Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]

[Garden Gnome]

First instinct of the day is that one mafia and one poisoner are contained within [Mac, Martin, Alison], and Allcrab is a wild card.

That sounds about right.
Oh, and you were not the target of any actions last night.

I'm confused.

This isn't true because I targeted jay but they weren't targeted by anything else so ???

No, it wsn't true.
I got the notice after I posted!!!!!

[lost monkey]

Who saved gnome?

[Allcrab]

nvm lol

[JaggedJimmyJay]

What was the rationale for watching me, Allcrab?

[Allcrab]

well I'm confirmed then for anyone who still didn't believe me lol.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

The fact that I am not poisoned speaks well for Allcrab. Being investigative doesn't preclude being mafia.

[Allcrab]

What was the rationale for watching me, Allcrab?

considering me explaining my rational yesterday I thought they'd switch it up and go after a villager.

My rationale keeps being right but I keep picking the wrong target lol.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I shouldn't discount TangyStarkPrime as a poisoner prospect. On the poisoner side they can take Allcrab's spot as a wild card.

[Esooa]

I think all crabs posts yesterday were okay. There's a chance Martin is the poisoner/mafia has knowledge indicating he is which would be why made pushed him like that (and would mean allcrab is much more likely mafia) but yeah

Do you have a reason for tunneling me besides one post?

do you have a reason to have not read my post before replying to it

[lost monkey]

Leaning towards Alison being scum rather than Mac. I will vote Mac though if he doesn't claim.

[Allcrab]

I think all crabs posts yesterday were okay. There's a chance Martin is the poisoner/mafia has knowledge indicating he is which would be why made pushed him like that (and would mean allcrab is much more likely mafia) but yeah

Do you have a reason for tunneling me besides one post?

do you have a reason to have not read my post before replying to it

Gonna take that as a no.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Leaning towards Alison being scum rather than Mac. I will vote Mac though if he doesn't claim.

Mac's lack of a claim has me leaning poisoner. Either way though I agree it's a problem.

[lost monkey]

I shouldn't discount TangyStarkPrime as a poisoner prospect. On the poisoner side they can take Allcrab's spot as a wild card.

Definitely syndicate, most probably tsp.

[lost monkey]

Leaning towards Alison being scum rather than Mac. I will vote Mac though if he doesn't claim.

Mac's lack of a claim has me leaning poisoner. Either way though I agree it's a problem.

If it's really Alison I would feel bad for the scum team.

[lost monkey]

Leaning towards Alison being scum rather than Mac. I will vote Mac though if he doesn't claim.

Mac's lack of a claim has me leaning poisoner. Either way though I agree it's a problem.

If it's really Alison I would feel bad for the scum team.

As scum I mean.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Mafia prospects: Mac, Martin, Alison, Allcrab

Poisoner prospects: Tony, Mac, Martin

Someone yell at me if I am missing a player. It's hard to keep the two sides straight. I'll try to order them...

Maf - Mac = Alison > Martin > Allcrab

Poison - Mac > Tony > Martin

[Esooa]

Mafia prospects: Mac, Martin, Alison, Allcrab

Poisoner prospects: Tony, Mac, Martin

Someone yell at me if I am missing a player. It's hard to keep the two sides straight. I'll try to order them...

Maf - Mac = Alison > Martin > Allcrab

Poison - Mac > Tony > Martin

big doubt on Martin being mafia

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Leaning towards Alison being scum rather than Mac. I will vote Mac though if he doesn't claim.

Mac's lack of a claim has me leaning poisoner. Either way though I agree it's a problem.

If it's really Alison I would feel bad for the scum team.

Hellbussing has consequences.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Mafia prospects: Mac, Martin, Alison, Allcrab

Poisoner prospects: Tony, Mac, Martin

Someone yell at me if I am missing a player. It's hard to keep the two sides straight. I'll try to order them...

Maf - Mac = Alison > Martin > Allcrab

Poison - Mac > Tony > Martin

big doubt on Martin being mafia

Gonna wait on this until he speaks.

[Esooa]

just based on the premise "one of alison/Mac is a mafia who bussed hard," Alison is the much more likely mafia

[JaggedJimmyJay]

It's pretty easy to conceive of a believable narrative for either of them, so it's a debate where my answer would tend to be "yes".

[lost monkey]

Leaning towards Alison being scum rather than Mac. I will vote Mac though if he doesn't claim.

Mac's lack of a claim has me leaning poisoner. Either way though I agree it's a problem.

If it's really Alison I would feel bad for the scum team.

Hellbussing has consequences.

Yeah but even then this level of Hellbussing I am seeing for the first time.

[lost monkey]

If Alison or Mac are scum, guillo should be given props for calling both out on d2 especially Alison.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Martin’s town

[TonyStarkPrime]

I... think?

[TonyStarkPrime]

Do we know how many wolves we have left

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If Alison or Mac are scum, guillo should be given props for calling both out on d2 especially Alison.

Certainly. Both he and Gavial were treated like clowns in this game, and I hope it doesn't happen in the future -- especially if they turn out correct on key reads.

[lost monkey]

Do we know how many wolves we have left

One probably and one poisoner.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Do we know how many wolves we have left

1 or I riot

6 with two anti-town third parties or a mafia poisoner would be too much to ask.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I doubt Martin is the poisoner a lot more than I doubted it on Day 5. I don't have a mechanical reason to say he isn't mafia.

[lost monkey]

If Alison or Mac are scum, guillo should be given props for calling both out on d2 especially Alison.

Certainly. Both he and Gavial were treated like clowns in this game, and I hope it doesn't happen in the future -- especially if they turn out correct on key reads.

When was gavial treated like that? I thought the only thing we talked about is that we thought he might die together with you.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If Alison or Mac are scum, guillo should be given props for calling both out on d2 especially Alison.

Certainly. Both he and Gavial were treated like clowns in this game, and I hope it doesn't happen in the future -- especially if they turn out correct on key reads.

When was gavial treated like that? I thought the only thing we talked about is that we thought he might die together with you.

Early in the game when he was around he got his share of it. If town can finish this game with a win I am giving him a ton of the credit for any good things I was able to contribute to it. If he had just decided to be stubborn with me I'd have been dead a long time ago.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I don't know that I would prioritize either mafia or poisoner today. Getting rid of one or the other removes a kill from the game, and it's conceivable they can both kill each other. For that reason my initial voting interest lies with Mac -- he's a good candidate to be either one. I am going to let the day develop a bit before I start spamming out calls for a wagon though or even placing my own vote. Level heads prevail.

[lost monkey]

If Alison or Mac are scum, guillo should be given props for calling both out on d2 especially Alison.

Certainly. Both he and Gavial were treated like clowns in this game, and I hope it doesn't happen in the future -- especially if they turn out correct on key reads.

When was gavial treated like that? I thought the only thing we talked about is that we thought he might die together with you.

Early in the game when he was around he got his share of it. If town can finish this game with a win I am giving him a ton of the credit for any good things I was able to contribute to it. If he had just decided to be stubborn with me I'd have been dead a long time ago.

Lol if they would have put me with you, we both would have died lol. After everything that has happened, the d1 negative impression I got still doesn't let me give you a town read lol.

[lost monkey]

I don't know that I would prioritize either mafia or poisoner today. Getting rid of one or the other removes a kill from the game, and it's conceivable they can both kill each other. For that reason my initial voting interest lies with Mac -- he's a good candidate to be either one. I am going to let the day develop a bit before I start spamming out calls for a wagon though or even placing my own vote. Level heads prevail.

If poisoner can win with town, they should just claim.

[Garden Gnome]

I don't know that I would prioritize either mafia or poisoner today. Getting rid of one or the other removes a kill from the game, and it's conceivable they can both kill each other. For that reason my initial voting interest lies with Mac -- he's a good candidate to be either one. I am going to let the day develop a bit before I start spamming out calls for a wagon though or even placing my own vote. Level heads prevail.

If poisoner can win with town, they should just claim.

for sure. Then we can go ahead and yeet mafia.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Gnome is my scary poison zombie boo, unresolved and unknown. I do have a suspicion that she was healed by mafia to keep a mischop option on the board they otherwise would have lost to poison -- also would be why they don't kill me (us) apart from Nanook just being a sensible kill in his own right. Also possible Gnome herself is mafia -- we may need to rely on some faith reads here. It's comforting that Made was mafia so we don't [likely] have to contend with worrisome pairs anymore (e.g. Alison/Martin or Allcrab/Gnome). Allcrab's town read on Gnome looms large in this way.

[Garden Gnome]

Gnome is my scary poison zombie boo, unresolved and unknown. I do have a suspicion that she was healed by mafia to keep a mischop option on the board they otherwise would have lost to poison -- also would be why they don't kill me (us) apart from Nanook just being a sensible kill in his own right. Also possible Gnome herself is mafia -- we may need to rely on some faith reads here. It's comforting that Made was mafia so we don't [likely] have to contend with worrisome pairs anymore (e.g. Alison/Martin or Allcrab/Gnome). Allcrab's town read on Gnome looms large in this way.

There is a lot of good stuff here from the love of my life.
There's some skepticism and a bit of suspicion, which isn't a surprise. How well do you really know your true love?
And there's also agreement with me that the healing was done by mafia, to keep me as a potential mischop since I was in pretty much everyone's PoE.
Of course, I could just be a cat. I've now used up two of my lives, and I have seven to go.
In that case, I am a town cat.
We need to figure out who would have poisoned me, and who would have saved me if the saving was actually done by mafia.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

One thing I think was suggested earlier, and it occurs to me that it demands correction:

Gnome and I were unknown lovers to one another when the game began. Our mutual activations are day abilities which then resolve during night phases if we both activate. This means that when we meet and are activated lovers, Gnome knows exactly who I am -- if she is mafia, there's no risk of accidentally shooting a town lover and killing Gnome too. She knows it's me.

This doesn't make much difference to me with respect to my read on Gnome, but it should be stated.

[MacDougall]

I think it's pretty obvious I am not mafia if you use your brains.

[VOTE: Martin] aubergine

[MacDougall]

Is it plausible we still have two mafia to catch here?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I think it's pretty obvious I am not mafia if you use your brains.

[VOTE: Martin] aubergine

Maybe. I'm waiting for a thing.

[Garden Gnome]

Is it plausible we still have two mafia to catch here?

Anything is possible in a closed setup.
I really don't have a clue.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Is it plausible we still have two mafia to catch here?

I'd call it "plausible" in that I am not one of the hosts and didn't design the game. I don't think it should have two more, and I'd guess it doesn't.

[MacDougall]

I am a muse. I target someone every night and it guarantees they get to use their ability (roleblock prevention).

N1 Idled.
N2 I targeted Tangrowth.
N3 Idled.
N4 I targeted Jay.
N5 I intentionally holstered.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I am a muse. I target someone every night and it guarantees they get to use their ability (roleblock prevention).

N1 Idled.
N2 I targeted Tangrowth.
N3 Idled.
N4 I targeted Jay.
N5 I intentionally holstered.

Why does this "sound bad"?

Why idle?

[MacDougall]

I am a muse. I target someone every night and it guarantees they get to use their ability (roleblock prevention).

N1 Idled.
N2 I targeted Tangrowth.
N3 Idled.
N4 I targeted Jay.
N5 I intentionally holstered.

Why does this "sound bad"?

Why idle?

I forgot to use my role twice.

[MacDougall]

Last night I intentionally holstered because I was hoping Allcrab would watch the killer and clear me for not being involved.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I forgot to use my role twice.

How does that happen to someone on their way to 1,000 posts?

Why did you think that role would make you look bad?

[MacDougall]

I forgot to use my role twice.

How does that happen to someone on their way to 1,000 posts?

Why did you think that role would make you look bad?

Phases are in shitty time zones for me. I intended to submit both times but time just got away from me.

It wasn't just the role it was the fact I idled. The role is quite whatever. I also was still thinking we might lose to anti claim up to a point.