Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)

[Lumi]

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

Hammering this early would be silly, let's at least wait for it to be after I get home from work so that EoD time is better for me

[Jackofhearts2005]

Imagine being okay with getting yeeted.

[Arcbell]

benefit of hindsight. there is no P A I N in hindsight

You clearly have never played Game of Champions 2020.

I'm actually kind of a grammar nerd, but only when it comes to my native language.

This is interesting to me. Cause I can tell the added "have" is a bit wonky. But I feel like it's more poetic, like it gives the impression of GoC being a thing you can do more than once. I don't know if that makes sense. Probably not.

not a grammar nerd but

I think "you clearly have never" implies there is some point in the past where you hadn't played the game which does sort of go along with your poetic distortion because the only reason you could need to distinguish that from "you have clearly never" is if it was possible for you to have not played the game yet at some point in the past when it could have been played, then played it later

in that case I think it should be "you clearly had never", and that isn't what you were trying to say anyways, but yes, with a little artistic freedom, this checks out to me

in other words "you had never played x at time y" is only a sensible statement if x is playable at different times

the "never" is another clue that this is what you mean

[srceenplay]

I'm definitely not a wolf. I will prove it to you. After my flip.

Is there a chance you will read the game?

Back read, no. ISO someone, potentially.

[Dyslexicon]

If to mafia are gone that leaves 1 left.
So you are implying me last wolf big brain play comes in stirring the pot while not knowing what's going on.

More so implying that you are one of the few people who would make a kill on NAA. And perhaps on LC.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Btw, why do 3p have safeclaims if 0 townies can claim anyhow?

[srceenplay]

Imagine being okay with getting yeeted.

Never OK getting yetted. That (almost always) and self voting are always game throwing.

[Jackofhearts2005]

[VOTE: Mizery] aubergine

I hope HK is a hit.

Lag and/or Mizery look worst if HK isn’t. So like posterity.

Why did you not think HK was a hit?

I thought he was a hit. I just didn't want to hammer.

[Dyslexicon]

benefit of hindsight. there is no P A I N in hindsight

You clearly have never played Game of Champions 2020.

I'm actually kind of a grammar nerd, but only when it comes to my native language.

This is interesting to me. Cause I can tell the added "have" is a bit wonky. But I feel like it's more poetic, like it gives the impression of GoC being a thing you can do more than once. I don't know if that makes sense. Probably not.

not a grammar nerd but

I think "you clearly have never" implies there is some point in the past where you hadn't played the game which does sort of go along with your poetic distortion because the only reason you could need to distinguish that from "you have clearly never" is if it was possible for you to have not played the game yet at some point in the past when it could have been played, then played it later

in that case I think it should be "you clearly had never", and that isn't what you were trying to say anyways, but yes, with a little artistic freedom, this checks out to me

in other words "you had never played x at time y" is only a sensible statement if x is playable at different times

the "never" is another clue that this is what you mean

Mafia poetry class.
By Arc, Lag and Dizzy.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Like Mac's push on him seemed sensical and HK's reaction to that push was kinda bad.

[Dyslexicon]

[VOTE: Mizery] aubergine

I hope HK is a hit.

Lag and/or Mizery look worst if HK isn’t. So like posterity.

Why did you not think HK was a hit?

I thought he was a hit. I just didn't want to hammer.

But why the vote for posterity, if you thought he was a hit?

See what I did there? It was a trick question.

[srceenplay]

If to mafia are gone that leaves 1 left.
So you are implying me last wolf big brain play comes in stirring the pot while not knowing what's going on.

More so implying that you are one of the few people who would make a kill on NAA. And perhaps on LC.

If I was mafia I would probably think about killing Star. He probably has the best chance to read me this game. LC no.
Mac from D1 looked like a better kill.

[Lumi]

Imagine being okay with getting yeeted.

Never OK getting yetted. That (almost always) and self voting are always game throwing.

Your WIM also seems to follow the WIM levels a non-WIFONing wolf would have

As you cared early on, then stopped caring after a wolf flipped. You were perfectly content with just 1-posting and leaving your vote on a vanity wagon. Feelings of hopelessness in the game state?

[Jackofhearts2005]

someone mad about axe being universally town read?

He wasn't at all lol

It's kind of a weird kill tbh

sounds like someone that was mad about it

[Jackofhearts2005]

[VOTE: Mizery] aubergine

I hope HK is a hit.

Lag and/or Mizery look worst if HK isn’t. So like posterity.

Why did you not think HK was a hit?

I thought he was a hit. I just didn't want to hammer.

But why the vote for posterity, if you thought he was a hit?

See what I did there? It was a trick question.

There's not much else you can do with a vote if you're explicitly not trying to yeet someone with it, right?

[Lumi]

If to mafia are gone that leaves 1 left.
So you are implying me last wolf big brain play comes in stirring the pot while not knowing what's going on.

More so implying that you are one of the few people who would make a kill on NAA. And perhaps on LC.

If I was mafia I would probably think about killing Star. He probably has the best chance to read me this game. LC no.
Mac from D1 looked like a better kill.

Who is Star?

[Jackofhearts2005]

NAA.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I can make an argument why I never kill NAA itg but the argument kinda makes itself and nobody seems to suspect me all that much anyhow.

[srceenplay]

Imagine being okay with getting yeeted.

Never OK getting yetted. That (almost always) and self voting are always game throwing.

Your WIM also seems to follow the WIM levels a non-WIFONing wolf would have

As you cared early on, then stopped caring after a wolf flipped. You were perfectly content with just 1-posting and leaving your vote on a vanity wagon. Feelings of hopelessness in the game state?

If that was true I would say this is unwinnable and forfeit.

activity was for irl that doesnt matter in game

[srceenplay]

If to mafia are gone that leaves 1 left.
So you are implying me last wolf big brain play comes in stirring the pot while not knowing what's going on.

More so implying that you are one of the few people who would make a kill on NAA. And perhaps on LC.

If I was mafia I would probably think about killing Star. He probably has the best chance to read me this game. LC no.
Mac from D1 looked like a better kill.

Who is Star?

Naa

[Dyslexicon]

Who all was voting NAA? @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME You haven't done the vote count yet. <3

[Arcbell]

Imagine being okay with getting yeeted.

Never OK getting yetted. That (almost always) and self voting are always game throwing.

Your WIM also seems to follow the WIM levels a non-WIFONing wolf would have

As you cared early on, then stopped caring after a wolf flipped. You were perfectly content with just 1-posting and leaving your vote on a vanity wagon. Feelings of hopelessness in the game state?

If that was true I would say this is unwinnable and forfeit.

activity was for irl that doesnt matter in game

Didn't you just talk about how you'd never give up / game throw?

[srceenplay]

If to mafia are gone that leaves 1 left.
So you are implying me last wolf big brain play comes in stirring the pot while not knowing what's going on.

More so implying that you are one of the few people who would make a kill on NAA. And perhaps on LC.

If I was mafia I would probably think about killing Star. He probably has the best chance to read me this game. LC no.
Mac from D1 looked like a better kill.

I remember why I thought you where scum.
You said "why wasn't Mac killed"
I thought it felt like signaling.

Moot point now.

[Dyslexicon]

I remember why I thought you where scum.
You said "why wasn't Mac killed"
I thought it felt like signaling.

Moot point now.

I don't think I said that, but ok.

[srceenplay]

Imagine being okay with getting yeeted.

Never OK getting yetted. That (almost always) and self voting are always game throwing.

Your WIM also seems to follow the WIM levels a non-WIFONing wolf would have

As you cared early on, then stopped caring after a wolf flipped. You were perfectly content with just 1-posting and leaving your vote on a vanity wagon. Feelings of hopelessness in the game state?

If that was true I would say this is unwinnable and forfeit.

activity was for irl that doesnt matter in game

Didn't you just talk about how you'd never give up / game throw?

I would never allow my self to be voted out or vote myself as any alignment. Slightly different.

[Jackofhearts2005]

plus we have mac and luffy who are soft clears

Literally, these are the ones I'm having pretty huge second thoughts about after HK's iso.
Would be pretty sad if Mac's mafia though, and I don't want that to be the case. He's really probably not.

I think we just follow along if someone is doing the lag gambit and let mac find mafia before the 3 way and yeet him if survives that long and doesn't

I kind of want to just sheep Mac until F3 and then just policy him if he wasn't able to find a wolf the entire time until then. My concern would be he would kill me the night before F3 and then hope someone lol~willages and doesn't policy him when he'd have no business being alive

I think this is absolutely what we should do. We just need to make sure everyone is primed and mac himself agrees to the plan

[Jackofhearts2005]

Who all was voting NAA? @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME You haven't done the vote count yet. <3

I think nobody at EOD. The wagon got up to 3 and I'm pretty sure my late vote moved him from 1 to 0.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I'm aware I haven't posted the votecount yet, will do so later this evening.

[Dyslexicon]

Who all was voting NAA? @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME You haven't done the vote count yet. <3

I think nobody at EOD. The wagon got up to 3 and I'm pretty sure my late vote moved him from 1 to 0.

Ah. Ok. But you, Arc and DDL before that, correct?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Spoiler: show

here's where I'm currently at for townies:

dizzy
lc
mizery
seanzie

Someone talk to me, I hate backreading

Why does Mizery feel like mafia to you?

The read is probably not accurate because Mizery was in the same game as me and I'm pretty sure we were both prioritizing that game at least 10x more since it was an invitational with a stacked playerlist. But when Mizery's ISO is devoid of any real content she's just >>rand wolf. Her ISO is devoid of content.

Although I have a very good record of reading Mizery, so I'm confident I'll be able to read her today if we get the chance to interact.

why do you feel like her ISO is devoid of content?

It's almost exclusively fluff posts + lists of names with no explanations.
Town Illwei has significantly more depth of thought than that. Wolf Illwei is prone to doing just that.

god dammit lag stop doing things
I think my only experience with illwei wolf was in the hydra game we were wolves together and yeah that tracks pretty accurately.

god dammit lag stop doing things

Also what do you mean by this?

because I was quite content to town read mizery and then you had to go and blow it all up.

Here's some of HK's progression on Mizery. He town reads her pretty fast in the beginning.
However, when Lag questions her on D2, he looks quite content to build up under that suspicion. He says that Lag's account for Mizery's wolf play tracks accurately with this game. And the sentence "because I was quite content to town read mizery and then you had to go and blow it all up." just doesn't read like something you would say if you had tmi that she was mafia.

The whole thing just reads like a TMI read of Mizery as town based on little, but being happy when she is suspected.

I disagree.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Who all was voting NAA? @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME You haven't done the vote count yet. <3

I think nobody at EOD. The wagon got up to 3 and I'm pretty sure my late vote moved him from 1 to 0.

Ah. Ok. But you, Arc and DDL before that, correct?

That sounds right.

[srceenplay]

I remember why I thought you where scum.
You said "why wasn't Mac killed"
I thought it felt like signaling.

Moot point now.

I don't think I said that, but ok.

Another strike for me.
Iso'd you ctrlf mac
Wasn't there.

[Dyslexicon]

@Mizery Who do you think would kill NAA?

[Lumi]

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

[Jackofhearts2005]

[VOTE: srceenplay] aubergine simplicity is beauty

Because of today's posts? Sitting and thinking about that right now.

The NAA kill really stands out.
So I would guess either someone who hasn't read the whole game or hasn't been paying attention (Srceen? maybe DDL - don't know how much he's read, but he seems busy?)
Someone who likes wifom for shits and giggles even though it's probably not smart (Can't really think of anyone, but Jack? but that's a stretch)
Or just Mac. But I don't think so.

Yeah, tbh.

Like w!Jack just kills Mac every single time and I think so does w!Dizzy.

W!DDL probably doesn't care where he shoots and I guess if the obvious town bucket is Mac/DDL and there's a wolf in there, they would kill outside of that group but I still strongly think Mac and DDL are just town.

Between Arc, Lag, Porsche, Miz, Screen.....Screen has admitted to potentially making that kill.

I honestly don't think w!Lag does. Sure, he's not as aware of Mac's playstyle as Dizzy and myself but I think he knows that he gets yeeted over Mac almost every time so it's not worth WIFOM framing Mac.

Arc, I don't know super well but this

Hollowkatt would be swimming with the fishes right now if not for the fact that I know I'd be dead n1 100% of the time if he had a choice. So at best he's maf 3p.

If Dizzy got taken off the table I'd probably put a bullet in Arcbell first.

means he probably wouldn't hesitate to blast Mac if given the option and Arc has been active enough to know what's going on.

Feel like that kill comes from Screen more than anybody. Gotta look back and HK and Falcon's treatment of Screen. Cause I remember at the time, there was what I thought was a poorly thought out case where 2 players voted Screen early (Arc and ???) and then Falcon jumped on it in a way that looked opportunistic and I had Screen as not likely w/w with Falcon because of it. Single datapoint, though.

[Mizery]

@Mizery Who do you think would kill NAA?

I already said I think it's screen for thinking NAA was townread.

mac potentially if that's not a hit or porscha potentially for being out of thread

[Lumi]

Who all was voting NAA? @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME You haven't done the vote count yet. <3

I think nobody at EOD. The wagon got up to 3 and I'm pretty sure my late vote moved him from 1 to 0.

EoD wagons were Arcbell voting NAA and NAA voting Porscha

[Jackofhearts2005]

Well...what do I know from votes?

[Jackofhearts2005]

w!Miz probably doesn't kill NAA either fwiw.

[Dyslexicon]

@Mizery Who do you think would kill NAA?

I already said I think it's screen for thinking NAA was townread.

mac potentially if that's not a hit or porscha potentially for being out of thread

Right.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Mizery, this should be your avatar.

[Dyslexicon]

I guess it could be Porscha.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Screen wolf unironically explains the LC kill too

Heh. There is that, I guess.

LC was pretty townread though.

[Mizery]

Mizery, this should be your avatar.

why

[Mizery]

Miz is only wolf if hk wasn't 3p and was goon

that's because of my d1 votes

if i was a wolf in this game I'd be doing a lot more lw softing

[Lumi]

[VOTE: srceenplay] aubergine simplicity is beauty

Because of today's posts? Sitting and thinking about that right now.

The NAA kill really stands out.
So I would guess either someone who hasn't read the whole game or hasn't been paying attention (Srceen? maybe DDL - don't know how much he's read, but he seems busy?)
Someone who likes wifom for shits and giggles even though it's probably not smart (Can't really think of anyone, but Jack? but that's a stretch)
Or just Mac. But I don't think so.

Yeah, tbh.

Like w!Jack just kills Mac every single time and I think so does w!Dizzy.

W!DDL probably doesn't care where he shoots and I guess if the obvious town bucket is Mac/DDL and there's a wolf in there, they would kill outside of that group but I still strongly think Mac and DDL are just town.

Between Arc, Lag, Porsche, Miz, Screen.....Screen has admitted to potentially making that kill.

I honestly don't think w!Lag does. Sure, he's not as aware of Mac's playstyle as Dizzy and myself but I think he knows that he gets yeeted over Mac almost every time so it's not worth WIFOM framing Mac.

Arc, I don't know super well but this

Hollowkatt would be swimming with the fishes right now if not for the fact that I know I'd be dead n1 100% of the time if he had a choice. So at best he's maf 3p.

If Dizzy got taken off the table I'd probably put a bullet in Arcbell first.

means he probably wouldn't hesitate to blast Mac if given the option and Arc has been active enough to know what's going on.

Feel like that kill comes from Screen more than anybody. Gotta look back and HK and Falcon's treatment of Screen. Cause I remember at the time, there was what I thought was a poorly thought out case where 2 players voted Screen early (Arc and ???) and then Falcon jumped on it in a way that looked opportunistic and I had Screen as not likely w/w with Falcon because of it. Single datapoint, though.

Other than Mizery, Mac is the single player in this list I've played the most games with. I kill Mac night 1 after that day 1 every time. Especially since it means I would have gotten to credibly dodge having to interact with him.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Mizery, this should be your avatar.

why

Because that's "The Miz" and he's being exaggeratedly sad.

[Jackofhearts2005]

[VOTE: srceenplay] aubergine simplicity is beauty

Because of today's posts? Sitting and thinking about that right now.

The NAA kill really stands out.
So I would guess either someone who hasn't read the whole game or hasn't been paying attention (Srceen? maybe DDL - don't know how much he's read, but he seems busy?)
Someone who likes wifom for shits and giggles even though it's probably not smart (Can't really think of anyone, but Jack? but that's a stretch)
Or just Mac. But I don't think so.

Yeah, tbh.

Like w!Jack just kills Mac every single time and I think so does w!Dizzy.

W!DDL probably doesn't care where he shoots and I guess if the obvious town bucket is Mac/DDL and there's a wolf in there, they would kill outside of that group but I still strongly think Mac and DDL are just town.

Between Arc, Lag, Porsche, Miz, Screen.....Screen has admitted to potentially making that kill.

I honestly don't think w!Lag does. Sure, he's not as aware of Mac's playstyle as Dizzy and myself but I think he knows that he gets yeeted over Mac almost every time so it's not worth WIFOM framing Mac.

Arc, I don't know super well but this

Hollowkatt would be swimming with the fishes right now if not for the fact that I know I'd be dead n1 100% of the time if he had a choice. So at best he's maf 3p.

If Dizzy got taken off the table I'd probably put a bullet in Arcbell first.

means he probably wouldn't hesitate to blast Mac if given the option and Arc has been active enough to know what's going on.

Feel like that kill comes from Screen more than anybody. Gotta look back and HK and Falcon's treatment of Screen. Cause I remember at the time, there was what I thought was a poorly thought out case where 2 players voted Screen early (Arc and ???) and then Falcon jumped on it in a way that looked opportunistic and I had Screen as not likely w/w with Falcon because of it. Single datapoint, though.

Other than Mizery, Mac is the single player in this list I've played the most games with. I kill Mac night 1 after that day 1 every time. Especially since it means I would have gotten to credibly dodge having to interact with him.

I believe you patpat.jpg

[Lumi]

[VOTE: srceenplay] aubergine simplicity is beauty

Because of today's posts? Sitting and thinking about that right now.

The NAA kill really stands out.
So I would guess either someone who hasn't read the whole game or hasn't been paying attention (Srceen? maybe DDL - don't know how much he's read, but he seems busy?)
Someone who likes wifom for shits and giggles even though it's probably not smart (Can't really think of anyone, but Jack? but that's a stretch)
Or just Mac. But I don't think so.

Yeah, tbh.

Like w!Jack just kills Mac every single time and I think so does w!Dizzy.

W!DDL probably doesn't care where he shoots and I guess if the obvious town bucket is Mac/DDL and there's a wolf in there, they would kill outside of that group but I still strongly think Mac and DDL are just town.

Between Arc, Lag, Porsche, Miz, Screen.....Screen has admitted to potentially making that kill.

I honestly don't think w!Lag does. Sure, he's not as aware of Mac's playstyle as Dizzy and myself but I think he knows that he gets yeeted over Mac almost every time so it's not worth WIFOM framing Mac.

Arc, I don't know super well but this

Hollowkatt would be swimming with the fishes right now if not for the fact that I know I'd be dead n1 100% of the time if he had a choice. So at best he's maf 3p.

If Dizzy got taken off the table I'd probably put a bullet in Arcbell first.

means he probably wouldn't hesitate to blast Mac if given the option and Arc has been active enough to know what's going on.

Feel like that kill comes from Screen more than anybody. Gotta look back and HK and Falcon's treatment of Screen. Cause I remember at the time, there was what I thought was a poorly thought out case where 2 players voted Screen early (Arc and ???) and then Falcon jumped on it in a way that looked opportunistic and I had Screen as not likely w/w with Falcon because of it. Single datapoint, though.

Other than Mizery, Mac is the single player in this list I've played the most games with. I kill Mac night 1 after that day 1 every time. Especially since it means I would have gotten to credibly dodge having to interact with him.

I believe you patpat.jpg

This is supposed to be condescending, but I'm instead going to read it as Jack being annoyed that his tunnel on me was wrong

[Lumi]

I think Porscha makes just as much sense for the last wolf as Screen does.