Baby Mafia (TOWN WIN)

[tessepia]

that was after subbing in like day 4 to a role madness guillo game with a wolf team in shambles, btw. My WiM couldn't have been lower. Alison saw Mac talk about it in our GC

[Alison]

I don't put any weight on the "I could do better as wolf" argument.

I believe in logic. I don't think either of you decided to make a weird and unnecessary decision as a wolf because YOLO. There is a solid rational justification for whatever it is, and I intend to find it.

[tessepia]

I don't put any weight on the "I could do better as wolf" argument.

I believe in logic. I don't think either of you decided to make a weird and unnecessary decision as a wolf because YOLO. There is a solid rational justification for whatever it is, and I intend to find it.

it's not just "I could do better as a wolf"

It's that if I'm a wolf claiming like this it was PLANNED

And that I have zero reason to affect my game in that way

[EnderWiggin]

Note to self:
If I want to pocket Alison I need to completely yolo a game as wolf.

[EnderWiggin]

I don't put any weight on the "I could do better as wolf" argument.

I believe in logic. I don't think either of you decided to make a weird and unnecessary decision as a wolf because YOLO. There is a solid rational justification for whatever it is, and I intend to find it.

it's not just "I could do better as a wolf"

It's that if I'm a wolf claiming like this it was PLANNED

And that I have zero reason to affect my game in that way

This wine is delicious.

[tessepia]

I don't put any weight on the "I could do better as wolf" argument.

I believe in logic. I don't think either of you decided to make a weird and unnecessary decision as a wolf because YOLO. There is a solid rational justification for whatever it is, and I intend to find it.

it's not just "I could do better as a wolf"

It's that if I'm a wolf claiming like this it was PLANNED

And that I have zero reason to affect my game in that way

This wine is delicious.

do you deny that the way I've played lines up to the game a cop would play?

[Alison]

Note to self:
If I want to pocket Alison I need to completely yolo a game as wolf.

I'm fine with you making intentional -EV decisions in order to make me trust you more as wolf. Not only will me trusting you be cancelled out by the -EV of your decision, the local loose cannons won't trust you anyway and you won't get that deep off it.

[EnderWiggin]

I don't put any weight on the "I could do better as wolf" argument.

I believe in logic. I don't think either of you decided to make a weird and unnecessary decision as a wolf because YOLO. There is a solid rational justification for whatever it is, and I intend to find it.

it's not just "I could do better as a wolf"

It's that if I'm a wolf claiming like this it was PLANNED

And that I have zero reason to affect my game in that way

This wine is delicious.

do you deny that the way I've played lines up to the game a cop would play?

Well, you're not a cop so yes.

But you are putting the perfect model image of a cop into play to make everyone think you are.

[EnderWiggin]

Btw I want to point out:
Scythe Mafia was a perfect example of how Tess (As town) doesn't play the perfect little PR.

[tessepia]

I don't put any weight on the "I could do better as wolf" argument.

I believe in logic. I don't think either of you decided to make a weird and unnecessary decision as a wolf because YOLO. There is a solid rational justification for whatever it is, and I intend to find it.

it's not just "I could do better as a wolf"

It's that if I'm a wolf claiming like this it was PLANNED

And that I have zero reason to affect my game in that way

This wine is delicious.

do you deny that the way I've played lines up to the game a cop would play?

Well, you're not a cop so yes.

But you are putting the perfect model image of a cop into play to make everyone think you are.

then it's not 'wine'

it's true that to be a wolf I deteriorated my game in order to claim cop--that doesn't make sense

It only does as a cop

cause I am

[EnderWiggin]

"I would never play like this as wolf" both PR ccs expound, gladly talking about how they wouldn't do it.

[tessepia]

"I would never play like this as wolf" both PR ccs expound, gladly talking about how they wouldn't do it.

mines actually true tho

[EnderWiggin]

Also it is wine.

Because it's all "Why would x do y"

Which is Wine.

[EnderWiggin]

"I would never play like this as wolf" both PR ccs expound, gladly talking about how they wouldn't do it.

mines actually true tho

Lmao.

Except we both know that's a lie.

[EnderWiggin]

Town might not yet.

But both of us looking at each other right now know that's a lie.

[EnderWiggin]

You won't admit it because you want to win this cc battle.

[tessepia]

lmao yeah sure sure

[EnderWiggin]

While we're on the train of "Things I'd never do as scum" I would probably not claim the Tess/Wilgy diff check lmao.

I'd probably do something like Gav/Falc same.

[tessepia]

I kinda think the reason for Ender's cc on me was just cause he thought it would be fun, lmao

[Alison]

I don't care about this current line of argument because it's dumb.

[Alison]

Mafia are put in a pretty bad position if Tess is mafia and doesn't net the parity cop in her difference check claim.

You agree with this, Ender?

[tessepia]

Mafia are put in a pretty bad position if Tess is mafia and doesn't net the parity cop in her difference check claim.

You agree with this, Ender?

There's also the fact that if I got tracked either night I could simply be CC'd by the tracker

It's an awful claim

[EnderWiggin]

Mafia are put in a pretty bad position if Tess is mafia and doesn't net the parity cop in her difference check claim.

You agree with this, Ender?

Not really.

9 players
3 are wolves
Gavial is obvious non-PR from how he interacted with Tess setting up her claim.

If she misses PR on her 2 then it narrows the field to 3. Parity cop CCs then only 2 left. Easily able to pick up Tracker even if they aren't in the 2.

Tess would want to WIN the cc, of course.

If they lose it does put her team in a worse position, however Tess isn't one that would go into a CC claim thinking she'll lose.

[tessepia]

If they lose it does put her team in a worse position, however Tess isn't one that would go into a CC claim thinking she'll lose.

I mean I still am worried I'm gonna die today tbh

[EnderWiggin]

If they lose it does put her team in a worse position, however Tess isn't one that would go into a CC claim thinking she'll lose.

I mean I still am worried I'm gonna die today tbh

I'm gonna laugh if you claimed parity cop thinking Wilgy was the cop and wasn't expecting my cc.

[EnderWiggin]

Thing I'm looking forward to most:
Reading scumchat and seeing how Tess and co reacted when my checks were Tess/Wilgy

[tessepia]

Mafia are put in a pretty bad position if Tess is mafia and doesn't net the parity cop in her difference check claim.

You agree with this, Ender?

There's also the fact that if I got tracked either night I could simply be CC'd by the tracker

It's an awful claim

btw too with my position in the game overall, I think it's a reasonable assumption that it was pretty likely I had been tracked at some point

[EnderWiggin]

Mafia are put in a pretty bad position if Tess is mafia and doesn't net the parity cop in her difference check claim.

You agree with this, Ender?

There's also the fact that if I got tracked either night I could simply be CC'd by the tracker

It's an awful claim

btw too with my position in the game overall, I think it's a reasonable assumption that it was pretty likely I had been tracked at some point

Did you Claim as roleblocker.

>Wilgy check

>Wilgy got blocked.

[EnderWiggin]

Tess, did you actually just claim as roleblocker.

[EnderWiggin]

You ballsy motherfucker.

[EnderWiggin]

I'm actually impressed.

[tessepia]

Tess, did you actually just claim as roleblocker.

my Wilgy check was n1 and he got blocked n2, so nope

[EnderWiggin]

Hm. Okay. Claiming as RBer is probably too ballsy for this situation.

I thought that was a pretty awesome set up and claim for a moment.

[EnderWiggin]

NGL if you had done that, simulating your checks with blocks, I would've been impressed.

But I should've known it wasn't the case because I wasn't blocked once so.

[EnderWiggin]

I'm actually a dumbass lmao.

[tessepia]

I really don't think anyone should disbelieve my claim considering that fact tbh

the conditions for a wolf claim to work here are just

Not gonna happen

Hit the parity cop in my difference

Wasn't tracked once despite being PoE

Y'know

All of it

[EnderWiggin]

Tbh if you got tracked you actually out both claims which is one goal of your play.

Not hitting Parity cop doesn't matter because you out cop via cc.

[EnderWiggin]

You're devaluing the outcomes to make your choice look better lmao.

[EnderWiggin]

This claim serves two purposes:

1. outs prs

2. changes vill focus.

[tessepia]

Tbh if you got tracked you actually out both claims which is one goal of your play.

Not hitting Parity cop doesn't matter because you out cop via cc.

Parity cop doesn't claim if I get into a CC with the tracker before that

[EnderWiggin]

Both those work if you miss Parity cop and you get tracked.

[EnderWiggin]

Tbh if you got tracked you actually out both claims which is one goal of your play.

Not hitting Parity cop doesn't matter because you out cop via cc.

Parity cop doesn't claim if I get into a CC with the tracker before that

Tracker would have to cc first then. That's just timing dependant.

[tessepia]

Regardless of all this you still imo need to build a team with me where I'm the most sacrificial wolf

Which just isn't a thing

[EnderWiggin]

Do I?

Really?

All I need to do is build a team where you're confident they win if you sac yourself.

[EnderWiggin]

Which exists in an Alison team world already.

[EnderWiggin]

And can exist in a Gira or Wisp team world for differing reasons.

[tessepia]

Do I?

Really?

All I need to do is build a team where you're confident they win if you sac yourself.

if there's a more sacrificial wolf than me I just tell them to claim and what to claim

[EnderWiggin]

Do I?

Really?

All I need to do is build a team where you're confident they win if you sac yourself.

if there's a more sacrificial wolf than me I just tell them to claim and what to claim

Obviously not.

[tessepia]

Do I?

Really?

All I need to do is build a team where you're confident they win if you sac yourself.

if there's a more sacrificial wolf than me I just tell them to claim and what to claim

Obviously not.

Obviously because I'm not a wolf

[EnderWiggin]

Do I?

Really?

All I need to do is build a team where you're confident they win if you sac yourself.

if there's a more sacrificial wolf than me I just tell them to claim and what to claim

Obviously not.

Obviously because I'm not a wolf

"Ladies and gents they've got back around the bend into the 'No u' section of the course! It's neck and neck as they come up the straight. How long will it take for them to stop spending posts calling each other a wolf? Who knows! Let's find out together!"