Batman: The Animated Series mafia win

[falcon45ca]

can someone smarter than me read the interactions

Wolfy.


At what point during this game has Kami ever not been full of bravado & confidence? Now a wolf flips and he's all flustered, and won't someone plz smarter than him help him read thru interactions?

[falcon45ca]

@falcon45ca for people who don't know you, it's pretty common for them to scum read you for the way you ask questions

Do you think Seanzie is someone who doesn't know you well enough to still scum read you for the way you ask questions if Seanzie is town?

Sean has played with me enough times to have a feel for my playstyle.

I also feel like you already knew the answer to that question

[falcon45ca]

Too many people too fast on Alison :think:

All the big voices for town rn are pushing that way.

It's highly possible scum see the winds and shift.

Or there are only 2 outside of Alison if she is red and they may have waffled over this without committing.

Who are all the big voices for town, and why are they for town?

[EnderWiggin]

Too many people too fast on Alison :think:

All the big voices for town rn are pushing that way.

It's highly possible scum see the winds and shift.

Or there are only 2 outside of Alison if she is red and they may have waffled over this without committing.

Who are all the big voices for town, and why are they for town?

Esooa because town-meta. And she's pushing things along.

Me, because I know I'm town, and I'm pushing things along

Transcend, because he's an inno doggo, and he's pushing things along.

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: Kami] aubergine

[falcon45ca]

Too many people too fast on Alison :think:

All the big voices for town rn are pushing that way.

It's highly possible scum see the winds and shift.

Or there are only 2 outside of Alison if she is red and they may have waffled over this without committing.

Who are all the big voices for town, and why are they for town?

Esooa because town-meta. And she's pushing things along.

Me, because I know I'm town, and I'm pushing things along

Transcend, because he's an inno doggo, and he's pushing things along.

According to Trans ISO, you're the wolf. He's pushing Alison to get a reaction and thinks Alison might just be a frozen wolf, but asks does Alison freeze as wolf?

Not in my experience she doesn't.

Also, do you often TR players who are pushing you as a wolf?

[falcon45ca]

Kami, Sean, Ender, Tran, Essoa


If that lineup has all 3 wolves, colour me surprised. I feel like there's 2 for sure

[RondoDimBuckle]

Kami, Sean, Ender, Tran, Essoa


If that lineup has all 3 wolves, colour me surprised. I feel like there's 2 for sure

Which two?

[falcon45ca]

Kami, Sean, Ender, Tran, Essoa


If that lineup has all 3 wolves, colour me surprised. I feel like there's 2 for sure

Which two?

Kami & Tran. I think Tran has strong partner equity w/ NAA

[falcon45ca]

Kami, Sean, Ender, Tran, Essoa


If that lineup has all 3 wolves, colour me surprised. I feel like there's 2 for sure

Which two?

What's your POE right now?

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Rondodimbuckle] aubergine

[EnderWiggin]

Too many people too fast on Alison :think:

All the big voices for town rn are pushing that way.

It's highly possible scum see the winds and shift.

Or there are only 2 outside of Alison if she is red and they may have waffled over this without committing.

Who are all the big voices for town, and why are they for town?

Esooa because town-meta. And she's pushing things along.

Me, because I know I'm town, and I'm pushing things along

Transcend, because he's an inno doggo, and he's pushing things along.

According to Trans ISO, you're the wolf. He's pushing Alison to get a reaction and thinks Alison might just be a frozen wolf, but asks does Alison freeze as wolf?

Not in my experience she doesn't.

Also, do you often TR players who are pushing you as a wolf?

No. See Epi push on me when I thought he was scum.

Or Kami's push on me where I'm starting to doubt my earlier townlean because it feels weird.

Trans is just town tho.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Kami, Sean, Ender, Tran, Essoa


If that lineup has all 3 wolves, colour me surprised. I feel like there's 2 for sure

Which two?

What's your POE right now?

Honestly after all the bad blood earlier I mostly checked out. I am thinking Kami is a wolf because they keep focusing me but then they are voting on alison. Which is strange. Esooa did this weird evaluation of me calling me town a bunch but at the end says 'dunno might be scum' Ill know more when I get closer. I dont think You or Ender at the moment but thats mainly because I am choosing to ignore my natural constant suspicion of Ender. Alison needs to actually say something. Sean I am 50/50 on.

[EnderWiggin]

I dare say Alison's lack of posting is NAI.

[RondoDimBuckle]

[VOTE: Rondodimbuckle] aubergine

Any paticular reason? Not that I care just for the group.

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Rondodimbuckle] aubergine

Any paticular reason? Not that I care just for the group.

I want to see what happens. If I would have realized you were voting yourself though, I probably wouldn't have voted you.

[RondoDimBuckle]

lol

[Kami]

can someone smarter than me read the interactions

Wolfy.


At what point during this game has Kami ever not been full of bravado & confidence? Now a wolf flips and he's all flustered, and won't someone plz smarter than him help him read thru interactions?

Why are you acting like you know my personality what so ever

[Kami]

That had more to do with me being lazy and I will never ever go back and read like esooa would

[Alison]

Good morning. I have seen the modkill. I am in danger of being voted out today from a brief skim of the last few pages, so I'm going to claim. I am an Even Night Vigilante and I intend to shoot Epignosis tonight.

Please give me a chance to catch up, thank you.

[EnderWiggin]

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

[Kami]

why epi?

[Alison]

why epi?

I've made it clear that I suspect him. NAA had no meaningful interactions with him that I can remember. I do not believe a generic "you'll all regret it when I flip town!" reaction is at all clearing for a player of Epi's caliber, when threatened with a daykill. I have personally faked many daykills on suspects and this is by far the most common reaction (followed by "it's obviously fake come on guys") regardless of alignment. That there was pressure on him both earlier and when I made my push on him that immediately dissipated at the slightest excuse is also suggestive.

[EnderWiggin]

Vig easy to test.

[EnderWiggin]

Falling asleep rn. Voted Kami because she weird.

[EnderWiggin]

Kami should be happy Epi is vig target since apparently that's my teammate. (Or was that Transcend's sus?)

[Alison]

I agree that Transcend is IC. Begging for NAA to be modkilled and general townie play aside, there is no scum agenda for leaping to my defense when he could have just sat there and let me die.

I am a little concerned that Esooa tried to get me killed because of NAA spew, when I think NAA was either completely trolling (and thus unreliable for spew) or at the very least aware that he would likely die and be able to curtail his spew. The fact that most of his posts are just sarcastic one liners in response to other people reinforces this view. I don't think it's hyper damning for Esooa since I could believe that she genuinely thinks she can mine something out of it, and apparently my posts and not NAA's were what finalized her view. I do think it's weird and she could be scum for it.

[RondoDimBuckle]

I agree that Transcend is IC. Begging for NAA to be modkilled and general townie play aside, there is no scum agenda for leaping to my defense when he could have just sat there and let me die.

I am a little concerned that Esooa tried to get me killed because of NAA spew, when I think NAA was either completely trolling (and thus unreliable for spew) or at the very least aware that he would likely die and be able to curtail his spew. The fact that most of his posts are just sarcastic one liners in response to other people reinforces this view. I don't think it's hyper damning for Esooa since I could believe that she genuinely thinks she can mine something out of it, and apparently my posts and not NAA's were what finalized her view. I do think it's weird and she could be scum for it.

Then why shoot Epi over Esooa?

[Alison]

Because Esooa isn't my top scumread.

[Alison]

My suspects are Rondo, Syn and Kami. I would happily exe Epi, but I doubt I can rack up the support 90 minutes before deadline with multiple people checked out.

[Alison]

Syn kind of vanished except for a brief spurt of posts in self defense after the NAA flip, despite being gung ho for my exe earlier. I could see him being demoralized by it. His "there is nothing clearing me and Alison from being W/W" comment was really bad and I suspect he was trying to tie himself to me if he went down.

[Alison]

can someone smarter than me read the interactions

Wolfy.


At what point during this game has Kami ever not been full of bravado & confidence? Now a wolf flips and he's all flustered, and won't someone plz smarter than him help him read thru interactions?

This is a very salient point actually.

[Alison]

That had more to do with me being lazy and I will never ever go back and read like esooa would

Eh. You phrased the question like you weren't confident in your ability to read the spew, not that you were too lazy to do so.

Why do you want focus on NAA's interactions, when you have argued that NAA was probably an easy bus for mafia and nobody should be given credit for voting him?

[Kami]

That had more to do with me being lazy and I will never ever go back and read like esooa would

Eh. You phrased the question like you weren't confident in your ability to read the spew, not that you were too lazy to do so.

Why do you want focus on NAA's interactions, when you have argued that NAA was probably an easy bus for mafia and nobody should be given credit for voting him?

If I'm calling someone smarter than me it's obviously sarcasm but okay

[Alison]

I'm probably going to ISO Rondo once I've taken my estrogen.

[Kami]

Kami should be happy Epi is vig target since apparently that's my teammate. (Or was that Transcend's sus?)

When did I imply I wasn't?

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Kami] aubergine

[Alison]

That had more to do with me being lazy and I will never ever go back and read like esooa would

Eh. You phrased the question like you weren't confident in your ability to read the spew, not that you were too lazy to do so.

Why do you want focus on NAA's interactions, when you have argued that NAA was probably an easy bus for mafia and nobody should be given credit for voting him?

If I'm calling someone smarter than me it's obviously sarcasm but okay

So was the "won't someone smarter than me" an indication that you want someone to do it for you because you're lazy, or a complete joke you never expected to follow through on?

[Kami]

That had more to do with me being lazy and I will never ever go back and read like esooa would

Eh. You phrased the question like you weren't confident in your ability to read the spew, not that you were too lazy to do so.

Why do you want focus on NAA's interactions, when you have argued that NAA was probably an easy bus for mafia and nobody should be given credit for voting him?

If I'm calling someone smarter than me it's obviously sarcasm but okay

Also how is interactions the same as voting someone asking to be modkilled lol

[Kami]

Alisonn I have zero interest in arguing or interacting with you and it has nothing to do with my role or yours so you can enjoy talking to a wall

[Kami]

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

[Kami]

Alisonn fake claim so all her mafia buddies switched off her to me, I'd say it's planned.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Alisonn fake claim so all her mafia buddies switched off her to me, I'd say it's planned.

Back on me now? Not interested in trying to say that Alison is fake claiming so you are trying to set up a counter lynch to excuse late minute swaps by people to tie up the vote? :think:

[Seanzie]

Alisonn fake claim so all her mafia buddies switched off her to me, I'd say it's planned.

Who were her mafia buddies on her?

[Kami]

Alisonn fake claim so all her mafia buddies switched off her to me, I'd say it's planned.

Back on me now? Not interested in trying to say that Alison is fake claiming so you are trying to set up a counter lynch to excuse late minute swaps by people to tie up the vote? :think:

The fact the entirety of Alisonns wagon went onto me and switched without a second thought means they didn't think she was actually mafia.

Anyways I'm obvious town and I know once actual townies come and vote you'll be boom bye wolf

[RondoDimBuckle]

Alisonn fake claim so all her mafia buddies switched off her to me, I'd say it's planned.

Who were her mafia buddies on her?

I was previously voting Alison but when a lot of people jumped on I voted myself which is when you came in

[RondoDimBuckle]

Read my ISO youll see I am town. Esooa has come to the same conclusion and has downgraded me from straight up scum to maybe not scum

[Kami]

Ender and rondo can both easily be w/w/w with Alisonn

[Kami]

Read my ISO youll see I am town. Esooa has come to the same conclusion and has downgraded me from straight up scum to maybe not scum

Why are you appealing to me when you've called me scum the entire game?

[Alison]

Alisonn fake claim so all her mafia buddies switched off her to me, I'd say it's planned.

Back on me now? Not interested in trying to say that Alison is fake claiming so you are trying to set up a counter lynch to excuse late minute swaps by people to tie up the vote? :think:

The fact the entirety of Alisonns wagon went onto me and switched without a second thought means they didn't think she was actually mafia.

Anyways I'm obvious town and I know once actual townies come and vote you'll be boom bye wolf

Or they saw my PR claim and figured if I was lying I'd just get shot by the real vigilante or exposed because I didn't shoot Epi?