AtLA post-game (mafia win)

[Grogu]

Town:
IBA
Naviya
NotanAxeHole
TonyStarkPrime
Guillotine

Lean Town:
Hollowkatt
DaughterofOmega
Seanzie
Falcon

Null:
lost monkey
Felicis
Long con
Creature

Scum:
Vulgard/Butter
Grogu
JackofHearts2005
Dana

I swear the 4-reads-per-tier isn't intentional.

this is where I'm at roughly, probably wrong on at least one of my scum-reads but I doubt 2 or more.

You think I am scum? Weird

Exhibit A:

Let's kill Luckbox ynot

I’m down

weren't you clearing me earlier or was it just me clearing you?

I am not sure, I don’t believe I did. And if I did I just do not like your recent post and reaction. I prefer sig die first, wouldn’t mind if you did too inc.

And more reasons.

Oh I was wrong and open about my reads. Sue me.
I’m just a baby, my powers are not developed yet. I am training with a Jedi master to be able to harness the power.

[Dana]

anyway I am home now and im gonna unpack and then catch up to try and leave a legacy for y'all. ill be around though if anyone has any specific questions

[NotAnAxehole]

anyway I am home now and im gonna unpack and then catch up to try and leave a legacy for y'all. ill be around though if anyone has any specific questions

All I see is red

[MartinGG99]

Grogu is saying some good stuff

gets my seal of approval

I'm mildly concerned he could have pocketed you or others but okay.

I haven't discovered a good way to read Grogu and last time I tried that it back in Fallout 2 didn't work well for me (as it had back-fired), so I'm going to maintain my suspicion for awhile.

[Dana]

anyway I am home now and im gonna unpack and then catch up to try and leave a legacy for y'all. ill be around though if anyone has any specific questions

All I see is red

:madmad:

[NotAnAxehole]

anyway I am home now and im gonna unpack and then catch up to try and leave a legacy for y'all. ill be around though if anyone has any specific questions

All I see is red

:madmad:

Blame the mod

[Dana]

anyway I am home now and im gonna unpack and then catch up to try and leave a legacy for y'all. ill be around though if anyone has any specific questions

All I see is red

:madmad:

Blame the mod

this isn't nanook's fault

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

[I missed removing luckbox's name from the poll--any votes for him will count as a no vote.]

[IBA]

anyway I am home now and im gonna unpack and then catch up to try and leave a legacy for y'all. ill be around though if anyone has any specific questions

All I see is red

:madmad:

Blame the mod

this isn't nanook's fault

How do you know that?

[IBA]

Wait, sorry I forgot to check, nobody here takes champs seriously right? I did not intent to risk hurting any feelings.

I mean define "seriously." I don't think Mafia is the kind of game you can actually be "the best" at or w/e, and the actual format of Champs is more of a popularity contest. But I mean I take it seriously to the extent that I think a lot of people involved are trying to be serious and earnest in treating mafia as a strategy game, and I don't want to simply dismiss that. Even if it's mostly a pretty silly conceit.

[Grogu]

Grogu is saying some good stuff

gets my seal of approval

I'm mildly concerned he could have pocketed you or others but okay.

I haven't discovered a good way to read Grogu and last time I tried that it back in Fallout 2 didn't work well for me (as it had back-fired), so I'm going to maintain my suspicion for awhile.

How did it backfire? Was I scum?

[Grogu]

Are you all talking about the military slang for POG or something else?

[MartinGG99]

Grogu is saying some good stuff

gets my seal of approval

I'm mildly concerned he could have pocketed you or others but okay.

I haven't discovered a good way to read Grogu and last time I tried that it back in Fallout 2 didn't work well for me (as it had back-fired), so I'm going to maintain my suspicion for awhile.

How did it backfire? Was I scum?

You were. Heck moments ago you acted annoyed and self-referenced yourself as a baby you've done that similarly in that game (where you were scum) too:

(spoilering to make clear it isn't this game)

Spoiler: show

Has falcon claimed anything? I have reasons to believe he is a baddie

Do tell.




Lemme guess, your scum chat has told you I've been calling you out for days now, and you'd better make a soft claim re: his role?



I'm all ears dude. This'll be good

No. More like I was annoyed why you were pushing me since I am town and claimed as such. Then I targeted you and there’s something you not telling us. So I now know you are scum based on this. Therefore I want to kill you now, you picked on the baby but I have powers and I will end you. Kindly

So your response to one of my reasons basically did nothing and was NAI to me as it was nearly the same (aside from some context) as you did once in a past scum game.

[NotAnAxehole]

anyway I am home now and im gonna unpack and then catch up to try and leave a legacy for y'all. ill be around though if anyone has any specific questions

All I see is red

:madmad:

Blame the mod

this isn't nanook's fault

Are you done lolcating?

[Dana]

anyway I am home now and im gonna unpack and then catch up to try and leave a legacy for y'all. ill be around though if anyone has any specific questions

All I see is red

:madmad:

Blame the mod

this isn't nanook's fault

Are you done lolcating?

nah

[Dana]

I love cats, especially when they're funny

[NotAnAxehole]

anyway I am home now and im gonna unpack and then catch up to try and leave a legacy for y'all. ill be around though if anyone has any specific questions

All I see is red

:madmad:

Blame the mod

this isn't nanook's fault

Are you done lolcating?

nah

Ok fam, I'm proposing an ultimatum, either we kill Dana in the next 15 hours, or I out Aang.

[NotAnAxehole]

anyway I am home now and im gonna unpack and then catch up to try and leave a legacy for y'all. ill be around though if anyone has any specific questions

All I see is red

:madmad:

Blame the mod

this isn't nanook's fault

Are you done lolcating?

nah

Ok fam, I'm proposing an ultimatum, either we kill Dana in the next 15 hours, or I out Aang.

[Grogu]

Grogu is saying some good stuff

gets my seal of approval

I'm mildly concerned he could have pocketed you or others but okay.

I haven't discovered a good way to read Grogu and last time I tried that it back in Fallout 2 didn't work well for me (as it had back-fired), so I'm going to maintain my suspicion for awhile.

How did it backfire? Was I scum?

You were. Heck moments ago you acted annoyed and self-referenced yourself as a baby you've done that similarly in that game (where you were scum) too:

(spoilering to make clear it isn't this game)

Spoiler: show

Has falcon claimed anything? I have reasons to believe he is a baddie

Do tell.




Lemme guess, your scum chat has told you I've been calling you out for days now, and you'd better make a soft claim re: his role?



I'm all ears dude. This'll be good

No. More like I was annoyed why you were pushing me since I am town and claimed as such. Then I targeted you and there’s something you not telling us. So I now know you are scum based on this. Therefore I want to kill you now, you picked on the baby but I have powers and I will end you. Kindly

So your response to one of my reasons basically did nothing and was NAI to me as it was nearly the same (aside from some context) as you did once in a past scum game.

Well, in that game the scum team had info falcon could not claim.
We decided to exploit this and put falcon in a tough spot so he either claimed and we get him killed or he doesn’t and would look suspect. This was a play.
Me saying I’m a baby is not because I am scum or town.
It is because I am a baby in fact. 50 year old baby

[Dana]

All I see is red

:madmad:

Blame the mod

this isn't nanook's fault

Are you done lolcating?

nah

Ok fam, I'm proposing an ultimatum, either we kill Dana in the next 15 hours, or I out Aang.

and how does outing aang help town?

[Grogu]

All I see is red

:madmad:

Blame the mod

this isn't nanook's fault

Are you done lolcating?

nah

Ok fam, I'm proposing an ultimatum, either we kill Dana in the next 15 hours, or I out Aang.

[NotAnAxehole]

:madmad:

Blame the mod

this isn't nanook's fault

Are you done lolcating?

nah

Ok fam, I'm proposing an ultimatum, either we kill Dana in the next 15 hours, or I out Aang.

and how does outing aang help town?

If it helped town, it wouldn't be an ultimatum, now would it?

[Dana]

Blame the mod

this isn't nanook's fault

Are you done lolcating?

nah

Ok fam, I'm proposing an ultimatum, either we kill Dana in the next 15 hours, or I out Aang.

and how does outing aang help town?

If it helped town, it wouldn't be an ultimatum, now would it?

you got me there I guess

[Dana]

so I guess my question should have been why does having an ultimatum at all help town?

[MartinGG99]

I don't recall Aang's alignment being guaranteed town so idrc about that role unless they are someone who I'm suspicious of.

[NotAnAxehole]

so I guess my question should have been why does having an ultimatum at all help town?

Listen, you've had enough time to lolcat, either spew your partners, or we should be done with you.

[NotAnAxehole]

I don't recall Aang's alignment being guaranteed town so idrc about that role unless they are someone who I'm suspicious of.

It isn't guaranteed, but the role is quite nice, so presumably if they are town, mafia will kill them.

[Dana]

so I guess my question should have been why does having an ultimatum at all help town?

Listen, you've had enough time to lolcat, either spew your partners, or we should be done with you.

I just got home like an hour ago and haven't read half the thread

[NotAnAxehole]

so I guess my question should have been why does having an ultimatum at all help town?

Listen, you've had enough time to lolcat, either spew your partners, or we should be done with you.

I just got home like an hour ago and haven't read half the thread

Ask your scum buddies to summarise.

[Dana]

I don't recall Aang's alignment being guaranteed town so idrc about that role unless they are someone who I'm suspicious of.

I mean I think the problem is that there's a soup kill floating around so if they are town then its a free extra civ kill for mafia just by tying the role to the person

[Dana]

so I guess my question should have been why does having an ultimatum at all help town?

Listen, you've had enough time to lolcat, either spew your partners, or we should be done with you.

I just got home like an hour ago and haven't read half the thread

Ask your scum buddies to summarise.

I wish I could

[NotAnAxehole]

so I guess my question should have been why does having an ultimatum at all help town?

Listen, you've had enough time to lolcat, either spew your partners, or we should be done with you.

I just got home like an hour ago and haven't read half the thread

Ask your scum buddies to summarise.

I wish I could

I'm glad that you've at least come to your senses and realized that fighting me is futile. You must have read some to come to that conclusion...

[Dana]

so I guess my question should have been why does having an ultimatum at all help town?

Listen, you've had enough time to lolcat, either spew your partners, or we should be done with you.

I just got home like an hour ago and haven't read half the thread

Ask your scum buddies to summarise.

I wish I could

I'm glad that you've at least come to your senses and realized that fighting me is futile. You must have read some to come to that conclusion...

well it doesn't seem like you're gonna give up your fake red check or hunt for another explanation, and im also kind of interested in what death is like. so I'm not gonna fight you but I am still gonna play catch up and leave some reads for everyone else. eventually.

[Creature]

here's the thing, I rly want to omgus axe for this fake red check but it doesn't make sense to fake red check me as wolf bc then they will just get yeeted tomorrow. so either they are fake red checking me as town bc they just really deeply believe I'm mafia or something got mixed up mechanically overnight. but if it was the mafia that did a redirect or something similar then they probably will not offer up that info bc they want me to get yeeted today

Again, if you're town, give us a legacy because you always go down today.

[Dana]

here's the thing, I rly want to omgus axe for this fake red check but it doesn't make sense to fake red check me as wolf bc then they will just get yeeted tomorrow. so either they are fake red checking me as town bc they just really deeply believe I'm mafia or something got mixed up mechanically overnight. but if it was the mafia that did a redirect or something similar then they probably will not offer up that info bc they want me to get yeeted today

Again, if you're town, give us a legacy because you always go down today.

yeah im working on it

[Seanzie]

All I see is red

:madmad:

Blame the mod

this isn't nanook's fault

Are you done lolcating?

nah

Ok fam, I'm proposing an ultimatum, either we kill Dana in the next 15 hours, or I out Aang.

This is garbage. Like, you're probably town, and thanks for the redcheck, you've earned a wolfpelt and all, but this is garbage play. Sorry, not sorry. You don't control the game, and demanding that people hammer when you want them to or you'll do something against your wincon is immature.

You've had a severely negative impact on threadhealth today, essentially destroyed any chance at fruitful discussion and scumhunting today. Even with the redcheck your presence still might be -EV for town.

[Grogu]

I love cats, especially when they're funny

[Seanzie]

Fuck it, day's a wash at this point anyways.

[VOTE: Dana] aubergine

[Guillotine]

Aang

[NotAnAxehole]

Fuck it, day's a wash at this point anyways.

[VOTE: Dana] aubergine

I've been told that my playstyle is somewhat abrasive. Sorry if true, I just can't really see it myself.

[NotAnAxehole]

Bye Dana

[NotAnAxehole]

Bye Dana

[Creature]

Was it a hammer?

[falcon45ca]

All I see is red

:madmad:

Blame the mod

this isn't nanook's fault

Are you done lolcating?

nah

Ok fam, I'm proposing an ultimatum, either we kill Dana in the next 15 hours, or I out Aang.

Why is outing Ang a good thing in your mind?

[Guillotine]

Eod is July 3, 1pm edt. Hammer is at 12.

[Seanzie]

Was it a hammer?

No, I'm just not going to actively oppose the hammer anymore.

[Guillotine]

[NotAnAxehole]

:madmad:

Blame the mod

this isn't nanook's fault

Are you done lolcating?

nah

Ok fam, I'm proposing an ultimatum, either we kill Dana in the next 15 hours, or I out Aang.

Why is outing Ang a good thing in your mind?

The objective is not getting to that point.

[Dana]

okay I still haven't rly read much or caught up but here's a rly bad list based on some d1 vibes

Spoiler: show

townlean:
IBA
Sean
Creature
Martin
Felicis

slight townlean:
Falcon
HK
DoO
Guillo
Grogu

null:
LC
Lomo
Naviya

slight scumlean:
Axe???
Tsp??
Jack
Vulgard

if I'm still alive in the irl morning I will reassess and read some ISOs and try to go more in depth with some real reads. if not, gl town
[VOTE: dana] aubergine

[Dana]

also im not trying to be defeatist or trying to use AtE or anything I am just hoping I can be more help from beyond the grave