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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 6]

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I could consider swapping Alison for Martin. I don't think either of them looks bad in their mafia interactions. I'm not sure Martin has something to match Owner's handling of Alison though. One could argue Made's handling of Martin is comparable, though the wifom potential is elevated given the timing.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 6]

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given that you have four names I think you should consider not chopping me
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I really have two names tee bee aych
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 6]

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:47 am
lost monkey wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:46 am lol the thread entered trippy state.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:53 am I really have two names tee bee aych
no you have to have time to chop Marmot
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I had this crazy idea for a new type of ad in the future. This is when holographic ads are a thing. So the ad starts by projecting silhouettes of humans doing stuff like running or stretching or crouching. You go to that location and adopt that pose. Then the hologram fires to life around you and you're now an actor in the ad.

For example: a burger chain ad wants to show happy customers eating their burgers. So they project a sitting down silhouette, you obey, and now you take the role of the person eating the delicious looking hologram burger. If you refuse to follow the silhouette it just shows the hologram of an actor filling the role and you get left out of the scene.y

These ads let you feel immersed in the ad and like a part of doing something with the company which drives sales. TikTokers start taking videos of themselves participating in the ads, or subverting them (eg. by pretending to make a disgusted face and throw up at the sight of the burger), but this only creates more ad exposure for the companies. And because people are having so much fun acting in the ad, they don't remember to skip it.
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I think the once holographic ads are thing is a bit of a problem
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Realistically I'd go Gnome (red checked) -> Mac (next most sus) always, and then if game isn't ended do a full re-eval including of Martin.
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It's hard not to envision Gnome and Mac ending it tbqh
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Why not Alison?
Owner treated her like she was frightened.

Why not Allcrab?
Sonny treated him like he was a TMI doofus.

Why not Esooa?
Mason

Why not lost monkey?
nutella wanted him as her Day 1 chop.

Why not MartinGG99?
Mafia forgot he exists until Made tried to run him up as a counterwagon.

Why not Sloonei?
Desperado backup go pew pew
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:59 am Why not Allcrab?
Sonny treated him like he was a TMI doofus.
apparently this was a trend
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:26 am All y'all: who would you include in your POE pool of exactly three mafia suspects?
Mac -> Gnome -> LoMo

I haven't really checked on LoMo recently nor compared him to Allcrab yet.

Mac & Gnome could be switched if I'm convinced it's possible and not implausible that there's two town in Mac/Alison. I just feel a bit surprised that both of them are alive up to this point along with JJJ and Sloonei.
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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:36 am i have a strong opposition to towns doing stupid things
I feel like this is a personal attack

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i mean in some sense there's the SK effect here but also if Mac's a wolf I just cannot see the wolf making that kill pattern, leave everything else out of it
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MartinGG99 wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:00 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:26 am All y'all: who would you include in your POE pool of exactly three mafia suspects?
Mac -> Gnome -> LoMo

I haven't really checked on LoMo recently nor compared him to Allcrab yet.

Mac & Gnome could be switched if I'm convinced it's possible and not implausible that there's two town in Mac/Alison. I just feel a bit surprised that both of them are alive up to this point along with JJJ and Sloonei.
Gnome got red checked
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Well, pseudo red checked by someone who could easily be lying but hey, that description applies to hawkataine and we exed her anyways
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did gnome actually get red checked by people who weren't me because i was making it up
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oh
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MartinGG99 wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:00 am Mac & Gnome could be switched if I'm convinced it's possible and not implausible that there's two town in Mac/Alison. I just feel a bit surprised that both of them are alive up to this point along with JJJ and Sloonei.
I think it becomes a bit less surprising considering the mafia personnel:

orangecrush was a replacement and barely had time to properly acclimate before getting blasted.
Made had no idea what was going on.
Gnome (if applicable) revels in being enigmatic, is glued to me, and until today wasn't a big suspect for those names.
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yeah i don't think it's a hard red, a mafia member could be making trouble, but yeah
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I wouldn't consider Gnome red checked, but I do think Tony being poisoner and tonight's dialogue can push her from 1B to 1A in her POE duel with Mac.
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If the last mafia is Gnome and Mac is pure let's all agree to ahistorically portray this game as an example of JJJ-Mac-Sloonei-Alison power town crew being left alive and killing all the mafia with only one misexe in 7 days and ignore all the silly infighting we did.
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You're still my boo, Gnomey. You can't help who you are. :hugs:
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do it in 6 do it in 6 do it in 6
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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:05 am do it in 6 do it in 6 do it in 6
7 is more impressive because if presented out of context it looks like you had more consecutive mafia exes
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If we can finish the win, it will also have been with the irreplaceable and critical contributions of our Personality/Mafia Cafe friends. :biggrin:
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And Seanzie and everybody. Yay team
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 6]

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Alison wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:04 am If the last mafia is Gnome and Mac is pure let's all agree to ahistorically portray this game as an example of JJJ-Mac-Sloonei-Alison power town crew being left alive and killing all the mafia with only one misexe in 7 days and ignore all the silly infighting we did.
Also just to be clear this is a joke, everyone in the game played well and contributed significantly to a town win if this is the world, often in irreplaceable ways
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But, like.

Not win yet. Finish strong k
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 6]

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Alison wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:06 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:05 am do it in 6 do it in 6 do it in 6
7 is more impressive because if presented out of context it looks like you had more consecutive mafia exes
you can still /say/ seven
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 6]

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tsp was chopped and died from poison is a message i would like to see let me do both pls
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i claimed so that mac may live
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which actually is a good reason to think that mac is mafia tbh
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Watch tsp flip town poisoner.
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hard claim town poisoner
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don't chop me
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it'll ruin your streak
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Where are the anti claim mechanics that were advertised?

Maybe nutella was a soupkiller and that's what her role meant?
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he gon flip JOAT like he claimed first
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Maybe the anti claim mechanics is just duplicate poison healer/watcher, scum lover, etc.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 6]

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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:17 am i think she was scared that mafia would blast her, given her clear, and that the only way to rectify that situation was to kill all the mafia
keep in mind that Tangy was outed not mafia d1 and left alive all game and the mafia had a rolecop
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Alison wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:11 am Where are the anti claim mechanics that were advertised?

Maybe nutella was a soupkiller and that's what her role meant?
I think the intent is less about deterring claiming and more about reducing the effect of claiming and creating uncertainty, e.g. how can town have two healers???, with design wrinkles.
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vest
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Speaking of which, with TSP's claim we now know that there are duplicate town roles (since there is no longer space for both allcrab/lomo and martin to be scum) which makes the watcher/poison healer "same claim" scandals less of an issue.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 6]

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I think its worth looking at the POE to find evidence of TMI on the Tangy/TSP slot being 3p poisoner. It's extremely likely the mafia knew.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:13 am
Alison wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:11 am Where are the anti claim mechanics that were advertised?

Maybe nutella was a soupkiller and that's what her role meant?
I think the intent is less about deterring claiming and more about reducing the effect of claiming and creating uncertainty, e.g. how can town have two healers???, with design wrinkles.
and that's why I'm a town poisoner
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i shoulda just claimed town poisoner as soon as I subbed in and we never would have had this nonsense
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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:08 am tsp was chopped and died from poison is a message i would like to see let me do both pls
If had another heal shot I would've submitted it to Marmot at you as a joke for this.

"TSP didn't get a seventh date!"

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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 6]

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Alison wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:21 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:20 am what's GTO
game theoretically optimal
lol jesus
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i mean i still lose but at least town would play optimally
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