Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]

[orangecrush]

Thinking falcon is prob wolf here. Been mostly pushing for town only.

How the hell do you know who's town?

I'm sure they mean the flips that have been town but like how many have there been? Nkt enough to substantiate the read

[Herm]

From my experience, Serial Killer is more likely to be included than Vig.

Depends entirely on the Town roles though.

[Herm]

Ender and Alison both being Villager makes me feel like it's probably Town Vig.

[orangecrush]

Ender and Alison both being Villager makes me feel like it's probably Town Vig.

That's a weird conclusion to have come to.

Why?

[Herm]

[VOTE: Duskfall] aubergine

Dammit @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME it's rude to vote without mentioning it, and doubly rude when you don't post at all.

Scummy behavior from Nanook imo.

[Creature]

Thinking falcon is prob wolf here. Been mostly pushing for town only.

How the hell do you know who's town?

As fair I have seen, you were on Herm, Ydrasse, Duskfall and me and I believe we're all town here so you've been mostly pushing town.

[Herm]

Ender and Alison both being Villager makes me feel like it's probably Town Vig.

That's a weird conclusion to have come to.

Why?

The way I'm used to how it's balanced is that if Town has a bunch of Vanillas in a -20 player game, they probably need a few PR to make up for it.

Serial Killer + 3P + Mafia VS Town Villagers feels a bit lopsided imo

[Herm]

Oh right. It's Wolves on this site lol.

[Herm]

[VOTE: Don Wurzeloni] aubergine

[Herm]

How come Ydrasse is getting scunread?

[orangecrush]

Ender and Alison both being Villager makes me feel like it's probably Town Vig.

That's a weird conclusion to have come to.

Why?

The way I'm used to how it's balanced is that if Town has a bunch of Vanillas in a -20 player game, they probably need a few PR to make up for it.

Serial Killer + 3P + Mafia VS Town Villagers feels a bit lopsided imo

Ahhhh you mean villager as in powerless. That makes sense now

[orangecrush]

If there is a vig they shouldn't claim the kill btw

[falcon45ca]

Thinking falcon is prob wolf here. Been mostly pushing for town only.

How the hell do you know who's town?

I'm sure they mean the flips that have been town but like how many have there been? Nkt enough to substantiate the read

I don't think that's what he meant, cuz he said I've been pushing town only, and I didn't push anyone who's flipped.


He's talking about himself, Herm & Ydresse

[KZA]

[VOTE: duskfall] aubergine

[orangecrush]

Thinking falcon is prob wolf here. Been mostly pushing for town only.

How the hell do you know who's town?

I'm sure they mean the flips that have been town but like how many have there been? Nkt enough to substantiate the read

I don't think that's what he meant, cuz he said I've been pushing town only, and I didn't push anyone who's flipped.


He's talking about himself, Herm & Ydresse

Regardless of what they meant it is not a good post at all.

[Creature]

Oh right. It's Wolves on this site lol.

Nah I think wolf is more of an MU thing

[Creature]

Though we should prob be using wolves so it's birds vs wolves

[Creature]

I highly believe Duskfall, Herm and Ydrasse are birds here

[Herm]

@Duskfall why no voting?

[falcon45ca]

Thinking falcon is prob wolf here. Been mostly pushing for town only.

How the hell do you know who's town?

As fair I have seen, you were on Herm, Ydrasse, Duskfall and me and I believe we're all town here so you've been mostly pushing town.

Oh, cuz I'm not pushing your reads, then I must be scum right?


That's not a towny mindset.


You have no reason to be so certain they're town, and even if they are, what you expect all town to only push your wolf reads?

[KZA]

@Duskfall why no voting?

I suspect it's because they haven't decided where to vote yet

they were too busy making 20 posts about where the 2nd kill came from to scumhunt

[KZA]

I highly believe Duskfall, Herm and Ydrasse are birds here

okay why Dusk and Herm real quick

[Creature]

Thinking falcon is prob wolf here. Been mostly pushing for town only.

How the hell do you know who's town?

As fair I have seen, you were on Herm, Ydrasse, Duskfall and me and I believe we're all town here so you've been mostly pushing town.

Oh, cuz I'm not pushing your reads, then I must be scum right?


That's not a towny mindset.


You have no reason to be so certain they're town, and even if they are, what you expect all town to only push your wolf reads?

Okay hopefully Gavial/Ydrasse I don't need to explain because they already had that whole fiasco and claimed PR in a position wolves wouldn't have any reason to claim.

Herm was Gavial's townread and I'm willing to trust him there because Gavial correctly found hollowkatt was non-town. I think I also had particularly seen towniness from Herm.

Duskfall is probably my least solid townread out of the three, but I still have a feeling they're just town here and their posts didn't struck me as wolf.

[KZA]

where tf did Tim come from

[falcon45ca]

There were 2 kills last night, neither look like they were Vig targets, and we want to believe Gav/Ydress PR claim on the slot?



A largely town read slot, and it slipped the MK & SK (possible VK granted) on an investigation PR claim?


Really? What's Ydrasse investigation last night I wonder

[KZA]

I don't really like Creature trying to shade Falcon by preflipping 3 slots

[KZA]

[VOTE: Duskfall] aubergine

Dammit @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME it's rude to vote without mentioning it, and doubly rude when you don't post at all.

Scummy behavior from Nanook imo.

it's like so blatantly terrible that it's making me question my sanity and wonder if it's TWTBW

Nanook does love a good slank

[Herm]

Did Alison go from scunreading Wurzel to townreading him?

I might go back and double check later when I'm home.

[falcon45ca]

Ender and Alison both being Villager makes me feel like it's probably Town Vig.

That's a weird conclusion to have come to.

Why?

The way I'm used to how it's balanced is that if Town has a bunch of Vanillas in a -20 player game, they probably need a few PR to make up for it.

Serial Killer + 3P + Mafia VS Town Villagers feels a bit lopsided imo

That explanation makes no sense, if one of them were Maf that would change your opinion on VK vs SK?

But the game setup would be the same, that makes no sense. Even if they were both Maf, the setup w/o a VK would still be 3P v Maf v TP.


Your explanation makes no sense, and I think your scum

[VOTE: HERM] aubergine

[Herm]

I don't really like Creature trying to shade Falcon by preflipping 3 slots

He's right about me, but not sure about the other two.

Although I had a good read on Gavial on D1 the first half.

[Herm]

Hmm

[falcon45ca]

Did I mention it makes no sense?

[Herm]

Falcon, your response to my post confuses me lol.

But I don't think SK is in the game with Wolves and Villagers in the lineup. Town probably needs a Vig with a bunch of Villagers, if that makes sense?

[falcon45ca]

Falcon, your response to my post confuses me lol.

But I don't think SK is in the game with Wolves and Villagers in the lineup. Town probably needs a Vig with a bunch of Villagers, if that makes sense?

I've never seen a game that has an SK that didn't also have Wolves and Villagers, so no it doesn't make sense.




Sensey no makey

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: UNVOTE] aubergine

[Herm]

Mafia as in plural, (Wolves). Wolf Team, not a single player, a faction.

Let's say 3 Wolves. Maybe 4.

If there's a SK in the game killing, then Town a bunch of PR to balance it out.

Seems to lean towards a Town Vig tbh.

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: CREATURE] aubergine

[falcon45ca]

Mafia as in plural, (Wolves). Wolf Team, not a single player, a faction.

Let's say 3 Wolves. Maybe 4.

If there's a SK in the game killing, then Town a bunch of PR to balance it out.

Seems to lean towards a Town Vig tbh.

Why does a Vig hit Alison or Ender? Both were fairly town read players

[orangecrush]

What is Creature experience level

[orangecrush]

Mafia as in plural, (Wolves). Wolf Team, not a single player, a faction.

Let's say 3 Wolves. Maybe 4.

If there's a SK in the game killing, then Town a bunch of PR to balance it out.

Seems to lean towards a Town Vig tbh.

Why does a Vig hit Alison or Ender? Both were fairly town read players

Alison was not vigged. No chance, unless the vig is completely clueless or brand new

[falcon45ca]

What is Creature experience level

He's a Level 3 Super Saiyan

[KZA]

Falcon what are you doing lol

[falcon45ca]

Falcon what are you doing lol

I had a Diet Dr Pepper, and now I'm all fiesty

[Timsup2nothin]

[VOTE: Duskfall] aubergine

Dammit @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME it's rude to vote without mentioning it, and doubly rude when you don't post at all.

Scummy behavior from Nanook imo.

Well, Nanook is probably woofin' here...but this particular thing is more just typical Nanook than a real AI point.

[Timsup2nothin]

where tf did Tim come from

Prison.

[Ydrasse]

huh, those are kills.

i actually don't think ender is a bad vigshot all things considered but i don't know if i could really ~see~ what other people saw that was very towny in them. i'm treating it like a vigshot because having a sk too feels off-kilter and i have some soulread on it being a vig or something idk. it fits.

i've softened considerably on my read on tim's slot, and think i'm ready to leave that behind me now.

had an urge to vote orangecrush when i was skimming. just felt like could be a wolf compared to other reads.

however. [VOTE: duskfall] aubergine. cool with this for now, could go for wurz. that's it for now.

[Timsup2nothin]

i've softened considerably on my read on tim's slot, and think i'm ready to leave that behind me now.

I suspect this is swimming strongly against the current in the thread so could you explain please?

[Timsup2nothin]

So here's the deal.

Over the next four chops if we kill Nanook, Wurzel, Wiml, and Kza we will have eliminated enough wolves to have time to sort out whatever else needs to be done, and will have enough red flips to inform us how to do that.

I'll be back well before EoD.

Y'all decide which of those you wanna kill first.

[Don Wurzeloni]

Morning all

Have to say my confidence has been knocked slightly but we can still win this. If we think it is 10-4 then we definitely need to catch a wolf today and need to up the solving as a team

Yesterday I asked for everyone’s top 3 town and top 3 scum reads and only got 2 answers so please can I have these from everyone else.

My personal goal for today is to start ISOing my nulls. I should probably start with Duskfall.

I also want to revisit Alison’s ISO

[Don Wurzeloni]

Mafia as in plural, (Wolves). Wolf Team, not a single player, a faction.

Let's say 3 Wolves. Maybe 4.

If there's a SK in the game killing, then Town a bunch of PR to balance it out.

Seems to lean towards a Town Vig tbh.

I agree. I don’t see there would be an SK (but then I didn’t think there would be 3P full stop). I think two 3ps would seriously risk unbalancing the game.