Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)

[Dyslexicon]

Spoiler: show

here's where I'm currently at for townies:

dizzy
lc
mizery
seanzie

Why does Mizery feel like mafia to you?

The read is probably not accurate because Mizery was in the same game as me and I'm pretty sure we were both prioritizing that game at least 10x more since it was an invitational with a stacked playerlist. But when Mizery's ISO is devoid of any real content she's just >>rand wolf. Her ISO is devoid of content.

Although I have a very good record of reading Mizery, so I'm confident I'll be able to read her today if we get the chance to interact.

why do you feel like her ISO is devoid of content?

It's almost exclusively fluff posts + lists of names with no explanations.
Town Illwei has significantly more depth of thought than that. Wolf Illwei is prone to doing just that.

god dammit lag stop doing things
I think my only experience with illwei wolf was in the hydra game we were wolves together and yeah that tracks pretty accurately.

god dammit lag stop doing things

Also what do you mean by this?

because I was quite content to town read mizery and then you had to go and blow it all up.

Here's some of HK's progression on Mizery. He town reads her pretty fast in the beginning.
However, when Lag questions her on D2, he looks quite content to build up under that suspicion. He says that Lag's account for Mizery's wolf play tracks accurately with this game. And the sentence "because I was quite content to town read mizery and then you had to go and blow it all up." just doesn't read like something you would say if you had tmi that she was mafia.

The whole thing just reads like a TMI read of Mizery as town based on little, but being happy when she is suspected.

Counterpoint: Glomgold would actually not mind being a solo wolf in order to take ownership of the night kill and bussing along the way gets him the towncred he needs to survive until the end.

I'm actually coming to kind of the opposite conclusion off of this

I don't think HK would do that.

In fact, we know he didn't do that. HK had no strong suspicions or pushes at all. He bussed Falcon with a weak vote, but Falcon was already going down at that point. Yes, he could effectively bus mafia, since he knew who it was. But he didn't do that.
Also, in this situation, it's not HK potentially bussing someone. It's him egging on your suspicion. Which is different.

If he bussed, the mafia would be Jack. Cause that is the one he actually voted on D2. He didn't even have a serious vote out on D3.

[Arcbell]

Yea I think if GG wanted to pursue a solo maf strat, they'd be sure to position themselves to take the pelt for themselves.

[Dyslexicon]

Reserved for votecount

Could we get this vote count, please?

[Arcbell]

[VOTE: srceenplay] aubergine simplicity is beauty

[srceenplay]

someone mad about axe being universally town read?

It would be hilarious if screen made the kill thinking it frames Arcbell and made this post to plant that idea, because the kill really doesn't frame Arcbell

Actually, what did you mean by this @srceenplay

Just that. Why else would anyone get rid of him? Wasn't going to get voted out.
Maybe he was on to something.

Why do you think NAAH wasn't getting voted out?

Half of us town read him

[srceenplay]

someone mad about axe being universally town read?

It would be hilarious if screen made the kill thinking it frames Arcbell and made this post to plant that idea, because the kill really doesn't frame Arcbell

Actually, what did you mean by this @srceenplay

Just that. Why else would anyone get rid of him? Wasn't going to get voted out.
Maybe he was on to something.

He was literally almost voted out last phase.

Are you even reading the game?

Last phase didn't really read at all

[Dyslexicon]

[VOTE: srceenplay] aubergine simplicity is beauty

Because of today's posts? Sitting and thinking about that right now.

The NAA kill really stands out.
So I would guess either someone who hasn't read the whole game or hasn't been paying attention (Srceen? maybe DDL - don't know how much he's read, but he seems busy?)
Someone who likes wifom for shits and giggles even though it's probably not smart (Can't really think of anyone, but Jack? but that's a stretch)
Or just Mac. But I don't think so.

[Dyslexicon]

spicy take: LC, Arcbell, and srceenplay are town

Have you played with Srceenplay before and know enough about him?
Would this be normal town play for him?

If you're saying "No" to the first question, why do you find him town?

I have played a few games with him yes. I don't have enough experience with him to know if this is "normal" town behavior, but I like these posts.

Spoiler: show

scum because of unecessary effort

FTFY

what one? the one you agree with or the one you don't?

The one that you're trying to make on me.

you don't see whats wrong with that?

It's wrong and it's basically trying to shut down the attempt to move the game forward, so it's scummy as hell.

where did the game stop at?

The one that you're trying to make on me.

you don't see whats wrong with that?

It's wrong and it's basically trying to shut down the attempt to move the game forward, so it's scummy as hell.

where did the game stop at?

Well everyone else ignored your BS after you disappeared the moment you got attention on yourself.
Then you magically reappear the moment Arcbell and I started talking about you being mafia and now you're here trying to be smart mouth with your answers.

fuck, I magically disappeared again

Maybe let other people chime in then i guess.
I feel like i'm the only one who has given information this game. If that can't be seen

I town read attitude a lot of the time as I find wolves tend to not want to make big waves like that early in the game. Late in the game sure, set up the thunderdomes and what not but at this stage of the game srceen being a wolf and playing like this is basically forcing the other wolf to bus him for cred b/c there's no way he's escaping today yeah?

Srceen is playing super aggro, drawing attention from several players, and then using that attention to drop reads. It's something I've done as town before and something I rarely see wolves do.

here's where I'm currently at for townies:

dizzy
lc
mizery
seanzie

Weird how HK spends a post talking about why Srceen should be town, but doesn't put him in his town reads later.

[Dyslexicon]

[VOTE: srceenplay] aubergine simplicity is beauty

Actually, sure

[VOTE: Srceenplay] aubergine

[Arcbell]

[VOTE: srceenplay] aubergine simplicity is beauty

Because of today's posts? Sitting and thinking about that right now.

The NAA kill really stands out.
So I would guess either someone who hasn't read the whole game or hasn't been paying attention (Srceen? maybe DDL - don't know how much he's read, but he seems busy?)
Someone who likes wifom for shits and giggles even though it's probably not smart (Can't really think of anyone, but Jack? but that's a stretch)
Or just Mac. But I don't think so.

Yep this is roughly the same path I walked, the first part anyways.

Also with 3mls and so many reasons to keep other people alive I don't see srceen not being one of our mls in any event

you - town overflow
jack - too town to kill early
mac - too accurate to kill early
lag - too pro-town to kill early
mizery - too funny to kill early
me - hopefully no one is reading this far down and doesn't even consider this

[Dyslexicon]

Simplicity is in fact beauty. I can't believe I spent most of this game being a drama queen, when I ended D2 with pretending I had made my mind up voting HK because of his vote and Sean's read. Did the same D3. But spent more time feeling P A I N instead of just pushing that which was clearly at the forefront for me anyway.

Actually, I can believe this.

[Lumi]

[VOTE: Srceenplay] aubergine

[Lumi]

Screen wolf unironically explains the LC kill too

[Mizery]

Spoiler: show

here's where I'm currently at for townies:

dizzy
lc
mizery
seanzie

Why does Mizery feel like mafia to you?

The read is probably not accurate because Mizery was in the same game as me and I'm pretty sure we were both prioritizing that game at least 10x more since it was an invitational with a stacked playerlist. But when Mizery's ISO is devoid of any real content she's just >>rand wolf. Her ISO is devoid of content.

Although I have a very good record of reading Mizery, so I'm confident I'll be able to read her today if we get the chance to interact.

why do you feel like her ISO is devoid of content?

It's almost exclusively fluff posts + lists of names with no explanations.
Town Illwei has significantly more depth of thought than that. Wolf Illwei is prone to doing just that.

god dammit lag stop doing things
I think my only experience with illwei wolf was in the hydra game we were wolves together and yeah that tracks pretty accurately.

god dammit lag stop doing things

Also what do you mean by this?

because I was quite content to town read mizery and then you had to go and blow it all up.

Here's some of HK's progression on Mizery. He town reads her pretty fast in the beginning.
However, when Lag questions her on D2, he looks quite content to build up under that suspicion. He says that Lag's account for Mizery's wolf play tracks accurately with this game. And the sentence "because I was quite content to town read mizery and then you had to go and blow it all up." just doesn't read like something you would say if you had tmi that she was mafia.

The whole thing just reads like a TMI read of Mizery as town based on little, but being happy when she is suspected.

Counterpoint: Glomgold would actually not mind being a solo wolf in order to take ownership of the night kill and bussing along the way gets him the towncred he needs to survive until the end.

I'm actually coming to kind of the opposite conclusion off of this

if this is true then why do you think gloomgold would only bus falcon if there was anothr wolf on the waogn

[Lumi]

Spoiler: show

here's where I'm currently at for townies:

dizzy
lc
mizery
seanzie

The read is probably not accurate because Mizery was in the same game as me and I'm pretty sure we were both prioritizing that game at least 10x more since it was an invitational with a stacked playerlist. But when Mizery's ISO is devoid of any real content she's just >>rand wolf. Her ISO is devoid of content.

Although I have a very good record of reading Mizery, so I'm confident I'll be able to read her today if we get the chance to interact.

why do you feel like her ISO is devoid of content?

It's almost exclusively fluff posts + lists of names with no explanations.
Town Illwei has significantly more depth of thought than that. Wolf Illwei is prone to doing just that.

god dammit lag stop doing things
I think my only experience with illwei wolf was in the hydra game we were wolves together and yeah that tracks pretty accurately.

god dammit lag stop doing things

Also what do you mean by this?

because I was quite content to town read mizery and then you had to go and blow it all up.

Here's some of HK's progression on Mizery. He town reads her pretty fast in the beginning.
However, when Lag questions her on D2, he looks quite content to build up under that suspicion. He says that Lag's account for Mizery's wolf play tracks accurately with this game. And the sentence "because I was quite content to town read mizery and then you had to go and blow it all up." just doesn't read like something you would say if you had tmi that she was mafia.

The whole thing just reads like a TMI read of Mizery as town based on little, but being happy when she is suspected.

Counterpoint: Glomgold would actually not mind being a solo wolf in order to take ownership of the night kill and bussing along the way gets him the towncred he needs to survive until the end.

I'm actually coming to kind of the opposite conclusion off of this

I don't think HK would do that.

In fact, we know he didn't do that. HK had no strong suspicions or pushes at all. He bussed Falcon with a weak vote, but Falcon was already going down at that point. Yes, he could effectively bus mafia, since he knew who it was. But he didn't do that.
Also, in this situation, it's not HK potentially bussing someone. It's him egging on your suspicion. Which is different.

If he bussed, the mafia would be Jack. Cause that is the one he actually voted on D2. He didn't even have a serious vote out on D3.

Ya, okay, I buy that

[Dyslexicon]

Screen wolf unironically explains the LC kill too

Let's hammer the last scum before Mac wakes up to make him proud of us

[Mizery]

was abt to call screen a wolf for thinking naa was townread lmfao

[Arcbell]

Simplicity is in fact beauty.

my dearest wish in this life is to actually know how to state this fact properly

I can't believe I spent most of this game being a drama queen, when I ended D2 with pretending I had made my mind up voting HK because of his vote and Sean's read. Did the same D3. But spent more time feeling P A I N instead of just pushing that which was clearly at the forefront for me anyway.

Actually, I can believe this.

benefit of hindsight. there is no P A I N in hindsight

[Mizery]

Distraught at hk being gloomgold instead of just a goon becuase of how hard i worked at softing 3p

[Lumi]

Spoiler: show

here's where I'm currently at for townies:

dizzy
lc
mizery
seanzie

The read is probably not accurate because Mizery was in the same game as me and I'm pretty sure we were both prioritizing that game at least 10x more since it was an invitational with a stacked playerlist. But when Mizery's ISO is devoid of any real content she's just >>rand wolf. Her ISO is devoid of content.

Although I have a very good record of reading Mizery, so I'm confident I'll be able to read her today if we get the chance to interact.

why do you feel like her ISO is devoid of content?

It's almost exclusively fluff posts + lists of names with no explanations.
Town Illwei has significantly more depth of thought than that. Wolf Illwei is prone to doing just that.

god dammit lag stop doing things
I think my only experience with illwei wolf was in the hydra game we were wolves together and yeah that tracks pretty accurately.

god dammit lag stop doing things

Also what do you mean by this?

because I was quite content to town read mizery and then you had to go and blow it all up.

Here's some of HK's progression on Mizery. He town reads her pretty fast in the beginning.
However, when Lag questions her on D2, he looks quite content to build up under that suspicion. He says that Lag's account for Mizery's wolf play tracks accurately with this game. And the sentence "because I was quite content to town read mizery and then you had to go and blow it all up." just doesn't read like something you would say if you had tmi that she was mafia.

The whole thing just reads like a TMI read of Mizery as town based on little, but being happy when she is suspected.

Counterpoint: Glomgold would actually not mind being a solo wolf in order to take ownership of the night kill and bussing along the way gets him the towncred he needs to survive until the end.

I'm actually coming to kind of the opposite conclusion off of this

if this is true then why do you think gloomgold would only bus falcon if there was anothr wolf on the waogn

It's just one of many strategies he could use, I never said he only busses if the only wolf is also bussing, and considering the different angles that glomgold could have been using to approach the game is always good even if by definition all but one such angle is going to be wrong

[Dyslexicon]

benefit of hindsight. there is no P A I N in hindsight

You clearly have never played Game of Champions 2020.

[Lumi]

benefit of hindsight. there is no P A I N in hindsight

You clearly have never played Game of Champions 2020.

Is GoC 2020 a past game on this site?

[Dyslexicon]

Is GoC 2020 a past game on this site?

Yes.

I told them. I TOLD THEM

[Lumi]

Is GoC 2020 a past game on this site?

Yes.

I told them. I TOLD THEM

You used past perfect tense for something that should be past tense. That's kind wolfy ngl lol

But actually, what happened in that game?

[Arcbell]

lag I think someone else asked this but is your avatar literally an undead baby wolf cheerleader?

[Mizery]

Is GoC 2020 a past game on this site?

Yes.

I told them. I TOLD THEM

You used past perfect tense for something that should be past tense. That's kind wolfy ngl lol

But actually, what happened in that game?

[Mizery]

i love lag

[Dyslexicon]

Is GoC 2020 a past game on this site?

Yes.

I told them. I TOLD THEM

You used past perfect tense for something that should be past tense. That's kind wolfy ngl lol

But actually, what happened in that game?

Well, English is my second language. I no has the grammars.

Just Alison claiming to be HARMLESS 3p at the beginning of the game.
People going, "Ok, but we'll see about that."
Town crushing it and chopping all the mafia in no time.
The game getting hard, everyone seeming super towny.

In the end, we went the rounds with mech and reads, but you had to bend spacetime to make a scum read.
I argued for chopping Alison, since she was in fact not town, and I was totally convinced everyone else was town.
Somehow, this did not happen. And Alison won alone as 3p. Town literally gave away the victory in an otherwise great game.

To be fair, we weren't told that all the mafia had been killed already, and there were surprisingly few. So it's somewhat understandable.

[Jackofhearts2005]

@NotAnAxehole dies and flips town

Hammer is 5, eod April 19 12pm edt

@ Arcbell
@ Dragon D. Luffy
@ Dyslexicon
@ Jackofhearts2005
@ Lag
@ MacDougall
@ Mizery
@ NotAnAxehole
@ Porscha
@ srceenplay

Lol what a wifomy kill.

[Dyslexicon]

benefit of hindsight. there is no P A I N in hindsight

You clearly have never played Game of Champions 2020.

I'm actually kind of a grammar nerd, but only when it comes to my native language.

This is interesting to me. Cause I can tell the added "have" is a bit wonky. But I feel like it's more poetic, like it gives the impression of GoC being a thing you can do more than once. I don't know if that makes sense. Probably not.

[srceenplay]

spicy take: LC, Arcbell, and srceenplay are town

Have you played with Srceenplay before and know enough about him?
Would this be normal town play for him?

If you're saying "No" to the first question, why do you find him town?

I have played a few games with him yes. I don't have enough experience with him to know if this is "normal" town behavior, but I like these posts.

Spoiler: show

scum because of unecessary effort

FTFY

what one? the one you agree with or the one you don't?

The one that you're trying to make on me.

you don't see whats wrong with that?

It's wrong and it's basically trying to shut down the attempt to move the game forward, so it's scummy as hell.

where did the game stop at?

you don't see whats wrong with that?

It's wrong and it's basically trying to shut down the attempt to move the game forward, so it's scummy as hell.

where did the game stop at?

Well everyone else ignored your BS after you disappeared the moment you got attention on yourself.
Then you magically reappear the moment Arcbell and I started talking about you being mafia and now you're here trying to be smart mouth with your answers.

fuck, I magically disappeared again

Maybe let other people chime in then i guess.
I feel like i'm the only one who has given information this game. If that can't be seen

I town read attitude a lot of the time as I find wolves tend to not want to make big waves like that early in the game. Late in the game sure, set up the thunderdomes and what not but at this stage of the game srceen being a wolf and playing like this is basically forcing the other wolf to bus him for cred b/c there's no way he's escaping today yeah?

Srceen is playing super aggro, drawing attention from several players, and then using that attention to drop reads. It's something I've done as town before and something I rarely see wolves do.

here's where I'm currently at for townies:

dizzy
lc
mizery
seanzie

Weird how HK spends a post talking about why Srceen should be town, but doesn't put him in his town reads later.

Weren't you supposed to have been lynched. How did we miss that?

[Dyslexicon]

Weren't you supposed to have been lynched. How did we miss that?

You missed it because we chopped 3p instead and then we chopped mafia instead.

[Lumi]

Is GoC 2020 a past game on this site?

Yes.

I told them. I TOLD THEM

You used past perfect tense for something that should be past tense. That's kind wolfy ngl lol

But actually, what happened in that game?

Well, English is my second language. I no has the grammars.

Just Alison claiming to be HARMLESS 3p at the beginning of the game.
People going, "Ok, but we'll see about that."
Town crushing it and chopping all the mafia in no time.
The game getting hard, everyone seeming super towny.

In the end, we went the rounds with mech and reads, but you had to bend spacetime to make a scum read.
I argued for chopping Alison, since she was in fact not town, and I was totally convinced everyone else was town.
Somehow, this did not happen. And Alison won alone as 3p. Town literally gave away the victory in an otherwise great game.

To be fair, we weren't told that all the mafia had been killed already, and there were surprisingly few. So it's somewhat understandable.

Oof.

[srceenplay]

Weren't you supposed to have been lynched. How did we miss that?

You missed it because we chopped 3p instead and then we chopped mafia instead.

Sounds like a win for us but not a clear for you

[Mizery]

I've played a game before where something like that happened, except we were told our wincon was specifically when all the mafia died, not threats, and in that case the host sismply lied to us

[Lumi]

benefit of hindsight. there is no P A I N in hindsight

You clearly have never played Game of Champions 2020.

I'm actually kind of a grammar nerd, but only when it comes to my native language.

This is interesting to me. Cause I can tell the added "have" is a bit wonky. But I feel like it's more poetic, like it gives the impression of GoC being a thing you can do more than once. I don't know if that makes sense. Probably not.

I was just joking around anyway, what's your native language?

And ya it does imply it's something you can do more than once, which is why I was a little bit confused since I thought it was an FM game but am not familiar enough with the site to know for sure. And it does make it more whimsical/poetic

[Dyslexicon]

Sounds like a win for us but not a clear for you

Bring an accusation forward. I'm all ears.

[Mizery]

[VOTE: srceenplay] aubergine

-1

[Jackofhearts2005]

Jack/Porscha doesn't look like it's a thing. Jack voted her 7 min before EoD, I followed. But I do think it's conceivable that Porscha could be run down. There was a lot of chaos during EoD.

They wouldn't know of each other's existence given that Falcon was the team mafia, yeah?

Well, yeah. Unless Jack 3p. Knowing of each other only goes one way. Though the mafia might have a good idea.

do you think the 3p would want to signal here or not? I was thinking about that in my fevered half-sleep this afternoon and couldn't come to a decision

Uhhh is this a signal?

Fucking....maybe.

[Dyslexicon]

I was just joking around anyway, what's your native language?

And ya it does imply it's something you can do more than once, which is why I was a little bit confused since I thought it was an FM game but am not familiar enough with the site to know for sure. And it does make it more whimsical/poetic

It's Norwegian.

Haha, well, then I'm happy. Cause I kind of wanted it to sound like "you've never played a GoC 2020", even though it doesn't make logical sense. =p

[srceenplay]

Sounds like a win for us but not a clear for you

Bring an accusation forward. I'm all ears.

I don't have one

[Jackofhearts2005]

If Screenplay is a wolf, I'll have been dragged through this entire game kicking and screaming in correct townreads but incorrect wolfreads.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I thought Falcon treated Screenplay as not a wolf but it's not a surefire thing.

[Dyslexicon]

I don't have one

Ok. Good talk.

[Lumi]

lag I think someone else asked this but is your avatar literally an undead baby wolf cheerleader?

Demon, not undead

His name is King from the Owl House and he's the cutest

[srceenplay]

I'm definitely not a wolf. I will prove it to you. After my flip.

[Mizery]

I'm definitely not a wolf. I will prove it to you. After my flip.

ooooooooooooooooooooooook

[srceenplay]

If to mafia are gone that leaves 1 left.
So you are implying me last wolf big brain play comes in stirring the pot while not knowing what's going on.

[Dyslexicon]

I'm definitely not a wolf. I will prove it to you. After my flip.

Is there a chance you will read the game?

[srceenplay]

*two