only LP consistent from d1 (but she didn't vote me d1)
interesting.
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that's me after 4 drinks.Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:54 amdunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:52 amlunch me cos yall are jealous of my pretty hairLe petit poussin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:50 ambut but how are we going to lunch you then???dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:48 am i don't even think drwilgy is scummy yet. he's not particularly townie either, so i'm testing the waters with his manageable iso.
please no one follow me anywhere. like fuck, take responsibility for your votes and vote where you think is wolf and stop with the "i followed dunya there" narrative pls.
I can't ensure that you live through the day unless people think I'm scum reading you.
just out here doing the lord's work for me, thank youNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:58 amI can't ensure that you live through the day unless people think I'm scum reading you.
@dunyaLe petit poussin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:53 amI was like "yeah". But then why are you assuming there is a wolf in the CFC gang? (buying LP's early game read?)
@Syn you have a fan, but she is a wolf. RIPLinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:32 pm Honestly Mac dying does look pretty bad for Syn.
Night 1 was the only night where Mafia was guaranteed their kill cannot be stopped.
Mafia not killing Syn is just a huge question mark and killing Mac is always suboptimal.
I totally would lmao (the host can confirm - RIP Ivy)dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:33 pmthat's true, i would never make grave mistakes like spearheading a d1 yeet on a villager as wolf ever. if anyone finds a game where i did that as wolf, you can have an unlimited supply of cookies.dyachei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:30 pmyou're misunderstanding me
The players who suspect you think they've caught you. So my point is that the things they are wolf reading you for are really level 1 reasons. I don't think that's a good reason to wolf read someone who is very skilled as a wolf. usually means thy're a villager
this actually basically makes me IC atp.
who are these players, other than scotty btw?
I actually agree with LP's process here (even more so when Dunya linked to some of her previous scum games) but not the conclusions. Like if anything it's Dya who came up with a meta read on dunya, not her who put it upfront first. So who is manipulating who here?LinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:38 pmMeta is worthless when you just openly admitted that you know how to manipulate your own meta.dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:37 pmmeta is kingLinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:35 pmNo you're not going to be able to confirmed Town yourself for mislynching day 1 just because you claim you wouldn't do that as Mafia.dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:33 pmthat's true, i would never make grave mistakes like spearheading a d1 yeet on a villager as wolf ever. if anyone finds a game where i did that as wolf, you can have an unlimited supply of cookies.dyachei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:30 pmyou're misunderstanding me
The players who suspect you think they've caught you. So my point is that the things they are wolf reading you for are really level 1 reasons. I don't think that's a good reason to wolf read someone who is very skilled as a wolf. usually means thy're a villager
this actually basically makes me IC atp.
who are these players, other than scotty btw?
Best you can do is NAI for that. And really it isn't NAI since you just admitted you knew scum you wouldn't do that meaning you could just have done that knowing it'd clear you.
It's really hard to read you as anything other than Mafia blatantly trying to abuse their own meta right now.
i'm kind of offended you think this of my play right now, but also not offended.Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:33 am Dunya’s play today is that of a small, submissive dachshund in a playpen of Rottweilers.
It’s a bizarre play for a w!dunya. Just looking at the last game she linked to me where she was bad, she never dropped her hunting in favor of…whatever this is. Granted, Wilgy red checked her at top of D2 in that game, so her behavior is perhaps marred by having to fend that off.
I dunno. It could all be a shtick, but I find it more interesting to watch the Rottweilers nip at her
they're in this set:
yes, that was my least favorite dyachei contribution in the game so far.Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:45 amI actually agree with LP's process here (even more so when Dunya linked to some of her previous scum games) but not the conclusions. Like if anything it's Dya who came up with a meta read on dunya, not her who put it upfront first. So who is manipulating who here?LinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:38 pmMeta is worthless when you just openly admitted that you know how to manipulate your own meta.dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:37 pmmeta is kingLinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:35 pmNo you're not going to be able to confirmed Town yourself for mislynching day 1 just because you claim you wouldn't do that as Mafia.dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:33 pmthat's true, i would never make grave mistakes like spearheading a d1 yeet on a villager as wolf ever. if anyone finds a game where i did that as wolf, you can have an unlimited supply of cookies.dyachei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:30 pmyou're misunderstanding me
The players who suspect you think they've caught you. So my point is that the things they are wolf reading you for are really level 1 reasons. I don't think that's a good reason to wolf read someone who is very skilled as a wolf. usually means thy're a villager
this actually basically makes me IC atp.
who are these players, other than scotty btw?
Best you can do is NAI for that. And really it isn't NAI since you just admitted you knew scum you wouldn't do that meaning you could just have done that knowing it'd clear you.
It's really hard to read you as anything other than Mafia blatantly trying to abuse their own meta right now.
I'd much rather play with "hard to read but having fun dunya" than "easy to read but is miserable dunya".dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:49 ami'm kind of offended you think this of my play right now, but also not offended.Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:33 am Dunya’s play today is that of a small, submissive dachshund in a playpen of Rottweilers.
It’s a bizarre play for a w!dunya. Just looking at the last game she linked to me where she was bad, she never dropped her hunting in favor of…whatever this is. Granted, Wilgy red checked her at top of D2 in that game, so her behavior is perhaps marred by having to fend that off.
I dunno. It could all be a shtick, but I find it more interesting to watch the Rottweilers nip at her
do you prefer me to talk to myself in the thread? game is dead. people arent here. i would rather be a team player and let people make reads and read them than just spam the game.
also, i have been burdened by mafia for the last couple of years and i'm trying to play in a way that optimizes my enjoyment. this is the second game in a row where i'm "having fun" and enjoying myself---so expect this version of me to stay if i keep playing mafia!
the cfc gang was a joke add-on, cos i townread the rest of you (you, hk and syn). i have no strong read on dolby either way at this point. i've just never seen him play this much ever and it's bizarre and threw me for a loop.Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:11 am@dunyaLe petit poussin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:53 amI was like "yeah". But then why are you assuming there is a wolf in the CFC gang? (buying LP's early game read?)
If what LP has thought is true, they believe:Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:20 am@Syn you have a fan, but she is a wolf. RIPLinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:32 pm Honestly Mac dying does look pretty bad for Syn.
Night 1 was the only night where Mafia was guaranteed their kill cannot be stopped.
Mafia not killing Syn is just a huge question mark and killing Mac is always suboptimal.
(well I am kinda joking about this one because it is so blatant - "look I didn't kill Mac")
No, on the contrary- I’m reading you more as town because of it.dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:49 ami'm kind of offended you think this of my play right now, but also not offended.Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:33 am Dunya’s play today is that of a small, submissive dachshund in a playpen of Rottweilers.
It’s a bizarre play for a w!dunya. Just looking at the last game she linked to me where she was bad, she never dropped her hunting in favor of…whatever this is. Granted, Wilgy red checked her at top of D2 in that game, so her behavior is perhaps marred by having to fend that off.
I dunno. It could all be a shtick, but I find it more interesting to watch the Rottweilers nip at her
do you prefer me to talk to myself in the thread? game is dead. people arent here. i would rather be a team player and let people make reads and read them than just spam the game.
also, i have been burdened by mafia for the last couple of years and i'm trying to play in a way that optimizes my enjoyment. this is the second game in a row where i'm "having fun" and enjoying myself---so expect this version of me to stay if i keep playing mafia!
for cred?hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:49 amthey're in this set:
LP
Jack
Marmot
TSP
Urist
DrWigley
with a side of Dunya sus I can't shake but don't want to believe in.
I think the following are town:
HK obvs
Rask
Syn
Dolby
Scotty
NAA
Dyachei
Sig is a null and I'm assuming if Sig wolf Sig has been prompted numerous times to show up and do something. TSP makes my wolf list b/c he seems somewhat fixated on why sig exists, feels like a pre-associated attempted clear. That assumes Sig flips wolf but if he does TSP looks weird to me for wanting to know why Sig is still alive.
yea, i'm seeing a lot of differences in her reads and pushes and a sort of "narrower" vision here which i credit to be townier than scummier in narrowing the pool of suspects.dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:03 am LPs GoC 2021 iso for my reference when i have more than 10mins search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=a&sr=posts&t=22 ... 85%09&ch=0
i'm still thinking about this post.dyachei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:30 pmyou're misunderstanding me
The players who suspect you think they've caught you. So my point is that the things they are wolf reading you for are really level 1 reasons. I don't think that's a good reason to wolf read someone who is very skilled as a wolf. usually means thy're a villager
I fail to see why you are treated me any different than both HK and you tbh. It's not like Mac said anything convincing outside "Raskol is a wolf". It's not like it got any traction. So, what are you up to heh?Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:03 amIf what LP has thought is true, they believe:Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:20 am@Syn you have a fan, but she is a wolf. RIPLinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:32 pm Honestly Mac dying does look pretty bad for Syn.
Night 1 was the only night where Mafia was guaranteed their kill cannot be stopped.
Mafia not killing Syn is just a huge question mark and killing Mac is always suboptimal.
(well I am kinda joking about this one because it is so blatant - "look I didn't kill Mac")
-Mac was widely scum read by…people. Just from looking through Mac’s iso: (NAA, chicken, urist and LP all weighed in on that)
-killing someone widely scumread is suboptimal
-Syn was someone that Mac found sus?
But why does this particularly look bad for Syn again? Mac basically doesn’t even mention him.
Actually, now that I’ve properly looked through Mac’s iso, he had a mini back and forth with chicken where they were both calling bullshit to each other. Mac even voted chicken for a bit, and then circles back 24 hours later to again call chicken scum.
Earlier on, TSP was someone mac said was wolf, and I didn’t see him change opinion on either.
At the end, mac made clear that HK and myself were wolves, even going so far as to say with his dying breath “sheep me if I die” on HK.
MY CONCLUSION:
-LP’s narrative is that Mac dying looks bad for Syn, because no one scumread Syn (not true btw) and Mac was a suboptimal NK. While I feel this is distracting, and Syn isn’t the one that should have been NK’d, I do agree with LP’s line of thinking that mafia wouldn’t just kill mac for no reason when they’re not at risk of being blocked N1
-Mac’s death actually looks worst for le petit poisson, who Mac came back throughout the day to call wolf.
-Mac’s death looks great for HK imo and to a lesser extent me: an easy frame job that a wolf could point to and go “SEE? SEE? He said HK and Scotty were bad with his dying breath!”
But if you look at the bigger picture, mac was chicken’s biggest detractor throughout the day. Mac could just be a throwaway kill but I’m looking at a different angle: If there’s someone that would want Mac dead, it would be chicken.
-LP floating Syn’s name is just bizarre. It’s an independent thought that Syn looks wolfy ONLY because they weren’t killed because obviously they were the unanimous Townread. That viewpoint is so foreign, it’s on Mars.
Pulling poussin town to scumlean. More to come
That doesn't enter into it at all but okay.dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:38 amDid you just iso me or read thread context why I voted Scotty?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:34 pmThis series of posts from Dunya is a joke, right?
I’m at the point of auto yeeting her if Scotty flips wolf.
I town read him yesterday, came into today feeling like a big loser, voted with Syn, then decided I couldn't cos I town read him.
I don't understand how so many people are missing that. I never said Scotty did x that was scummy.
it does feel that way yes.Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:13 amfor cred?hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:49 amthey're in this set:
LP
Jack
Marmot
TSP
Urist
DrWigley
with a side of Dunya sus I can't shake but don't want to believe in.
I think the following are town:
HK obvs
Rask
Syn
Dolby
Scotty
NAA
Dyachei
Sig is a null and I'm assuming if Sig wolf Sig has been prompted numerous times to show up and do something. TSP makes my wolf list b/c he seems somewhat fixated on why sig exists, feels like a pre-associated attempted clear. That assumes Sig flips wolf but if he does TSP looks weird to me for wanting to know why Sig is still alive.
wat enters into it then?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:21 amThat doesn't enter into it at all but okay.dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:38 amDid you just iso me or read thread context why I voted Scotty?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:34 pmThis series of posts from Dunya is a joke, right?
I’m at the point of auto yeeting her if Scotty flips wolf.
I town read him yesterday, came into today feeling like a big loser, voted with Syn, then decided I couldn't cos I town read him.
I don't understand how so many people are missing that. I never said Scotty did x that was scummy.
ugh that little chicken shit...Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:21 am All of Mac’s interactions with le petit poussin:The exasperation coming from poussin is palpable. Dunya comments that this argument looks like v/v, and mac questions this.Spoiler: show
In the end, he doesn’t back down that chicken is mafia an hour before EoD. But chicken ain’t getting chopped, so he goes back to the Scotty/HK affair.
I legit think Mac was chicken’s biggest and maybe one of his only detractor(s), and killing mac only helps keep chicken in townland.
I’m entering it from the question: why would mafia kill mac?Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:20 amI fail to see why you are treated me any different than both HK and you tbh. It's not like Mac said anything convincing outside "Raskol is a wolf". It's not like it got any traction. So, what are you up to heh?Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:03 amIf what LP has thought is true, they believe:Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:20 am@Syn you have a fan, but she is a wolf. RIPLinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:32 pm Honestly Mac dying does look pretty bad for Syn.
Night 1 was the only night where Mafia was guaranteed their kill cannot be stopped.
Mafia not killing Syn is just a huge question mark and killing Mac is always suboptimal.
(well I am kinda joking about this one because it is so blatant - "look I didn't kill Mac")
-Mac was widely scum read by…people. Just from looking through Mac’s iso: (NAA, chicken, urist and LP all weighed in on that)
-killing someone widely scumread is suboptimal
-Syn was someone that Mac found sus?
But why does this particularly look bad for Syn again? Mac basically doesn’t even mention him.
Actually, now that I’ve properly looked through Mac’s iso, he had a mini back and forth with chicken where they were both calling bullshit to each other. Mac even voted chicken for a bit, and then circles back 24 hours later to again call chicken scum.
Earlier on, TSP was someone mac said was wolf, and I didn’t see him change opinion on either.
At the end, mac made clear that HK and myself were wolves, even going so far as to say with his dying breath “sheep me if I die” on HK.
MY CONCLUSION:
-LP’s narrative is that Mac dying looks bad for Syn, because no one scumread Syn (not true btw) and Mac was a suboptimal NK. While I feel this is distracting, and Syn isn’t the one that should have been NK’d, I do agree with LP’s line of thinking that mafia wouldn’t just kill mac for no reason when they’re not at risk of being blocked N1
-Mac’s death actually looks worst for le petit poisson, who Mac came back throughout the day to call wolf.
-Mac’s death looks great for HK imo and to a lesser extent me: an easy frame job that a wolf could point to and go “SEE? SEE? He said HK and Scotty were bad with his dying breath!”
But if you look at the bigger picture, mac was chicken’s biggest detractor throughout the day. Mac could just be a throwaway kill but I’m looking at a different angle: If there’s someone that would want Mac dead, it would be chicken.
-LP floating Syn’s name is just bizarre. It’s an independent thought that Syn looks wolfy ONLY because they weren’t killed because obviously they were the unanimous Townread. That viewpoint is so foreign, it’s on Mars.
Pulling poussin town to scumlean. More to come
I was exasperated yesterday too, and if I look at it in a vacuum? Town.
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:44 am Dunya trying to pocket people & push DrWilgy in the same way she pushed Creature D1.
you voted for creature too, so you have no leg to stand on, buddyJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:27 amNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:44 am Dunya trying to pocket people & push DrWilgy in the same way she pushed Creature D1.
If Raskol is a wolf he has me firmly in his pocket and I"m one of his loudest supporters. Getting me across the line on the death of Mac feels like a wolf pipe-dream situation. I'm town read by lots of people, definitely more than I'm wolf read by. Getting me chopped off of the mac death is a stretch.Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:26 amI’m entering it from the question: why would mafia kill mac?Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:20 amI fail to see why you are treated me any different than both HK and you tbh. It's not like Mac said anything convincing outside "Raskol is a wolf". It's not like it got any traction. So, what are you up to heh?Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:03 amIf what LP has thought is true, they believe:Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:20 am@Syn you have a fan, but she is a wolf. RIPLinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:32 pm Honestly Mac dying does look pretty bad for Syn.
Night 1 was the only night where Mafia was guaranteed their kill cannot be stopped.
Mafia not killing Syn is just a huge question mark and killing Mac is always suboptimal.
(well I am kinda joking about this one because it is so blatant - "look I didn't kill Mac")
-Mac was widely scum read by…people. Just from looking through Mac’s iso: (NAA, chicken, urist and LP all weighed in on that)
-killing someone widely scumread is suboptimal
-Syn was someone that Mac found sus?
But why does this particularly look bad for Syn again? Mac basically doesn’t even mention him.
Actually, now that I’ve properly looked through Mac’s iso, he had a mini back and forth with chicken where they were both calling bullshit to each other. Mac even voted chicken for a bit, and then circles back 24 hours later to again call chicken scum.
Earlier on, TSP was someone mac said was wolf, and I didn’t see him change opinion on either.
At the end, mac made clear that HK and myself were wolves, even going so far as to say with his dying breath “sheep me if I die” on HK.
MY CONCLUSION:
-LP’s narrative is that Mac dying looks bad for Syn, because no one scumread Syn (not true btw) and Mac was a suboptimal NK. While I feel this is distracting, and Syn isn’t the one that should have been NK’d, I do agree with LP’s line of thinking that mafia wouldn’t just kill mac for no reason when they’re not at risk of being blocked N1
-Mac’s death actually looks worst for le petit poisson, who Mac came back throughout the day to call wolf.
-Mac’s death looks great for HK imo and to a lesser extent me: an easy frame job that a wolf could point to and go “SEE? SEE? He said HK and Scotty were bad with his dying breath!”
But if you look at the bigger picture, mac was chicken’s biggest detractor throughout the day. Mac could just be a throwaway kill but I’m looking at a different angle: If there’s someone that would want Mac dead, it would be chicken.
-LP floating Syn’s name is just bizarre. It’s an independent thought that Syn looks wolfy ONLY because they weren’t killed because obviously they were the unanimous Townread. That viewpoint is so foreign, it’s on Mars.
Pulling poussin town to scumlean. More to come
I know I’m town, and if HK is wolf, it’s much too on the nose to want to kill mac for that. So I needed to look deeper into the killchoice.
And if it’s not for me or HK…it was you. And to a lesser extent TSP, but mac doesn’t circle around on TSP’s wolfiness throughout the day.
I think you two know each other, and this NK was your decision to not only knock off one of your only detractors, but also to attempt to frame me or HK.
"I legit think Mac was chicken’s biggest and maybe one of his only detractor(s), and killing mac only helps keep chicken in townland."Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:21 am All of Mac’s interactions with le petit poussin:The exasperation coming from poussin is palpable. Dunya comments that this argument looks like v/v, and mac questions this.Spoiler: show
In the end, he doesn’t back down that chicken is mafia an hour before EoD. But chicken ain’t getting chopped, so he goes back to the Scotty/HK affair.
I legit think Mac was chicken’s biggest and maybe one of his only detractor(s), and killing mac only helps keep chicken in townland.