AtLA post-game (mafia win)

[MacDougall]

LoMo wagon is such a low-effort wagon I hate it.

There was definitely scum in the event otherwise i dont get the move to sean. They must have known about my time zone or has a teammate who knows.

im confused what

[EnderWiggin]

Luckbox/Sig is acceptable as end wagons tbh.

Because I read kza too well?

Yeah. I can't believe how I scumread you after you read kza and had you as null or town before /s

[lost monkey]

LoMo wagon is such a low-effort wagon I hate it.

There was definitely scum in the event otherwise i dont get the move to sean. They must have known about my time zone or has a teammate who knows.

im confused what

What are you confused about?

[Luckbox Inc]

Luckbox/Sig is acceptable as end wagons tbh.

Because I read kza too well?

Yeah. I can't believe how I scumread you after you read kza and had you as null or town before /s

I'll allow you to make me a wagon and kill me tomorrow and I won't fight it too hard

[EnderWiggin]

Luckbox/Sig is acceptable as end wagons tbh.

Because I read kza too well?

Yeah. I can't believe how I scumread you after you read kza and had you as null or town before /s

I'll allow you to make me a wagon and kill me tomorrow and I won't fight it too hard

Why tomorrow specifically? Got a oneshot power you want to get off tonight?

[MacDougall]

LoMo wagon is such a low-effort wagon I hate it.

There was definitely scum in the event otherwise i dont get the move to sean. They must have known about my time zone or has a teammate who knows.

im confused what

What are you confused about?

2+2=5

[Luckbox Inc]

Why tomorrow specifically? Got a oneshot power you want to get off tonight?

I mean today on this game day.
This game isn't really going to work out well for me because I don't know anyone here and don't feel like explaining that all my reads are based on tone and general impressions of people.

[lost monkey]

LoMo wagon is such a low-effort wagon I hate it.

There was definitely scum in the event otherwise i dont get the move to sean. They must have known about my time zone or has a teammate who knows.

im confused what

What are you confused about?

2+2=5

I am already frustrated, don't make more frustrated.

[Guillotine]

► Show Spoiler

[VOTE: LUCKBOX] aubergine

[EnderWiggin]

LoMo wagon is such a low-effort wagon I hate it.

There was definitely scum in the event otherwise i dont get the move to sean. They must have known about my time zone or has a teammate who knows.

im confused what

What are you confused about?

2+2=5

Here's my current understanding of how event went:
People throw around names, falcon is either said a lot or originally decided upon
LoMo vanishes to bed, leaving vote on Falcon
Justin nominates himself and throws the votes into disarray
Falcon is like "No bitch" and after debate they swap to Seanzie
LoMo is softly snoring in bed

Is there scum in this group? Probably.

Does it mean LoMo is scum? Probably not.

[lost monkey]

the thing I don't understand is

why even be in the event if you're not going to be there (seemingly) much

[VOTE: LoMo] aubergine

When i was there wasn't falcon gonna be copped, how did it change to justin and then sean?

I joined it for the fun of it, i have work to go to the next day, plus i am sick. so took my medication and went to sleep. I wanna know who changed it to justin and the sean.

[IBA]

Luckbox/Sig is acceptable as end wagons tbh.

Because I read kza too well?

unironically yes that's what a knowledge tell is

[IBA]

Luckbox/Sig is acceptable as end wagons tbh.

Because I read kza too well?

Yeah. I can't believe how I scumread you after you read kza and had you as null or town before /s

I'll allow you to make me a wagon and kill me tomorrow and I won't fight it too hard

lmao what

[lost monkey]

I don’t see the point in them outing themselves to avoid cop checking someone seems like a dumb mafia play?

This.

[Luckbox Inc]

Luckbox/Sig is acceptable as end wagons tbh.

Because I read kza too well?

unironically yes that's what a knowledge tell is

lol.
You're a wolf right?

[MacDougall]

LoMo wagon is such a low-effort wagon I hate it.

There was definitely scum in the event otherwise i dont get the move to sean. They must have known about my time zone or has a teammate who knows.

im confused what

What are you confused about?

2+2=5

I am already frustrated, don't make more frustrated.

Sorry I was phone posting in one hand while yelling at my kids.

I don't particularly vibe your post here. Like generally it feels bullshitty but then the part where you were like "I don't get the move to sean" as justification for why you think there was scum in the event appears to be spewing sean town and falcon mafia? or some combination of the two. It's just on the nose end to end.

[IBA]

Luckbox/Sig is acceptable as end wagons tbh.

Because I read kza too well?

unironically yes that's what a knowledge tell is

lol.
You're a wolf right?

Pretty wolf response tbh

Also noob town but it's d1, I'll take that coinflip

[MacDougall]

@hollowkatt things and stuff

[DaughterOfOmega]

Hmm, either Luckbox is mafia, or there are mafia sitting in the 3 man group I saw pushing them.

Ponder.

[Luckbox Inc]

Luckbox/Sig is acceptable as end wagons tbh.

Because I read kza too well?

unironically yes that's what a knowledge tell is

lol.
You're a wolf right?

Pretty wolf response tbh

Also noob town but it's d1, I'll take that coinflip

claiming that I'm a wolf for thinking kza was super villagery is just lol.
I've been clearing kza the whole game.

[MacDougall]

Currently the wagons are;

LB 4
Lomo 4
Sig 3

[Luckbox Inc]

Hmm, either Luckbox is mafia, or there are mafia sitting in the 3 man group I saw pushing them.

Ponder.

I've ceased caring and I'm set to get myself killed fwiw

[MacDougall]

Luckbox/Sig is acceptable as end wagons tbh.

Because I read kza too well?

unironically yes that's what a knowledge tell is

lol.
You're a wolf right?

Pretty wolf response tbh

Also noob town but it's d1, I'll take that coinflip

claiming that I'm a wolf for thinking kza was super villagery is just lol.
I've been clearing kza the whole game.

can you articulate what it was about kza that made you townread them so vociferously?

[EnderWiggin]

Luckbox/Sig is acceptable as end wagons tbh.

Because I read kza too well?

unironically yes that's what a knowledge tell is

lol.
You're a wolf right?

Pretty wolf response tbh

Also noob town but it's d1, I'll take that coinflip

claiming that I'm a wolf for thinking kza was super villagery is just lol.
I've been clearing kza the whole game.

can you articulate what it was about kza that made you townread them so vociferously?

Long words, my weakness

[MacDougall]

I think Dana might have been the one that took the shot on kza

[MacDougall]

Because I read kza too well?

unironically yes that's what a knowledge tell is

lol.
You're a wolf right?

Pretty wolf response tbh

Also noob town but it's d1, I'll take that coinflip

claiming that I'm a wolf for thinking kza was super villagery is just lol.
I've been clearing kza the whole game.

can you articulate what it was about kza that made you townread them so vociferously?

Long words, my weakness

yes sometimes i use words like a conceited 11th grade intellectual type

[Luckbox Inc]

can you articulate what it was about kza that made you townread them so vociferously?

Pure Kza tone that I first recognized in my first game with kza, when nanook tried to fake peek her.
But it doesn't matter.

[lost monkey]

LoMo wagon is such a low-effort wagon I hate it.

There was definitely scum in the event otherwise i dont get the move to sean. They must have known about my time zone or has a teammate who knows.

im confused what

What are you confused about?

2+2=5

I am already frustrated, don't make more frustrated.

Sorry I was phone posting in one hand while yelling at my kids.

I don't particularly vibe your post here. Like generally it feels bullshitty but then the part where you were like "I don't get the move to sean" as justification for why you think there was scum in the event appears to be spewing sean town and falcon mafia? or some combination of the two. It's just on the nose end to end.

I only know i got fucked for this. Someone must have done something otherwise i dont get the shift.

[MacDougall]

can you articulate what it was about kza that made you townread them so vociferously?

Pure Kza tone that I first recognized in my first game with kza, when nanook tried to fake peek her.
But it doesn't matter.

Why doesn't it matter? it matters to me right now so it matters. Don't be all defeatist or you'll just get turboed. You owe it to your teammates of whatever persuasion.

[EnderWiggin]

Hmm, either Luckbox is mafia, or there are mafia sitting in the 3 man group I saw pushing them.

Ponder.

I've ceased caring and I'm set to get myself killed fwiw

Defeatist attitudes make me want to lynch harder.

This is why I tried to turbolynch Creature in my first game with them.

[MacDougall]

Hmm, either Luckbox is mafia, or there are mafia sitting in the 3 man group I saw pushing them.

Ponder.

I've ceased caring and I'm set to get myself killed fwiw

Defeatist attitudes make me want to lynch harder.

This is why I tried to turbolynch Creature in my first game with them.

that's town meta for Creature though

I actually tend to think it's usually >rand town even though the prevailing wisdom seems to indicate otherwise. In my experience wolves tend to prefer different forms of ATE. Usually incredulity or apathy.

[Luckbox Inc]

can you articulate what it was about kza that made you townread them so vociferously?

Pure Kza tone that I first recognized in my first game with kza, when nanook tried to fake peek her.
But it doesn't matter.

Why doesn't it matter? it matters to me right now so it matters. Don't be all defeatist or you'll just get turboed. You owe it to your teammates of whatever persuasion.

I don't have the ability to explain reads on anybody but Butters, and barely even her. If you all want to believe that kza isn't a person I could be confident on then kill me.

[lost monkey]

You know very well i like to buss if me and sean were both scum together. I would have voted sean if i was there btw.

[IBA]

Literally everything Luckbox says hinges on a pre-determined state of incuriosity about the game

[lost monkey]

no need to unless this is going to turn a w/w bus over the issue of not voting

could've easily not done the puzzle and noone would wiser other than "there's at least 1 scum in the group of 6 players or so"

I did the puzzle lol.

[EnderWiggin]

can you articulate what it was about kza that made you townread them so vociferously?

Pure Kza tone that I first recognized in my first game with kza, when nanook tried to fake peek her.
But it doesn't matter.

Why doesn't it matter? it matters to me right now so it matters. Don't be all defeatist or you'll just get turboed. You owe it to your teammates of whatever persuasion.

I don't have the ability to explain reads on anybody but Butters, and barely even her. If you all want to believe that kza isn't a person I could be confident on then kill me.

I also had KZA firmly in my silent town.

It was more the reaction that felt weird.

Not that I needed much reason to flip you.

[IBA]

can you articulate what it was about kza that made you townread them so vociferously?

Pure Kza tone that I first recognized in my first game with kza, when nanook tried to fake peek her.
But it doesn't matter.

Why doesn't it matter? it matters to me right now so it matters. Don't be all defeatist or you'll just get turboed. You owe it to your teammates of whatever persuasion.

I don't have the ability to explain reads on anybody but Butters, and barely even her. If you all want to believe that kza isn't a person I could be confident on then kill me.

yeah that was the plan

[Luckbox Inc]

Literally everything Luckbox says hinges on a pre-determined state of incuriosity about the game

What?

[Luckbox Inc]

can you articulate what it was about kza that made you townread them so vociferously?

Pure Kza tone that I first recognized in my first game with kza, when nanook tried to fake peek her.
But it doesn't matter.

Why doesn't it matter? it matters to me right now so it matters. Don't be all defeatist or you'll just get turboed. You owe it to your teammates of whatever persuasion.

I don't have the ability to explain reads on anybody but Butters, and barely even her. If you all want to believe that kza isn't a person I could be confident on then kill me.

I also had KZA firmly in my silent town.

It was more the reaction that felt weird.

Not that I needed much reason to flip you.

Why are you so smug so when you actually haven't done anything this game and your reads seem all over the place?
Why shouldn't I be flipping you?

[IBA]

Literally everything Luckbox says hinges on a pre-determined state of incuriosity about the game

What?

"Well kza was obviously town but the reasons were obvious, I don't have to explain, anyway it's pointless I'll obviously be lynched"

You do not seem to be at all driven by curiosity like

Almost like you just know the state of the game and everyone's alignments already or something

[IBA]

can you articulate what it was about kza that made you townread them so vociferously?

Pure Kza tone that I first recognized in my first game with kza, when nanook tried to fake peek her.
But it doesn't matter.

Why doesn't it matter? it matters to me right now so it matters. Don't be all defeatist or you'll just get turboed. You owe it to your teammates of whatever persuasion.

I don't have the ability to explain reads on anybody but Butters, and barely even her. If you all want to believe that kza isn't a person I could be confident on then kill me.

I also had KZA firmly in my silent town.

It was more the reaction that felt weird.

Not that I needed much reason to flip you.

Why are you so smug so when you actually haven't done anything this game and your reads seem all over the place?
Why shouldn't I be flipping you?

If you are town and think Ender might be scum you should absolutely be trying to flip them because that's the game

[Luckbox Inc]

Literally everything Luckbox says hinges on a pre-determined state of incuriosity about the game

What?

"Well kza was obviously town but the reasons were obvious, I don't have to explain, anyway it's pointless I'll obviously be lynched"

You do not seem to be at all driven by curiosity like

Almost like you just know the state of the game and everyone's alignments already or something

Yeah you're a wolf for just making stuff up

[EnderWiggin]

Hmm, either Luckbox is mafia, or there are mafia sitting in the 3 man group I saw pushing them.

Ponder.

I've ceased caring and I'm set to get myself killed fwiw

Defeatist attitudes make me want to lynch harder.

This is why I tried to turbolynch Creature in my first game with them.

that's town meta for Creature though

I actually tend to think it's usually >rand town even though the prevailing wisdom seems to indicate otherwise. In my experience wolves tend to prefer different forms of ATE. Usually incredulity or apathy.

I know it's town-meta now.

Didn't back then.

[MacDougall]

There was definitely scum in the event otherwise i dont get the move to sean. They must have known about my time zone or has a teammate who knows.

im confused what

What are you confused about?

2+2=5

I am already frustrated, don't make more frustrated.

Sorry I was phone posting in one hand while yelling at my kids.

I don't particularly vibe your post here. Like generally it feels bullshitty but then the part where you were like "I don't get the move to sean" as justification for why you think there was scum in the event appears to be spewing sean town and falcon mafia? or some combination of the two. It's just on the nose end to end.

I only know i got fucked for this. Someone must have done something otherwise i dont get the shift.

So you are saying that you think that someone made a scummy move, with the agenda of preventing the cop check, by influencing the storm chat to move votes en masse onto Seanzie and off of Falcon. Whomst you believe was the consensus decision at the point you left?

For what you claim to be true, they would have had to know that you were unlikely to return and vote Seanzie. Which means if scum pushed the change of direction then it would make Seanzie town cleared. For them to feel the need to make the move, Falcon has to be mafia.

Justin has been mod killed. According to Martin he initially wanted the solve onto him. What does his solve do for your worldview?

I hope this isn't some fruitless exercise where it's just 6 townies all breathing in each other's farts.

[EnderWiggin]

can you articulate what it was about kza that made you townread them so vociferously?

Pure Kza tone that I first recognized in my first game with kza, when nanook tried to fake peek her.
But it doesn't matter.

Why doesn't it matter? it matters to me right now so it matters. Don't be all defeatist or you'll just get turboed. You owe it to your teammates of whatever persuasion.

I don't have the ability to explain reads on anybody but Butters, and barely even her. If you all want to believe that kza isn't a person I could be confident on then kill me.

I also had KZA firmly in my silent town.

It was more the reaction that felt weird.

Not that I needed much reason to flip you.

Why are you so smug so when you actually haven't done anything this game and your reads seem all over the place?
Why shouldn't I be flipping you?

Wait, I come across as smug?

That's not the intention.

[MacDougall]

can you articulate what it was about kza that made you townread them so vociferously?

Pure Kza tone that I first recognized in my first game with kza, when nanook tried to fake peek her.
But it doesn't matter.

Why doesn't it matter? it matters to me right now so it matters. Don't be all defeatist or you'll just get turboed. You owe it to your teammates of whatever persuasion.

I don't have the ability to explain reads on anybody but Butters, and barely even her. If you all want to believe that kza isn't a person I could be confident on then kill me.

How does me asking you to articulate it equate to me not believing it? I am not Ender, IBA et al.

I think your perspective on KZA is fine and fair. Pull up your socks and get back in the game.

[Luckbox Inc]

can you articulate what it was about kza that made you townread them so vociferously?

Pure Kza tone that I first recognized in my first game with kza, when nanook tried to fake peek her.
But it doesn't matter.

Why doesn't it matter? it matters to me right now so it matters. Don't be all defeatist or you'll just get turboed. You owe it to your teammates of whatever persuasion.

I don't have the ability to explain reads on anybody but Butters, and barely even her. If you all want to believe that kza isn't a person I could be confident on then kill me.

I also had KZA firmly in my silent town.

It was more the reaction that felt weird.

Not that I needed much reason to flip you.

Why are you so smug so when you actually haven't done anything this game and your reads seem all over the place?
Why shouldn't I be flipping you?

Wait, I come across as smug?

That's not the intention.

It also seems like you're just making up your read on me

[MacDougall]

You know very well i like to buss if me and sean were both scum together. I would have voted sean if i was there btw.

are you saying you'd have voted sean if you were present regardless of your alignment and regardless of whether you were teammates?

[IBA]

Literally everything Luckbox says hinges on a pre-determined state of incuriosity about the game

What?

"Well kza was obviously town but the reasons were obvious, I don't have to explain, anyway it's pointless I'll obviously be lynched"

You do not seem to be at all driven by curiosity like

Almost like you just know the state of the game and everyone's alignments already or something

Yeah you're a wolf for just making stuff up

See now this is a townie response. Like, really wrong and bad, but townie.

[MacDougall]

@EnderWiggin were you the one that said "why not Jack" to me earlier?