outed wolf wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:36 am
i think you have an interesting perspective on the game dys, so id really appreciate your overview when you get to it
Well, it doesn't feel easy. And I'm a player who tends towards wanting to town read people. I'm pretty over my Nut suspicion that I actually did have (Dya was so mad at Nut and went against consensus town read on Nut, which I felt was weird in a bad way). But after reading more and just seeing how Nut posts today, Nut is just town. All flipped scum seems to TMI Nut town in the beginning of their ISO.
I think Zack is town. I had a feeling Zack was not teamed with Dya even before Dya flipped. As I've mentioned before, I think scum was kind of happy to let me be suspicious of Zack in the beginning, and neither Dya or Vulgard said much about it, and I think they would if Zack was teamed, cause he did get some attention then. Also, the post I just pointed out, where Dya follows a defence on them with "Exactly" reads very much like scum piggy backing town.
There's things I like and some things I remember not liking from SPF. I didn't like her posts at the start of D3. I distinctly remember all of her posts reading to me like she just softly town claimed, and that was kind of it. All of her posts were basically "Well I don't know since I'm town" (this is from memory and how I took them). And to be fair, town can also post like this. It's also just the fear. But then, her posting today has been good imo. I did share her thought about Dya/Alison being a possibility earlier in the game, she now says she had the same catch about Zack that I had (which I believe, cause it's just very abnormal for scum to lie like that). I don't know. I could definitely see her posts and perspective coming from her as town here.
Nut has said nice stuff about you and how you went after Dya. So I'll check that myself. I haven't read that yet. When I read (parts of) Vulgard's ISO, I couldn't clear you off of it. Same for Dya really. So the jury is out, but at the same time, I feel I've had ok reasons to town read you throughout the game, particularly, I've felt like you've actually have been interested to solve me and don't know my alignment. I also am quite ready to buy your explanation about the freakout being unnecessary if scum.
c4 is definitely solving the least, yes. He did say he was busy with we-know-what. I don't understand why he votes me or think it's me. It started off with "Why is Dizzy not in the PoE", which have been answered. And today I'm apparently the one. So I would like to know more about that. I think the bigger reason to town read him is actually how he thought Alison was going to claim PT and how he went about that, and this may sound dumb, but I'm not sure why I think that's towny lol. It just seemed a bit out there and weird. But yeah, I'll check again how much c4 tried to get Dya chopped on D2. I remember him being the sole vote on Dya at one point.
Arete, I haven't paid to much attention to before now. I find their posts a bit difficult to digest tbh. I tried reading their post about the Syn slot last day, and I just didn't follow. I've asked a couple of times about their relation to Vulgard, but I don't think I've gotten an answer. There's obviously a relationship there. I wonder if it's like me/Hally or something. The overt defence is absurd, and maybe absurd enough to be two wolves deciding to hard town read each other throughout the game. But I think Arete did it quicker and harder than Vulgard did. I want to check their reaction to Dya having them towards the bottom of their read list when they hadn't interacted much before that.
So... this is not very conclusive. And it's also kind of dumb, and imo not even all that good for cohesion/working together, to list people in most to least town, when in fact there's just one mafia, buuut, I think the way I listed in here is how I might list it in my head right now. Not quite sure between Aroot/c4. You and SPF higher and interchangeable, probably town. Nut and Zack should just be town.