Fortune of Lies [Gameover Mafia Win)

[Paopan]

I still don't trust NAA. But I believe we need some info regarding this slot.

She is vague.. to me.

[NotAnAxehole]

You are an interesting person with unique choices that I cannot fully comprehend just yet.

I think surrender is normal for new town players who don't fully understand that dying as town is bad. The same player is likely to fight more or at least not concede as mafia because people think dying as town doesn't matter. it's a common Syndicate town strat actually (I see JJJ cringe every time I post this)

I agree, just trying to think if he is actualyl intentionally doing that.
TBH from MafiaScum I remember this type of play to be explicitly (intentional or not) banable so it's interesting actually seeing it.

If it were a ban on TS, the site would have have issued a lot of bans in my short time here.

[NotAnAxehole]

I still don't trust NAA. But I believe we need some info regarding this slot.

She is vague.. to me.

This is a reasonable take, do you want me to make a post that you can lie detect?

[LinearPoint]

Yeah I mean obviously it's not, I'm just not used to seeing super obvious townslips like that since people avoid those like the plague on MS.

TBH though Michelle is also on my radar of potentially being a Mafia Cop as Scotty hard town read him no questions asked day 1 and he wasn't the Cop to find a Mafia.

[NotAnAxehole]

Yeah I mean obviously it's not, I'm just not used to seeing super obvious townslips like that since people avoid those like the plague on MS.

TBH though Michelle is also on my radar of potentially being a Mafia Cop as Scotty hard town read him no questions asked day 1 and he wasn't the Cop to find a Mafia.

Michelle got a pass for their scum read on me based on being a level 1 reader, but the longer they sit on my slot, the worse it looks for them.

[NotAnAxehole]

You expect read progression, even in level 1 reads.

[LinearPoint]

Especially since we have a Cop who is limited and Michelle has no such limitations other than his results are flipped which isn't really a limitation when we know that is the case.

[Paopan]

I still don't trust NAA. But I believe we need some info regarding this slot.

She is vague.. to me.

This is a reasonable take, do you want me to make a post that you can lie detect?

Go for it.

"I am town and I swear to my ancestors that I am town.

and I'll check this tonight.

[LinearPoint]

I still don't trust NAA. But I believe we need some info regarding this slot.

She is vague.. to me.

This is a reasonable take, do you want me to make a post that you can lie detect?

Go for it.

"I am town and I swear to my ancestors that I am town.

and I'll check this tonight.

But what if he is a Jester?

[NotAnAxehole]

I still don't trust NAA. But I believe we need some info regarding this slot.

She is vague.. to me.

This is a reasonable take, do you want me to make a post that you can lie detect?

Go for it.

"I am town and I swear to my ancestors that I am town.

and I'll check this tonight.

I'll do you one better, I am doing everything I can to help town win by ensuring they don't kill me.

[Paopan]

What is importance is his credibility.

I am not sure how to count and know all roles cos they don't give me (the mods) a list.

But from what I know as of now. There are 3 mafia (1 is dead) and 3 neutral slot (1 is SK and/or Arsonist, others are just neutrals to confuse town) and rest are town.

Based on the game I have played. That's how it has always have been.

[Paopan]

I still don't trust NAA. But I believe we need some info regarding this slot.

She is vague.. to me.

This is a reasonable take, do you want me to make a post that you can lie detect?

Go for it.

"I am town and I swear to my ancestors that I am town.

and I'll check this tonight.

I'll do you one better, I am doing everything I can to help town win by ensuring they don't kill me.

Okay. You are neutral-neutral then.

[NotAnAxehole]

What is importance is his credibility.

I am not sure how to count and know all roles cos they don't give me (the mods) a list.

But from what I know as of now. There are 3 mafia (1 is dead) and 3 neutral slot (1 is SK and/or Arsonist, others are just neutrals to confuse town) and rest are town.

Based on the game I have played. That's how it has always have been.

Sorry what?

[NotAnAxehole]

There are 4 mafia based on the role PM and 2 neutral based on SoA

[Paopan]

I still don't trust NAA. But I believe we need some info regarding this slot.

She is vague.. to me.

This is a reasonable take, do you want me to make a post that you can lie detect?

Go for it.

"I am town and I swear to my ancestors that I am town.

and I'll check this tonight.

I'll do you one better, I am doing everything I can to help town win by ensuring they don't kill me.

Okay. You are neutral-neutral then.

On the other hand... This might seem invalid to check cos you can be a Mafia wanting town to win.
I change my mind, I don't agree with this.

[NotAnAxehole]

I still don't trust NAA. But I believe we need some info regarding this slot.

She is vague.. to me.

This is a reasonable take, do you want me to make a post that you can lie detect?

Go for it.

"I am town and I swear to my ancestors that I am town.

and I'll check this tonight.

I'll do you one better, I am doing everything I can to help town win by ensuring they don't kill me.

Okay. You are neutral-neutral then.

On the other hand... This might seem invalid to check cos you can be a Mafia wanting town to win.
I change my mind, I don't agree with this.

Tbh, you should check Michelle, or ruri or Joh... Whoever we don't kill

[NotAnAxehole]

You could also ask every player in the game to make a verifiable statement such as : "I am town" and you check whoever you want on that statement. 2nd cop

[LinearPoint]

Paopan do you have any restrictions on your role like a modifier?

[Paopan]

There are 4 mafia based on the role PM and 2 neutral based on SoA

Ohh. Okay.

Is wigly neutral? if yes.
there are only 1 neutral and 3 mafia left.

In all honesty I want to check Michelle cos she's town cored by everyone without mechanical evidence.
I ISOed her but I can't find anything that could make her confiremd town or incriminate her.
That's my way of thinking. So I re-read from page 1 and I found post #524 that he's town. Hence the decision.

[NotAnAxehole]

There are 4 mafia based on the role PM and 2 neutral based on SoA

Ohh. Okay.

Is wigly neutral? if yes.
there are only 1 neutral and 3 mafia left.

In all honesty I want to check Michelle cos she's town cored by everyone without mechanical evidence.
I ISOed her but I can't find anything that could make her confiremd town or incriminate her.
That's my way of thinking. So I re-read from page 1 and I found post #524 that he's town. Hence the decision.

Very few people town read Michelle, those who did are waning on her because her tunnel makes no sense, and there is 0 evolution in her thoughts.

[Paopan]

Paopan do you have any restrictions on your role like a modifier?

Honestly, I don't even know what modifier means...
Other games I played in the past used "custom-themed roles/setups".
This is the first game I play in a "standard" or "vanilla" game or whatever this is called.
My result may be the truth or not.
And host said that there were goin to be times that it cannot verify the information of the said post.

[Paopan]

There are 4 mafia based on the role PM and 2 neutral based on SoA

Ohh. Okay.

Is wigly neutral? if yes.
there are only 1 neutral and 3 mafia left.

In all honesty I want to check Michelle cos she's town cored by everyone without mechanical evidence.
I ISOed her but I can't find anything that could make her confiremd town or incriminate her.
That's my way of thinking. So I re-read from page 1 and I found post #524 that he's town. Hence the decision.

Very few people town read Michelle, those who did are waning on her because her tunnel makes no sense, and there is 0 evolution in her thoughts.

Want to start train on Michelle?
If she flipped mafia we are basically confirmed. Okay?
I am okay with Ruri's flip too. I think she's connected to Marmot.

[LinearPoint]

So what I mean is like are you just a "Town Lie Detector" or do you have some other word between Town and Lie Detector?

[NotAnAxehole]

Paopan do you have any restrictions on your role like a modifier?

Honestly, I don't even know what modifier means...
Other games I played in the past used "custom-themed roles/setups".
This is the first game I play in a "standard" or "vanilla" game or whatever this is called.
My result may be the truth or not.
And host said that there were goin to be times that it cannot verify the information of the said post.

How did you come by TS? I thought you were Gavial's friend for some reason.

[NotAnAxehole]

So what I mean is like are you just a "Town Lie Detector" or do you have some other word between Town and Lie Detector?

LoooooooooooL

[Paopan]

So what I mean is like are you just a "Town Lie Detector" or do you have some other word between Town and Lie Detector?

No words in between

How did you come by TS? I thought you were Gavial's friend for some reason.
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Not Gavial's friend. But I am the son of some British guy named SuperJack.
If that's info you are seeking

[LinearPoint]

An unrestricted Lie Detector? Huh.
That seems a tad overpowered.

[Paopan]

Considering I'm new. I think it's well balanced? I think... host likes me.

[LinearPoint]

If the host handpicked everyone's roles that is a different concern lol.
Just seems odd to me there'd be a Lie Detector with no restrictions since it is theoretically one of the best roles.

[LinearPoint]

I've come to the conclusion the existence of your role is an intentional mind fuck from the host.
That or you're Mafia lol, but if that check got past 2 other players Scotty would be turning in his grave right now.

[Paopan]

Like I said. Is okay for me to get lynched.

[Paopan]

On the other hand, cop can check and confirm.

[LinearPoint]

I mean honestly if we have doc protect MM and have MM check Paopan or Michelle we can get a second confirmed cop like role that would be pretty good even if Mafia does decide to just kill one of them.

[alexa]

@MafiaMenace you really shouldn't be saving your shots as you're bound to get targeted for mafia kill early

[alexa]

I probably won't vote pao

[alexa]

[VOTE: Sig] aubergine

[Michelle]

Fuck it, i'm going with gut and actually following NAA of this for god knows why.
I just have a feeling that Ruri and/or Jack are Mafia based on Scotty's day 1 and leaning more on Jack.

Do you have a quote to demonstrate this?
If not I have to Iso Scotty, that will happen tomorrow though

[NotAnAxehole]

Considering I'm new. I think it's well balanced? I think... host likes me.

I was going to say, host doesn't like you enough to correct a basic night action mistake

[Michelle]

There are 4 mafia based on the role PM and 2 neutral based on SoA

Ohh. Okay.

Is wigly neutral? if yes.
there are only 1 neutral and 3 mafia left.

In all honesty I want to check Michelle cos she's town cored by everyone without mechanical evidence.
I ISOed her but I can't find anything that could make her confiremd town or incriminate her.
That's my way of thinking. So I re-read from page 1 and I found post #524 that he's town. Hence the decision.

Very few people town read Michelle, those who did are waning on her because her tunnel makes no sense, and there is 0 evolution in her thoughts.

Want to start train on Michelle?
If she flipped mafia we are basically confirmed. Okay?
I am okay with Ruri's flip too. I think she's connected to Marmot.

You don't flip the claimed cop, when I flip town you have Alexa confirmed town and that's not enough to win the game
NAA whining I am tunneling him looks hilarious after he wanted to kill me since yday

[NotAnAxehole]

There are 4 mafia based on the role PM and 2 neutral based on SoA

Ohh. Okay.

Is wigly neutral? if yes.
there are only 1 neutral and 3 mafia left.

In all honesty I want to check Michelle cos she's town cored by everyone without mechanical evidence.
I ISOed her but I can't find anything that could make her confiremd town or incriminate her.
That's my way of thinking. So I re-read from page 1 and I found post #524 that he's town. Hence the decision.

Very few people town read Michelle, those who did are waning on her because her tunnel makes no sense, and there is 0 evolution in her thoughts.

Want to start train on Michelle?
If she flipped mafia we are basically confirmed. Okay?
I am okay with Ruri's flip too. I think she's connected to Marmot.

You don't flip the claimed cop, when I flip town you have Alexa confirmed town and that's not enough to win the game
NAA whining I am tunneling him looks hilarious after he wanted to kill me since yday

You should just sheep me at all times.

[NotAnAxehole]

I'm coming around to the idea that Marmot is not town.

[Ruri]

People run to the bang to see a dead body lying there.
It belongs to a guy named Mac.
There was a note attached to his head:
“There is Balance, which is why there is Chaos and Harmony.
Creation may start out Chaotic but it will eventually fade away.”
Upon the death of that man someone couldn’t take their life anymore and died of a stroke, he was Wilgy as they have failed to achieve their win con.

Mac Role Flip:

Spoiler: show

Town FBI Agent
Each night you may check someone to see if they are a Serial Killer

Win Condition: Eliminate all threats to town.

Wilgy Role Flip:

Spoiler: show

Durable Gravedigger Advocate
Each night you may choose a role from the grave and use its ability ignoring modifiers attached to it.
If you would die, you will die at the end of the following day instead.

Win Condition: Make sure Scotty dies before you do and make sure you die before MacDougall or end game together.

Day 3 Start!
Day ends Friday at 6AM PST (Fite Me!)

SK?

[Ruri]

I vote NAA

[NotAnAxehole]

I vote NAA

You realize Michelle is going to be moving off of me in short order yeah?

[alexa]

so we have no useful mech info today?

[NotAnAxehole]

so we have no useful mech info today?

Apparently not.

[NotAnAxehole]

Though, arguably, in hindsight, we may or may not have had useful mech information yesterday, given that Wilgy was bluffing and MafiaMenace wasn't confirmed to be a sane cop or a town cop.

[NotAnAxehole]

Oh yeah, JoH scum slipped.

[Marmot]

Won't be on until later tonight, please don't end day before I can hop on

[NotAnAxehole]

Won't be on until later tonight, please don't end day before I can hop on

This day is going the distance.