Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]

[Esooa]

I am a muse. I target someone every night and it guarantees they get to use their ability (roleblock prevention).

N1 Idled.
N2 I targeted Tangrowth.
N3 Idled.
N4 I targeted Jay.
N5 I intentionally holstered.

Why does this "sound bad"?

Why idle?

I forgot to use my role twice.

I’ll come clean team. I have failed you.
I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night.

[MacDougall]

I am a muse. I target someone every night and it guarantees they get to use their ability (roleblock prevention).

N1 Idled.
N2 I targeted Tangrowth.
N3 Idled.
N4 I targeted Jay.
N5 I intentionally holstered.

Why does this "sound bad"?

Why idle?

I forgot to use my role twice.

I’ll come clean team. I have failed you.
I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night.

[MacDougall]

Garden Gnome surviving is wifom at this point. I don't think Gnome is the sort of person who could fool Jay of their alignment in a night chat so I am just gonna sheep his read of her and ignore the mech.

For me the mafia is very likely just Martin. I think the poisoner is probably Alison and she has a fake poison.

[MacDougall]

Alison being 3p and having a godread on Martin can easily just be her actually realising he was mafia d1 and pocketing mafia intentionally to avoid nk also. That is entirely within her range.

[MacDougall]

Nanook was the second mason!!!
All right.
I think that means that esooa is town.

There was an extended conversation where they openly claimed it btw.

[MacDougall]

Technically possible Gnome is mafia. I am going to wait for someone to tell me why she is alive before I dwell further on that.

How is it technically possible as opposed to just possible?

[MacDougall]

The fact that I am not poisoned speaks well for Allcrab. Being investigative doesn't preclude being mafia.

Maybe.

[MacDougall]

Leaning towards Alison being scum rather than Mac. I will vote Mac though if he doesn't claim.

Any reason in particular?

[MacDougall]

Leaning towards Alison being scum rather than Mac. I will vote Mac though if he doesn't claim.

Mac's lack of a claim has me leaning poisoner. Either way though I agree it's a problem.

Imagine a world in which Alison, Sloonei and Jay are alive with me being 3p poisoner... you can't.

[MacDougall]

Mafia prospects: Mac, Martin, Alison, Allcrab

Poisoner prospects: Tony, Mac, Martin

Someone yell at me if I am missing a player. It's hard to keep the two sides straight. I'll try to order them...

Maf - Mac = Alison > Martin > Allcrab

Poison - Mac > Tony > Martin

Humour Alison as a poisoner prospect. You will thank me.

[MacDougall]

Mafia prospects: Mac, Martin, Alison, Allcrab

Poisoner prospects: Tony, Mac, Martin

Someone yell at me if I am missing a player. It's hard to keep the two sides straight. I'll try to order them...

Maf - Mac = Alison > Martin > Allcrab

Poison - Mac > Tony > Martin

big doubt on Martin being mafia

Based on?

[MacDougall]

Martin’s town

I kinda hope he wins as mafia here now. Dude is getting disrespected.

[MacDougall]

I don't know that I would prioritize either mafia or poisoner today. Getting rid of one or the other removes a kill from the game, and it's conceivable they can both kill each other. For that reason my initial voting interest lies with Mac -- he's a good candidate to be either one. I am going to let the day develop a bit before I start spamming out calls for a wagon though or even placing my own vote. Level heads prevail.

How dare you

[MacDougall]

Allcrab and LoMo can confirm my role in coordination I think.

For instance. Allcrab targets whomever. Force me to target them to. LoMo also watches them. If I target them they together will get a full watch result. If I don't target the player or one of those two dies then I am outed.

[Esooa]

Mac why are your posts today scummy

[MacDougall]

Mac why are your posts today scummy

How are they? I am just stating the situation. I am also laying in bed phone posting so I am probably not as articulate as usual.

[Esooa]

Mac why are your posts today scummy

How are they? I am just stating the situation. I am also laying in bed phone posting so I am probably not as articulate as usual.

your read on Alison/Martin not being explained save trying to explain how it's possible, not likely (we're disrespecting Martin cause he could apparently wolf like this, no reasons as to why he is a wolf, etc) and having no thoughts on sloonei/jjj/lost monkey/allcrab. Seems you're more interested in putting someone below you in the PoE than anything else

[TonyStarkPrime]

I think Mac is probably not mafia and that Martin is also fairly likely town but I’m sorta unsure on that. His ISO just doesn’t really add up for him to be a wolf poison healer.

I may have mech to support these reads but will not elaborate further unless Jay starts complaining really loudly

[TonyStarkPrime]

I also suddenly think that someone TMIed today but I don’t know who

[MacDougall]

Mac why are your posts today scummy

How are they? I am just stating the situation. I am also laying in bed phone posting so I am probably not as articulate as usual.

your read on Alison/Martin not being explained save trying to explain how it's possible, not likely (we're disrespecting Martin cause he could apparently wolf like this, no reasons as to why he is a wolf, etc) and having no thoughts on sloonei/jjj/lost monkey/allcrab. Seems you're more interested in putting someone below you in the PoE than anything else

Don't turn on me nowwww God damn it

[Garden Gnome]

Mafia prospects: Mac, Martin, Alison, Allcrab

Poisoner prospects: Tony, Mac, Martin

Someone yell at me if I am missing a player. It's hard to keep the two sides straight. I'll try to order them...

Maf - Mac = Alison > Martin > Allcrab

Poison - Mac > Tony > Martin

Humour Alison as a poisoner prospect. You will thank me.

Sure.
Alison said that she forgot to use her role.
No one got poisoned.
It's definitely possible.

[TonyStarkPrime]

What was the rationale for watching me, Allcrab?

considering me explaining my rational yesterday I thought they'd switch it up and go after a villager.

My rationale keeps being right but I keep picking the wrong target lol.

@MacDougall do you see what I see

[MacDougall]

Mac why are your posts today scummy

How are they? I am just stating the situation. I am also laying in bed phone posting so I am probably not as articulate as usual.

your read on Alison/Martin not being explained save trying to explain how it's possible, not likely (we're disrespecting Martin cause he could apparently wolf like this, no reasons as to why he is a wolf, etc) and having no thoughts on sloonei/jjj/lost monkey/allcrab. Seems you're more interested in putting someone below you in the PoE than anything else

Martin can be wolf i don't need to invent any reason for it. He's just the only candidate that's really left fmpov.

Jay and Sloonei are confirmed town imo. Allcrab is confirmed to be his role and so is LoMo imo.

I will worry about other worlds if need be. I think between Martin and Alison it makes more sense for Martin to be wolf and Alison to be poisoner.

[MacDougall]

What was the rationale for watching me, Allcrab?

considering me explaining my rational yesterday I thought they'd switch it up and go after a villager.

My rationale keeps being right but I keep picking the wrong target lol.

@MacDougall do you see what I see

hmmm yeh

[MacDougall]

Ok that is pretty damning Allcrab probably slipped as poisoner.

[MacDougall]

I guess that makes Alison just the mafia then.

[MacDougall]

I am probably just going to sheep whatever Sloonei decides up to and including self voting lol.

[MacDougall]

@Sloonei make words gud

[Esooa]

Mac why are your posts today scummy

How are they? I am just stating the situation. I am also laying in bed phone posting so I am probably not as articulate as usual.

your read on Alison/Martin not being explained save trying to explain how it's possible, not likely (we're disrespecting Martin cause he could apparently wolf like this, no reasons as to why he is a wolf, etc) and having no thoughts on sloonei/jjj/lost monkey/allcrab. Seems you're more interested in putting someone below you in the PoE than anything else

Martin can be wolf i don't need to invent any reason for it. He's just the only candidate that's really left fmpov.

Jay and Sloonei are confirmed town imo. Allcrab is confirmed to be his role and so is LoMo imo.

I will worry about other worlds if need be. I think between Martin and Alison it makes more sense for Martin to be wolf and Alison to be poisoner.

why does role confirmed mean it's good?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Gnome confirmed Allcrab’s investigation on me. I’m not poisoned. How is Allcrab the poisoner?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

What was the rationale for watching me, Allcrab?

considering me explaining my rational yesterday I thought they'd switch it up and go after a villager.

My rationale keeps being right but I keep picking the wrong target lol.

@MacDougall do you see what I see

Why did you direct this at Mac?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

For me the mafia is very likely just Martin. I think the poisoner is probably Alison and she has a fake poison.

Implementing a fake poison into a game with one or more healers makes very little sense. They're just going to blow their wads on a fake poison. What?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

What was the rationale for watching me, Allcrab?

considering me explaining my rational yesterday I thought they'd switch it up and go after a villager.

My rationale keeps being right but I keep picking the wrong target lol.

@MacDougall do you see what I see

hmmm yeh

Please cut the shit with this ominous ooloolooing and say what you're saying -- both of you. It's Day 6.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I think we just kill made today, hopefully I can get NKed now that I've claimed, and tomorrow you can figure it out but I'd recommend allcrab

The poisoner is very likely either town or 3p that's being townread btw, doubt they'd keep poisoning the poe if they're mafia

I guess if mafia is in the towncore they might but idk why you'd bother when there's plenty of mid tier people to poison instead

Just some legacy-adjacent stuff from Nanook to put out there.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@lost monkey any actions you like to speak of from Night 5?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@TonyStarkPrime you're the last non-claim on the board. Sup

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Perhaps the worst thing going for Allcrab is that his role is probably the most powerful remaining in the game, has been pseudo-public for over half of it, and he's still here.

Hard to trace that reasoning too far with so many other people that theoretically "should" be dead. At a certain point that becomes deliberate strategy I think, and it's one I have employed as mafia before -- harder for people to freak out that I am still alive when [insert perceived high clout player(s)] are also still alive. This post might be worthless. I am thinking aloud and want the thread alive.

[MartinGG99]

I doubt Martin is the poisoner a lot more than I doubted it on Day 5. I don't have a mechanical reason to say he isn't mafia.

That's how it should be. I mean, not considering other slots/factors, I am more likely to be mafia for what I've done than I am poisoner. Two day phases ago I think the running theory was that I could be mafia healer. As much as they were wrong, I didn't find issues with those arguing that. It was fairly conceivable.

But lately more and more people with more frequent suggestions of who I am have been pointing at poisoner. Which sounds not really plausible to me given the substantial risks I took (from a hypothetical 3P poisoner perspective). It also feeks a bit like "oh, well if he's unlikely to be mafia, then he HAS to be poisoner, right?". Which leads me to the conclusion that people are just finding me scummy in general (and not with much consideration for D3 overall) and maybe or maybe not want me to be a wolf of some sort simply for their solving's sake.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Gnome confirmed Allcrab’s investigation on me. I’m not poisoned. How is Allcrab the poisoner?

Yep I’m aware of this

[TonyStarkPrime]

What was the rationale for watching me, Allcrab?

considering me explaining my rational yesterday I thought they'd switch it up and go after a villager.

My rationale keeps being right but I keep picking the wrong target lol.

@MacDougall do you see what I see

Why did you direct this at Mac?

He was around and he’s good at this stuff

[TonyStarkPrime]

For me the mafia is very likely just Martin. I think the poisoner is probably Alison and she has a fake poison.

Implementing a fake poison into a game with one or more healers makes very little sense. They're just going to blow their wads on a fake poison. What?

Usually that’s the point

[TonyStarkPrime]

What was the rationale for watching me, Allcrab?

considering me explaining my rational yesterday I thought they'd switch it up and go after a villager.

My rationale keeps being right but I keep picking the wrong target lol.

@MacDougall do you see what I see

hmmm yeh

Please cut the shit with this ominous ooloolooing and say what you're saying -- both of you. It's Day 6.

Allcrab implies here that he knows the poisoner’s target despite the fact that this information is not available in thread nor had it even been particularly speculated on.

[TonyStarkPrime]

I doubt Martin is the poisoner a lot more than I doubted it on Day 5. I don't have a mechanical reason to say he isn't mafia.

That's how it should be. I mean, not considering other slots/factors, I am more likely to be mafia for what I've done than I am poisoner. Two day phases ago I think the running theory was that I could be mafia healer. As much as they were wrong, I didn't find issues with those arguing that. It was fairly conceivable.

But lately more and more people with more frequent suggestions of who I am have been pointing at poisoner. Which sounds not really plausible to me given the substantial risks I took (from a hypothetical 3P poisoner perspective). It also feeks a bit like "oh, well if he's unlikely to be mafia, then he HAS to be poisoner, right?". Which leads me to the conclusion that people are just finding me scummy in general (and not with much consideration for D3 overall) and maybe or maybe not want me to be a wolf of some sort simply for their solving's sake.

Did you claim the heal on GG and I missed it or no

[TonyStarkPrime]

@TonyStarkPrime you're the last non-claim on the board. Sup

I’m aware of this.

[MartinGG99]

I doubt Martin is the poisoner a lot more than I doubted it on Day 5. I don't have a mechanical reason to say he isn't mafia.

That's how it should be. I mean, not considering other slots/factors, I am more likely to be mafia for what I've done than I am poisoner. Two day phases ago I think the running theory was that I could be mafia healer. As much as they were wrong, I didn't find issues with those arguing that. It was fairly conceivable.

But lately more and more people with more frequent suggestions of who I am have been pointing at poisoner. Which sounds not really plausible to me given the substantial risks I took (from a hypothetical 3P poisoner perspective). It also feeks a bit like "oh, well if he's unlikely to be mafia, then he HAS to be poisoner, right?". Which leads me to the conclusion that people are just finding me scummy in general (and not with much consideration for D3 overall) and maybe or maybe not want me to be a wolf of some sort simply for their solving's sake.

Did you claim the heal on GG and I missed it or no

Nope.

I've been a 1-shot healer since claiming it SoD3. I have no clue as to what mechanic saved Gnome.

I'm rather doubtful that it's another healer. That would make 3 healers in the game (2 town, 1 mafia) which sounds odd and the hypothetical mafia-healer could've just joined in with the claims at some point.

[Garden Gnome]

I doubt Martin is the poisoner a lot more than I doubted it on Day 5. I don't have a mechanical reason to say he isn't mafia.

That's how it should be. I mean, not considering other slots/factors, I am more likely to be mafia for what I've done than I am poisoner. Two day phases ago I think the running theory was that I could be mafia healer. As much as they were wrong, I didn't find issues with those arguing that. It was fairly conceivable.

But lately more and more people with more frequent suggestions of who I am have been pointing at poisoner. Which sounds not really plausible to me given the substantial risks I took (from a hypothetical 3P poisoner perspective). It also feeks a bit like "oh, well if he's unlikely to be mafia, then he HAS to be poisoner, right?". Which leads me to the conclusion that people are just finding me scummy in general (and not with much consideration for D3 overall) and maybe or maybe not want me to be a wolf of some sort simply for their solving's sake.

Did you claim the heal on GG and I missed it or no

Nope.

I've been a 1-shot healer since claiming it SoD3. I have no clue as to what mechanic saved Gnome.

I'm rather doubtful that it's another healer. That would make 3 healers in the game (2 town, 1 mafia) which sounds odd and the hypothetical mafia-healer could've just joined in with the claims at some point.

could it have been fake poison? Weird but definitely possible.

[Allcrab]

What was the rationale for watching me, Allcrab?

considering me explaining my rational yesterday I thought they'd switch it up and go after a villager.

My rationale keeps being right but I keep picking the wrong target lol.

@MacDougall do you see what I see

hmmm yeh

Please cut the shit with this ominous ooloolooing and say what you're saying -- both of you. It's Day 6.

Allcrab implies here that he knows the poisoner’s target despite the fact that this information is not available in thread nor had it even been particularly speculated on.

lol

[Allcrab]

inb4 alison claims the heal and they're somehow a redirector, a vote manipulator and a healer.

[Garden Gnome]

inb4 alison claims the heal and they're somehow a redirector, a vote manipulator and a healer.

that's a really bizarre form of JOAT.

[MartinGG99]

I doubt Martin is the poisoner a lot more than I doubted it on Day 5. I don't have a mechanical reason to say he isn't mafia.

That's how it should be. I mean, not considering other slots/factors, I am more likely to be mafia for what I've done than I am poisoner. Two day phases ago I think the running theory was that I could be mafia healer. As much as they were wrong, I didn't find issues with those arguing that. It was fairly conceivable.

But lately more and more people with more frequent suggestions of who I am have been pointing at poisoner. Which sounds not really plausible to me given the substantial risks I took (from a hypothetical 3P poisoner perspective). It also feeks a bit like "oh, well if he's unlikely to be mafia, then he HAS to be poisoner, right?". Which leads me to the conclusion that people are just finding me scummy in general (and not with much consideration for D3 overall) and maybe or maybe not want me to be a wolf of some sort simply for their solving's sake.

Did you claim the heal on GG and I missed it or no

Nope.

I've been a 1-shot healer since claiming it SoD3. I have no clue as to what mechanic saved Gnome.

I'm rather doubtful that it's another healer. That would make 3 healers in the game (2 town, 1 mafia) which sounds odd and the hypothetical mafia-healer could've just joined in with the claims at some point.

could it have been fake poison? Weird but definitely possible.

It can be possible, like many things can be possible. But I don't think its plausible.

It's like entertaining if I am poisoner. "Weird, but possible". But not really plausible.

It would suggest that poisoner intentionally gave up effectively a night-kill at a time where they may very much need it with the PoE getting smaller and smaller with each day. It also in general feels weird to fake-poison anyone here.