Smilies Mafia - GAME END

[TonyStarkPrime]

ok game has been derailed

[Poison]

I AM NOT IN THIS GAME @RondoDimBuckle GWWWWWWAAA

Poison! I didn't see you until now, what do you think of the game so far?

I AM TOWN. EVERYONE ELSE IS A SCUM. @MartinGG99 Sorry for the guest appearance I'll be going now.

[TonyStarkPrime]

tbh mafia needs more guest appearances

[EnderWiggin]

I bet you anything Rondo is cracking up rn.

If he isn't it's because he hasn't seen this yet.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Oh my lord, she actually responded HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[TonyStarkPrime]

timed

[RondoDimBuckle]

Oh my lord, she actually responded HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I bet you anything Rondo is cracking up rn.

If he isn't it's because he hasn't seen this yet.

Ender casually seeing the future

[ilario]

[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine

A big part of it is Gav's confidence in his TR on me. He's got no reason to be so confident, and doesn't have a track record (like for example TSP does) of accurately reading me, so I have no clue how he could be so confident

He's hinting mechanical information imo.

The 2X mailman & neighborizer also gets mech info on a town slot? So, Dyson got 3, and Gav got 1?


I mean, at what point is this just ludicrous?

If much rather believe dyson’s ludicrous role over any info Gav has supposedly gained

I'm still not buying Dyson's claim either (who looks for town & not scum w/ an investigation?), but that slot should resolve itself. Gav tho, nah I just don't see it.

I've read that question a couple times in the thread now. OK, so first, to remind you, this is only the third game of mafia that I have played in a very long time and even when I did play it a long time ago, I never strategized as much as people in professional mafia communities do. (Plus I died early in the first of these three, so it doesn't even count)

And secondly, as people pointed out, it is a weird claim, not a typical cop claim. Now if I were scum, I wouldn't have come up with it, but I concede that someone on my team could have coached me to give a fake claim.

Now, as a town player, I actually didn't know for sure who other people clearly read as towncore. In my mind, no one was confirmed town, so I didn't know that I should have ignored any players for being towncleared already. So I picked the ones that I thought were towniest, and I had hoped that I had gotten the right ones, but I had no idea they were already cleared.

And if you're asking why I didn't pick poe players instead, I was under the impression that a result saying all three targets were the same alignment (town) would be more useful to town game, because it's unambiguous. Maybe you guys with all your strategizing might have enlightened me why an ambiguous result would be more useful than an unambiguous result. But at the time, knowing that I don't have any particularly insightful cases of my own to make, didn't deem it wise to share my ability before I had the chance to use it. Now it's done.

Maybe we'll have some more time later to discuss the usefulness of an ambiguous versus an unambiguous result. I just know, had I picked two users who I'm pretty sure are town (and I don't have strong trust in my own townreads) and one user that I think was poe, and the result was an ambiguous answer, then I still wouldn't know for sure whether my poe pick was scum or whether my poe pick was town and one or two of my town picks were scum, or maybe even all three scum.

Again, I don't know half as much about game strategy as you all, but I think personally, I would always prefer an unambiguous result. Even if I picked my top 3 scum reads, it might just be one of them scum and the other two innocent, but an ambiguous result would make me doubt all of them. Because it could also be two scum or all three scum.

I hope that answers not just this post I quoted but also some other questions directed towards me that I read in the thread. I should have posted more today, but I really had a lot to deal with today. I won't be able to post anything else for 16 hours starting now, but then I should have time to make a couple more high quality posts.

Honestly I have no issues with the way dyson used their ability. Getting 3 clears is by far the most optimal use of it. Dyson when you have time can you please elaborate what made myself Scotty and rondo your top 3 townreads ?

[ilario]

Mannnnnn what’s wrong with me? I can’t bring myself to sr gav I find almost all of his posts to be towny

[ilario]

I need
More from lc today

[ilario]

If it sounds like I don't care about that answer...I really don't.

I think TSP should be the dust off today though.

Why though??

[EnderWiggin]

I have changed my mind.

I could vote LC

[Lime Coke]

If it sounds like I don't care about that answer...I really don't.

I think TSP should be the dust off today though.

Why though??

I was sheeping you. Thought you had the reasoning for it.

[Lime Coke]

Keep in mind we have like...5 potential clears? Dyson and his 3 "Innos," Rondo with the jailkeep.

Possibly Gavial with the neighborhood that he's used on Falcon? If Gavial thinks Falcon is town based off of the neighborhood then who am I to question it?

That leaves only a few people that can be mafia.

[Gavial]

LC, Jack, Dyson is my order of operation rn

let's do it and see where we end up tbh tbh
but i'd like to like remove gavial as an agent of chaos and I'd like to do that before he does whatever he normally does and the world collapses

We all know you won’t vote Jack.

[Gavial]

Mannnnnn what’s wrong with me? I can’t bring myself to sr gav I find almost all of his posts to be towny

That’s because I’m town

[Gavial]

I have changed my mind.

I could vote LC

Orrrrrr
We cannot vote an ML on TSP/Jack’s to do list.
@Scotty
See this is what I mean.
How can I know for sure TSP dies tomorrow?

[Gavial]

Keep in mind we have like...5 potential clears? Dyson and his 3 "Innos," Rondo with the jailkeep.

Possibly Gavial with the neighborhood that he's used on Falcon? If Gavial thinks Falcon is town based off of the neighborhood then who am I to question it?

That leaves only a few people that can be mafia.

Assuming people are smart and take my word and my analysis for it then we auto win as Falcon will be locked town.

Or

They say Gavial is Gavial and doesn’t know what he’s talking about and throws the game to TSP and Jack.

[Gavial]

Even if it somehow happens to be Ender and Jack.
It’s still auto winnable via Falcon being locked town in everyone’s book.

[Gavial]

The issue is though TSP’s posts day 2 don’t feel Townie and neither does his responses today.
He has yet to even pressure let alone case why he SR’s Jack.

[Gavial]

Keep in mind we have like...5 potential clears? Dyson and his 3 "Innos," Rondo with the jailkeep.

Possibly Gavial with the neighborhood that he's used on Falcon? If Gavial thinks Falcon is town based off of the neighborhood then who am I to question it?

That leaves only a few people that can be mafia.

Ok yeah just in case it is Ender and Jack and I’m wrong on TSP.
JK doesn’t clear them when their other buddy can attack.

[Gavial]

Like Ender just makes Jack attack.
Although Rondo could make the big brain play and target Jack again

[Gavial]

I just kinda wanna vote Jack now.
It just seems like the safest bet.

[EnderWiggin]

If we flip a green Rondo is off the leash to make the big brain plays I know he's capable of.

[Gavial]

@TonyStarkPrime
What’s your opinion on a Jack yeet today?

@falcon45ca
Would you be willing to yeet Jack before LC?

@EnderWiggin
What’s your full read on Jack? Especially with his claim.

@Scotty
Would you be willing to do Jack after me instead of TSP if I die today?

@ilario
@Lime Coke
Could you guys plz trust me here and vote Jack with me?

[Gavial]

If we flip a green Rondo is off the leash to make the big brain plays I know he's capable of.

What exactly do you mean? Like he can or can’t make the play?
Why specifically mention “big brain” out of what I said regarding you/Jack/rondo and not mention anything else?

[RondoDimBuckle]

Like Ender just makes Jack attack.
Although Rondo could make the big brain play and target Jack again

its unlikely they give kill to jack again IF jack was the wolf

[Gavial]

Like Ender just makes Jack attack.
Although Rondo could make the big brain play and target Jack again

its unlikely they give kill to jack again IF jack was the wolf

They will if they know they’ll be roleblocked.

[Gavial]

Funny enough at first day 1 I had the pairing of Scotty and Jack aligned with each other but according to Dyson that isn’t possible so lol.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Like Ender just makes Jack attack.
Although Rondo could make the big brain play and target Jack again

its unlikely they give kill to jack again IF jack was the wolf

They will if they know they’ll be roleblocked.

so who are you blocking while I jail?

[EnderWiggin]

@EnderWiggin
What’s your full read on Jack? Especially with his claim.

Wait claim?

I've been focusing on other things but I didn't see a claim

[EnderWiggin]

If we flip a green Rondo is off the leash to make the big brain plays I know he's capable of.

What exactly do you mean? Like he can or can’t make the play?
Why specifically mention “big brain” out of what I said regarding you/Jack/rondo and not mention anything else?

He can. And big brain because I was saying he could be big brain?

This is really weirdly pedantic about my wording lmao.

[EnderWiggin]

Like Ender just makes Jack attack.
Although Rondo could make the big brain play and target Jack again

its unlikely they give kill to jack again IF jack was the wolf

They will if they know they’ll be roleblocked.

so who are you blocking while I jail?

No he's saying if Jack is part of the team then if you're going to jail the other member then the other member makes Jack take the kill.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Like Ender just makes Jack attack.
Although Rondo could make the big brain play and target Jack again

its unlikely they give kill to jack again IF jack was the wolf

They will if they know they’ll be roleblocked.

so who are you blocking while I jail?

No he's saying if Jack is part of the team then if you're going to jail the other member then the other member makes Jack take the kill.

well whats the point of that? I was talking about blocking both so you get both blocks. If we have a hypothetical 'other' there is no point really talking about it. I wanted to know who he thinks the other person is

[EnderWiggin]

His other is TSP isn't it?

He's been harping on about TSP/Jack for days

[RondoDimBuckle]

Isnt it chop today?a

[Gavial]

Like Ender just makes Jack attack.
Although Rondo could make the big brain play and target Jack again

its unlikely they give kill to jack again IF jack was the wolf

They will if they know they’ll be roleblocked.

so who are you blocking while I jail?

If your Jailkeeper you roleblock and protect.

[Gavial]

@EnderWiggin
What’s your full read on Jack? Especially with his claim.

Wait claim?

I've been focusing on other things but I didn't see a claim

There was no claim I wanted to see your reaction.

[RondoDimBuckle]

you didnt read what I said

[Gavial]

you didnt read what I said

Show me

[EnderWiggin]

@EnderWiggin
What’s your full read on Jack? Especially with his claim.

Wait claim?

I've been focusing on other things but I didn't see a claim

There was no claim I wanted to see your reaction.

And what do you think?

[RondoDimBuckle]

Like Ender just makes Jack attack.
Although Rondo could make the big brain play and target Jack again

its unlikely they give kill to jack again IF jack was the wolf

They will if they know they’ll be roleblocked.

so who are you blocking while I jail?

If your Jailkeeper you roleblock and protect.

Here you are explaining my role to me which I already know

Like Ender just makes Jack attack.
Although Rondo could make the big brain play and target Jack again

its unlikely they give kill to jack again IF jack was the wolf

They will if they know they’ll be roleblocked.

so who are you blocking while I jail?

If your Jailkeeper you roleblock and protect.

here is me asking you who you are role blocking while I jail someone else in the hypothetical world where we block both wolves


Otherwise

Like Ender just makes Jack attack.
Although Rondo could make the big brain play and target Jack again

its unlikely they give kill to jack again IF jack was the wolf

They will if they know they’ll be roleblocked.

so who are you blocking while I jail?

If your Jailkeeper you roleblock and protect.

This makes no sense

[EnderWiggin]

He's talking about your Jail roleblocking. Not his own ability.

[EnderWiggin]

Also that highlight is terrible.

[RondoDimBuckle]

I thought it would work like in a .pdf or .doc

[RondoDimBuckle]

[VOTE: no vote ] aubergine

[RondoDimBuckle]

I will be here for another hour I need to think about who I am voting since I wont be around at EOD

[EnderWiggin]

Do NOT yeet Jack.

Yeet in TSP/Gav.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Do NOT yeet Jack.

Yeet in TSP/Gav.

ughhhh I will put my tinfoil away then

[EnderWiggin]

I keep going back and forth on my LC read rn.