The Fall of Númenor - Game Over!

[Creature]

I’m sus of anyone who has this many town reads on d1 but ig I admire the confidence.

I think town has more incentive to gather that many townreads while wolves tend to leave things as open as possible as long as possible.

Kinda disagree you and Kami are wolves here. I think Gavial and NANOOK are most likely to be wolves here, but I'm still a bit unsure.

[Kami]

its easier to catch people slip day 1 or be wolfy in general than to indentify town, so no having so many reads kindaindicates they aren't real reads tbh

[Syn]

unfortunately idc about ur opinion on meta

that's okay, you can die

[Kami]

unfortunately idc about ur opinion on meta

that's okay, you can die

unfortunately idc about ur opinion on me dying

[Gavial]

Time for me to go over everyone:

Syn - Starts out with a WimL push. Claims they are willing to hammer any wagon then tells someone to hammer WimL. I’m assuming WimL is just a placeholder, from what I can tell from HK’s question Is that Syn has reads on Falcon or Deli but hasn’t mentioned them until that point.

Mac Dongull - Comes in first thing with the sheep vote, boy what a play!
Smacks em up next with that double deal town read.
Retracts that baby into the triple!
I question that guy about having those triples in mind for later and this boy hits me up with the “bad memory” excuse. Prob Town.

Hollowkat - Starts with the good ol’ locka town on the “first” poster.
In responses pops stuff up with some quick early reads!
Wants to be pocketed by Syn.
I really like HK’s readslist. Not the reads itself because it’s wrong but that is definitely the way to go about this kinda game!

Creature -
Complains about post restriction and town reads Falcon. Thinks they could wolf read Nanook according to their response towards Hollowcat. :/.
Votes me because I “disappeared”.
Throws us 5 town reads although I don’t think they ever mentioned Deli before this.
I want to say that despite this not looking so great, probably just town playing it in a different approach.

WimL -
I like the 2 in one combo! Entrance + Reaction post.
Doesn’t really show signs of survival as told Syn straight up they wouldn’t be mad if WimL got hammered.
Calls my entrance post bad but has good justification for it. I’m just trying to go try hard this game though in my defence.
Gives Falcon a Town Lean and puts Esooa/Deli Town. I like how they are going about these early reads ignoring the fact they are susing + voting me.

Marmot - Very Active

Falcon -
Doesn’t like being third and wishes for more is what I’m getting from his entrance post.
Claims to Nanook he is town which from what I remember in a previous town game of his probably means he is town.
Has an issue with 5 town reads at once.
Well then he’s probably not going to like this post lol.

Deli -
Ah the good ol “I’m Nub on this site” approach.
Claims WimI spews himself later on in the game which is notable.
Other then that I don’t really notice much else except maybe the joke post regarding Kami with HK’s readslist.
Prob Nub town if I had to take a shot in the dark.

Kami -
Comes straight in with the Nanook vote.
Also calls me a wolf, not surprising as I’m usually a Willager.
Nothing real else to note.

Ignoramus - Scum Reads me for “GTH Spamming Posts” and my bluff or not bluff post. Not to mention using HK’s reads to add in my name on HK’s list that wasn’t present in HK’s list. Other then that the only things of his that stand out to me is maybe the Town read on Nanook and Gut Scum Read on Falcon.

Nanook - Being Nanook

Esooa - Most notable thing is that push and interaction they had with Falcon

Here’s my solve:

GTH Top 7 Town:
Mac Dongull, Falcon, Hollowcat, WimL, Creature and Deli
6-Man PoE Scum Pool:
Syn, Ignoramus, Kami, Marmot, Esooa and Nanook because leftover.

[Gavial]

Let’s try this.
[VOTE: Syn] aubergine

[Syn]

okay NOW gavial's being scummy

too coherent for d1

plus a wall

[Kami]

Summarizing what happened in the thread with minimal original thought is a really interesting tactic to look game solvey

[falcon45ca]

okay NOW gavial's being scummy

too coherent for d1

plus a wall

Truth

[Gavial]

okay NOW gavial's being scummy

too coherent for d1

plus a wall

Lol more like:

okay NOW gavial's being scummy

too try hard for d1

he voted me out of all people after that wall post!

[hollowkatt]

town
creature
wiml
esooa
falcon
mac
nanook
igno
syn



wolf
gavial
deli
kami

not posting
marmot

How do you unironically town read the two obvious wolfs and then wolf read the two obvious town
kinda cringe

Don't like my reads, chop me

[hollowkatt]

>be lock town
>be at the bottom of HK's town list

feels bad man

order is unimportant. what is important is you're town, so take that to heart and go find me a wolf to kill that isn't Wiml

falcon and deli

you're welcome

I'm already on deli for their incredibly weak defense of wiml in the face of what is clearly an RVS wagon

[Syn]

okay NOW gavial's being scummy

too coherent for d1

plus a wall

Lol more like:

okay NOW gavial's being scummy

too try hard for d1

he voted me out of all people after that wall post!

definitely ruled by the omgus you caught me

[hollowkatt]

town
creature
wiml
esooa
falcon
mac
nanook
igno
syn



wolf
gavial
deli
kami

not posting
marmot

How do you unironically town read the two obvious wolfs and then wolf read the two obvious town
kinda cringe

Oof we’re caught, let’s just concede Kami

I’m sus of anyone who has this many town reads on d1 but ig I admire the confidence.

The only clear villa I have is Ignoramus

honestly tho that gavial person was wolfy too so i could see hallowcat making him the 1 wolf in her wolf list as w/w

it's hollowkatt. two o's, two l's, two t's
It's important to me to get others names right, please make it important to get mine. Not like it's not all over the thread anyways.
Thanks

[Deli]

>be lock town
>be at the bottom of HK's town list

feels bad man

order is unimportant. what is important is you're town, so take that to heart and go find me a wolf to kill that isn't Wiml

falcon and deli

you're welcome

I'm already on deli for their incredibly weak defense of wiml in the face of what is clearly an RVS wagon

What is RVS? Idk that I was defending wiml, more stating my meta with him which is that he is a great town player I would not like dead on d1

[Syn]

town
creature
wiml
esooa
falcon
mac
nanook
igno
syn



wolf
gavial
deli
kami

not posting
marmot

How do you unironically town read the two obvious wolfs and then wolf read the two obvious town
kinda cringe

Oof we’re caught, let’s just concede Kami

I’m sus of anyone who has this many town reads on d1 but ig I admire the confidence.

The only clear villa I have is Ignoramus

honestly tho that gavial person was wolfy too so i could see hallowcat making him the 1 wolf in her wolf list as w/w

it's hollowkatt. two o's, two l's, two t's
It's important to me to get others names right, please make it important to get mine. Not like it's not all over the thread anyways.
Thanks

whatever u say howocaht

[Kami]

Hallowolf?

[hollowkatt]

>be lock town
>be at the bottom of HK's town list

feels bad man

order is unimportant. what is important is you're town, so take that to heart and go find me a wolf to kill that isn't Wiml

falcon and deli

you're welcome

I'm already on deli for their incredibly weak defense of wiml in the face of what is clearly an RVS wagon

What is RVS? Idk that I was defending wiml, more stating my meta with him which is that he is a great town player I would not like dead on d1

random
voting
stage

meta is bad, stop using it. The reason it's suspect is because Syn naked voted wiml as the first post of the game, someone else joined the wagon, THEN you made your post saying you expect him to clear himself with time and that you wouldn't vote him D1.
Why does it matter to you that you wouldn't chop wiml D1, how is that relevant in the face of what is clearly voting at random to have something to talk about, and if you do think wiml can clear himself do you think people voting for him are town or wolf?

[hollowkatt]

town
creature
wiml
esooa
falcon
mac
nanook
igno
syn



wolf
gavial
deli
kami

not posting
marmot

How do you unironically town read the two obvious wolfs and then wolf read the two obvious town
kinda cringe

Oof we’re caught, let’s just concede Kami

I’m sus of anyone who has this many town reads on d1 but ig I admire the confidence.

The only clear villa I have is Ignoramus

honestly tho that gavial person was wolfy too so i could see hallowcat making him the 1 wolf in her wolf list as w/w

it's hollowkatt. two o's, two l's, two t's
It's important to me to get others names right, please make it important to get mine. Not like it's not all over the thread anyways.
Thanks

whatever u say howocaht

You can get away with that Syn...

Hallowolf?

You cannot Kami. People choose the names they have chosen for reasons, please respect the names and try to get them right? Like this isn't a big ask, is it?

[Esooa]

falcon is so mafia

[Esooa]

Kami is a bitch

[Kami]

Kami is a bitch

is this a SOUL read

[Esooa]

yes and it's 100% accurate

[falcon45ca]

falcon is so mafia

What does the game look like to you if I'm town?



Oh and I am btw. Lock. It. In.

[Esooa]

falcon is so mafia

What does the game look like to you if I'm town?



Oh and I am btw. Lock. It. In.

it looks literally exactly the same except you'd be town

[Creature]

Aw man energy just went down (returned now) and this game looks weird. I wonder if I've been fooled somewhere as I'm struggling to tell who could be wolf.

Wished we didn't have that 50 post limit.

[ignoramus]

Good morning, folks!

I solemnly vow to hammer any wagon on any day

for the memes, you see

I volunteer as tribute!

It me, oof now I see why this kinda thing is annoying but it is towny of

Not vibing w/ Esooa and wiml pocket attempts— idk Esooa null for me rn I’m trying not to tunnel again >.<

Slow game is slow, idk this is tough for a spammer like me. When do things pick up??

About bolded: how? I don't get it
And with Esooa (Essooa? Esssoa? Idk I need to check again later), how and who is she pocketing? She's not as aggressive as I've seen from before but that's probably NAI
I'm 99.99% certain that we need flips before we can read her better

town
creature
wiml
esooa
falcon
mac
nanook
igno
syn



wolf
gavial
deli
kami

not posting
marmot

Jesus H Murphy



Town leans galore

Top towns if Falcon flips mafia: HK, Nanook

town
creature
wiml
esooa
falcon
mac
nanook
igno
syn



wolf
gavial
deli
kami

not posting
marmot

Jesus H Murphy



Town leans galore

I no longer deal in leans. the townies I read as town are just town, the wolves I read as wolves are just wolves

Oh shit.


Tell the host, looks like you cracked this game

Yeah I highly doubt this is w/w
I can't tell why but my brain is saying "nope not w/w"

town
creature
wiml
esooa
falcon
mac
nanook
igno
syn



wolf
gavial
deli
kami

not posting
marmot

How do you unironically town read the two obvious wolfs and then wolf read the two obvious town
kinda cringe

Oof we’re caught, let’s just concede Kami

I’m sus of anyone who has this many town reads on d1 but ig I admire the confidence.

The only clear villa I have is Ignoramus

What are your reasons for villa-reading me? If it's just that joke post of being tribute that's a big :sus:

Time for me to go over everyone:

Syn - Starts out with a WimL push. Claims they are willing to hammer any wagon then tells someone to hammer WimL. I’m assuming WimL is just a placeholder, from what I can tell from HK’s question Is that Syn has reads on Falcon or Deli but hasn’t mentioned them until that point.

Mac Dongull - Comes in first thing with the sheep vote, boy what a play!
Smacks em up next with that double deal town read.
Retracts that baby into the triple!
I question that guy about having those triples in mind for later and this boy hits me up with the “bad memory” excuse. Prob Town.

Hollowkat - Starts with the good ol’ locka town on the “first” poster.
In responses pops stuff up with some quick early reads!
Wants to be pocketed by Syn.
I really like HK’s readslist. Not the reads itself because it’s wrong but that is definitely the way to go about this kinda game!

Creature -
Complains about post restriction and town reads Falcon. Thinks they could wolf read Nanook according to their response towards Hollowcat. :/.
Votes me because I “disappeared”.
Throws us 5 town reads although I don’t think they ever mentioned Deli before this.
I want to say that despite this not looking so great, probably just town playing it in a different approach.

WimL -
I like the 2 in one combo! Entrance + Reaction post.
Doesn’t really show signs of survival as told Syn straight up they wouldn’t be mad if WimL got hammered.
Calls my entrance post bad but has good justification for it. I’m just trying to go try hard this game though in my defence.
Gives Falcon a Town Lean and puts Esooa/Deli Town. I like how they are going about these early reads ignoring the fact they are susing + voting me.

Marmot - Very Active

Falcon -
Doesn’t like being third and wishes for more is what I’m getting from his entrance post.
Claims to Nanook he is town which from what I remember in a previous town game of his probably means he is town.
Has an issue with 5 town reads at once.
Well then he’s probably not going to like this post lol.

Deli -
Ah the good ol “I’m Nub on this site” approach.
Claims WimI spews himself later on in the game which is notable.
Other then that I don’t really notice much else except maybe the joke post regarding Kami with HK’s readslist.
Prob Nub town if I had to take a shot in the dark.

Kami -
Comes straight in with the Nanook vote.
Also calls me a wolf, not surprising as I’m usually a Willager.
Nothing real else to note.

Ignoramus - Scum Reads me for “GTH Spamming Posts” and my bluff or not bluff post. Not to mention using HK’s reads to add in my name on HK’s list that wasn’t present in HK’s list. Other then that the only things of his that stand out to me is maybe the Town read on Nanook and Gut Scum Read on Falcon.

Nanook - Being Nanook

Esooa - Most notable thing is that push and interaction they had with Falcon

Here’s my solve:

GTH Top 7 Town:
Mac Dongull, Falcon, Hollowcat, WimL, Creature and Deli
6-Man PoE Scum Pool:
Syn, Ignoramus, Kami, Marmot, Esooa and Nanook because leftover.

1. She/they today, please (I'll update if it changes)
2. Me using HK's post was a way of showing who I was currently town and wolf-reading and to see how much I agreed with him. I personally consider him as town whose reads just don't agree with mine
3. What's with the hedge? It's like you're trying to find something to be interested/wary about (referring to you saying "in thing that stands out is maybe town read on Nanook and wolf read in Falcon.")
And like other people noticed, this is more of a narration of events, not reads

[Esooa]

Aw man energy just went down (returned now) and this game looks weird. I wonder if I've been fooled somewhere as I'm struggling to tell who could be wolf.

Wished we didn't have that 50 post limit.

why do you townread Nanook/Falcon/Syn

Falcon is probably mafia and the others are pretty null imo

[Esooa]

Oh, wait, you wolf read Nanook. That's fine ig but I'd still say he's null. I think Gavial is scummy but I'd like to see some more of his scum games before saying that. Uhhh, Kami is whatever, Deli is pretty towny, Igno is towny

[Deli]

>be lock town
>be at the bottom of HK's town list

feels bad man

order is unimportant. what is important is you're town, so take that to heart and go find me a wolf to kill that isn't Wiml

falcon and deli

you're welcome

I'm already on deli for their incredibly weak defense of wiml in the face of what is clearly an RVS wagon

What is RVS? Idk that I was defending wiml, more stating my meta with him which is that he is a great town player I would not like dead on d1

random
voting
stage

meta is bad, stop using it. The reason it's suspect is because Syn naked voted wiml as the first post of the game, someone else joined the wagon, THEN you made your post saying you expect him to clear himself with time and that you wouldn't vote him D1.
Why does it matter to you that you wouldn't chop wiml D1, how is that relevant in the face of what is clearly voting at random to have something to talk about, and if you do think wiml can clear himself do you think people voting for him are town or wolf?

Ok mom, what are you? The werewolf police? I can use meta how and when I choose to. You think I launched some massive defense when I added my only thoughts on a slow thread with little substance to deal with. Am I NOT supposed to talk about the directions I want to go and not go for lunches or are we playing ww and that’s the whole point??

If I had a formed opinion on the alignment of the people voting him, I would have said so, but I didn’t and don’t because like you said it was “obvious RVS” and I don’t read into votes until I know the alignment of someone in the mix. You don’t need to be rude, and just because you feel something is obvious doesn’t mean it is obvious to everyone, I don’t randomly vote, I vote when I have a read I think my thoughts are relevant but if you don’t, kindly ignore me.

[falcon45ca]

falcon is so mafia

What does the game look like to you if I'm town?



Oh and I am btw. Lock. It. In.

it looks literally exactly the same except you'd be town

That's pretty weak.


I'm not sure if you're scum or just bad at reading me. I'll let ya know when I figure it out

[Esooa]

falcon is so mafia

What does the game look like to you if I'm town?



Oh and I am btw. Lock. It. In.

it looks literally exactly the same except you'd be town

That's pretty weak.


I'm not sure if you're scum or just bad at reading me. I'll let ya know when I figure it out

I'm neither. You haven't called a single person mafia. In 1984 you were so eager to call people mafia you called two people mafia and together immediately in a game with at most 1 mafia. You point out things you don't like but you don't say they're mafia for it. You're reserved to the point you're sheeping HK. Your focus is primarily on my read on you

[Syn]

Kami is a bitch

lmao

[Deli]

About bolded: how? I don't get it
And with Esooa (Essooa? Esssoa? Idk I need to check again later), how and who is she pocketing? She's not as aggressive as I've seen from before but that's probably NAI
I'm 99.99% certain that we need flips before we can read her better

it seems to brazen for a wolf to do and for another reason I'd rather not say until later. TWTBAW imo, but maybe someone knows whether you can do that. I commented on it because it's verbatim something I said in the recent game on MU as town, and people were annoyed by it-- I now see why...for reasons.. wiml probably understands..

idk Esooa is being nice to me which feels pockety for her prickly personality. Given I've read her right 1/2 times we've played, I am trying to take more time to read her :thumb:

What are your reasons for villa-reading me? If it's just that joke post of being tribute that's a big :sus:

for volunteering to be the lunch . see above. you're playing exactly like I play, atleast you were before all these big quote posts lol if you're saying this is how you play as a wolf, I'm happy to unclear you. Entirely possible it was a joke and not part of the strat and I'm being silly, best not to discuss it further.

[falcon45ca]

falcon is so mafia

What does the game look like to you if I'm town?



Oh and I am btw. Lock. It. In.

it looks literally exactly the same except you'd be town

That's pretty weak.


I'm not sure if you're scum or just bad at reading me. I'll let ya know when I figure it out

I'm neither. You haven't called a single person mafia. In 1984 you were so eager to call people mafia you called two people mafia and together immediately in a game with at most 1 mafia. You point out things you don't like but you don't say they're mafia for it. You're reserved to the point you're sheeping HK. Your focus is primarily on my read on you

I don't disagree with you actually. I am town tho, it's a bit of Mafia fatigue taking away my zest.


I will flip green, so I'll either find my game or I'll get mislynched.


If I'm calling out players/posts I don't like, then I do feel you are being a bit nitpicky that I'm not calling them Maf at the same time.

[Esooa]

@falcon45ca if you can link previous scum games I'll read them

Honestly I don't even know how to find previous games on this site

[hollowkatt]

>be lock town
>be at the bottom of HK's town list

feels bad man

order is unimportant. what is important is you're town, so take that to heart and go find me a wolf to kill that isn't Wiml

falcon and deli

you're welcome

I'm already on deli for their incredibly weak defense of wiml in the face of what is clearly an RVS wagon

What is RVS? Idk that I was defending wiml, more stating my meta with him which is that he is a great town player I would not like dead on d1

random
voting
stage

meta is bad, stop using it. The reason it's suspect is because Syn naked voted wiml as the first post of the game, someone else joined the wagon, THEN you made your post saying you expect him to clear himself with time and that you wouldn't vote him D1.
Why does it matter to you that you wouldn't chop wiml D1, how is that relevant in the face of what is clearly voting at random to have something to talk about, and if you do think wiml can clear himself do you think people voting for him are town or wolf?

Ok mom, what are you? The werewolf police? I can use meta how and when I choose to. You think I launched some massive defense when I added my only thoughts on a slow thread with little substance to deal with. Am I NOT supposed to talk about the directions I want to go and not go for lunches or are we playing ww and that’s the whole point??

If I had a formed opinion on the alignment of the people voting him, I would have said so, but I didn’t and don’t because like you said it was “obvious RVS” and I don’t read into votes until I know the alignment of someone in the mix. You don’t need to be rude, and just because you feel something is obvious doesn’t mean it is obvious to everyone, I don’t randomly vote, I vote when I have a read I think my thoughts are relevant but if you don’t, kindly ignore me.

[falcon45ca]

@falcon45ca if you can link previous scum games I'll read them

Honestly I don't even know how to find previous games on this site

Elder Scrolls game just wrapped up, it's still in the current games section.

[Deli]

Lmao calling it now, w!hollowkatt thought she’d go for a lhf newbie push today


Anyway— I’m out for a bit, I wanna make sure I have a decent amount of posts left for eod. Wish there was a post counter posting or something

[Kami]

deli lock village

[ignoramus]

About bolded: how? I don't get it
And with Esooa (Essooa? Esssoa? Idk I need to check again later), how and who is she pocketing? She's not as aggressive as I've seen from before but that's probably NAI
I'm 99.99% certain that we need flips before we can read her better

it seems to brazen for a wolf to do and for another reason I'd rather not say until later. TWTBAW imo, but maybe someone knows whether you can do that. I commented on it because it's verbatim something I said in the recent game on MU as town, and people were annoyed by it-- I now see why...for reasons.. wiml probably understands..

idk Esooa is being nice to me which feels pockety for her prickly personality. Given I've read her right 1/2 times we've played, I am trying to take more time to read her :thumb:

What are your reasons for villa-reading me? If it's just that joke post of being tribute that's a big :sus:

for volunteering to be the lunch . see above. you're playing exactly like I play, atleast you were before all these big quote posts lol if you're saying this is how you play as a wolf, I'm happy to unclear you. Entirely possible it was a joke and not part of the strat and I'm being silly, best not to discuss it further.

For me, I think it might be Esooa like
Being tired or something
I haven't played with her in a while so I can't read her off of it alone
I consider her light town rn because idk
Might be my brain subconsciously wanting to town-read her but /shrug

[hollowkatt]

Lmao calling it now, w!hollowkatt thought she’d go for a lhf newbie push today


Anyway— I’m out for a bit, I wanna make sure I have a decent amount of posts left for eod. Wish there was a post counter posting or something

Deli, Deli, Deli. It's simple. Elementary, even. If you open your heart, your mind, nay - your very soul, the truth will come to you. Philosophers debated this question in the great forums of Athens, but even they were too closed-minded to understand the truth. The greatest thinkers of the modern era have grappled with this question. Hobbes, Locke, Descartes, Nietzche, Einstein, Watterson - all have buckled under the weight of the intellectual burden, because they too did not understand the truth.

My villager alignment is not something you learn - it's something you already know.

[Gavial]

Ignormous calls me Hedgy
He also said I TR Nanook and SR Falcon despite that not really adding up to my solve.

[Syn]

Ignormous calls me Hedgy
He also said I TR Nanook and SR Falcon despite that not really adding up to my solve.

she/they, not he

[Gavial]

falcon is so mafia

Yet clearly people don’t feel as strongly as you do.


Also, who would you VETO today if you had a choice. (Like someone who is usually mistakenly misread)

[Gavial]

Ignormous calls me Hedgy
He also said I TR Nanook and SR Falcon despite that not really adding up to my solve.

she/they, not he

Aw crap my bad, force of habit.

But what do you think of them so far?

[Gavial]

Summarizing what happened in the thread with minimal original thought is a really interesting tactic to look game solvey

Thanks!
I put my heart and soul into that post!
Trying to do what I kind to be try hard with that 50 Cap standing in my way!

[Esooa]

falcon is so mafia

Yet clearly people don’t feel as strongly as you do.


Also, who would you VETO today if you had a choice. (Like someone who is usually mistakenly misread)

deli

[Gavial]

falcon is so mafia

Yet clearly people don’t feel as strongly as you do.


Also, who would you VETO today if you had a choice. (Like someone who is usually mistakenly misread)

deli

Then it shall be done.

[Gavial]

I already nub null town read them anyway.
Uh, so is there anything else that you are suspicious of towards Falcon that you haven’t shared yet?