Smilies Mafia - GAME END

[EnderWiggin]

Honestly if Dyson red then I wanna say ilario could be scum.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Honestly if Dyson red then I wanna say ilario could be scum.

well if he is its either you or ilario or neither

[EnderWiggin]

It could actually be Dyson/ilario and both voted offwagon early because they didn't expect Jack to buzzer their mate.

[EnderWiggin]

Honestly if Dyson red then I wanna say ilario could be scum.

well if he is its either you or ilario or neither

Honestly, if Dyson flips red and you want to jail me after feel free. I'm happy to be cleared going into endgame.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Honestly if Dyson red then I wanna say ilario could be scum.

well if he is its either you or ilario or neither

Honestly, if Dyson flips red and you want to jail me after feel free. I'm happy to be cleared going into endgame.

I mean that works

[Gavial]

Can you elaborate on why?

Yeah, I don't see it as overly helpful to town. I can jail someone such that they aren't able to participate in the game for a round, can't vote and can't be voted for.

I don't see that as helpful to town really

You know what?

I'm actually agreeing with some other people.

Falcon town.

Mhm indeed.
I’m telling you it’s TSP and Jack.

If its TSP and Jack you need to reconcile why Jack killed Seanzie day one with me if you want me to believe you

He was aiming for a Falcon ML but TSP didn’t want that and wanted a LC ML but Jack didn’t want to vote LC with TSP because it’d look sus so he voted Sean who he stated he had previous suspicion on.

So….why are Jack and Tony so opinionated about misyeets that we decided to yeet a wolf? :wowee:

“We”
“We”
I’m sorry, what?

[Gavial]

Honestly if Dyson red then I wanna say ilario could be scum.

well if he is its either you or ilario or neither

Honestly, if Dyson flips red and you want to jail me after feel free. I'm happy to be cleared going into endgame.

I mean that works

Or you can choose me.

[Gavial]

Also this Jack dude thinks “We” applies to him and TSP regarding the wagon on Sean.

[falcon45ca]

the point is if dyson's doing this as a wolf where's his wolf buddy? where would his wolf buddy be usually? and we find out information about this by observing nks etc

Then we keep playing Mafia and find out.


I'm not at all concerned about the lynch after next tbh. 1 flip at a time fellas

[Gavial]

My man Jack. Tell me what you’ve been watching lately so I can watch some of it.

[Gavial]

the point is if dyson's doing this as a wolf where's his wolf buddy? where would his wolf buddy be usually? and we find out information about this by observing nks etc

Then we keep playing Mafia and find out.


I'm not at all concerned about the lynch after next tbh. 1 flip at a time fellas

How do we know Dyson isn’t some other weird role?
We don’t, so it’s best to get rid of him to clear 3 other players.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Yeah, I don't see it as overly helpful to town. I can jail someone such that they aren't able to participate in the game for a round, can't vote and can't be voted for.

I don't see that as helpful to town really

You know what?

I'm actually agreeing with some other people.

Falcon town.

Mhm indeed.
I’m telling you it’s TSP and Jack.

If its TSP and Jack you need to reconcile why Jack killed Seanzie day one with me if you want me to believe you

He was aiming for a Falcon ML but TSP didn’t want that and wanted a LC ML but Jack didn’t want to vote LC with TSP because it’d look sus so he voted Sean who he stated he had previous suspicion on.

So….why are Jack and Tony so opinionated about misyeets that we decided to yeet a wolf? :wowee:

“We”
“We”
I’m sorry, what?

We. Me and Tony. Your proposed wolfteam.

[Jackofhearts2005]

My man Jack. Tell me what you’ve been watching lately so I can watch some of it.

Code Geass and Despirate Housewives.

[falcon45ca]

the point is if dyson's doing this as a wolf where's his wolf buddy? where would his wolf buddy be usually? and we find out information about this by observing nks etc

Then we keep playing Mafia and find out.


I'm not at all concerned about the lynch after next tbh. 1 flip at a time fellas

How do we know Dyson isn’t some other weird role?
We don’t, so it’s best to get rid of him to clear 3 other players.

Why would Dyson flipping wolf clear 3 other players? You don't think he may have snuck in a teammate?

[falcon45ca]

I had a special ability that I could only use in night 2. I used it and I learned that ilario, Rondo and Scotty are town. Wow, what a quality post this is. Everybody, you're welcome.

Does it just list 3 town?

No, I had to target 3 players and the result would say either fail = all 3 are town, or not fail = at least one of them not town. But since the result said fail, I interpret this data meaning that those 3 players are town.

I had a special ability that I could only use in night 2. I used it and I learned that ilario, Rondo and Scotty are town. Wow, what a quality post this is. Everybody, you're welcome.

A) what is the name of this ability and B) why did you check these 3?

The role card didn't provide a name, it was just a text box without a title.
Because I was looking to find three town players, so I targeted the three whom I had the most interactions with. And the result hopefully means they're town.

Which means, if you can believe me, that the four of us are confirmed town. If you still lynch me, I will flip town, so you will have proof that what I said was honest.
If someone of those three flips, they will be town. If they were mafia, that would mean my action was broken. I guess. But it's probably correct as I laid out.

Why would you look to find 3 town players?


You have an investigative role, and you wanted to find town? Not scum?


Huh. That's a new one on me

[Scotty]

I’m rereading Day 1 and looking through the voters on Seanzie for potential bussers.

It’s me, Ender, Jack and Like Coke that end up there. Out of those, LC is the one I remember the least, so I looked back at Lime Coke’s ISO through the lens of Sean’s partner, and I might be on to something.

Not quoting too much because it’s late and I’m gonna go to bed soon but
-starts the Seanzie voting early on D1 based on that “pranay rule”.
-Keeps the vote on Seanzie as Alison and myself vote there. -makes a read list with Seanzie as the lone Scumread. Good look
Then he is absent for a while. When he returns, he makes a comment replying to Rondo about something he had maybe found suspicious, but stands firm with a “Still townleaning him and preferred Seanzie over him.” Another good look.
In response to Sean’s perceived scumminess: “ If Seanzie is town then I don't understand this site at all.” man, LC is on fire right now.

3.5 hours before EOD, Seanzie posts a little more, followed by LC’s “ Seanzie actually doing something...hm...”
Hm indeed. Getting cold feet?
In response to nothing: “ Honestly I don't have another option besides an OMGUS on Nanook. I think Rondo is fine. And Sean was just 1 read so meh.”
I must note that he italicized ‘fine’ and ‘meh’. As if to make a firm point on his noncommittal attitude towards either player.
So votes are tied if I recall on rondo and Seanzie


Skip to 30 min before EoD. He just rose from his coffin to feast on mortal blood sleep and is ready to change things up in response to game state thoughts: “ Meh, don't think the day has had much progress, so possibly TvT wagons with these two? I can't make game state reads to save my life.”
Where did that come from?

I think at this point ilario was the lone vote on falcon. LC proposes:

“Falcon's an interesting choice... however my problem is that I've scumread him every game because he breaks every scumtell in my book and never looks completely towny. I gotta look at his iso hold on.”
Jack jumps on it though, and votes falcon. LC seems to come to the same conclusion that he’s probably scum because he’s not looking towny or whatever. Sure. Ok. So they commiserate and LC votes there too.

And this is pure genius:

I believe in myself lol

I wouldn't even blame you for being wrong here, if he doesn't towntell it's kinda on him.

Because if falcon goes over, jack led that charge, and it’s one of those “did you see what she was wearing- She was practically asking for it” justifications comes out. Easy to blame elsewhere but himself.

So now! Falcon (and rondo) has 3 votes and Seanzie has 2. Convenient. I know this because our helpful friend Rondo tells us:

10 minutes out

Spoiler: show

Alison
0
No votes
Voters: None
Dyson sphere
0
No votes
Voters: None
EnderWiggin
0
No votes
Voters: None
falcon45ca
3
17%
Voters: ilario, Lime Coke, Jackofhearts2005
Gavial
1
6%
Voters: Dyson sphere
ilario
0
No votes
Voters: None
Jackofhearts2005
0
No votes
Voters: None
Lime Coke
2
11%
Voters: RondoDimBuckle, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
0
No votes
Voters: None
RondoDimBuckle
3
17%
Voters: Gavial, TonyStarkPrime, Alison
Scotty
0
No votes
Voters: None
Seanzie
2
11%
Voters: Scotty, EnderWiggin
TonyStarkPrime
0
No votes
Voters: None
Skip
0
No votes
Voters: None
Host/Other
7
39%

It’s important to note that if LC is bad, his reads seem to come from an organic place. He added to another low wagon and garnered support there and didn’t just pop onto Rondo. Smart play.

Rondo calls them both sus for switching so close to EoD. LC’s response: “ I literally stated I have a townread on you and I'm switching based on game state read. Why would that be sus at all?”
Blames it on the stale game state and like get off my case bro, real teenager hiding the smell of weed on his jacket from his parents

Rondo silently (as far as LC can tell) votes for LC: “ Rondo was voting him and silently switched to me it looked like.”

And LC almost immediately afterward switches back to Seanzie. Which ties up the vote I think Seanzie 3, Rondo 3.
Again, helpful Rondo at 5 min out:

5 minutes out

Spoiler: show

Alison
0
No votes
Voters: None
Dyson sphere
0
No votes
Voters: None
EnderWiggin
0
No votes
Voters: None
falcon45ca
2
11%
Voters: ilario, Jackofhearts2005
Gavial
1
6%
Voters: Dyson sphere
ilario
0
No votes
Voters: None
Jackofhearts2005
0
No votes
Voters: None
Lime Coke
3
17%
Voters: TonyStarkPrime, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, RondoDimBuckle
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
0
No votes
Voters: None
RondoDimBuckle
2
11%
Voters: Gavial, Alison
Scotty
0
No votes
Voters: None
Seanzie
3
17%
Voters: Lime Coke, Scotty, EnderWiggin
TonyStarkPrime
0
No votes
Voters: None
Skip
0
No votes

Now LC knows he can’t vote Rondo here without being suspicious, and he himself is tied for lead chop. He didn’t have to switch away from falcon. That’s the biggest hang up you could have with LC being scum at all, but opportunity is fleeting and the end of day was a bit manic.

(I also must note that during this last 5 min kerfuffle, TSP asks the thread if he should vote LC, to which jack responds “nah, I like his process.” And Ender defends LC wondering why he’s even on the block. Because TSP does vote here, I would say they are not partnered)

1 min, still tied. LC makes a final plea to lynch Nook, Rondo, TSP, Ms Frizzle, the Easter Bunny, Antonio Banderes and the far kid from the sandlot if he goes over. Because he is “obviously town here”.

Then his buddy jack, who he pocketed 30 minutes prior with that falcon switcheroo, rescues him and destroys Sean.

So that happened.


Fast forward to day 2. Lime Coke comes into thread without any WIM. Literally Eeyore.

Today? Same. Doesn’t have the gumption. Could it be his partner was lynched and he was also on the chopping block and it’s probably best to rest on his laurels until this whole thing blows over?

That’s a perspective.

[TonyStarkPrime]

the point is if dyson's doing this as a wolf where's his wolf buddy? where would his wolf buddy be usually? and we find out information about this by observing nks etc

Then we keep playing Mafia and find out.


I'm not at all concerned about the lynch after next tbh. 1 flip at a time fellas

How do we know Dyson isn’t some other weird role?
We don’t, so it’s best to get rid of him to clear 3 other players.

Why would Dyson flipping wolf clear 3 other players? You don't think he may have snuck in a teammate?

I think he's tmiing dyson town tbh

[TonyStarkPrime]

but it's gav so it's always hard to say

[TonyStarkPrime]

but like "dyson is town so let's kill him" is clearly the least coherent of the positions

[Scotty]

It could actually be Dyson/ilario and both voted offwagon early because they didn't expect Jack to buzzer their mate.

This is also possible.

Either way, today we simply must know if dyson just threw out a Hail Mary gambit or he is town’s savior

[Dyson sphere]

Actually

if Dyson has another shot, they kill him before or during night 4 because he will confirm 3 more town

Sorry, my ability was only one shot.

[falcon45ca]

I’m rereading Day 1 and looking through the voters on Seanzie for potential bussers.

It’s me, Ender, Jack and Like Coke that end up there. Out of those, LC is the one I remember the least, so I looked back at Lime Coke’s ISO through the lens of Sean’s partner, and I might be on to something.

Not quoting too much because it’s late and I’m gonna go to bed soon but
-starts the Seanzie voting early on D1 based on that “pranay rule”.
-Keeps the vote on Seanzie as Alison and myself vote there. -makes a read list with Seanzie as the lone Scumread. Good look
Then he is absent for a while. When he returns, he makes a comment replying to Rondo about something he had maybe found suspicious, but stands firm with a “Still townleaning him and preferred Seanzie over him.” Another good look.
In response to Sean’s perceived scumminess: “ If Seanzie is town then I don't understand this site at all.” man, LC is on fire right now.

3.5 hours before EOD, Seanzie posts a little more, followed by LC’s “ Seanzie actually doing something...hm...”
Hm indeed. Getting cold feet?
In response to nothing: “ Honestly I don't have another option besides an OMGUS on Nanook. I think Rondo is fine. And Sean was just 1 read so meh.”
I must note that he italicized ‘fine’ and ‘meh’. As if to make a firm point on his noncommittal attitude towards either player.
So votes are tied if I recall on rondo and Seanzie


Skip to 30 min before EoD. He just rose from his coffin to feast on mortal blood sleep and is ready to change things up in response to game state thoughts: “ Meh, don't think the day has had much progress, so possibly TvT wagons with these two? I can't make game state reads to save my life.”
Where did that come from?

I think at this point ilario was the lone vote on falcon. LC proposes:

“Falcon's an interesting choice... however my problem is that I've scumread him every game because he breaks every scumtell in my book and never looks completely towny. I gotta look at his iso hold on.”
Jack jumps on it though, and votes falcon. LC seems to come to the same conclusion that he’s probably scum because he’s not looking towny or whatever. Sure. Ok. So they commiserate and LC votes there too.

And this is pure genius:

I believe in myself lol

I wouldn't even blame you for being wrong here, if he doesn't towntell it's kinda on him.

Because if falcon goes over, jack led that charge, and it’s one of those “did you see what she was wearing- She was practically asking for it” justifications comes out. Easy to blame elsewhere but himself.

So now! Falcon (and rondo) has 3 votes and Seanzie has 2. Convenient. I know this because our helpful friend Rondo tells us:

10 minutes out

Spoiler: show

Alison
0
No votes
Voters: None
Dyson sphere
0
No votes
Voters: None
EnderWiggin
0
No votes
Voters: None
falcon45ca
3
17%
Voters: ilario, Lime Coke, Jackofhearts2005
Gavial
1
6%
Voters: Dyson sphere
ilario
0
No votes
Voters: None
Jackofhearts2005
0
No votes
Voters: None
Lime Coke
2
11%
Voters: RondoDimBuckle, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
0
No votes
Voters: None
RondoDimBuckle
3
17%
Voters: Gavial, TonyStarkPrime, Alison
Scotty
0
No votes
Voters: None
Seanzie
2
11%
Voters: Scotty, EnderWiggin
TonyStarkPrime
0
No votes
Voters: None
Skip
0
No votes
Voters: None
Host/Other
7
39%

It’s important to note that if LC is bad, his reads seem to come from an organic place. He added to another low wagon and garnered support there and didn’t just pop onto Rondo. Smart play.

Rondo calls them both sus for switching so close to EoD. LC’s response: “ I literally stated I have a townread on you and I'm switching based on game state read. Why would that be sus at all?”
Blames it on the stale game state and like get off my case bro, real teenager hiding the smell of weed on his jacket from his parents

Rondo silently (as far as LC can tell) votes for LC: “ Rondo was voting him and silently switched to me it looked like.”

And LC almost immediately afterward switches back to Seanzie. Which ties up the vote I think Seanzie 3, Rondo 3.
Again, helpful Rondo at 5 min out:

5 minutes out

Spoiler: show

Alison
0
No votes
Voters: None
Dyson sphere
0
No votes
Voters: None
EnderWiggin
0
No votes
Voters: None
falcon45ca
2
11%
Voters: ilario, Jackofhearts2005
Gavial
1
6%
Voters: Dyson sphere
ilario
0
No votes
Voters: None
Jackofhearts2005
0
No votes
Voters: None
Lime Coke
3
17%
Voters: TonyStarkPrime, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, RondoDimBuckle
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
0
No votes
Voters: None
RondoDimBuckle
2
11%
Voters: Gavial, Alison
Scotty
0
No votes
Voters: None
Seanzie
3
17%
Voters: Lime Coke, Scotty, EnderWiggin
TonyStarkPrime
0
No votes
Voters: None
Skip
0
No votes

Now LC knows he can’t vote Rondo here without being suspicious, and he himself is tied for lead chop. He didn’t have to switch away from falcon. That’s the biggest hang up you could have with LC being scum at all, but opportunity is fleeting and the end of day was a bit manic.

(I also must note that during this last 5 min kerfuffle, TSP asks the thread if he should vote LC, to which jack responds “nah, I like his process.” And Ender defends LC wondering why he’s even on the block. Because TSP does vote here, I would say they are not partnered)

1 min, still tied. LC makes a final plea to lynch Nook, Rondo, TSP, Ms Frizzle, the Easter Bunny, Antonio Banderes and the far kid from the sandlot if he goes over. Because he is “obviously town here”.

Then his buddy jack, who he pocketed 30 minutes prior with that falcon switcheroo, rescues him and destroys Sean.

So that happened.


Fast forward to day 2. Lime Coke comes into thread without any WIM. Literally Eeyore.

Today? Same. Doesn’t have the gumption. Could it be his partner was lynched and he was also on the chopping block and it’s probably best to rest on his laurels until this whole thing blows over?

That’s a perspective.

Damn, I was that close to going out?


I like this narrative. It's way too much tinfoil to be anything but town, and it's crazy enough that it's probably true.

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: LimeCoke] aubergine

Dyson's slot should resolve itself, I'm fine with waiting to see what happens on that front.

[Scotty]

but like "dyson is town so let's kill him" is clearly the least coherent of the positions

It makes sense if you can set aside emotions about it.

You know.

Like a sociopath

[TonyStarkPrime]

I’m rereading Day 1 and looking through the voters on Seanzie for potential bussers.

It’s me, Ender, Jack and Like Coke that end up there. Out of those, LC is the one I remember the least, so I looked back at Lime Coke’s ISO through the lens of Sean’s partner, and I might be on to something.

Not quoting too much because it’s late and I’m gonna go to bed soon but
-starts the Seanzie voting early on D1 based on that “pranay rule”.
-Keeps the vote on Seanzie as Alison and myself vote there. -makes a read list with Seanzie as the lone Scumread. Good look
Then he is absent for a while. When he returns, he makes a comment replying to Rondo about something he had maybe found suspicious, but stands firm with a “Still townleaning him and preferred Seanzie over him.” Another good look.
In response to Sean’s perceived scumminess: “ If Seanzie is town then I don't understand this site at all.” man, LC is on fire right now.

3.5 hours before EOD, Seanzie posts a little more, followed by LC’s “ Seanzie actually doing something...hm...”
Hm indeed. Getting cold feet?
In response to nothing: “ Honestly I don't have another option besides an OMGUS on Nanook. I think Rondo is fine. And Sean was just 1 read so meh.”
I must note that he italicized ‘fine’ and ‘meh’. As if to make a firm point on his noncommittal attitude towards either player.
So votes are tied if I recall on rondo and Seanzie


Skip to 30 min before EoD. He just rose from his coffin to feast on mortal blood sleep and is ready to change things up in response to game state thoughts: “ Meh, don't think the day has had much progress, so possibly TvT wagons with these two? I can't make game state reads to save my life.”
Where did that come from?

I think at this point ilario was the lone vote on falcon. LC proposes:

“Falcon's an interesting choice... however my problem is that I've scumread him every game because he breaks every scumtell in my book and never looks completely towny. I gotta look at his iso hold on.”
Jack jumps on it though, and votes falcon. LC seems to come to the same conclusion that he’s probably scum because he’s not looking towny or whatever. Sure. Ok. So they commiserate and LC votes there too.

And this is pure genius:

I believe in myself lol

I wouldn't even blame you for being wrong here, if he doesn't towntell it's kinda on him.

Because if falcon goes over, jack led that charge, and it’s one of those “did you see what she was wearing- She was practically asking for it” justifications comes out. Easy to blame elsewhere but himself.

So now! Falcon (and rondo) has 3 votes and Seanzie has 2. Convenient. I know this because our helpful friend Rondo tells us:

10 minutes out

Spoiler: show

Alison
0
No votes
Voters: None
Dyson sphere
0
No votes
Voters: None
EnderWiggin
0
No votes
Voters: None
falcon45ca
3
17%
Voters: ilario, Lime Coke, Jackofhearts2005
Gavial
1
6%
Voters: Dyson sphere
ilario
0
No votes
Voters: None
Jackofhearts2005
0
No votes
Voters: None
Lime Coke
2
11%
Voters: RondoDimBuckle, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
0
No votes
Voters: None
RondoDimBuckle
3
17%
Voters: Gavial, TonyStarkPrime, Alison
Scotty
0
No votes
Voters: None
Seanzie
2
11%
Voters: Scotty, EnderWiggin
TonyStarkPrime
0
No votes
Voters: None
Skip
0
No votes
Voters: None
Host/Other
7
39%

It’s important to note that if LC is bad, his reads seem to come from an organic place. He added to another low wagon and garnered support there and didn’t just pop onto Rondo. Smart play.

Rondo calls them both sus for switching so close to EoD. LC’s response: “ I literally stated I have a townread on you and I'm switching based on game state read. Why would that be sus at all?”
Blames it on the stale game state and like get off my case bro, real teenager hiding the smell of weed on his jacket from his parents

Rondo silently (as far as LC can tell) votes for LC: “ Rondo was voting him and silently switched to me it looked like.”

And LC almost immediately afterward switches back to Seanzie. Which ties up the vote I think Seanzie 3, Rondo 3.
Again, helpful Rondo at 5 min out:

5 minutes out

Spoiler: show

Alison
0
No votes
Voters: None
Dyson sphere
0
No votes
Voters: None
EnderWiggin
0
No votes
Voters: None
falcon45ca
2
11%
Voters: ilario, Jackofhearts2005
Gavial
1
6%
Voters: Dyson sphere
ilario
0
No votes
Voters: None
Jackofhearts2005
0
No votes
Voters: None
Lime Coke
3
17%
Voters: TonyStarkPrime, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, RondoDimBuckle
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
0
No votes
Voters: None
RondoDimBuckle
2
11%
Voters: Gavial, Alison
Scotty
0
No votes
Voters: None
Seanzie
3
17%
Voters: Lime Coke, Scotty, EnderWiggin
TonyStarkPrime
0
No votes
Voters: None
Skip
0
No votes

Now LC knows he can’t vote Rondo here without being suspicious, and he himself is tied for lead chop. He didn’t have to switch away from falcon. That’s the biggest hang up you could have with LC being scum at all, but opportunity is fleeting and the end of day was a bit manic.

(I also must note that during this last 5 min kerfuffle, TSP asks the thread if he should vote LC, to which jack responds “nah, I like his process.” And Ender defends LC wondering why he’s even on the block. Because TSP does vote here, I would say they are not partnered)

1 min, still tied. LC makes a final plea to lynch Nook, Rondo, TSP, Ms Frizzle, the Easter Bunny, Antonio Banderes and the far kid from the sandlot if he goes over. Because he is “obviously town here”.

Then his buddy jack, who he pocketed 30 minutes prior with that falcon switcheroo, rescues him and destroys Sean.

So that happened.


Fast forward to day 2. Lime Coke comes into thread without any WIM. Literally Eeyore.

Today? Same. Doesn’t have the gumption. Could it be his partner was lynched and he was also on the chopping block and it’s probably best to rest on his laurels until this whole thing blows over?

That’s a perspective.

fwiw I said all of this about LC at the end of day 1 (in my head possibly) but then he threw a temper tantrum and apparently that's towny and we're not allowed to like keep talking about it because that's mean

[TonyStarkPrime]

i wanna vote with falcon and so i will vote:lime coke

[EnderWiggin]

I'll re-ISO LC but I had thought he did the towny thing.

Except maybe he's worked out what the towny thing is and is using it against me.

[Scotty]

I’m less inclined to vote LC today, only because I have a tendency to tunnel when I get a seed of doubt in this case, and dyson has a lot of question marks that should resolve first

[Scotty]

I'll re-ISO LC but I had thought he did the towny thing.

Except maybe he's worked out what the towny thing is and is using it against me.

Oh, this is that meta read tell that you won’t talk about or else he’ll catch on?

[EnderWiggin]

I'll re-ISO LC but I had thought he did the towny thing.

Except maybe he's worked out what the towny thing is and is using it against me.

Oh, this is that meta read tell that you won’t talk about or else he’ll catch on?

I mean, I hinted at it and I mentioned some of the info in Buckets if you wanna reread that whole giant case.

[Scotty]

If dyson is scum, you really have to question what the end game is here. It’s a gamble and if he’s caught with a ridiculous claim, it’s almost virtually game over for his team.

I will say, when I was lynched D1 when we were partners, he didn’t have any cool claim up his sleeve to save the day. He really fizzled out until town just lynched him.
This could be a drastic wolf gameplay switch, but I’m more inclined to think he’s trying to be helpful town.

[TonyStarkPrime]

fwiw i do the same thing with falcon in every game we play

[EnderWiggin]

That's why I said that his partner would've had to give him that claim.

[Scotty]

I'll re-ISO LC but I had thought he did the towny thing.

Except maybe he's worked out what the towny thing is and is using it against me.

Oh, this is that meta read tell that you won’t talk about or else he’ll catch on?

I mean, I hinted at it and I mentioned some of the info in Buckets if you wanna reread that whole giant case.

Probably not, don’t want to read more than I have to these days with free time not on my wide.

So that could very well be the case. His voting on D1 just seemed legit in memory and then on paper looks opportunistic

[Scotty]

That's why I said that his partner would've had to give him that claim.

Breaking down that claim- it’s so ridiculous it just HAS to be real, right? Like, a traditional cop role would be able to clear 1 town and not crowd your potential outs for the POE. Sure, he took 3 towny-looking people and you could say it’s not entirely helpful, but he didn’t need to make it 3 for a fake claim

[falcon45ca]

If dyson is scum, you really have to question what the end game is here. It’s a gamble and if he’s caught with a ridiculous claim, it’s almost virtually game over for his team.

I will say, when I was lynched D1 when we were partners, he didn’t have any cool claim up his sleeve to save the day. He really fizzled out until town just lynched him.
This could be a drastic wolf gameplay switch, but I’m more inclined to think he’s trying to be helpful town.

If Dyson is town and telling the truth, how does the Maf keep 4 confirmed town alive? They can't.

By next RD if Dyson is telling the truth that group of 4 gets smaller.

[falcon45ca]

fwiw i do the same thing with falcon in every game we play

Haha, what's that?

[Lime Coke]

[VOTE: Dyson] aubergine

OMGUS

[Lime Coke]

No...actually....

[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

I'll go here.

[falcon45ca]

That's why I said that his partner would've had to give him that claim.

Breaking down that claim- it’s so ridiculous it just HAS to be real, right? Like, a traditional cop role would be able to clear 1 town and not crowd your potential outs for the POE. Sure, he took 3 towny-looking people and you could say it’s not entirely helpful, but he didn’t need to make it 3 for a fake claim

I'm fine with letting the claim resolve itself, and with claim of 4 cleared town, it has to or Maf is finished.


I'm still baffled at the idea of not hunting Maf with such a role

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: Dyson] aubergine

OMGUS

Hey, we were just talking about you

[falcon45ca]

fwiw i do the same thing with falcon in every game we play

Haha, what's that?

Nvm, I figured it out

[Lime Coke]

[VOTE: Dyson] aubergine

OMGUS

Hey, we were just talking about you

Yup, saw the case.

My answer-

[falcon45ca]

the point is if dyson's doing this as a wolf where's his wolf buddy? where would his wolf buddy be usually? and we find out information about this by observing nks etc

Then we keep playing Mafia and find out.


I'm not at all concerned about the lynch after next tbh. 1 flip at a time fellas

How do we know Dyson isn’t some other weird role?
We don’t, so it’s best to get rid of him to clear 3 other players.

Why would Dyson flipping wolf clear 3 other players? You don't think he may have snuck in a teammate?

I think he's tmiing dyson town tbh

Yeah but Gav's Gav, so who knows

[Lime Coke]

The only thing I'll answer to the case was my switching around was thinking the threadstate was saying Seanzie vs Gav (Or Rondo I can't remember) was TvT wagons since the thread was so stale.

Plus, much like my tunnel on Falcon, I had a bad feeling that my tunnel on Sean was on another town. Which was why you saw my post of "If Sean is actually town here, then I don't understand MS at all." Because there's a lot of players that act so weird as town.

So yeah that explains my vote switching at EOD. Definitely wish I didn't so that I could say that I buried a wolf but I only get like 3/4ths the credit I'd want which is annoying and disappointing.

Like I keep saying I just got super disconnected with the thread and I keep reading posts and nothing is sticking to me.

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: Dyson] aubergine

OMGUS

Hey, we were just talking about you

Yup, saw the case.

My answer-

Funny, I thought you'd have a bit more to say on the subject

[falcon45ca]

Well I'm fine with a POE of LC, Dyson, & Gav right now

[Scotty]

Just ISO’d ilario and don’t remember why I read them as town. Matter of fact, i cased them after the Seanzie flip and the whole thing was icky.

Another thing I noticed is that they made a comment after Seanzie garnered votes calling Seanzie rand>town. Then after I made my case in day 2, they proceeded to go into defensive mode, saying things like “ I didn’t have much of an opinion on seanzie, or most slots at that point since there wasn’t much game related content to go through.”

Then pivoting with redirection:

Spoiler: show

“Though my question to you Scotty is that why is my handling of seanzie one that has high scum equity whereas when I’m concerned on tsp, it seems as though you’re okay to give him a pass? On one hand I wasn’t sure on the wagons so I decided to iso both the slots in contention and the one game related line I found I thought was slightly villagery, whereas tsp actively tried to steer the wagon away from seanzie much more vocally. Why is the latter less concerning to you?”

‘I know I look bad, but this other guy looks way worse and I did nothing wrong officer can you arrest the bad man I just told you about?’

Or my favorite: “There really wasn’t much there for me to interact with or to form a read on. I’m sure if you read the iso yourself even with the power of hindsight on your side, you’ll agree that there’s nothing about those 18 posts that exceedingly scream wolf or town from his posts”

So the argument is nullified by the fact that they looked at Seanzie after thinking he and rondo looked to be t/t, called Seanzie rand>town, and comes back in day 2 conveniently saying they weren’t able to form a read on him. “There’s nothing about those posts that scream wolf or town” except you called him town for those posts so…



Another thing is one of their lasts posts at EOD was to cast doubt at TSP: “I’m not sure how to feel about tsp this eod” before the flip
And then revisiting it as soon as day 2 started: “Tsps eod yesterday is pretty concerning”
No talk of the caught wolf, ready to advance on a target.


Meh. Scummy vibes. Obviously we never lynch this slot unless dyson is red. But if dyson is red, I go here first.

[EnderWiggin]

If dyson is scum, you really have to question what the end game is here. It’s a gamble and if he’s caught with a ridiculous claim, it’s almost virtually game over for his team.

I will say, when I was lynched D1 when we were partners, he didn’t have any cool claim up his sleeve to save the day. He really fizzled out until town just lynched him.
This could be a drastic wolf gameplay switch, but I’m more inclined to think he’s trying to be helpful town.

If Dyson is town and telling the truth, how does the Maf keep 4 confirmed town alive? They can't.

By next RD if Dyson is telling the truth that group of 4 gets smaller.

Rondo dies tonight whether Dyson is telling the truth or not.

Because independantly Rondo's claim is just town.

[EnderWiggin]

No...actually....

[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

I'll go here.

What do you do at night LC