AtLA post-game (mafia win)

[MartinGG99]

It's possible that LoMo derped in the sense that they didn't care enough to vote, but rn I don't feel like giving that thought

bc the other way to prevent the cop-check was to not do the puzzle and no way for others to know if you didn't do the puzzle

and also you have to have a certain level of investment into the game to even try a time-specific event

So you're saying it would have been a better play for mafia to not do the puzzle?

Indeed. If they wanted to sabotage it.

[Naviya]

I don't think that Monkey should like, be locked in a kill-slot for today
But otoh I don't think theyve done much villagery?

[MacDougall]

@lost monkey didn't vote in time. Or he/Falcon did, and a "falcon" voter appeared twice in my PM of the final vote tally.

nevermind the error was corrected Lost Monkey just didn't do a vote on Seanzie and left it on Falcon

so you guys had a mini vote to get a cop clear and tried to vote seanzie but lomo voted falcon?

yuuuuup

chances are its looking like it was a vote then leave

the chat was nuked so I can't go back to see what they said

why didn't you all just vote falcon if it was apparent lomo wasn't there?

Our votes were sent private. Nobody actually knew who was voting who until the result reveal

you mentioned it was a vote and leave so I am assuming that he was there at least at some point?

[sig]

I mean, it seems that lomo would almost have to be the kill here for negligence, I think lomo Sig would be good kills in that case. Any objections?

Since when is mafia about voting people for negligence?

Seems like an easy wagon to sheep and jump on you just keep aiming for low hanging fruit

[MartinGG99]

I don’t see the point in them outing themselves to avoid cop checking someone seems like a dumb mafia play?

Also I don’t quite understand how you know who voted what way if it was a private vote

Reasonable deniability in inactivity?

Why not just mess up puzzle then though?

I wanna see what they say of course but voting for someone off of this alone is silly and not smart gameplay.

Why even attend an event you may be inactive for, in which a game you could be reasonably inactive for large parts already

[NotAnAxehole]

I don’t see the point in them outing themselves to avoid cop checking someone seems like a dumb mafia play?

Also I don’t quite understand how you know who voted what way if it was a private vote

Reasonable deniability in inactivity?

Why not just mess up puzzle then though?

I wanna see what they say of course but voting for someone off of this alone is silly and not smart gameplay.

Can we kill Sig now?

[Guillotine]

[sig]

I don't think that Monkey should like, be locked in a kill-slot for today
But otoh I don't think theyve done much villagery?

Ah okay then, I figured you had same mind set as ax.

I think based off an outside view it’s nai or maybe even civ points since mafia would’ve played it smarter I’d think.


Though having said that I think chances are high there’s at least one mafia member who played.

My go to as a mafia player with an event is to get half the team in increase chances of winning ect

[sig]

I don’t see the point in them outing themselves to avoid cop checking someone seems like a dumb mafia play?

Also I don’t quite understand how you know who voted what way if it was a private vote

Reasonable deniability in inactivity?

Why not just mess up puzzle then though?

I wanna see what they say of course but voting for someone off of this alone is silly and not smart gameplay.

Why even attend an event you may be inactive for, in which a game you could be reasonably inactive for large parts already

[MacDougall]

Lomo is a potato so none of this surprises me in the least. I don't even think it's alignment indicative.

[MacDougall]

I don't think that Monkey should like, be locked in a kill-slot for today
But otoh I don't think theyve done much villagery?

Ah okay then, I figured you had same mind set as ax.

I think based off an outside view it’s nai or maybe even civ points since mafia would’ve played it smarter I’d think.


Though having said that I think chances are high there’s at least one mafia member who played.

My go to as a mafia player with an event is to get half the team in increase chances of winning ect

I'm curious as to who was ringleading the decisions. I wish I could read it.

[NotAnAxehole]

Lomo is a potato so none of this surprises me in the least. I don't even think it's alignment indicative.

It's not, but you have to draw a line somewhere and for me, denying town a cop check voluntarily is kill worthy, especially when there are two kills.

[MartinGG99]

no need to unless this is going to turn a w/w bus over the issue of not voting

could've easily not done the puzzle and noone would wiser other than "there's at least 1 scum in the group of 6 players or so"

[Guillotine]

Lomo is a potato so none of this surprises me in the least. I don't even think it's alignment indicative.

It's not, but you have to draw a line somewhere and for me, denying town a cop check voluntarily is kill worthy, especially when there are two kills.

[NotAnAxehole]

no need to unless this is going to turn a w/w bus over the issue of not voting

could've easily not done the puzzle and noone would wiser other than "there's at least 1 scum in the group of 6 players or so"

Sure, but this way you can argue there were no scum in the group of 6, and mafia chat would have been able to discuss what is happening presumably.

[ButterscotchSundae]

Okay, so sorry I haven't been around. I did get drunk on bourbon milkshakes last night which I HIGHLY recommend. And Leverage was amazing.

I did not get lucky, but 2/3 ain't bad. When does night fall in this game anyway?

[MartinGG99]

I don't think that Monkey should like, be locked in a kill-slot for today
But otoh I don't think theyve done much villagery?

Ah okay then, I figured you had same mind set as ax.

I think based off an outside view it’s nai or maybe even civ points since mafia would’ve played it smarter I’d think.


Though having said that I think chances are high there’s at least one mafia member who played.

My go to as a mafia player with an event is to get half the team in increase chances of winning ect

I'm curious as to who was ringleading the decisions. I wish I could read it.

if we measure based on activity or wall-posts off my memory I would say it was a mix of Me/Justin/Seanzie

Justin probably being the biggest one since he wanted to volunteer for consensus. And we did nearly try to cop-check him, but then Falcon got paranoid over possible investigative immunity as being a reason to volunteer.

[MacDougall]

Lomo is a potato so none of this surprises me in the least. I don't even think it's alignment indicative.

It's not, but you have to draw a line somewhere and for me, denying town a cop check voluntarily is kill worthy, especially when there are two kills.

If Lomo comes back to the thread he will either be obvious inno child or an open wolf so just wait.

[sig]

There’s no civ mindset world where you go after someone who is probably civ for messing something up it’s just the dumbest strategy ever.

If we wanna do that let’s also get rid of gullotine for meming, Justin for arguing, creature for not posting enough, the people who haven’t shown up and not even bother going after mafia.

[sig]

Okay, so sorry I haven't been around. I did get drunk on bourbon milkshakes last night which I HIGHLY recommend. And Leverage was amazing.

I did not get lucky, but 2/3 ain't bad. When does night fall in this game anyway?

What type of bourbon though.

[MacDougall]

I don't think that Monkey should like, be locked in a kill-slot for today
But otoh I don't think theyve done much villagery?

Ah okay then, I figured you had same mind set as ax.

I think based off an outside view it’s nai or maybe even civ points since mafia would’ve played it smarter I’d think.


Though having said that I think chances are high there’s at least one mafia member who played.

My go to as a mafia player with an event is to get half the team in increase chances of winning ect

I'm curious as to who was ringleading the decisions. I wish I could read it.

if we measure based on activity or wall-posts off my memory I would say it was a mix of Me/Justin/Seanzie

Justin probably being the biggest one since he wanted to volunteer for consensus. And we did nearly try to cop-check him, but then Falcon got paranoid over possible investigative immunity as being a reason to volunteer.

That sounds incredibly suspicious what.

[falcon45ca]

@lost monkey didn't vote in time. Or he/Falcon did, and a "falcon" voter appeared twice in my PM of the final vote tally.

nevermind the error was corrected Lost Monkey just didn't do a vote on Seanzie and left it on Falcon

so you guys had a mini vote to get a cop clear and tried to vote seanzie but lomo voted falcon?

yuuuuup

chances are its looking like it was a vote then leave

the chat was nuked so I can't go back to see what they said

why didn't you all just vote falcon if it was apparent lomo wasn't there?

Our votes were sent private. Nobody actually knew who was voting who until the result reveal

you mentioned it was a vote and leave so I am assuming that he was there at least at some point?

Honestly, I don't remember reading any posts of his.

[EnderWiggin]

Okay, so sorry I haven't been around. I did get drunk on bourbon milkshakes last night which I HIGHLY recommend. And Leverage was amazing.

I did not get lucky, but 2/3 ain't bad. When does night fall in this game anyway?

Spend an hour or so re-reading and thoughts?

[MacDougall]

how did you guys arrive at seanzie being the consensus if he was super active? how did he respond to the suggestions? were you expecting seanzie to be a red or green?

[NotAnAxehole]

There’s no civ mindset world where you go after someone who is probably civ for messing something up it’s just the dumbest strategy ever.

If we wanna do that let’s also get rid of gullotine for meming, Justin for arguing, creature for not posting enough, the people who haven’t shown up and not even bother going after mafia.

I mean, I'm operating under the assumption that you knew what the event was and what the result was before it finished. I'm just considering possibilities now. It might be that scum lead the initiative to get seanzie because they weren't really being considered in the thread and Sig is TMI lomo town. I'm actually leaning that way right now, but I would still kill lomo

[Luckbox Inc]

Okay, so sorry I haven't been around. I did get drunk on bourbon milkshakes last night which I HIGHLY recommend. And Leverage was amazing.

I did not get lucky, but 2/3 ain't bad. When does night fall in this game anyway?

are you really not a wolf?
(I was wondering when night is too)

[EnderWiggin]

There’s no civ mindset world where you go after someone who is probably civ for messing something up it’s just the dumbest strategy ever.

If we wanna do that let’s also get rid of gullotine for meming, Justin for arguing, creature for not posting enough, the people who haven’t shown up and not even bother going after mafia.

I mean, I'm operating under the assumption that you knew what the event was and what the result was before it finished. I'm just considering possibilities now. It might be that scum lead the initiative to get seanzie because they weren't really being considered in the thread and Sig is TMI lomo town. I'm actually leaning that way right now, but I would still kill lomo

So how quickly do they construct tunnels where you're from?

[NotAnAxehole]

Seanzie was probably just not going to be killed due to the low mention count, easy target

[ButterscotchSundae]

Okay, so sorry I haven't been around. I did get drunk on bourbon milkshakes last night which I HIGHLY recommend. And Leverage was amazing.

I did not get lucky, but 2/3 ain't bad. When does night fall in this game anyway?

What type of bourbon though.

Cheap. I mostly use it for making bourbon maple syrup to pour over my banana and brown butter waffles. But in a tall glass of almond milk and vanilla Haagen Dazs, the cheapness of the bourbon is really a non-problem.

[EnderWiggin]

Okay, so sorry I haven't been around. I did get drunk on bourbon milkshakes last night which I HIGHLY recommend. And Leverage was amazing.

I did not get lucky, but 2/3 ain't bad. When does night fall in this game anyway?

are you really not a wolf?
(I was wondering when night is too)

17ish hours.

[falcon45ca]

how did you guys arrive at seanzie being the consensus if he was super active? how did he respond to the suggestions? were you expecting seanzie to be a red or green?

Sean didn't want to be investigated, but voted with us on himself.

[Guillotine]

There’s no civ mindset world where you go after someone who is probably civ for messing something up it’s just the dumbest strategy ever.

If we wanna do that let’s also get rid of gullotine for meming, Justin for arguing, creature for not posting enough, the people who haven’t shown up and not even bother going after mafia.

[VOTE: Sig] aubergine

[NotAnAxehole]

There’s no civ mindset world where you go after someone who is probably civ for messing something up it’s just the dumbest strategy ever.

If we wanna do that let’s also get rid of gullotine for meming, Justin for arguing, creature for not posting enough, the people who haven’t shown up and not even bother going after mafia.

I mean, I'm operating under the assumption that you knew what the event was and what the result was before it finished. I'm just considering possibilities now. It might be that scum lead the initiative to get seanzie because they weren't really being considered in the thread and Sig is TMI lomo town. I'm actually leaning that way right now, but I would still kill lomo

So how quickly do they construct tunnels where you're from?

I'm not tunneled, I just have a read. If I was tunneling I'd still be on you.

[sig]

Okay, so sorry I haven't been around. I did get drunk on bourbon milkshakes last night which I HIGHLY recommend. And Leverage was amazing.

I did not get lucky, but 2/3 ain't bad. When does night fall in this game anyway?

What type of bourbon though.

Cheap. I mostly use it for making bourbon maple syrup to pour over my banana and brown butter waffles. But in a tall glass of almond milk and vanilla Haagen Dazs, the cheapness of the bourbon is really a non-problem.

Bourbon maple syrup

You may be one of my favorite people in the game now. Instant civ read, ride or die, never voting period

[MacDougall]

how did you guys arrive at seanzie being the consensus if he was super active? how did he respond to the suggestions? were you expecting seanzie to be a red or green?

Sean didn't want to be investigated, but voted with us on himself.

he didn't want to be investigated? why?

[sig]

There’s no civ mindset world where you go after someone who is probably civ for messing something up it’s just the dumbest strategy ever.

If we wanna do that let’s also get rid of gullotine for meming, Justin for arguing, creature for not posting enough, the people who haven’t shown up and not even bother going after mafia.

[VOTE: Sig] aubergine

[ButterscotchSundae]

Falcon got paranoid over possible investigative immunity as being a reason to volunteer.

That sounds like a reason to be incredibly suspicious of Falcon.
In what world would a wolf volunteer to be cop-checked knowing that they are not-checkable? All that would do is focus everyone's attention on them.

[NotAnAxehole]

how did you guys arrive at seanzie being the consensus if he was super active? how did he respond to the suggestions? were you expecting seanzie to be a red or green?

Sean didn't want to be investigated, but voted with us on himself.

he didn't want to be investigated? why?

Would you?

[EnderWiggin]

how did you guys arrive at seanzie being the consensus if he was super active? how did he respond to the suggestions? were you expecting seanzie to be a red or green?

Sean didn't want to be investigated, but voted with us on himself.

he didn't want to be investigated? why?

Didn't want to be investigated is a bad feel

[MacDougall]

Falcon got paranoid over possible investigative immunity as being a reason to volunteer.

That sounds like a reason to be incredibly suspicious of Falcon.
In what world would a wolf volunteer to be cop-checked knowing that they are not-checkable? All that would do is focus everyone's attention on them.

yes this

[EnderWiggin]

how did you guys arrive at seanzie being the consensus if he was super active? how did he respond to the suggestions? were you expecting seanzie to be a red or green?

Sean didn't want to be investigated, but voted with us on himself.

he didn't want to be investigated? why?

Would you?

Yes? Free cop-clear? Easiest path to dvc.

[MacDougall]

how did you guys arrive at seanzie being the consensus if he was super active? how did he respond to the suggestions? were you expecting seanzie to be a red or green?

Sean didn't want to be investigated, but voted with us on himself.

he didn't want to be investigated? why?

Would you?

Unless someone else in there was howling and I thought I could get a red check yes.

[sig]

how did you guys arrive at seanzie being the consensus if he was super active? how did he respond to the suggestions? were you expecting seanzie to be a red or green?

Sean didn't want to be investigated, but voted with us on himself.

he didn't want to be investigated? why?

Would you?

Why wouldn’t you if your civ though?

[ButterscotchSundae]

Okay, so sorry I haven't been around. I did get drunk on bourbon milkshakes last night which I HIGHLY recommend. And Leverage was amazing.

I did not get lucky, but 2/3 ain't bad. When does night fall in this game anyway?

are you really not a wolf?
(I was wondering when night is too)

In a brand new site with you in the game? I'd return a wolf pm to sender.

[EnderWiggin]

Falcon got paranoid over possible investigative immunity as being a reason to volunteer.

That sounds like a reason to be incredibly suspicious of Falcon.
In what world would a wolf volunteer to be cop-checked knowing that they are not-checkable? All that would do is focus everyone's attention on them.

Things that may be in this game:
3p (that isn't a jester, no jesters, fuck jesters now and forever)
Roles that effect the reliability of information received (i.e., godfather, miller, etc.)

Godfather maybe. Comes up inno.

[MartinGG99]

There’s no civ mindset world where you go after someone who is probably civ for messing something up it’s just the dumbest strategy ever.

If we wanna do that let’s also get rid of gullotine for meming, Justin for arguing, creature for not posting enough, the people who haven’t shown up and not even bother going after mafia.

For messing something up?

"Ah yes, I'm terribly sorry about missing the whole 6-hour event where I only stayed for the first hour and made no mention of my possible inactivity. Furthermore, I didn't even make a single message after Falcon had arrived somewhere in the middle of the process so I also apologize for not even checking for consensus and just dropping my vote on Falcon who could've been considered consensus but was never declared it"

like what

[NotAnAxehole]

how did you guys arrive at seanzie being the consensus if he was super active? how did he respond to the suggestions? were you expecting seanzie to be a red or green?

Sean didn't want to be investigated, but voted with us on himself.

he didn't want to be investigated? why?

Would you?

Unless someone else in there was howling and I thought I could get a red check yes.

Weird

[sig]

Falcon, ax, Sean are my three mafia reads atm.

Trying to divert away onto lomo using weak reasoning and keeping the wagon on me going to get two civs out.

I’ve also voted for both falcon and Ax and Ax never mentioned me until I did that so another reason in that field

[ButterscotchSundae]

Okay, so sorry I haven't been around. I did get drunk on bourbon milkshakes last night which I HIGHLY recommend. And Leverage was amazing.

I did not get lucky, but 2/3 ain't bad. When does night fall in this game anyway?

What type of bourbon though.

Cheap. I mostly use it for making bourbon maple syrup to pour over my banana and brown butter waffles. But in a tall glass of almond milk and vanilla Haagen Dazs, the cheapness of the bourbon is really a non-problem.

Bourbon maple syrup

You may be one of my favorite people in the game now. Instant civ read, ride or die, never voting period

lmao...I have a pic of the last time I made it if you want to see...

[Guillotine]

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine