Everyone's JOATED: Guillo's Roles (Town Wins)

[Scotty]

I change my mind I think Honey is a wolf

hope youre ready to cover your hands in blood then

Counterpoint: wolves have blood

my blood is innocent and anybody that comes for me will be drenched in it

oooh like Carrie. I like the spiciness

[MacDougall]

you're just flooding the thread with far too much fluff and bs

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Between this and Falcon for me right now and I like MacDougall a hell of a lot more than either Seanzie or Ender at this time.

you can be my new pet

[Lime Coke]

Oh well guess I'm gonna be the designated counterwagon to save wolf.

Dude I've literally seen you do more in a 40+ player game as town. I don't believe you do significantly less with less players as town.

[osieorb18]

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Between this and Falcon for me right now and I like MacDougall a hell of a lot more than either Seanzie or Ender at this time.

you can be my new pet

[honey]

you're just flooding the thread with far too much fluff and bs

mac said this is the syndicate and there is no fun or casuality allowed on the syndicate!!!

mac if ur maf just say that lol u dont have to be a grump about it

[Lime Coke]

you're just flooding the thread with far too much fluff and bs

Who is this?

[osieorb18]

you're just flooding the thread with far too much fluff and bs

mac said this is the syndicate and there is no fun or casuality allowed on the syndicate!!!

mac if ur maf just say that lol u dont have to be a grump about it

Uggh... my mind's telling me one thing and my heart's telling me another.

@honey Do you know roughly how many games you've played? Over how long a timespan?

[Lime Coke]

Like 80% of EM players are mass posters. Our games are an insane amount to read so saying we flood the thread is an understatement and is totally NAI.

[Michelle]

Can we not focus so much on meta from other games and play instead this game?

on d2 sure

weren't you the one who asked me for links to my past games..?

One is diving in meta to check something and other is to clog the thread with other games stories.

Can we not focus so much on meta from other games and play instead this game?

Counterpoint: meta from other games reflect onto this game, especially in a D1 where all we have to go on are vibes and metas

Making meta the main subject only helps wolves to blend in

[honey]

you're just flooding the thread with far too much fluff and bs

mac said this is the syndicate and there is no fun or casuality allowed on the syndicate!!!

mac if ur maf just say that lol u dont have to be a grump about it

Uggh... my mind's telling me one thing and my heart's telling me another.

@honey Do you know roughly how many games you've played? Over how long a timespan?

i thought you didnt wanna talk about meta? this is meta..

~1 a month

wanna share osie so im not the only one 'flooding' the thread?

[Creature]

Oh well guess I'm gonna be the designated counterwagon to save wolf.

Dude I've literally seen you do more in a 40+ player game as town. I don't believe you do significantly less with less players as town.

Depends how motivated I am. Kinda sad because I was kind of picking up motivation at that Avatar game and I liked the theme.

[Lime Coke]

Can we not focus so much on meta from other games and play instead this game?

on d2 sure

weren't you the one who asked me for links to my past games..?

One is diving in meta to check something and other is to clog the thread with other games stories.

Can we not focus so much on meta from other games and play instead this game?

Counterpoint: meta from other games reflect onto this game, especially in a D1 where all we have to go on are vibes and metas

Making meta the main subject only helps wolves to blend in

That's my bad. I trail off on different things when I'm mentioned. Sorry about that.

[osieorb18]

you're just flooding the thread with far too much fluff and bs

mac said this is the syndicate and there is no fun or casuality allowed on the syndicate!!!

mac if ur maf just say that lol u dont have to be a grump about it

Uggh... my mind's telling me one thing and my heart's telling me another.

@honey Do you know roughly how many games you've played? Over how long a timespan?

i thought you didnt wanna talk about meta? this is meta..

~1 a month

wanna share osie so im not the only one 'flooding' the thread?

*sigh*

I'm trying to get an idea of how much experience you have and you've sorta dodged the question twice.

I have a townlean on you that is made much stronger the less experience you have.

[honey]

Like 80% of EM players are mass posters. Our games are an insane amount to read so saying we flood the thread is an understatement and is totally NAI.

THIS IS META DO NOT READ IF YOU HATE META

Spoiler: show

actually fun fact ive never been top poster as wolf i just cant fake it it's my truth tell but im not always top poster as town if there are other high posters, but usually

[honey]

you're just flooding the thread with far too much fluff and bs

mac said this is the syndicate and there is no fun or casuality allowed on the syndicate!!!

mac if ur maf just say that lol u dont have to be a grump about it

Uggh... my mind's telling me one thing and my heart's telling me another.

@honey Do you know roughly how many games you've played? Over how long a timespan?

i thought you didnt wanna talk about meta? this is meta..

~1 a month

wanna share osie so im not the only one 'flooding' the thread?

*sigh*

I'm trying to get an idea of how much experience you have and you've sorta dodged the question twice.

I have a townlean on you that is made much stronger the less experience you have.

this is rude once again just because someone isnt super srs paranoid overload doesnt mean theyre mafia
excessive paranoia benefits the scum team which is what happened in my last town game so i said fuuuuck that for this game

[Lime Coke]

Like 80% of EM players are mass posters. Our games are an insane amount to read so saying we flood the thread is an understatement and is totally NAI.

THIS IS META DO NOT READ IF YOU HATE META

Spoiler: show

actually fun fact ive never been top poster as wolf i just cant fake it it's my truth tell but im not always top poster as town if there are other high posters, but usually

[Scotty]

you're just flooding the thread with far too much fluff and bs

I’m sorry I’m not living up to your business lifestyle.

D1 stands for fluff

the D is silent

[osieorb18]

you're just flooding the thread with far too much fluff and bs

mac said this is the syndicate and there is no fun or casuality allowed on the syndicate!!!

mac if ur maf just say that lol u dont have to be a grump about it

Uggh... my mind's telling me one thing and my heart's telling me another.

@honey Do you know roughly how many games you've played? Over how long a timespan?

i thought you didnt wanna talk about meta? this is meta..

~1 a month

wanna share osie so im not the only one 'flooding' the thread?

*sigh*

I'm trying to get an idea of how much experience you have and you've sorta dodged the question twice.

I have a townlean on you that is made much stronger the less experience you have.

this is rude once again just because someone isnt super srs paranoid overload doesnt mean theyre mafia
excessive paranoia benefits the scum team which is what happened in my last town game so i said fuuuuck that for this game

I apologize. My intent was not to be rude.

I have a very strong townread on you if you are a relatively new player.
If you are a relatively experienced player, I have a scumlean on you.
If you are somewhere in between, probably a townlean.

Overall, I want to say townlean, but I'm trying to figure out roughly how many games you've played and how many years you've played for so I have context for your playstyle. I don't care at all about the actual meta, the content of the games. I have no interest in looking at your old games. I won't get anything out of them; I never read old games to compare. I'm just looking at a number.

I use some odd specific things to form reads sometimes. I'm sorry if that's not what you're used to seeing.

[osieorb18]

@hollowkatt @Alison Are you still townreading falcon, and if so, why?

@Alison Also this question:

Isn't it a little hasty to only give the thread an hour before declaring that nobody has picked up on your read?

[Scotty]

@hollowkatt @Alison Are you still townreading falcon, and if so, why?

@Alison Also this question:

Isn't it a little hasty to only give the thread an hour before declaring that nobody has picked up on your read?

I currently townread you and would vote falcon if you do

I would not vote with you where you are currently voting however

[Scotty]

Flea, feel better buddy. I can give you a pass because you’re going through a lot.

Can’t say the same about lost monkey tho however.

LM, you are doing the bare minimum so far, and I invite you to *gestures around* do more!

[honey]

you think that since i'm not a newbie player i could be playing like this as scum? is there a compliment in there somewhere..

i read people off motivations personally and so when my scum pool is mans hollow alison adding mac now it's because i do not think their intentions for scumreading me are not pure once again none have outted a concise scumread on me

mac wants me to stop posting but then doesnt post or push on me himself when i threaten to bleed on him
alison only scum read me off a few posts and then even when she opens her scope she sees reasons to tr me but then manages to contrive some tone from somewhere
hollow calls me scum but wont actually push on me or fight me 1 on 1
mansnicks calls me a liar when i made a joke reaction test and then 20 hours later says im his top town tonally

like fr?? and that's on town entitlement~

[MacDougall]

you're just flooding the thread with far too much fluff and bs

Who is this?

Honey. I find the gamestate hard to deal with because of it.

[osieorb18]

you think that since i'm not a newbie player i could be playing like this as scum? is there a compliment in there somewhere..

i read people off motivations personally and so when my scum pool is mans hollow alison adding mac now it's because i do not think their intentions for scumreading me are not pure once again none have outted a concise scumread on me

mac wants me to stop posting but then doesnt post or push on me himself when i threaten to bleed on him
alison only scum read me off a few posts and then even when she opens her scope she sees reasons to tr me but then manages to contrive some tone from somewhere
hollow calls me scum but wont actually push on me or fight me 1 on 1
mansnicks calls me a liar when i made a joke reaction test and then 20 hours later says im his top town tonally

like fr?? and that's on town entitlement~

Interesting.

Very much the opposite of my reads.

[MacDougall]

you're just flooding the thread with far too much fluff and bs

I’m sorry I’m not living up to your business lifestyle.

D1 stands for fluff

the D is silent

Wasn't referring to you

[MacDougall]

you think that since i'm not a newbie player i could be playing like this as scum? is there a compliment in there somewhere..

i read people off motivations personally and so when my scum pool is mans hollow alison adding mac now it's because i do not think their intentions for scumreading me are not pure once again none have outted a concise scumread on me

mac wants me to stop posting but then doesnt post or push on me himself when i threaten to bleed on him
alison only scum read me off a few posts and then even when she opens her scope she sees reasons to tr me but then manages to contrive some tone from somewhere
hollow calls me scum but wont actually push on me or fight me 1 on 1
mansnicks calls me a liar when i made a joke reaction test and then 20 hours later says im his top town tonally

like fr?? and that's on town entitlement~

I don't want you to stop posting. I want you to slow down posting NAI spam because it makes it hard for me to read the game and work out who the wolves are.

[osieorb18]

mac wants me to stop posting but then doesnt post or push on me himself when i threaten to bleed on him

This might be a little bit of an overreaction? It seemed like he mostly just felt like your posts were fluffy, which is not necessarily a bad thing to point out. (Just saying, since I have townreads on every player you put in your scumreads and since I townlean you, I'm wondering if we can get on the same page somehow.) But I'll keep an eye there for later.

[honey]

you think that since i'm not a newbie player i could be playing like this as scum? is there a compliment in there somewhere..

i read people off motivations personally and so when my scum pool is mans hollow alison adding mac now it's because i do not think their intentions for scumreading me are not pure once again none have outted a concise scumread on me

mac wants me to stop posting but then doesnt post or push on me himself when i threaten to bleed on him
alison only scum read me off a few posts and then even when she opens her scope she sees reasons to tr me but then manages to contrive some tone from somewhere
hollow calls me scum but wont actually push on me or fight me 1 on 1
mansnicks calls me a liar when i made a joke reaction test and then 20 hours later says im his top town tonally

like fr?? and that's on town entitlement~

Interesting.

Very much the opposite of my reads.

well i asked why ppl tr alison and nobody replied and i have a suspicion ppl are just tring her because they like her posts as she gives some reads rather than what shes actually doing which is not much i dont think all of these are scum but 100% at least one scum in here because of the lack of logic
hollow wont fight me and ppl said hes in his town meta so im not focusing on reading his slot
mansnicks is afk and i prefer to interact in real time

[osieorb18]

you think that since i'm not a newbie player i could be playing like this as scum? is there a compliment in there somewhere..

i read people off motivations personally and so when my scum pool is mans hollow alison adding mac now it's because i do not think their intentions for scumreading me are not pure once again none have outted a concise scumread on me

mac wants me to stop posting but then doesnt post or push on me himself when i threaten to bleed on him
alison only scum read me off a few posts and then even when she opens her scope she sees reasons to tr me but then manages to contrive some tone from somewhere
hollow calls me scum but wont actually push on me or fight me 1 on 1
mansnicks calls me a liar when i made a joke reaction test and then 20 hours later says im his top town tonally

like fr?? and that's on town entitlement~

I don't want you to stop posting. I want you to slow down posting NAI spam because it makes it hard for me to read the game and work out who the wolves are.

I see I have been SarNath'd.

[MacDougall]

And I have no idea what your expected reaction to threatening to bleed on me is. I chose ignore.

[honey]

you're just flooding the thread with far too much fluff and bs

Who is this?

Honey. I find the gamestate hard to deal with because of it.

are you going to keep whining about it or are you going to steer the game in the direction you want cos i only see u doing one of these things
u act like im singularly holding this game hostage and i assure u im not lol

are u a newbie player too mac?

[MacDougall]

Is Flea is town a controversial read? Cuz I have that one.

[MacDougall]

you're just flooding the thread with far too much fluff and bs

Who is this?

Honey. I find the gamestate hard to deal with because of it.

are you going to keep whining about it or are you going to steer the game in the direction you want cos i only see u doing one of these things
u act like im singularly holding this game hostage and i assure u im not lol

are u a newbie player too mac?

Cool it with the histrionics. I made a reasonable request.

[MacDougall]

How to know Mac is town.

He only has 3 immunity votes.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

you're just flooding the thread with far too much fluff and bs

Who is this?

Honey. I find the gamestate hard to deal with because of it.

are you going to keep whining about it or are you going to steer the game in the direction you want cos i only see u doing one of these things
u act like im singularly holding this game hostage and i assure u im not lol

are u a newbie player too mac?

Mac is definitely a newbie player, and I'm sure he would be super appreciative if you took him under your wing and gave him guidance on how to best approach the game

[MacDougall]

1. @lost monkey ISO - lean wolf
2. @MacDougall ISO - strong wolf
3. @falcon45ca ISO - lean town
4. @hollowkatt ISO - lean town
5. @Lime Coke ISO - lean town
6. @Flea the Magician ISO - lean town
7. @ NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME ISO - lean town
8. @Alison ISO - strong town
9. @Michelle ISO - strong town
10. @EnderWiggin ISO - lean wolf
11. @TripleHaven ISO - lean town
12. @Dolby ISO - lean wolf
13. @Scotty ISO - lean wolf
14. @Garden Gnome ISO - lean wolf
15. @honey ISO - lean town
16. @Creature ISO - lean town
17. @Seanzie ISO - strong town
18. @listo95 ISO - lean town
19. @mansnicks ISO - lean town
20. @TonyStarkPrime ISO - lean town
21. @osieorb18 ISO - strong town

[osieorb18]

@Lime Coke - Roughly how much experience do you have playing as each alignment?

In forum mafia format, way more experience as town than I do as mafia.

My first like 15 games were all town in FM format.

I did hit a slight streak of flipping mafia in the past like...2 months? Including the one Honey has referenced a few times where I was mafia and she was town.
I've only won 1 time as mafia though, the rest were L's.

I've finally hit a town streak now though.

Hmm. Oh yeah, I actually have a bit of an idea on you looking back through your ISO. This is still not as useful of an answer, but at least 15 games and at least such-and-such number of months tells me something.

I like your energy but I do get why people are scumreading you despite that.

[honey]

nah @ mac its not reasonable bc u want me to stop posting and say im only posting fluff and bs when that was like 3 of my posts today having a moment w someone i know talking about our games and how we've played as mafia vs town before this is all relevant even if you dont think so

would mac waffle and struggle to read the thread just because of me if he was town? this is not high posting, this is not spamming lol i had 145 posts in my last game on d1 and i was in the middle tier of posters but nice excuse

[MacDougall]

I have a feeling my reads are bad in this game.

[MacDougall]

nah @ mac its not reasonable bc u want me to stop posting and say im only posting fluff and bs when that was like 3 of my posts today having a moment w someone i know talking about our games and how we've played as mafia vs town before this is all relevant even if you dont think so

would mac waffle and struggle to read the thread just because of me if he was town? this is not high posting, this is not spamming lol i had 145 posts in my last game on d1 and i was in the middle tier of posters but nice excuse

You're killing me. I wanted you to stop distracting me not make it worse by tunneling me.

[honey]

you're just flooding the thread with far too much fluff and bs

Who is this?

Honey. I find the gamestate hard to deal with because of it.

are you going to keep whining about it or are you going to steer the game in the direction you want cos i only see u doing one of these things
u act like im singularly holding this game hostage and i assure u im not lol

are u a newbie player too mac?

Mac is definitely a newbie player, and I'm sure he would be super appreciative if you took him under your wing and gave him guidance on how to best approach the game

i dont think he can handle me :' (

i'm leaving but not for mac but bc i m trying to conserve posts, ill check in l8r

[MacDougall]

change my mind lomo is town

[osieorb18]

1. @lost monkey ISO - lean wolf
3. @falcon45ca ISO - lean town
4. @hollowkatt ISO - lean town
5. @Lime Coke ISO - lean town
6. @Flea the Magician ISO - lean town
7. @ NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME ISO - lean town
8. @Alison ISO - strong town
9. @Michelle ISO - strong town
10. @EnderWiggin ISO - lean wolf
11. @TripleHaven ISO - lean town
12. @Dolby ISO - lean wolf
13. @Scotty ISO - lean wolf
14. @Garden Gnome ISO - lean wolf
15. @honey ISO - lean town
16. @Creature ISO - lean town
17. @Seanzie ISO - strong town
18. @listo95 ISO - lean town
19. @mansnicks ISO - lean town
20. @TonyStarkPrime ISO - lean town
21. @osieorb18 ISO - strong town

Why the townlean on Falcon? I don't think I disagree with most of your other reads (at least out of the ones I quoted); I'm still getting there on a few of them, but they're within margin of error (read to null or lean to lean) on pretty much all of them other than falcon.

[MacDougall]

nanook doesn't deserve a town read either so drop him to null

[osieorb18]

@MacDougall Oh yeah, also not sure about why the strong town on Seanzie.

[MacDougall]

1. @lost monkey ISO - lean wolf
3. @falcon45ca ISO - lean town
4. @hollowkatt ISO - lean town
5. @Lime Coke ISO - lean town
6. @Flea the Magician ISO - lean town
7. @ NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME ISO - lean town
8. @Alison ISO - strong town
9. @Michelle ISO - strong town
10. @EnderWiggin ISO - lean wolf
11. @TripleHaven ISO - lean town
12. @Dolby ISO - lean wolf
13. @Scotty ISO - lean wolf
14. @Garden Gnome ISO - lean wolf
15. @honey ISO - lean town
16. @Creature ISO - lean town
17. @Seanzie ISO - strong town
18. @listo95 ISO - lean town
19. @mansnicks ISO - lean town
20. @TonyStarkPrime ISO - lean town
21. @osieorb18 ISO - strong town

Why the townlean on Falcon? I don't think I disagree with most of your other reads (at least out of the ones I quoted); I'm still getting there on a few of them, but they're within margin of error (read to null or lean to lean) on pretty much all of them other than falcon.

I am not sure.

[MacDougall]

@MacDougall Oh yeah, also not sure about why the strong town on Seanzie.

Seanzie is polarised and easy to read. Maybe the easiest player to read on the forum these days.

[osieorb18]

you think that since i'm not a newbie player i could be playing like this as scum? is there a compliment in there somewhere..

i read people off motivations personally and so when my scum pool is mans hollow alison adding mac now it's because i do not think their intentions for scumreading me are not pure once again none have outted a concise scumread on me

mac wants me to stop posting but then doesnt post or push on me himself when i threaten to bleed on him
alison only scum read me off a few posts and then even when she opens her scope she sees reasons to tr me but then manages to contrive some tone from somewhere
hollow calls me scum but wont actually push on me or fight me 1 on 1
mansnicks calls me a liar when i made a joke reaction test and then 20 hours later says im his top town tonally

like fr?? and that's on town entitlement~

Interesting.

Very much the opposite of my reads.

well i asked why ppl tr alison and nobody replied and i have a suspicion ppl are just tring her because they like her posts as she gives some reads rather than what shes actually doing which is not much i dont think all of these are scum but 100% at least one scum in here because of the lack of logic
hollow wont fight me and ppl said hes in his town meta so im not focusing on reading his slot
mansnicks is afk and i prefer to interact in real time

I suppose being from EpicMafia, RTI is more your normal.

I'm still intending to take another look at Alison, but I felt like she was very engaged in a way that seemed less likely if she was scum.

I like the way that you're engaging with me too, btw.

[osieorb18]

@MacDougall Oh yeah, also not sure about why the strong town on Seanzie.

Seanzie is polarised and easy to read. Maybe the easiest player to read on the forum these days.

Gotcha.