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:57 am @Lilypetal @Porscha

What are your thoughts on Voting Aro into SPF to solidify the worldview so there is no way to undo what has been done and if we lose we lose? Is that a Scummy thing to ask?
No it's a dumb thing to ask for though
can you spell it out for me why?
Cuz if we believe spf is undoubtedly wolf then idc about going to lylo with a strong starting read instead of gambling all or nothing today on a less certain slot
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This is going to sound Scuffed as well but I am not going to post my Aro quotes that I have been gathering this whole time. I have a tell that I am excited to use on him next game and I would like to preserve it
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Porscha wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:02 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:00 am
Porscha wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:59 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:57 am @Lilypetal @Porscha

What are your thoughts on Voting Aro into SPF to solidify the worldview so there is no way to undo what has been done and if we lose we lose? Is that a Scummy thing to ask?
No it's a dumb thing to ask for though
can you spell it out for me why?
Cuz if we believe spf is undoubtedly wolf then idc about going to lylo with a strong starting read instead of gambling all or nothing today on a less certain slot
So you think Lily could be wolf?
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And tbf I wanna see what aro has to say tomorrow so despite what I may think of his slot right now I've got a vote hot n ready for alison
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I have such an [REDACTED] on Aro right now
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RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:02 am
Porscha wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:02 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:00 am
Porscha wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:59 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:57 am @Lilypetal @Porscha

What are your thoughts on Voting Aro into SPF to solidify the worldview so there is no way to undo what has been done and if we lose we lose? Is that a Scummy thing to ask?
No it's a dumb thing to ask for though
can you spell it out for me why?
Cuz if we believe spf is undoubtedly wolf then idc about going to lylo with a strong starting read instead of gambling all or nothing today on a less certain slot
So you think Lily could be wolf?
In some fucked up world ya
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Re: King of the Hill Mafia

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Porscha wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:03 am And tbf I wanna see what aro has to say tomorrow so despite what I may think of his slot right now I've got a vote hot n ready for alison
Alsion?
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Re: King of the Hill Mafia

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RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:03 am I have such an [REDACTED] on Aro right now
You're being naughty
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Porscha wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:03 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:02 am
Porscha wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:02 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:00 am
Porscha wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:59 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:57 am @Lilypetal @Porscha

What are your thoughts on Voting Aro into SPF to solidify the worldview so there is no way to undo what has been done and if we lose we lose? Is that a Scummy thing to ask?
No it's a dumb thing to ask for though
can you spell it out for me why?
Cuz if we believe spf is undoubtedly wolf then idc about going to lylo with a strong starting read instead of gambling all or nothing today on a less certain slot
So you think Lily could be wolf?
In some fucked up world ya
I am trying to assure a foregone conclusion this doesnt help
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Re: King of the Hill Mafia

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RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:03 am
Porscha wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:03 am And tbf I wanna see what aro has to say tomorrow so despite what I may think of his slot right now I've got a vote hot n ready for alison
Alsion?
Oh boy today is gonna be rough if I'm already making these mistakes. I meant spf
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Re: King of the Hill Mafia

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MacDougall wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:05 pm
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MacDougall wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:02 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:59 pm
Porscha wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:44 pm ok jack what do you think of mac

i'm kinda just assuming he's in half retired shit post mode so i'm not taking his nonsense too serious as alignment indicative
Mac washed
haha yeah but I've somehow tilted Alison so that's cool
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Mac instigating lol

That seems unlike the Mac I have played with before that likes to keep a nice and refreshing threadstate lol
you don't know me well so I'd advise you just don't bother trying to meta read me at all
Interesting, how many games have you played with Mac Aro? Or perhaps you were coached?
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Re: King of the Hill Mafia

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RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:04 am
Porscha wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:03 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:02 am
Porscha wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:02 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:00 am
Porscha wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:59 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:57 am @Lilypetal @Porscha

What are your thoughts on Voting Aro into SPF to solidify the worldview so there is no way to undo what has been done and if we lose we lose? Is that a Scummy thing to ask?
No it's a dumb thing to ask for though
can you spell it out for me why?
Cuz if we believe spf is undoubtedly wolf then idc about going to lylo with a strong starting read instead of gambling all or nothing today on a less certain slot
So you think Lily could be wolf?
In some fucked up world ya
I am trying to assure a foregone conclusion this doesnt help
Sure, I'm down, I think right now its spf most likely aro
But unfortunately our day to day timelines dont seem to align so you're looking for the answer now while I'm willing to wait
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MacDougall wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:11 pm Mac's perspective on how Alison plays mafia and thus reads Alison

=/=

Mac's own behaviour

So what you're saying is apparently I'm suspicious for not applying my personal standards to how I read you?

Which is bogus and you're just a wolf lol.
Mac should have turboed this slot. SPF's doing
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Re: King of the Hill Mafia

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Ultimately even when I pushed aro yesterday I like the tone of his posts and he never said anything incorrect but he straight up didnt answer some of the more specific things I brought up in my posts and I kept that in mind
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MacDougall wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:14 pm
arogame123 wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:11 pm
MacDougall wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:07 pm
arogame123 wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:02 pm
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the way she is making matter of fact reads such as "these three players are town" with no reasoning offered, on slots it is sub optimal for Alison to be shielding because they are not >rand town slots anyway indicates Alison is not legitimately trying to sort alignments and is more interested in making people feel a way
This is an incredibly hypocritical post to make after you went "meh" and dipped when I tried to talk to you about the game... and it is doubly hypocritical to accuse me of throwing out matter of fact reads with no reasoning when you did the same yourself in your original post accusing me/lily/Seanzie of being wolves.

Have you never seen me give matter of fact reads and only explain reasoning when asked? Why are my townreads not >rand town?
hypocrisy is nai and you know it so fixating on this is very scummy for someone who purports to only do gto and rational things
Wait, you pushed on Punchy in our mash game for being hypocritcal with how they were solving certain slots lol?
Why do you think hypocricy is nai here?
hypocrisy is if anything town indicative and also this entire line of inquisition is bogus and nobody will care and does nothing pro town to engage with
Well I brought it up cause I remember you pushed on Punchy in our mash game for pointing out certain inconsisties/being hypocritical, so I was wondering why you said it was NAI here, when you used that thought to push on someone in Mash when you were town.

I am trying to analyze the way you push people and why you think it's NAI here when you used that tactic to push on someone in a previous game we played.
pushing on Punchy for doing things that subvert my expectations of town Punchy

pushing on Alison for doing things that subvert my expectations of town Alison

and you've arrived at it being sus

interdasting

either you have comprehension issues or you weren't actually trying to comprehend
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And I think it's possible to see that when I hard pushed a world state he would have tmi of being incorrect he was careful to dance around it
He was pushy about his sheeping playstyle which again isnt inaccurate necessarily but sleeping sleeping town flip after town flip he doubles down and says no he will sheep. So I believe he intended to sheep wilgy read on spf for cred and say he was being consistent by sheeping and now he has wolf pelt under belt via bus
But I was so literally so wrong he said okay fuck it maybe I dont need to follow the plan to bus cuz it saves spf another day and allowed me to lead away from spf and maybe makes me look bad if she still flips anyway. But I'm also a little surprised he didnt choose to still bus her with the way eod went down cuz I feel like w!aro would just bus for the cred

Also the wagon with spf and alison on aro while aro on alison with the remaining players alive I think is telling. Alison and spf had 0 plans on aro ever going over it was just distancing from Alison's inevitable flip
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Porscha wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:14 am And I think it's possible to see that when I hard pushed a world state he would have tmi of being incorrect he was careful to dance around it
He was pushy about his sheeping playstyle which again isnt inaccurate necessarily but sleeping sleeping town flip after town flip he doubles down and says no he will sheep. So I believe he intended to sheep wilgy read on spf for cred and say he was being consistent by sheeping and now he has wolf pelt under belt via bus
But I was so literally so wrong he said okay fuck it maybe I dont need to follow the plan to bus cuz it saves spf another day and allowed me to lead away from spf and maybe makes me look bad if she still flips anyway. But I'm also a little surprised he didnt choose to still bus her with the way eod went down cuz I feel like w!aro would just bus for the cred

Also the wagon with spf and alison on aro while aro on alison with the remaining players alive I think is telling. Alison and spf had 0 plans on aro ever going over it was just distancing from Alison's inevitable flip
Anything that says sleeping is supposed to be sheeping I swear I fixed it zzz
Also this post is referring to aro
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Day 1 Alison lynch was pure if Porscha is town
Day 2 Alison and SPF and Lily are on Creature - Aro and Porscha on Alison.
Day 3 Aro was counter wagon to Alison. Aro on Alison, SPF and Alison and Wilgy on Aro. Porsch was alsi on Alison, Lily was sleeping
Day 4 Aro and SPF on Boq not on SPF, Aro was pivotal to saving her life
Day 5 Lily is on SPF, Once again Aro is on Boq with SPF and Porscha as well
Day 6 We all know where Aro and SPF landed
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lol both of us doing vote analysis in my ISO
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arogame123 wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:26 pm
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staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:03 pm
arogame123 wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 12:35 pm Also, I didn’t mention it earlier and but I have a slight tr Lucy more so because I feel like just like me, they are motivated to be better and are attempting to learn how different people play in this game and use their past knowledge to apply it in this game.

I will admit that this is more pro-town from Lucy and though I haven’t seen her mafia game, I’m inclined to give her a slight tr for how she’s come into the game so far.

Additionally, I liked her response to Nanook about questioning why they were on the list. Thought it was funny lol. Good sense of humor.
also wouldn't lucy be motivated to use her knowledge to improve the way she's playing regardless of her alignment? have you seen any evidence of her specifically using her experiences from the last game to inform her reads from this game? if not then it feels like you're townreading lucy for stating the intention to play in a towny way and not because she is actually playing in a towny way
Yea, that's why I asked her about the WIM thing and then asked to look at her games. I briefly skimmed through some of them and so I dropped that read I had, as I realized it was kind of a "jump the gun."

That's why I prefaced it by "pro-town" and should have made it more clear.

But one example so far that she has been trying to use those reads to improve is on my slot for example. In response to ur post about "me being obv town" she discredited by referencing prev games about me and my range. So similar to what I was saying to u, I could see some critical thought there and not a "plain ez sheep" on reading me town as well.

But one thing I do want to me more careful about is just handing out free town reads and then letting mafia creep up in my town list because of a faulty early read. So when reading and seeing how people were discussing about how Neon felt mafia like to them from Boq and Alison. I realized that it is a bit unfair for me to give a read for "vibing with the thread" that early on especially in RVS when it is easier for mafia. So I will hold that read and wait to see how Neon performs and makes reads and stuff like that.

I also need to reread and catch up. But I am free for a bit incase anyone wants to realtime.
at what point did you drop your read on her? is this something that happened silently? i don't see any indication that you did in your ISO
I was more explicit when I came back but it was in my mind when I was briefly reading and catching up in the morning while sitting on the toilet. I was thinking how Boq came in and was adding the additional info about how "wolves wanting to vibe" was easier for wolves to do to "fit in", which was adding to your discussion. So throughout the day, I was pondering about that, and from past experience, I didn't want to get burned from handing out a free tr. However, I am not sr Neon, but more so just dropping that light tr.

I thought Boq's handling of Neon was townier than Alison's tho, where Alison seemed to be looking for every scummy thing from Neon and playing devil's advocate.
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staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:37 pm
arogame123 wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:19 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:15 pm
arogame123 wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:44 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:03 pm
arogame123 wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 12:35 pm Also, I didn’t mention it earlier and but I have a slight tr Lucy more so because I feel like just like me, they are motivated to be better and are attempting to learn how different people play in this game and use their past knowledge to apply it in this game.

I will admit that this is more pro-town from Lucy and though I haven’t seen her mafia game, I’m inclined to give her a slight tr for how she’s come into the game so far.

Additionally, I liked her response to Nanook about questioning why they were on the list. Thought it was funny lol. Good sense of humor.
also wouldn't lucy be motivated to use her knowledge to improve the way she's playing regardless of her alignment? have you seen any evidence of her specifically using her experiences from the last game to inform her reads from this game? if not then it feels like you're townreading lucy for stating the intention to play in a towny way and not because she is actually playing in a towny way
Yea, that's why I asked her about the WIM thing and then asked to look at her games. I briefly skimmed through some of them and so I dropped that read I had, as I realized it was kind of a "jump the gun."

That's why I prefaced it by "pro-town" and should have made it more clear.

But one example so far that she has been trying to use those reads to improve is on my slot for example. In response to ur post about "me being obv town" she discredited by referencing prev games about me and my range. So similar to what I was saying to u, I could see some critical thought there and not a "plain ez sheep" on reading me town as well.

But one thing I do want to me more careful about is just handing out free town reads and then letting mafia creep up in my town list because of a faulty early read. So when reading and seeing how people were discussing about how Neon felt mafia like to them from Boq and Alison. I realized that it is a bit unfair for me to give a read for "vibing with the thread" that early on especially in RVS when it is easier for mafia. So I will hold that read and wait to see how Neon performs and makes reads and stuff like that.

I also need to reread and catch up. But I am free for a bit incase anyone wants to realtime.
at what point did you drop your read on her? is this something that happened silently? i don't see any indication that you did in your ISO
I was more explicit when I came back but it was in my mind when I was briefly reading and catching up in the morning while sitting on the toilet. I was thinking how Boq came in and was adding the additional info about how "wolves wanting to vibe" was easier for wolves to do to "fit in", which was adding to your discussion. So throughout the day, I was pondering about that, and from past experience, I didn't want to get burned from handing out a free tr. However, I am not sr Neon, but more so just dropping that light tr.

I thought Boq's handling of Neon was townier than Alison's tho, where Alison seemed to be looking for every scummy thing from Neon and playing devil's advocate.
this is probably a bad read but i think it might be towny that you just gave me a reasonably complex thought process for why your read on lucy disappeared even though you have made zero posts in the thread up to this point that have indicated that you were paranoid/worried about townreading lucy too easily

i think that it implies that youre thinking about the game beyond the stuff that youre posting in the moment, which is a mindset that is uniquely difficult for wolves to get into
This is probably a bad read BUT
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Alison wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:39 pm @arogame123 Why did you choose to jump into the conversation between me and Mac about hypocrisy? I think most players would rather let us talk it out, since we have such a long history together.

If it isn't clear I'm wary that you're trying to pocket me by loudly Alisonsiding again, and attacking Mac when he attacks me is a good way to do that.
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arogame123 wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:42 pm
Alison wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:39 pm @arogame123 Why did you choose to jump into the conversation between me and Mac about hypocrisy? I think most players would rather let us talk it out, since we have such a long history together.

If it isn't clear I'm wary that you're trying to pocket me by loudly Alisonsiding again, and attacking Mac when he attacks me is a good way to do that.
Yes, because I am pocketing you when I have a slight sr on you lol

I didn't sr Mac either or defend you lol, so I don't know where you got that impression from.

And idk your history between you and Mac. When I see something, I want to interact with it and see what's up with it.

If you saw my earlier posts, I noticed Mac said something about hypocracy being NAI and thought it was interesting, since I saw him use that tactic to push on someone in our mafia game.

So I wanted to see why he thought hypocracy is NAI if he had used that idea to push on someone in our previous game that I played with him in mash where he was town.
ah yes the classical slight scum read on a player that will eventually flip wolf for the deep wolf
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Alison wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:46 pm
Lilypetal wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:45 pm
Alison wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:41 pm @Lilypetal What's your read on me? Who are your top suspects?
you seem v to me but i was speccing the spec chat game a bit so im also a bit more wary of you

i suppose i will just say null and then sheep a smarter player lol
This is a pretty hedgy response.

Do you have any scumreads?
Alison wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:45 pm
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Alison wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:39 pm @arogame123 Why did you choose to jump into the conversation between me and Mac about hypocrisy? I think most players would rather let us talk it out, since we have such a long history together.

If it isn't clear I'm wary that you're trying to pocket me by loudly Alisonsiding again, and attacking Mac when he attacks me is a good way to do that.
Yes, because I am pocketing you when I have a slight sr on you lol

I didn't sr Mac either or defend you lol, so I don't know where you got that impression from.

And idk your history between you and Mac. When I see something, I want to interact with it and see what's up with it.

If you saw my earlier posts, I noticed Mac said something about hypocracy being NAI and thought it was interesting, since I saw him use that tactic to push on someone in our mafia game.

So I wanted to see why he thought hypocracy is NAI if he had used that idea to push on someone in our previous game that I played with him in mash where he was town.
What's the cause of your SR on me? You've mentioned you felt I was treating Neon in an uncharitable way, but you've never really framed it as a real scumread.
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staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:05 pm
Lilypetal wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:04 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:55 pm
Lilypetal wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:53 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:48 pm hmm i dont want to put this in a rude way but lucy seems sad and withdrawn to me in a way that is quite distinct from any other games i've seen from her - like she has already thrown in the towel and is perfectly content with giving up. it's weird and it doesn't feel like the lucy i played the other games with

i suppose that it doesn't have to be alignment indicative though
this is absolutely WILD

our tones are different due to a bunch of different circumstances out of game or in game

im kinda having a bad past few days, maybe that's part of it? who knows! i'm not content with giving up though lol this game just began and I'm excited to flesh out my world view while I speak with some of my favorite mafia players.

but yeah posts like this are kinda demoralizing for me cuz it's like sheesh is my typing style/vibe that bad?
sorry! i really don't mean it in a rude way or to imply that your presence in this game is bad - i enjoy playing with you and was looking forward to playing with you in this game as well. you just seem tonally detached and disinteested from the game in a way that is totally distinct from the other games ive played with you

maybe it's me and not you though
in general i'd say i struggle day 1 and do better as the game goes on and like every game recently i've gotten shit for having a wolfy tone or "faking" hype or having TMI reads day 1 and it's like kinda tiring for me because like i know im town, all i've done is post how I normally do, and It's overanalyzed and brought up repeatedly and I expend a lot of energy trying to appear townier as to not get MLed rather than just getting to the meat of the game and solving alignments in a comfy "shes null" slot.

i am not saying this in anyway to discredit things said this game or make ppl feel bad cuz like it literally doesn't matter that much but if people want to understand where my head is at and why my tone is the way it is that is part of what's going through my head. I'm not disinterested or detached I've read every single post I have opinions I have reads and I wanna talk to ppl about the game though. ppl just confbias really hard and its annoying lol
alright. i have an idea, let's join a wagon together and see where it goes. u have my vote for the next 12 hours guaranteed

who do u want to vote rn?
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Neon wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:17 pm
Creature wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 1:25 pm
Creature wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 12:39 pm Alright the whole gang is here.

Looked good:

Alison
arogame123
Creature
falcon45ca
lucy
MissSparkles
staypositivefriend

Looked meh/null/dependent on flips:

Boquise
Jackoffhearts2005
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Neon
Porscha
Seanzie

Looked bad:

Lilypetal
MacDougall
Alright. Looked bad:

Lilypetal
MacDougall
Neon
Porscha

Thoughts?
Lock town all of these
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staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:23 pm lily if u did that as a wolf then i am actually quite impressed
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Alison wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:32 pm I am actually stuck in a quandary because I think Boq should get a D1 pass unless he is super outed which he isn't.

Lilypetal who has been a bit of an LHF slot this game is offered a chance to pick her vote and she picks Boq.

Two other people who should get a D1 pass (SPF and Mac) pile on Boq and support Lily's choice.

Normally I am like "ok so this push is bad so the people that piled on it with little accountability are probably also mafia"... except they have D1 passes themselves.

Maybe I give out D1 passes too easily. I don't think it's wrong to treat Boq/SPF/Mac like this though.
congrats on your day 1 pass SPF
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staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:34 pm maybe im getting pocketed by lily too easily lol, i just wasnt expecting her to vote a name that the majority of the thread had been townreading and who would be reasonably "scary" to go up against as a wolf and then explicitly ask me NOT to vote with her or join her on the wagon
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Alison wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:45 pm I think mafia is >rand to be coasting/slanking right now because this threadstate is ideal for it. There is a general sense of low energy, lots of people aren't playing much or are playing very shallowly (fluffy one liners and dip), and most players seem aimless. Even people like Mac and Seanzie who are usually WIM powerhouses don't seem motivated. This is the sort of game where people just kick back and eat popcorn in the mafia chat knowing they cannot be held accountable for doing nothing when half the game is.

So I am just gonna start killing slankers.
Yep, lets kill all those slankers

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Oh they are all town
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staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:53 pm https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ost6328624

maybe u didnt mean it in a meta-y way though
Alison wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:51 pm
lucy wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:47 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:47 pm
lucy wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:46 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:45 pm lucy do u have a read on me yet
why do u ask
no
i was wondering because u said something like: "spf is finally hitting her town notes" in the last game that gave off the vibe that you think u know how to read me
wasn't me I don't like
It was, I remember this line too. Start of the F7 day, I think.
lucy wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:48 pm I don't think
fuck
lucy wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:47 pm
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lucy wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:46 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:45 pm lucy do u have a read on me yet
why do u ask
no
i was wondering because u said something like: "spf is finally hitting her town notes" in the last game that gave off the vibe that you think u know how to read me
wasn't me I don't like
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Creature wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 10:33 pm Also giving players free D1 passes is shit. Always pressure them into doing something and get them lynched if they don't.
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MacDougall wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 11:31 pm there are players who are being all "look at me im a city" and probably are

such as Staypositivefriend, Arogame

then there are players who are like, just a city even though they are trying to look like a rainforest

such as Seanzie, Falcon, Neon

then there are players who straight up don't look like a city to me and don't seem like they can figure out how to even look like one and/or i can't even tell if they are trying to look like one

such as Lily, Porscha

then there are players who are trying really hard to look like a city but you can still see the ditto face

such as Alison and especially Creature

then there are players who aren't trying to do anything in particular and that makes probably a city but ya never know cuz that's just who they are

such as Nanook, Lucy

then there are players i actually haven't really tried to analyse

such as Boquise, Jack, MissSparkles
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Alison wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 11:41 pm
MacDougall wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 11:39 pm
Alison wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 11:37 pm If you think I am scum and you think I am pushing town slankers then you are necessarily suggesting that I can be read on results no?
Alison would you push to kill slankers as either alignment in this exact scenario?
I would, and when I am town those slankers would be a lot more likely to flip mafia.
I think if we change the game and put Mac as wolf and Alison as Town. Alison has to admit that going after slankers isnt the play anymore she just likes to use it as a gimmick to push town when she is mafia
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staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 11:53 pm i'm mixed on alison's actual content and am withholding judgement on her slot until i see results (ie: i think that she's probably town in a world where neon is mafia, and i perceive a world where neon is mafia to be a reasonable possibility). i wouldn't put her above anything other than null right now

aro has had a few moments that raised my eyebrows and i am mildly worried about clearing him too easily, but i think that his overall depth of thought/the complexity behind his thought processes/the way he is going after multiple people without seeming to care how he is perceived by others (ie: him pressuring me/mac), and the general way he has been flip-flopping between multiple views at once all make me feel like he is probably just town that is not burdened with TMI

in a similar sense, i think that the "messiness" of boq's scumhunting (like him accusing seanzie and then accusing lucy back to back and then nitpicking my read on seanzie even as he was positioning himself to push on seanzie) is likely to be town indicative i for him. i will note that i do not really know how to read boq's specific playstyle but i do not take any real issue with his posts and i would not be interested in killing him today unless he gets significantly wolfier

i've waffled back and forth on creature a couple of times but i think that he's likely to be town. i've seen creature as a wolf exactly once and he was good at making posts that felt towny In The Moment but his overall solving/investment in playing was weak and it was obvious that he was playing from a position of TMI. i dont really feel the same way about his play here - he has been ebbing and flowing in his reads (like jumping btwn being paranoid of me then townreading me for scumreading lily and then getting paranoid of me again) in a way that makes me feel like he is probably uninformed

i do not know how to read falcon and i hate the majority of the posts that he has made today, if i'm being blunt. i would not kill him because alison feels strongly that he is town and she is likely either correct or correctly TMI'ing him as a villager

the few posts jack has made have been pretty rough but i would like to give him a chance to get his head into the game before i make any judgement calls

i thought lily started off looking kind of awful but then she responded extremely well to my pressure on her to the extent that i find it very difficult to see her being mafia. i also generally like how her tone/overall attitude shifted once i pressured her and i found it very believable

lucy i don't really know. i was getting townvibes from her last night but it's mostly just because she felt relaxed in the thread. i struggle to read her playstyle and i do not realistically think anything she has done is alignment indicative

mac feels kind of directionless and lost in comparison to most towngames ive seen from him but i think he's still posting in a way that is closer to his towngame than his wolfgame. if he is town then i expect this read to grow with confidence as the game goes on because i am reasonably confident in my ability to read mac correctly

i thought miss sparkles accusing nanook of TMI'ing her was like kind of maybe towny but then it had diminishing returns the more she posted about it and she hasn't posted anything else i find alignment indicaitve

i don't really think nook has towntold but i also anticipate that i'll be able to find him in the near future if he is town

neon's posts are very bad and i think it's possible she is just a frozen wolf and the sole amount of ppl who are pushing on her makes me think the wolves might be trying to get bus cred because they think she's going to flip in the near future. i don't have much else to say about her and think my time is best spent exploring elsewhere rn

porscha hasn't really towntold at all but also idk how to read her

seanzie had an awkward start but then he started towntelling for reasons i explained on p#518 and dont feel like typing again
Oh no Alison is mixed, but she is null ok dont read into this

Aro is bad! BAD Aro! But he is probably town

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staypositivefriend wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 11:59 pm mac if neon is town then who do u think we should kill today
what a good look for you [/s]
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Re: King of the Hill Mafia

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staypositivefriend wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 1:00 am
lucy wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:30 am @spf do you think I eventually become obvious later on, alignment wise, or am I difficult to read the entire game?

yeah, so basically you and Mac should enter parley and scum hunt
your specific playstyle is difficult for me to read but i do think that you become easier to read with time. i barely knew how to read you in spiritfarer but then figured out you were town on like ~d4 and then the exact same thing happened in the last game we played

so if you're town then i anticipate i will be able to find you correctly by d4
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staypositivefriend wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 1:01 am [VOTE: porscha] aubergine
good look for Porscha
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Lilypetal wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 2:30 am
Neon wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 2:16 am Mac only has 7 posts left. Who will defend me from all the meanie butts when you are gone Mac.
I'll defend you neon. all you had to say was ur doing a different playstyle lol and it makes sense

it just came off like u didnt care but i will pay more attention and I'm sorry for slightly doubting you
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