Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [END]

[MacDougall]

All three things you accused me of doing are extremely obviously correct to do in mountainous games. You are literally scumreading me for being townie.

You think that it's correct on day 1 of a mountainous game to ignore everything you know about a player in order to chop them for being superficially wolfy?

Get this through your head. No aspect of my meta knowledge of NAA has led me to believe that he would do these things as town. If anything my meta on NAA directly indicates he is scum because he is usually careful to put his vote on a position that helps him the most and here he is flagrantly abusing it towards anti town ends.

Do what things?

Vote me, you and Seanzie.

Get this through your head. No aspect of my meta knowledge of NAA has led me to believe that he would vote Alison, Mac and Seanzie.

This is the single least true thing anyone has ever said about him.

[NotAnAxehole]

Sabi, anti town

[NotAnAxehole]

EVERYBODY IS ANTITOWN BUT ME!

[robyn]

All three things you accused me of doing are extremely obviously correct to do in mountainous games. You are literally scumreading me for being townie.

You think that it's correct on day 1 of a mountainous game to ignore everything you know about a player in order to chop them for being superficially wolfy?

Get this through your head. No aspect of my meta knowledge of NAA has led me to believe that he would do these things as town. If anything my meta on NAA directly indicates he is scum because he is usually careful to put his vote on a position that helps him the most and here he is flagrantly abusing it towards anti town ends.

Do what things?

Vote me, you and Seanzie.

So, are Mac and Falcon also anti-town? And Seanzie, he's voting Mac?

straw man

[Alison]

All three things you accused me of doing are extremely obviously correct to do in mountainous games. You are literally scumreading me for being townie.

You think that it's correct on day 1 of a mountainous game to ignore everything you know about a player in order to chop them for being superficially wolfy?

Get this through your head. No aspect of my meta knowledge of NAA has led me to believe that he would do these things as town. If anything my meta on NAA directly indicates he is scum because he is usually careful to put his vote on a position that helps him the most and here he is flagrantly abusing it towards anti town ends.

Do what things?

Vote me, you and Seanzie.

So, are Mac and Falcon also anti-town? And Seanzie, he's voting Mac?

Yes, Mac is currently going down a very bad direction with his solving. Seanzie and Falcon are fine.

My problem is not that you scumread someone I know or believe to be town. My problem is that you have done nothing but that all game.

[MacDougall]

Voting you, Mac and Seanzie (sans context) is absolutely not reason enough to say he's not in his townrange. You've been caught bullshitting. Now what?

[NotAnAxehole]

All three things you accused me of doing are extremely obviously correct to do in mountainous games. You are literally scumreading me for being townie.

You think that it's correct on day 1 of a mountainous game to ignore everything you know about a player in order to chop them for being superficially wolfy?

Get this through your head. No aspect of my meta knowledge of NAA has led me to believe that he would do these things as town. If anything my meta on NAA directly indicates he is scum because he is usually careful to put his vote on a position that helps him the most and here he is flagrantly abusing it towards anti town ends.

Do what things?

Vote me, you and Seanzie.

So, are Mac and Falcon also anti-town? And Seanzie, he's voting Mac?

Yes, Mac is currently going down a very bad direction with his solving. Seanzie and Falcon are fine.

My problem is not that you scumread someone I know or believe to be town. My problem is that you have done nothing but that all game.

Ok, Seanzie and Falcon have done something other than their (according to you)... Bad reads?

[Alison]

All three things you accused me of doing are extremely obviously correct to do in mountainous games. You are literally scumreading me for being townie.

You think that it's correct on day 1 of a mountainous game to ignore everything you know about a player in order to chop them for being superficially wolfy?

Get this through your head. No aspect of my meta knowledge of NAA has led me to believe that he would do these things as town. If anything my meta on NAA directly indicates he is scum because he is usually careful to put his vote on a position that helps him the most and here he is flagrantly abusing it towards anti town ends.

Do what things?

Vote me, you and Seanzie.

Get this through your head. No aspect of my meta knowledge of NAA has led me to believe that he would vote Alison, Mac and Seanzie.

This is the single least true thing anyone has ever said about him.

I strongly believe that a town NAA would not make those votes.

[MacDougall]

All three things you accused me of doing are extremely obviously correct to do in mountainous games. You are literally scumreading me for being townie.

You think that it's correct on day 1 of a mountainous game to ignore everything you know about a player in order to chop them for being superficially wolfy?

Get this through your head. No aspect of my meta knowledge of NAA has led me to believe that he would do these things as town. If anything my meta on NAA directly indicates he is scum because he is usually careful to put his vote on a position that helps him the most and here he is flagrantly abusing it towards anti town ends.

Do what things?

Vote me, you and Seanzie.

So, are Mac and Falcon also anti-town? And Seanzie, he's voting Mac?

Yes, Mac is currently going down a very bad direction with his solving. Seanzie and Falcon are fine.

My problem is not that you scumread someone I know or believe to be town. My problem is that you have done nothing but that all game.

You forgot the townie bit. "But Mac does that all the time and ultimately reevaluates correctly so I'm not worried."

Probably because that sentence does nothing to benefit your wolf agenda.

[NotAnAxehole]

All three things you accused me of doing are extremely obviously correct to do in mountainous games. You are literally scumreading me for being townie.

You think that it's correct on day 1 of a mountainous game to ignore everything you know about a player in order to chop them for being superficially wolfy?

Get this through your head. No aspect of my meta knowledge of NAA has led me to believe that he would do these things as town. If anything my meta on NAA directly indicates he is scum because he is usually careful to put his vote on a position that helps him the most and here he is flagrantly abusing it towards anti town ends.

Do what things?

Vote me, you and Seanzie.

So, are Mac and Falcon also anti-town? And Seanzie, he's voting Mac?

straw man

I'm just trying to understand how bloated Alison's head is to think that the holy ground she walks on can't be touched.

[Alison]

[VOTE: lucy] aubergine
[VOTE: NotAnAxehole] aubergine

Going to park my vote on the mafia team.

[NotAnAxehole]

[VOTE: lucy] aubergine
[VOTE: NotAnAxehole] aubergine

Going to park my vote on the mafia team.

Nothing to say but I actually laughed out loud.

[MacDougall]

You think that it's correct on day 1 of a mountainous game to ignore everything you know about a player in order to chop them for being superficially wolfy?

Get this through your head. No aspect of my meta knowledge of NAA has led me to believe that he would do these things as town. If anything my meta on NAA directly indicates he is scum because he is usually careful to put his vote on a position that helps him the most and here he is flagrantly abusing it towards anti town ends.

Do what things?

Vote me, you and Seanzie.

Get this through your head. No aspect of my meta knowledge of NAA has led me to believe that he would vote Alison, Mac and Seanzie.

This is the single least true thing anyone has ever said about him.

I strongly believe that a town NAA would not make those votes.

Why?

[Alison]

You think that it's correct on day 1 of a mountainous game to ignore everything you know about a player in order to chop them for being superficially wolfy?

Get this through your head. No aspect of my meta knowledge of NAA has led me to believe that he would do these things as town. If anything my meta on NAA directly indicates he is scum because he is usually careful to put his vote on a position that helps him the most and here he is flagrantly abusing it towards anti town ends.

Do what things?

Vote me, you and Seanzie.

So, are Mac and Falcon also anti-town? And Seanzie, he's voting Mac?

Yes, Mac is currently going down a very bad direction with his solving. Seanzie and Falcon are fine.

My problem is not that you scumread someone I know or believe to be town. My problem is that you have done nothing but that all game.

You forgot the townie bit. "But Mac does that all the time and ultimately reevaluates correctly so I'm not worried."

Probably because that sentence does nothing to benefit your wolf agenda.

I have repeatedly said you were town and have not expressed an iota of interest in voting you. I just think you're wrong which you admit you are as town all the time.

[robyn]

[VOTE: lucy] aubergine
[VOTE: NotAnAxehole] aubergine

Going to park my vote on the mafia team.

0/2

[Porscha]

she should not die

snooze cruise

[MacDougall]

You think that it's correct on day 1 of a mountainous game to ignore everything you know about a player in order to chop them for being superficially wolfy?

Get this through your head. No aspect of my meta knowledge of NAA has led me to believe that he would do these things as town. If anything my meta on NAA directly indicates he is scum because he is usually careful to put his vote on a position that helps him the most and here he is flagrantly abusing it towards anti town ends.

Do what things?

Vote me, you and Seanzie.

So, are Mac and Falcon also anti-town? And Seanzie, he's voting Mac?

straw man

I'm just trying to understand how bloated Alison's head is to think that the holy ground she walks on can't be touched.

About 5 minutes ago I was thinking "we're just about at the point where Starv says something really mean and turns his camera off in anger".

[MacDougall]

Get this through your head. No aspect of my meta knowledge of NAA has led me to believe that he would do these things as town. If anything my meta on NAA directly indicates he is scum because he is usually careful to put his vote on a position that helps him the most and here he is flagrantly abusing it towards anti town ends.

Do what things?

Vote me, you and Seanzie.

So, are Mac and Falcon also anti-town? And Seanzie, he's voting Mac?

Yes, Mac is currently going down a very bad direction with his solving. Seanzie and Falcon are fine.

My problem is not that you scumread someone I know or believe to be town. My problem is that you have done nothing but that all game.

You forgot the townie bit. "But Mac does that all the time and ultimately reevaluates correctly so I'm not worried."

Probably because that sentence does nothing to benefit your wolf agenda.

I have repeatedly said you were town and have not expressed an iota of interest in voting you. I just think you're wrong which you admit you are as town all the time.

This time you added the bit that benefits your wolf agenda.

[robyn]

she should not die

snooze cruise

something something my reads are better than Alison's

[Porscha]

mac (if he dies early lol)

alison/Axe
sabi
seanzie
achro

falcon (null)

wigly/Porscha

I hate the fuck out of this solve coming from your fivehead ass.

???????

your solves are usually much more creative than whatever has got you to this point

that's cause this is forced lmao, I will revise later

why did you force it? you denied the force request earlier in the game but now you'll just willy nilly throw one out and say it's trash b/c it's forced? why bother forcing it then

[Alison]

Why?

1) It is extremely bad for town to make those votes. Like if I had to pick three people to be my only votes all game and wanted to find the most anti town slots to put those votes on it would be that exact three.
2) NAA would know 1).
3) Therefore he would not make those votes as town.

[robyn]

mac (if he dies early lol)

alison/Axe
sabi
seanzie
achro

falcon (null)

wigly/Porscha

I hate the fuck out of this solve coming from your fivehead ass.

???????

your solves are usually much more creative than whatever has got you to this point

that's cause this is forced lmao, I will revise later

why did you force it? you denied the force request earlier in the game but now you'll just willy nilly throw one out and say it's trash b/c it's forced? why bother forcing it then

read the start of the game and most of achro's messages, thanks

[NotAnAxehole]

Get this through your head. No aspect of my meta knowledge of NAA has led me to believe that he would do these things as town. If anything my meta on NAA directly indicates he is scum because he is usually careful to put his vote on a position that helps him the most and here he is flagrantly abusing it towards anti town ends.

Do what things?

Vote me, you and Seanzie.

So, are Mac and Falcon also anti-town? And Seanzie, he's voting Mac?

straw man

I'm just trying to understand how bloated Alison's head is to think that the holy ground she walks on can't be touched.

About 5 minutes ago I was thinking "we're just about at the point where Starv says something really mean and turns his camera off in anger".

When did I say something mean?

[robyn]

do explain ur read on me @Alison

[NotAnAxehole]

she should not die

snooze cruise

something something my reads are better than Alison's

I don't understand how you and mac are giving the reason why Alison should die and not killing her for it.

[Porscha]

yeah no this is pretty townie from Alison

You're just biased

aren't you more biased?

I mean, you can do a meta dive, I've never once killed someone on site because I dislike them, and god knows I dislike a few people in this community.

and I've never shielded a person I've liked

oh since youre SR'ing me you like me? so sweet of you lucy

[robyn]

she should not die

snooze cruise

something something my reads are better than Alison's

I don't understand how you and mac are giving the reason why Alison should die and not killing her for it.

that wasn't a reason to blast her lmao

[NotAnAxehole]

she should not die

snooze cruise

something something my reads are better than Alison's

I don't understand how you and mac are giving the reason why Alison should die and not killing her for it.

that wasn't a reason to blast her lmao

I mean, if meta is any indication, yes it is...

[MacDougall]

Why?

1) It is extremely bad for town to make those votes. Like if I had to pick three people to be my only votes all game and wanted to find the most anti town slots to put those votes on it would be that exact three.
2) NAA would know 1).
3) Therefore he would not make those votes as town.

1) The majority of the players in this game have voted for me at one point or another. I have also voted for seanzie along with several others. Also many people have voted you. Given at least several town have voted on all three of us at some point i think it's asinine to assume that it's beyond the town mindset to vote one of us three. I am beyond certain that if Axehole was/is town here that he would not be viewing voting you or me as anti town behaviour even if he fucken townread us!

This is literally why I am cannot reconcile you as town here.

[Alison]

[VOTE: lucy] aubergine
[VOTE: NotAnAxehole] aubergine

Going to park my vote on the mafia team.

0/2

It beggars belief that you are simultaneously this aware of how scummy NAA's play is and also willing to defend him for no reason beyond "too wolfy to be wolf" while also locktowning me for totally random stuff after being snowed by me in our last game together.

I think you are positioning yourself for maximum cred while not doing anything to actually help.

[robyn]

yeah no this is pretty townie from Alison

You're just biased

aren't you more biased?

I mean, you can do a meta dive, I've never once killed someone on site because I dislike them, and god knows I dislike a few people in this community.

and I've never shielded a person I've liked

oh since youre SR'ing me you like me? so sweet of you lucy

I believe you're scum, that's mutually exclusive when considering my thoughts about someone

[NotAnAxehole]

I reacted to Alison's reads when she came into the thread and how limp they were, many people have also called out the reads as being bad, BUT I'M CRAZY for voting ALISON?

[MacDougall]

she should not die

snooze cruise

something something my reads are better than Alison's

I don't understand how you and mac are giving the reason why Alison should die and not killing her for it.

When does day end? Is it in 5 minutes?

[NotAnAxehole]

I'm anti-town for having the most logical reaction to bad Alison D1?

[MacDougall]

I reacted to Alison's reads when she came into the thread and how limp they were, many people have also called out the reads as being bad, BUT I'M CRAZY for voting ALISON?

Who is saying that?

[Alison]

Why?

1) It is extremely bad for town to make those votes. Like if I had to pick three people to be my only votes all game and wanted to find the most anti town slots to put those votes on it would be that exact three.
2) NAA would know 1).
3) Therefore he would not make those votes as town.

1) The majority of the players in this game have voted for me at one point or another. I have also voted for seanzie along with several others. Also many people have voted you. Given at least several town have voted on all three of us at some point i think it's asinine to assume that it's beyond the town mindset to vote one of us three. I am beyond certain that if Axehole was/is town here that he would not be viewing voting you or me as anti town behaviour even if he fucken townread us!

This is literally why I am cannot reconcile you as town here.

Having one bad read means you made a mistake. Having nothing but bad reads probably means you are wolfing.

NAA falls into the latter category.

[robyn]

[VOTE: lucy] aubergine
[VOTE: NotAnAxehole] aubergine

Going to park my vote on the mafia team.

0/2

It beggars belief that you are simultaneously this aware of how scummy NAA's play is and also willing to defend him for no reason beyond "too wolfy to be wolf" while also locktowning me for totally random stuff after being snowed by me in our last game together.

I think you are positioning yourself for maximum cred while not doing anything to actually help.

question: if I flip town will you see me as a stronger player for doing all of this which you find "too correct"?

[NotAnAxehole]

she should not die

snooze cruise

something something my reads are better than Alison's

I don't understand how you and mac are giving the reason why Alison should die and not killing her for it.

When does day end? Is it in 5 minutes?

I mean, Lucy outright said she wouldn't kill Alison and you've maintained a town read on Alison through much of the questioning (albeit wavering)

[robyn]

[VOTE: lucy] aubergine
[VOTE: NotAnAxehole] aubergine

Going to park my vote on the mafia team.

0/2

It beggars belief that you are simultaneously this aware of how scummy NAA's play is and also willing to defend him for no reason beyond "too wolfy to be wolf" while also locktowning me for totally random stuff after being snowed by me in our last game together.

I think you are positioning yourself for maximum cred while not doing anything to actually help.

and I'm soft defending u rn

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: unvote seanzie] aubergine

[VOTE: alison] aubergine

[NotAnAxehole]

Why?

1) It is extremely bad for town to make those votes. Like if I had to pick three people to be my only votes all game and wanted to find the most anti town slots to put those votes on it would be that exact three.
2) NAA would know 1).
3) Therefore he would not make those votes as town.

1) The majority of the players in this game have voted for me at one point or another. I have also voted for seanzie along with several others. Also many people have voted you. Given at least several town have voted on all three of us at some point i think it's asinine to assume that it's beyond the town mindset to vote one of us three. I am beyond certain that if Axehole was/is town here that he would not be viewing voting you or me as anti town behaviour even if he fucken townread us!

This is literally why I am cannot reconcile you as town here.

Having one bad read means you made a mistake. Having nothing but bad reads probably means you are wolfing.

NAA falls into the latter category.

@lucy See, Alison agrees that you should vote her with me.

[NotAnAxehole]

Having nothing but bad reads probably means you are wolfing.

Specifically this part.

[Alison]

[VOTE: lucy] aubergine
[VOTE: NotAnAxehole] aubergine

Going to park my vote on the mafia team.

0/2

It beggars belief that you are simultaneously this aware of how scummy NAA's play is and also willing to defend him for no reason beyond "too wolfy to be wolf" while also locktowning me for totally random stuff after being snowed by me in our last game together.

I think you are positioning yourself for maximum cred while not doing anything to actually help.

question: if I flip town will you see me as a stronger player for doing all of this which you find "too correct"?

Only if NAA also flips town. I'm not gonna think better of you if he's mafia and you're town since then you knew he was being scummy as hell and just let him off the hook for no reason.

[Porscha]

Get this through your head. No aspect of my meta knowledge of NAA has led me to believe that he would do these things as town. If anything my meta on NAA directly indicates he is scum because he is usually careful to put his vote on a position that helps him the most and here he is flagrantly abusing it towards anti town ends.

Do what things?

Vote me, you and Seanzie.

So, are Mac and Falcon also anti-town? And Seanzie, he's voting Mac?

Yes, Mac is currently going down a very bad direction with his solving. Seanzie and Falcon are fine.

My problem is not that you scumread someone I know or believe to be town. My problem is that you have done nothing but that all game.

You forgot the townie bit. "But Mac does that all the time and ultimately reevaluates correctly so I'm not worried."

Probably because that sentence does nothing to benefit your wolf agenda.

I have repeatedly said you were town and have not expressed an iota of interest in voting you. I just think you're wrong which you admit you are as town all the time.

ok fellas she used the word "wrong" on a day 1 read. time for lynch

[MacDougall]

Why?

1) It is extremely bad for town to make those votes. Like if I had to pick three people to be my only votes all game and wanted to find the most anti town slots to put those votes on it would be that exact three.
2) NAA would know 1).
3) Therefore he would not make those votes as town.

1) The majority of the players in this game have voted for me at one point or another. I have also voted for seanzie along with several others. Also many people have voted you. Given at least several town have voted on all three of us at some point i think it's asinine to assume that it's beyond the town mindset to vote one of us three. I am beyond certain that if Axehole was/is town here that he would not be viewing voting you or me as anti town behaviour even if he fucken townread us!

This is literally why I am cannot reconcile you as town here.

Having one bad read means you made a mistake. Having nothing but bad reads probably means you are wolfing.

NAA falls into the latter category.

So you hold Axe's reads accuracy and commitment to pro-town play to a higher standard than Sabi and Falcon?

[Alison]

Having nothing but bad reads probably means you are wolfing.

Specifically this part.

My reads are good. Yours aren't.

[NotAnAxehole]

Having nothing but bad reads probably means you are wolfing.

Specifically this part.

My reads are good. Yours aren't.

LEL

[NotAnAxehole]

Gimme some of whatever you're smoking.

[MacDougall]

Having nothing but bad reads probably means you are wolfing.

Specifically this part.

My reads are good. Yours aren't.

You don't even have confident reads on anyone and were sheeping my axe read like 15 minutes ago before you suddenly decided you believed it beyond all doubt because you got caught overdefending your position.

[Alison]

Why?

1) It is extremely bad for town to make those votes. Like if I had to pick three people to be my only votes all game and wanted to find the most anti town slots to put those votes on it would be that exact three.
2) NAA would know 1).
3) Therefore he would not make those votes as town.

1) The majority of the players in this game have voted for me at one point or another. I have also voted for seanzie along with several others. Also many people have voted you. Given at least several town have voted on all three of us at some point i think it's asinine to assume that it's beyond the town mindset to vote one of us three. I am beyond certain that if Axehole was/is town here that he would not be viewing voting you or me as anti town behaviour even if he fucken townread us!

This is literally why I am cannot reconcile you as town here.

Having one bad read means you made a mistake. Having nothing but bad reads probably means you are wolfing.

NAA falls into the latter category.

So you hold Axe's reads accuracy and commitment to pro-town play to a higher standard than Sabi and Falcon?

By a large margin. Maybe I wouldn't when I first met him but he has reformed and tries his best to win his games now. He is also has way better reads as town than Falcon and Sabi who are =rand and <rand respectively.