The Elder Scrolls [GAME OVER]

[Jackofhearts2005]

Flanders wagon gaining traction
I’ve no theory about his faction
As an aside about Timmy’s unwarranted shade,
My read on him is unrelated to other reads I’ve made

[Syn]

sheogorath sends his regards

[Timsup2nothin]

[Syn]

[VOTE: Qwags] aubergine

lol

[Long Con]

3 minutes and change left. What will happen??

[Kylemii]

marmot made a similar argument for my innocence in double elimination mafia where he was mafia and presumably trying to pocket me? after a long verbal deathmatch with moghedian over what i think was probably minutia. i was accused by mog of twisting his words and marmot came in and said that he didn't think i was capable of that?

i guess my question is @Marmot is this a thing you really believe? is there anecdotal evidence for it?

Obviously in that game I had TMI because I was scum, but I probably wouldn't have thought of it if I didn't think there was some semblance of truth to it.

Has this happened to you in a wolf game? If it has, I'll reconsider my stance.

i feel like it has but i don't know enough about myself to dispute it. i know i tend to tunnel on things that end up being minutia. i guess i don't remember for sure if i've replicated it as mafia but i think i'd be capable of it? i can't think of any specific examples

the crux of my concern here is that i think given our recentmost games i feel like you'd be more apprehensive about your ability to townread me, i.e. stardew. the ease at which you town read me in double elimination was actually one of the red flags i ignored there. what's different here? please tell me about your kyle-reading process

@Marmot and this

My Kyle-reading process is as follows. If Kyle is posting a bunch of OT content but mixing in some hot takes, he's town. If Kyle is not mixing in those hot takes, and either sheeping or just playing detached, he's mafia.

I don't think Stardew counts, because it was a hydra, and I think Nanook did the majority of the posting. But even if you did post a lot, it was OT content

For the record, the only strike I have against Kyle is that post, and I asked him about that post, and I am still contemplating in what world Kyle makes any self-meta reference that includes Stardew.

Part of my read of Kyle stems from some games of Among Us we played recently, where Kyle exhibited some clear anxiety when he randed imposter. I know that FM is different, but I'd gander that the detached nature is a result of that.

I agree, Stardew is a weird reference for self-meta. Iirc, Nanook posted strictly to pocket dunia, and Kyle posted uhhhh hardly at all. And you!!! Ok, done talking about that game.

stardew isn't a significant meta sample for me, i was more bringing it up because it was a game in which marmot/dunya used a meta read based on my (and nanook's) comfort level early on, and paid for it, in a way which i think would tint future read attempts, but maybe not.

[Scotty]

That Mac has these Flanders dead memes queued up is slightly disconcerting

[Marmot]

Any of these wagons not named Marmot is fine.

[Long Con]

Wow, now Flanders is going to go. What is his greatest sin?

[Kylemii]

flanders???

[MacDougall]

That Mac has these Flanders dead memes queued up is slightly disconcerting

[Syn]

flanders!!!

[Marmot]

Marmot is also fine, but in a different sense of the word.

[Marmot]

KZA

[Long Con]

ARE WE SURE THIS IS RIGHT? SHOULD WE ELIMINATE SOMEONE GENERALLY SLIMIER? DO WE WANT THESE OTHERS AROUND TOMORROW?

[Timsup2nothin]

Obviously in that game I had TMI because I was scum, but I probably wouldn't have thought of it if I didn't think there was some semblance of truth to it.

Has this happened to you in a wolf game? If it has, I'll reconsider my stance.

i feel like it has but i don't know enough about myself to dispute it. i know i tend to tunnel on things that end up being minutia. i guess i don't remember for sure if i've replicated it as mafia but i think i'd be capable of it? i can't think of any specific examples

the crux of my concern here is that i think given our recentmost games i feel like you'd be more apprehensive about your ability to townread me, i.e. stardew. the ease at which you town read me in double elimination was actually one of the red flags i ignored there. what's different here? please tell me about your kyle-reading process

@Marmot and this

My Kyle-reading process is as follows. If Kyle is posting a bunch of OT content but mixing in some hot takes, he's town. If Kyle is not mixing in those hot takes, and either sheeping or just playing detached, he's mafia.

I don't think Stardew counts, because it was a hydra, and I think Nanook did the majority of the posting. But even if you did post a lot, it was OT content

For the record, the only strike I have against Kyle is that post, and I asked him about that post, and I am still contemplating in what world Kyle makes any self-meta reference that includes Stardew.

Part of my read of Kyle stems from some games of Among Us we played recently, where Kyle exhibited some clear anxiety when he randed imposter. I know that FM is different, but I'd gander that the detached nature is a result of that.

I agree, Stardew is a weird reference for self-meta. Iirc, Nanook posted strictly to pocket dunia, and Kyle posted uhhhh hardly at all. And you!!! Ok, done talking about that game.

stardew isn't a significant meta sample for me, i was more bringing it up because it was a game in which marmot/dunya used a meta read based on my (and nanook's) comfort level early on, and paid for it, in a way which i think would tint future read attempts, but maybe not.

Noted...and understood...thanx for clarifying.

[MacDougall]

That Mac has these Flanders dead memes queued up is slightly disconcerting

[KZA]

well I'd rather kill Qwags than Flanders but I'm not tying it so GL GL

[Scotty]

well I'd rather kill Qwags than Flanders but I'm not tying it so GL GL

Same but this is exciting

[Long Con]

well I'd rather kill Qwags than Flanders but I'm not tying it so GL GL

I will switch if you want.

[MacDougall]

[KZA]

and I mean if Flanders is red then he has teammate potential with Qwags anyway as Gavial and Tim have pointed out so cool

[Long Con]

Ok, that's it then. Fingers crossed.

[Timsup2nothin]

ARE WE SURE THIS IS RIGHT? SHOULD WE ELIMINATE SOMEONE GENERALLY SLIMIER? DO WE WANT THESE OTHERS AROUND TOMORROW?

Flanders was in my hard would kill zone in my big reads list. So was Made.

[Scotty]

[VOTE: Qwags] aubergine

[Marmot]

Yeah ok, we heard you the first three times.

[MacDougall]

[Scotty]

I jumped again. I’m sorry

[Syn]

peeps be switching to Qwags and not announcing it

[Long Con]

Cool, Scotty.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Thread is locked. Please stand by.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Day 2





Qwags has been eliminated. He was the Bosmer Adventurer, and Hircine's Champion. The Artifact Cuirass of the Savior's Hide has been destroyed.

Spoiler: show

Bosmer Adventurer
Race: Bosmer
Alignment: Town
Available Shrines: Hircine
Hircine’s Champion. You must access Hircine’s Shrine every Night. On even-numbered Nights, you may target a player to learn a Shrine ability they have access to (determined at random by the host). On odd-numbered Nights you will go into hiding, making you untargetable to all regular night actions. You may still be targeted by Artifact abilities. Once during the game, you may perform a nightkill instead of your regular night action.
You wield the Artifact the Cuirass of the Savior’s Hide.
The wielder of the Cuirass of the Savior’s Hide is permanently immune to all non-lethal impediments such as roleblocks, vote manipulation, redirection, etc.. Ineffective against Mehrunes’ Razor.
The Artifact will remain in your possession as long you remain alive.
If you are nightkilled by Mehrunes’ Razor, the Artifact will be passed into the possession of the Mafia team.
If you die under any other circumstances, the Artifact will be destroyed except under certain circumstances under which it will pass into the possession of a Civilian, unbeknownst to you.

It is Night 2. You have 23 hours to submit your night actions. Please submit actions to both Sloonei and JaggedJimmyJay.
It is the hour of Dusk. The thread will remain open until 8:10 PM EST.

[KZA]

2/2 yeeting artifacts!

[KZA]

the fucking irony of Qwags having a vig shot

[MacDougall]

ho boy I'm gonna mop up some wolves from that end of day

[MacDougall]

Scotty looks like my ass pre-wipe.

Pretty sure Flanders was going to be a hit. He was howling every time he posted.

[KZA]

[MacDougall]

If there is a vigi plz shoot Flanders.

[Marmot]

Does everyone but me get an artifact?

[Long Con]

Does everyone but me get an artifact?

Nope.

[KZA]

I have the Volendrung thing. I didn't want to tie the vote because it would out me as having it and then the wolves would razor me.

[Timsup2nothin]

the fucking irony of Qwags having a vig shot

What are the chances Qwags recognized that his survival odds were low and used his vig shot N1? I'm thinking that would be a smart play on his part, and that maybe he shot Nanook...

[MacDougall]

Cop check TSP
Vigi Flanders
Obviously any doctors need to rand between Kza and Syn

[KZA]

the fucking irony of Qwags having a vig shot

What are the chances Qwags recognized that his survival odds were low and used his vig shot N1? I'm thinking that would be a smart play on his part, and that maybe he shot Nanook...

Not an unreasonable thought. All that would really tell us though is that the 3P wasn't a killer, at least last night.

[Long Con]

Cop check TSP
Vigi Flanders
Obviously any doctors need to rand between Kza and Syn

I have no issue with this outlook. I don't really know if Flanders is bad but it would keep us from having to sort him tomorrow.

[Syn]

I have the Volendrung thing. I didn't want to tie the vote because it would out me as having it and then the wolves would razor me.

this is a horrible thing to have outed

what the fuck KZA

[Scotty]

I’m bad at this game

[Timsup2nothin]

Cop check TSP
Vigi Flanders
Obviously any doctors need to rand between Kza and Syn

Which leaves you as a doc dodge target, so now that you can talk...what's your take on Made?

[Marmot]

That's disheartening. I've gotta run, hopefully catch ya'll tomorrow.

[Syn]

I have the Volendrung thing. I didn't want to tie the vote because it would out me as having it and then the wolves would razor me.

this is a horrible thing to have outed

what the fuck KZA

the Razor is in ADDITION to the NK