Baby Mafia (TOWN WIN)

[EnderWiggin]

Luck is town, I do declare,
Unless he's playing odd for me,
He is acting au contraire,
Unless w/w with Wilgy

[Gavial]

Lol I'm just gonna sheep seth

Take the wheel buddy, my reads are your reads now

Apparently your read is to vote yourself

Ok

I've clearly picked the correct shepherd

Honestly.
Lean Town.
Fite Me!

[Luckbox Inc]

How about you stop trying to discredit other people and tell me what your solve is instead.

There is no solve. We're still fairly early on in a game where I have only played with around 1/2 of the players. I think Wilgy is wolfy because their posts come off wolfy to me, and I'm wondering if you're power-wolfing here. Beyond that I'm still working on it.

[Gavial]

It's probably just Gira and Wisp.

Assuming that’s the world we live in.
Who’s their partner?

[EnderWiggin]

Nanook is town, I think as well,
His reads ring clear and true today,
Normal scum Nook will tell,
By playing coy with diplomay

[Gavial]

Hopefully Alison will have some opinion on my alignment come day end.

Lucky is probably town though. Does anyone object? No? Ok good.

Towncore: Lucky, Dizzy.

Both bad posts.

[VOTE: Dizzy] aubergine

dadv

downside of the start time is that i assume most people are busy being responsible with work or school or some nonsense like that


not me though i'm neglecting all my responsibilities, such is my dedication to posting

ThIs is also scum.

Hopefully Alison will have some opinion on my alignment come day end.

Lucky is probably town though. Does anyone object? No? Ok good.

Towncore: Lucky, Dizzy.

Both bad posts.

[VOTE: Dizzy] aubergine

Alison plz

I'm a baby!




Green baby that is, check my inbox if you don't believe me

Villagers are red in Syn games.

Falcon outted.

Baby is spelt green, and Evil Baby is spelt red.



I'd say you're the one who's outted



[VOTE: Luck] aubergine

Lock town.

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

Gira is so badly outed lmao

[VOTE: Gira] aubergine

Alison is town, yes.

(Falcon is also town, but shhh)

This whole sequence is so weird.

Alison quotes a bunch of posts that aren't wolfy at all and calls them wolfy, Dizzy decides to clear her, and then later Alison clears Dizzy (I think).

But I would like some explanation from Alison for why Gira is outed, and I would appreciate if Dizzy could explain what it is about Alison's posting that they found villagery here.

Yeah that’s why I’m really thinking there is scum within Alison/Dizzy.

[Alison]

Luck is town, I do declare,
Unless he's playing odd for me,
He is acting au contraire,
Unless w/w with Wilgy

I don't get this. If he's W/W with Wilgy he can easily sit back and let Wilgy rake in the townreads. In fact given Wilgy's propensity to be exed D1 I suspect a Luckbox that was wolves with Wilgy would be quite relieved to see those townreads and not want to challenge them at all.

[Alison]

It's probably just Gira and Wisp.

Assuming that’s the world we live in.
Who’s their partner?

Luckbox probably.

[Alison]

How about you stop trying to discredit other people and tell me what your solve is instead.

There is no solve. We're still fairly early on in a game where I have only played with around 1/2 of the players. I think Wilgy is wolfy because their posts come off wolfy to me, and I'm wondering if you're power-wolfing here. Beyond that I'm still working on it.

So you don't have strong reads but you're quick to discredit others' and cast shade on them for it.

Got it.

[Gavial]

Nanook is town, I think as well,
His reads ring clear and true today,
Normal scum Nook will tell,
By playing coy with diplomay

I honestly think your town as well.
Never disliked anything you posted and even with your poetic appearance you coming in pushing Wisp and giving reads and the way your doing it feels Townie.

[EnderWiggin]

Luck is town, I do declare,
Unless he's playing odd for me,
He is acting au contraire,
Unless w/w with Wilgy

I don't get this. If he's W/W with Wilgy he can easily sit back and let Wilgy rake in the townreads. In fact given Wilgy's propensity to be exed D1 I suspect a Luckbox that was wolves with Wilgy would be quite relieved to see those townreads and not want to challenge them at all.

Luck as wolf tends bussing way,
And cannot help but sus his friend,
To sus like that, of all today,
If wolf, then wolf until the end.

In this game it's I alone,
That he would try to fool on this,
Because for others to atone,
The meta tells that are my bliss.

[Gavial]

It's probably just Gira and Wisp.

Assuming that’s the world we live in.
Who’s their partner?

Luckbox probably.

Why specifically him over everyone else.
There are a couple players who barely even posted.
Is Luckbox just your third scum read?

[Luckbox Inc]

Let me give you a helping hand.

You maintain that there is nothing wolfy about Gira and nothing townie about Wilgy. That means my solve is ass-backwards. Assume I am town. Who do you think is trying to egg me on into a bad solve or stand by while I tunnel a townie?

I'm willing to consider to idea that I'm completely wrong and that you are not. I think Wilgy's posts are fairly ok on tone and I could see Gira being a wolf.

But to answer your question-- not sure but probably Dizzy, and I do feel like something is going on between the two of you. You initially called Dizzy wolfy for making some standard Dizzy posts, and then backed off that after they cleared Wilgy for making a nothing post that a person shouldn't be cleared for.

Realistically that should mean that the wolf team is not you/Dizzy/Wilgy-- as wolves wouldn't typically link themselves together like that so easily-- but I wonder..

[EnderWiggin]

Nanook is town, I think as well,
His reads ring clear and true today,
Normal scum Nook will tell,
By playing coy with diplomay

I honestly think your town as well.
Never disliked anything you posted and even with your poetic appearance you coming in pushing Wisp and giving reads and the way your doing it feels Townie.

I hope this read persists,
When other pieces fall,
Instead of you insists,
Jack/Ender is the call.

[Millium]

@Gavial
this feels like Osie's game 2.0
should I just tunnel Alison?

Going from "I should sheep Alison to see what her results are" to "maybe I should tunnel Alison" when I scumread the person I said I was scumreading is a terrible progression.

Because you are either a town with god reads or you are a wolf tmi'ing.

[Gavial]

Nanook is town, I think as well,
His reads ring clear and true today,
Normal scum Nook will tell,
By playing coy with diplomay

I honestly think your town as well.
Never disliked anything you posted and even with your poetic appearance you coming in pushing Wisp and giving reads and the way your doing it feels Townie.

I hope this read persists,
When other pieces fall,
Instead of you insists,
Jack/Ender is the call.

Ah making a reference to last game eh?
Lol.

[Millium]

@Dyslexicon
Well that was an interesting jump in town from earlier, to your response to Seth

[Gavial]

Don’t worry man your part of my cult.
I have Nanook and Ender in my Cult now!

[Luckbox Inc]

How about you stop trying to discredit other people and tell me what your solve is instead.

There is no solve. We're still fairly early on in a game where I have only played with around 1/2 of the players. I think Wilgy is wolfy because their posts come off wolfy to me, and I'm wondering if you're power-wolfing here. Beyond that I'm still working on it.

So you don't have strong reads but you're quick to discredit others' and cast shade on them for it.

Got it.

I'm here participating in the game and trying to figure it out. It's pretty rare for me to have super strong reads early unless I have a lot of meta with a person, which I do not yet have with anyone here. But that doesn't preclude from me from discrediting other's reads and throwing shade around.

[EnderWiggin]

@Gavial
this feels like Osie's game 2.0
should I just tunnel Alison?

Going from "I should sheep Alison to see what her results are" to "maybe I should tunnel Alison" when I scumread the person I said I was scumreading is a terrible progression.

Because you are either a town with god reads or you are a wolf tmi'ing.

What?
Why?
That?
Cry?

"TMI" for Gira's Sus?
Can you please explain?
Are you saying you wanna bus?
Or am I misreading something plain?

[Millium]

@Gavial
this feels like Osie's game 2.0
should I just tunnel Alison?

Going from "I should sheep Alison to see what her results are" to "maybe I should tunnel Alison" when I scumread the person I said I was scumreading is a terrible progression.

Because you are either a town with god reads or you are a wolf tmi'ing.

What?
Why?
That?
Cry?

"TMI" for Gira's Sus?
Can you please explain?
Are you saying you wanna bus?
Or am I misreading something plain?

I'm not talking about her wolf reads, that should be fairly obvious, I'm talking about her town reads? Hello???

[Luckbox Inc]

@Dyslexicon
Well that was an interesting jump in town from earlier, to your response to Seth

Who is Seth?

[Millium]

Also I'm not giving Nanook a town lean, idk what ender is talking about, but Nanook hasn't done anything. Except try to be funny so far

[EnderWiggin]

Hmmm. Perhaps be clear,
When responding a post,
Where she, such a dear,
Is talking of her scumread most.

[Millium]

@Dyslexicon
Well that was an interesting jump in town from earlier, to your response to Seth

Who is Seth?

Well reading my post, town should have been tone, and Seth is Gaviel

[Millium]

Hmmm. Perhaps be clear,
When responding a post,
Where she, such a dear,
Is talking of her scumread most.

Coming from the dude writing in posts, ironic

[Millium]

Writing in poems*
I'm going to make s coffee

[EnderWiggin]

Also I'm not giving Nanook a town lean, idk what ender is talking about, but Nanook hasn't done anything. Except try to be funny so far

Nanook and I a friendly duel,
Where we try to find the town,
It makes for lovely fuel,
When we put the wrong read down.

[Gavial]

@Dyslexicon
Well that was an interesting jump in town from earlier, to your response to Seth

Who is Seth?

Your looking at em!

[EnderWiggin]

Hmmm. Perhaps be clear,
When responding a post,
Where she, such a dear,
Is talking of her scumread most.

Coming from the dude writing in posts, ironic

Impression such to managed be,
By the player makings posts,
I have chosen, intentionally,
To make it hard to parse my boasts.

This is good and bad as well,
For others try to listen in,
Until I find it hard to tell,
Why tunnels bring us to a win.

[Gavial]

Also I'm not giving Nanook a town lean, idk what ender is talking about, but Nanook hasn't done anything. Except try to be funny so far

Idk man.
Usually when someone says they want to sheep me it’s usually a good look.

[Luckbox Inc]

Also I'm not giving Nanook a town lean, idk what ender is talking about, but Nanook hasn't done anything. Except try to be funny so far

Having just wolfed with Nanook, I'd give him a town-lean except that it's super exploitable and not worth much. But basically he's not trying as hard as he did in our wolfgame together.

I'm sure he can still be a wolf here pretty easily tough.

[Gavial]

Although that was just a joke I think the way Nanook presented it was pure.
So I’m just gonna go with it!

[Gavial]

Never thought I’d see the day I actually town lean Nanook but Um I did it!

[Alison]

Let me give you a helping hand.

You maintain that there is nothing wolfy about Gira and nothing townie about Wilgy. That means my solve is ass-backwards. Assume I am town. Who do you think is trying to egg me on into a bad solve or stand by while I tunnel a townie?

I'm willing to consider to idea that I'm completely wrong and that you are not. I think Wilgy's posts are fairly ok on tone and I could see Gira being a wolf.

But to answer your question-- not sure but probably Dizzy, and I do feel like something is going on between the two of you. You initially called Dizzy wolfy for making some standard Dizzy posts, and then backed off that after they cleared Wilgy for making a nothing post that a person shouldn't be cleared for.

Realistically that should mean that the wolf team is not you/Dizzy/Wilgy-- as wolves wouldn't typically link themselves together like that so easily-- but I wonder..

I think people calling our dynamic out as weird are weird.

I scumread his early posts. Then I realized he had the exact same reads as me so I townread him.

This is normal and it is questionable to try to pretend like it's a sketchy dynamic.

Also, given that Dizzy made his reads before I made mine, and I townread Dizzy because his reads that were already in the thread matched up with my own thoughts as I caught up, what makes you think that Dizzy is the one trying to pocket/egg me on?

[Alison]

@Gavial
this feels like Osie's game 2.0
should I just tunnel Alison?

Going from "I should sheep Alison to see what her results are" to "maybe I should tunnel Alison" when I scumread the person I said I was scumreading is a terrible progression.

Because you are either a town with god reads or you are a wolf tmi'ing.

What do you think the chances of me being town with wrong reads is?

[Millium]

Also I'm not giving Nanook a town lean, idk what ender is talking about, but Nanook hasn't done anything. Except try to be funny so far

Having just wolfed with Nanook, I'd give him a town-lean except that it's super exploitable and not worth much. But basically he's not trying as hard as he did in our wolfgame together.

I'm sure he can still be a wolf here pretty easily tough.

I think Nanook can easily play this funny game as a wolf as early stages in the game, so ya, Im not saying he is a wolf here, i just do t think he deserves the town lean that ender is giving him

[Alison]

How about you stop trying to discredit other people and tell me what your solve is instead.

There is no solve. We're still fairly early on in a game where I have only played with around 1/2 of the players. I think Wilgy is wolfy because their posts come off wolfy to me, and I'm wondering if you're power-wolfing here. Beyond that I'm still working on it.

So you don't have strong reads but you're quick to discredit others' and cast shade on them for it.

Got it.

I'm here participating in the game and trying to figure it out. It's pretty rare for me to have super strong reads early unless I have a lot of meta with a person, which I do not yet have with anyone here. But that doesn't preclude from me from discrediting other's reads and throwing shade around.

It's fine if you don't have strong reads early. I think it's hypocritical to not be able to form strong reads early, but go around pretending like others are reading into stuff that's NAI. Either you can confidently evaluate early posts' scumminess/townieness early or not. If the answer is yes you should have no problem having strong reads early. If the answer is no then what makes you so sure that eg. Gira's posts aren't scummy or that Wilgy's posts aren't townie?

[Gavial]

Let me give you a helping hand.

You maintain that there is nothing wolfy about Gira and nothing townie about Wilgy. That means my solve is ass-backwards. Assume I am town. Who do you think is trying to egg me on into a bad solve or stand by while I tunnel a townie?

I'm willing to consider to idea that I'm completely wrong and that you are not. I think Wilgy's posts are fairly ok on tone and I could see Gira being a wolf.

But to answer your question-- not sure but probably Dizzy, and I do feel like something is going on between the two of you. You initially called Dizzy wolfy for making some standard Dizzy posts, and then backed off that after they cleared Wilgy for making a nothing post that a person shouldn't be cleared for.

Realistically that should mean that the wolf team is not you/Dizzy/Wilgy-- as wolves wouldn't typically link themselves together like that so easily-- but I wonder..

I think people calling our dynamic out as weird are weird.

I scumread his early posts. Then I realized he had the exact same reads as me so I townread him.

This is normal and it is questionable to try to pretend like it's a sketchy dynamic.

Also, given that Dizzy made his reads before I made mine, and I townread Dizzy because his reads that were already in the thread matched up with my own thoughts as I caught up, what makes you think that Dizzy is the one trying to pocket/egg me on?

I think what really bothers me about you is the fact you say if Dizzy votes Gira and Gira flips Red, Dizzy is “Probably Town”, then in the next post you call them “Probably Town” anyways.

[Millium]

@Gavial
this feels like Osie's game 2.0
should I just tunnel Alison?

Going from "I should sheep Alison to see what her results are" to "maybe I should tunnel Alison" when I scumread the person I said I was scumreading is a terrible progression.

Because you are either a town with god reads or you are a wolf tmi'ing.

What do you think the chances of me being town with wrong reads is?

That depends on Gira's alignments, I'm not giving two chances to be wrong as town if you are going to play like this. You already called me a wolf, so you are already slightly on my shit list for being wrong

[Gavial]

It was like what’s the purpose of the Previous.
Why are you no concerned that Dizzy is still voting their TR and hasn’t stated intent to vote anyone else.

[Alison]

Let me give you a helping hand.

You maintain that there is nothing wolfy about Gira and nothing townie about Wilgy. That means my solve is ass-backwards. Assume I am town. Who do you think is trying to egg me on into a bad solve or stand by while I tunnel a townie?

I'm willing to consider to idea that I'm completely wrong and that you are not. I think Wilgy's posts are fairly ok on tone and I could see Gira being a wolf.

But to answer your question-- not sure but probably Dizzy, and I do feel like something is going on between the two of you. You initially called Dizzy wolfy for making some standard Dizzy posts, and then backed off that after they cleared Wilgy for making a nothing post that a person shouldn't be cleared for.

Realistically that should mean that the wolf team is not you/Dizzy/Wilgy-- as wolves wouldn't typically link themselves together like that so easily-- but I wonder..

I think people calling our dynamic out as weird are weird.

I scumread his early posts. Then I realized he had the exact same reads as me so I townread him.

This is normal and it is questionable to try to pretend like it's a sketchy dynamic.

Also, given that Dizzy made his reads before I made mine, and I townread Dizzy because his reads that were already in the thread matched up with my own thoughts as I caught up, what makes you think that Dizzy is the one trying to pocket/egg me on?

I think what really bothers me about you is the fact you say if Dizzy votes Gira and Gira flips Red, Dizzy is “Probably Town”, then in the next post you call them “Probably Town” anyways.

Someone can be townie for two reasons. I don't get this.

[Millium]

Also someone asked you why Gira is an obvious wolf, and idk if you answered this?

[Alison]

@Gavial
this feels like Osie's game 2.0
should I just tunnel Alison?

Going from "I should sheep Alison to see what her results are" to "maybe I should tunnel Alison" when I scumread the person I said I was scumreading is a terrible progression.

Because you are either a town with god reads or you are a wolf tmi'ing.

What do you think the chances of me being town with wrong reads is?

That depends on Gira's alignments, I'm not giving two chances to be wrong as town if you are going to play like this. You already called me a wolf, so you are already slightly on my shit list for being wrong

[VOTE: Wisp] aubergine

[Millium]

It was like what’s the purpose of the Previous.
Why are you no concerned that Dizzy is still voting their TR and hasn’t stated intent to vote anyone else.

Kekw

[Luckbox Inc]

Let me give you a helping hand.

You maintain that there is nothing wolfy about Gira and nothing townie about Wilgy. That means my solve is ass-backwards. Assume I am town. Who do you think is trying to egg me on into a bad solve or stand by while I tunnel a townie?

I'm willing to consider to idea that I'm completely wrong and that you are not. I think Wilgy's posts are fairly ok on tone and I could see Gira being a wolf.

But to answer your question-- not sure but probably Dizzy, and I do feel like something is going on between the two of you. You initially called Dizzy wolfy for making some standard Dizzy posts, and then backed off that after they cleared Wilgy for making a nothing post that a person shouldn't be cleared for.

Realistically that should mean that the wolf team is not you/Dizzy/Wilgy-- as wolves wouldn't typically link themselves together like that so easily-- but I wonder..

I think people calling our dynamic out as weird are weird.

I scumread his early posts. Then I realized he had the exact same reads as me so I townread him.

This is normal and it is questionable to try to pretend like it's a sketchy dynamic.

Also, given that Dizzy made his reads before I made mine, and I townread Dizzy because his reads that were already in the thread matched up with my own thoughts as I caught up, what makes you think that Dizzy is the one trying to pocket/egg me on?

Re your approach to Dizzy: that's all fine and reasonable.

It's Dizzy's approach to you and the way Dizzy started clearing you basically instantly that I find odd. And some of that might be because in the only other game I played with you the two of you together, Dizzy tunneled you for the entire game, but it seems odd that you would get an insta-clear.

[Millium]

Someone ping me when Ender and Alison start making better posts.

[Alison]

I think Wisp is undergoing some severe cognitive dissonance re: their treatment of me. They are the right vote regardless because I think evidence points to them in every world. If Gira is scum then they are scum for early Gira interactions. But the latest posts by Wisps have given me the uncomfortable feeling that they have TMI on Gira and are setting up the foundation to get me voted out after Gira flips town.

I will guard against that scenario by voting Wisp regardless.

[Alison]

Let me give you a helping hand.

You maintain that there is nothing wolfy about Gira and nothing townie about Wilgy. That means my solve is ass-backwards. Assume I am town. Who do you think is trying to egg me on into a bad solve or stand by while I tunnel a townie?

I'm willing to consider to idea that I'm completely wrong and that you are not. I think Wilgy's posts are fairly ok on tone and I could see Gira being a wolf.

But to answer your question-- not sure but probably Dizzy, and I do feel like something is going on between the two of you. You initially called Dizzy wolfy for making some standard Dizzy posts, and then backed off that after they cleared Wilgy for making a nothing post that a person shouldn't be cleared for.

Realistically that should mean that the wolf team is not you/Dizzy/Wilgy-- as wolves wouldn't typically link themselves together like that so easily-- but I wonder..

I think people calling our dynamic out as weird are weird.

I scumread his early posts. Then I realized he had the exact same reads as me so I townread him.

This is normal and it is questionable to try to pretend like it's a sketchy dynamic.

Also, given that Dizzy made his reads before I made mine, and I townread Dizzy because his reads that were already in the thread matched up with my own thoughts as I caught up, what makes you think that Dizzy is the one trying to pocket/egg me on?

Re your approach to Dizzy: that's all fine and reasonable.

It's Dizzy's approach to you and the way Dizzy started clearing you basically instantly that I find odd. And some of that might be because in the only other game I played with you the two of you together, Dizzy tunneled you for the entire game, but it seems odd that you would get an insta-clear.

uhhhhh you mean the game where he was scum?

[Millium]

The only reason that dissonance exists is because you and ender are playing in a way that makes this game unfun for me to interact with, so my posts are being less about solving and more about being oetty