The Elder Scrolls [GAME OVER]

[DaisyCloud]

I didn't explicitly say i am putting my vote back on Seanzie but after my last post before eod, that is what I did. I should have kept my vote off. if you look at the first page of the game you see sloop posted a ss of vote poll for day 1.

lol sloop

oh. oop. it's a bit past 2am.







♡♡ sorry Sloonei. owo ♡♡

[Syn]

Also Nanook called me Town and died.
Since I am clearly the designated ML today I wouldn’t be surprised if one of Made/Mac is scum.

how does one observation connect to the other

@Gavial instead of taking Flanders's jokes completely seriously, can you respond to this

ALSO ALSO ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[Gavial]

3 out of 24 players flipped, one could go to Nocturnal

is that really indicative of "not many can go there" and also a reason why your life should be preserved so you specifically can go there?

Yeah so I can remove myself from PoE and remove a wolf so we don’t get clean sweeped by 5.

[Gavial]

Also Nanook called me Town and died.
Since I am clearly the designated ML today I wouldn’t be surprised if one of Made/Mac is scum.

how does one observation connect to the other

@Gavial instead of taking Flanders's jokes completely seriously, can you respond to this

ALSO ALSO ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I ignored that for a reason.

[TonyStarkPrime]

lol yall got post restrictions and I'm off the poll

What shrine gave you that? Did your role card tell you that outcome was available?

i chose chaos. i didn't even get a result and didn't notice until mac pointed it out.

[Syn]

3 out of 24 players flipped, one could go to Nocturnal

is that really indicative of "not many can go there" and also a reason why your life should be preserved so you specifically can go there?

Yeah so I can remove myself from PoE and remove a wolf so we don’t get clean sweeped by 5.

right...

and you are certain that you'll watch the NK... how?

[Syn]

Also Nanook called me Town and died.
Since I am clearly the designated ML today I wouldn’t be surprised if one of Made/Mac is scum.

how does one observation connect to the other

@Gavial instead of taking Flanders's jokes completely seriously, can you respond to this

ALSO ALSO ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I ignored that for a reason.

probably a bad reason

[TonyStarkPrime]

So we've got Kza, Syn and TSP essentially cleared.

I think it's possible Mac could be mafia and falsifying a restriction because he visited a shrine and saw a bunch of townies there. But thats some tinfoil so I'm gonna keep him in the town pile.
He line strikes BK, so, guess BK is tp.

Kza
Syn
TSP
Mac
BK

Tim could just be fooling me, but he feels towny. Same kinda goes for quin and Scotty. Both feel towny.

Falc is a bit of a puzzle rn. Maybe it's just I havent played with him for a while, but his style does feel different. Still gotta town side him for now.

Enrique
Long Con
Marmot
Occupy that awkward, uneasy null space

Jack and nachomamma scum leaning.

PoE

Kyle
Daisy
Monkey
Made
Gavial

Thats where I'm at.

nice another clear

[DaisyCloud]

wait how/when did Tim see those role cards

[TonyStarkPrime]

We caught him boys!
He claims mafia has mafia like abilities!
Vote Flanders!

incredible

[TonyStarkPrime]

wait how/when did Tim see those role cards

i saw at least one of them, they should be available at flips.

[Syn]

lol yall got post restrictions and I'm off the poll

What shrine gave you that? Did your role card tell you that outcome was available?

i chose chaos. i didn't even get a result and didn't notice until mac pointed it out.

minorly interesting that Mac chose a gif saying chaos and now you're saying chaos when the OP description of Sheogorath doesn't say that at all

[Syn]

wait how/when did Tim see those role cards

role cards are included with death flips

[DaisyCloud]

wait how/when did Tim see those role cards

i saw at least one of them, they should be available at flips.

wait, because we had 3 flips?

[TonyStarkPrime]

I don't know exactly what role cards you're talking about but yes

[Syn]

lol yall got post restrictions and I'm off the poll

What shrine gave you that? Did your role card tell you that outcome was available?

i chose chaos. i didn't even get a result and didn't notice until mac pointed it out.

minorly interesting that Mac chose a gif saying chaos and now you're saying chaos when the OP description of Sheogorath doesn't say that at all

searched the thread for "chaos" and I see that Alison's role card specified Sheogorath's shrine as being chaos

hmm

[DaisyCloud]

did Alison or Nanook post in day 1 if they knew or not about shrines or anything?

[Syn]

did Alison or Nanook post in day 1 if they knew or not about shrines or anything?

how would they know anything

[Syn]

lol yall got post restrictions and I'm off the poll

What shrine gave you that? Did your role card tell you that outcome was available?

i chose chaos. i didn't even get a result and didn't notice until mac pointed it out.

minorly interesting that Mac chose a gif saying chaos and now you're saying chaos when the OP description of Sheogorath doesn't say that at all

searched the thread for "chaos" and I see that Alison's role card specified Sheogorath's shrine as being chaos

hmm

ok guess this isn't interesting at all

[TonyStarkPrime]

lol yall got post restrictions and I'm off the poll

What shrine gave you that? Did your role card tell you that outcome was available?

i chose chaos. i didn't even get a result and didn't notice until mac pointed it out.

minorly interesting that Mac chose a gif saying chaos and now you're saying chaos when the OP description of Sheogorath doesn't say that at all

searched the thread for "chaos" and I see that Alison's role card specified Sheogorath's shrine as being chaos

hmm

so does nanook's and mine and presumably all of the ones that have access

[TonyStarkPrime]

no not interesting

[DaisyCloud]

iirc tim said he knew nothing and a few others I don't remember who said they had no idea too.

[TonyStarkPrime]

i assume they did because that info was contained in their role cards

[TonyStarkPrime]

as opposed to sean's whose card did not contain such info

[Timsup2nothin]

wait how/when did Tim see those role cards

There's been three flips. You can open the spoiler and read their role cards. Plus mine makes four.

[DaisyCloud]

did Alison or Nanook post in day 1 if they knew or not about shrines or anything?

how would they know anything

was my question not coherent?

[TonyStarkPrime]

not really but did you understand my answer daisy?

[Timsup2nothin]

lol yall got post restrictions and I'm off the poll

What shrine gave you that? Did your role card tell you that outcome was available?

i chose chaos. i didn't even get a result and didn't notice until mac pointed it out.

minorly interesting that Mac chose a gif saying chaos and now you're saying chaos when the OP description of Sheogorath doesn't say that at all

It is what the role cards that list the Sheogorath shrine say.

[Syn]

did Alison or Nanook post in day 1 if they knew or not about shrines or anything?

how would they know anything

was my question not coherent?

well, your question seems kind of silly

you're asking if two uninformed villagers had special information regarding shrines on D1 before any actions

[DaisyCloud]

wait how/when did Tim see those role cards

There's been three flips. You can open the spoiler and read their role cards. Plus mine makes four.

tim, iirc I remembered a concept you was having with a few others. it was speculation about shrines and stuff. and abilities? and the take away was some would know some would not know and those who didn't know ahead of time might have greater powers or something something. I know this was a conversation I read early in day 1.

[DaisyCloud]

conversation*

not concept.

[DaisyCloud]

did Alison or Nanook post in day 1 if they knew or not about shrines or anything?

how would they know anything

was my question not coherent?

well, your question seems kind of silly

you're asking if two uninformed villagers had special information regarding shrines on D1 before any actions

I think I explained my question better when replying to tim. hopefully he is better at deciphering what my last brain cell is trying to ask.

[DaisyCloud]

wait how/when did Tim see those role cards

There's been three flips. You can open the spoiler and read their role cards. Plus mine makes four.

tim, iirc I remembered a concept you was having with a few others. it was speculation about shrines and stuff. and abilities? and the take away was some would know some would not know and those who didn't know ahead of time might have greater powers or something something. I know this was a conversation I read early in day 1.

tim, do u remember this? and who was talking to you about it?

[Timsup2nothin]

did Alison or Nanook post in day 1 if they knew or not about shrines or anything?

how would they know anything

was my question not coherent?

well, your question seems kind of silly

you're asking if two uninformed villagers had special information regarding shrines on D1 before any actions

There was some back and forth on day one because some people (and Alison was included) could see on their own role cards that different shrines do different things for them, where other people do not have that on their cards...example, Seanzie. I was in that discussion because my role card actually makes no mention at all of what the shrines do, and apparently the shrines themselves do not do anything for me. I make money based on the number of people that visit the shrine I visit, and then I get to buy things...if I live long enough and make good choices, neither of which seems likely at this point since I only made one sale N1.

Anyway, the back and forth was because people seeing "this shrine does that" had immediate suspicions about people who did not have that on their cards, and vice versa. But it got worked out as (most likely) NAI.

[Timsup2nothin]

wait how/when did Tim see those role cards

There's been three flips. You can open the spoiler and read their role cards. Plus mine makes four.

tim, iirc I remembered a concept you was having with a few others. it was speculation about shrines and stuff. and abilities? and the take away was some would know some would not know and those who didn't know ahead of time might have greater powers or something something. I know this was a conversation I read early in day 1.

tim, do u remember this? and who was talking to you about it?

Just clarified to Syn.

[Syn]

did Alison or Nanook post in day 1 if they knew or not about shrines or anything?

how would they know anything

was my question not coherent?

well, your question seems kind of silly

you're asking if two uninformed villagers had special information regarding shrines on D1 before any actions

There was some back and forth on day one because some people (and Alison was included) could see on their own role cards that different shrines do different things for them, where other people do not have that on their cards...example, Seanzie. I was in that discussion because my role card actually makes no mention at all of what the shrines do, and apparently the shrines themselves do not do anything for me. I make money based on the number of people that visit the shrine I visit, and then I get to buy things...if I live long enough and make good choices, neither of which seems likely at this point since I only made one sale N1.

Anyway, the back and forth was because people seeing "this shrine does that" had immediate suspicions about people who did not have that on their cards, and vice versa. But it got worked out as (most likely) NAI.

meet me out behind Wendy's Boethiah

[Syn]

fuck I am so dead tonight

[Timsup2nothin]

fuck I am so dead tonight

Yeah...sux.

And if we let him live and he is telling the truth Gavail will probably be watching Nacho and waiting for the wolves while you are dying.

[KZA]

My Sheogorath power is literally just Chaos

[DaisyCloud]

this took me a bit of time. 7m on my phone. sorry for bad formatting. but 8 4hibk I found most of the posts about all this.

Spoiler: show

I don't know what any Shrines do for anyone. Don't we have to visit them to find out? And should we share what they do publicly?

Yikes. Am I the only town that knows shit? Have I already revealed too much?

Or is Long Con bad with Tim?

This is a terrible theory and you should be ashamed.

Read page 1, highlighting some stuff. Will be back for pages 2 and 3 after dinner.

So every race has a pairing except for the Nords, which have a trio?

Don’t yet see the importance of knowing another player’s race, since alignments are randomized.

Someone more versed with skyrim might be able to draw conclusions of racial connections to daedra attunement? I haven’t found any as of yet.

But man...my character is butt ugly.
I can tell you that I probably pray to the ass-face god.

Don’t know if Tamriel race science is totally useless in this game, it most likely is, and here is Scotty starting a conversation that he knows won’t lead anywhere.

So, historically this is where I make the one word post; "first" and then dip for several hours. I have always found that amusing, since I am never actually first. However, I have been putting off a change in playstyle for several games due to an unfortunate series of rands and the opportunity has finally arrived. No one word humor driven first post. No threadsitting fluff posting. No obnoxiously refusing to give reads. I'm just here to town it up and if the wolves NK me for it that's fine.

I wanted to do this in GoC but that vig rand; I had to play it to stay alive. I have read through all the rules and such in the OP and my own role, and I think all the good power type actions are going to be available to all town players based on shrine visits so I am just one of many and eating the early NK will be fine.

I do have a pretty strong amount of experience with Elder Scrolls games, though I think Sloonei is writing a new story here and that knowledge is background at best. If anyone has questions I will try to help though. Ping me.

As a first cut, Azura is generally the most inclined to help mortals among the Daedra...and Mehrunes Dagon should really translate as "run the other way as fast as you can" so I am most likely not visiting that shrine ever.

Moving on from one word posts to using 500 words to say one word. No, just kidding, this is alright.

I disagree with Alison’s interpretation of the set-up (why make it the same shrine at all if they’re individually different to each of us?) but I could also read that more closely. I read the rules yesterday but I haven’t looked at the artifacts and all that shit yet.

I have a confirmable PR that is unambiguously town-sided.

This seems unlikely from Sloonei's opening material posts, but no one is likely to be in a hurry to kill you, so sure...demonstrate.

One of us is misunderstanding the setup I think.

My reading is that each character accesses different powers from different shrines. So as an example. Altmer Noble may be able to access shrines A, B, C, D and E. Argonian Mage may be able to access shrines C, D, E, F and G. Both can access shrine C but they get different powers from accessing shrine C based on the flavor of C as well as their own character's flavor.

One of the powers I can access from a shrine is confirmable and I think pretty pro-town.

If you have detailed info on what powers you get from various shrines you are way ahead of me, but I'm pretty deeply in the "yeah typical NPC type character" pool, so sure. Thanks for clarifying because I was mostly thinking this was your fairly typical early game claim and not really aligning well with the set-up, but it does make sense enough now.

Let me lead by example then: I’m going to scumread tim right now.

Maybe I am off base here, but I know exactly what the shrines I can access do, and I am town.
Could it be that some town roles don’t see that into? Maybe.
But I’m currently getting non commital vibes that don’t ring town in tim

I am just a humble merchant and don't know squat from what Daedric shrines do. If you seriously think "unaffiliated with Daedra" is gonna be a wolf tell in this setup, then...sure, go get it tiger. I think that's a really bad assumption.

Let's check the flip side...Alison says that like you she has info on what the shrines do for her...does that make her a lock town in your opinion?

side eye to anyone saying they don't know what a shrine does tbh


Also to anyone pushing me for committing to a bit wrt voting kyle

okay so idk if this means anything or not. but Alison and Nanook both flipped town and knew about their nite actions and shrines and such.

and everyone is talking about shrines and chaos and. I feel like this doesn't look good.

did KZA know? apparently gavial knows?

or is this NAI. I'm not trying to shade anyone or call anyone out. I just don't wanna waste my time and fall down a rabbit hole chasing something thst isn't there.

[DaisyCloud]

did Alison or Nanook post in day 1 if they knew or not about shrines or anything?

how would they know anything

was my question not coherent?

well, your question seems kind of silly

you're asking if two uninformed villagers had special information regarding shrines on D1 before any actions

There was some back and forth on day one because some people (and Alison was included) could see on their own role cards that different shrines do different things for them, where other people do not have that on their cards...example, Seanzie. I was in that discussion because my role card actually makes no mention at all of what the shrines do, and apparently the shrines themselves do not do anything for me. I make money based on the number of people that visit the shrine I visit, and then I get to buy things...if I live long enough and make good choices, neither of which seems likely at this point since I only made one sale N1.

Anyway, the back and forth was because people seeing "this shrine does that" had immediate suspicions about people who did not have that on their cards, and vice versa. But it got worked out as (most likely) NAI.

oh okay

I see

[KZA]

Hahhahahaha mafia have to kill me and Syn

[KZA]

Why perform well when you can rand some overly towny power and clear someone

Congress of Vienna type KZA

[DaisyCloud]

Spoiler: show

wait how/when did Tim see those role cards

There's been three flips. You can open the spoiler and read their role cards. Plus mine makes four.

lol yall got post restrictions and I'm off the poll

What shrine gave you that? Did your role card tell you that outcome was available?

i chose chaos. i didn't even get a result and didn't notice until mac pointed it out.

minorly interesting that Mac chose a gif saying chaos and now you're saying chaos when the OP description of Sheogorath doesn't say that at all

It is what the role cards that list the Sheogorath shrine say.

wait how/when did Tim see those role cards

There's been three flips. You can open the spoiler and read their role cards. Plus mine makes four.

tim, iirc I remembered a concept you was having with a few others. it was speculation about shrines and stuff. and abilities? and the take away was some would know some would not know and those who didn't know ahead of time might have greater powers or something something. I know this was a conversation I read early in day 1.

tim, do u remember this? and who was talking to you about it?

Just clarified to Syn.

thank u ♡

[Timsup2nothin]

this took me a bit of time. 7m on my phone. sorry for bad formatting. but 8 4hibk I found most of the posts about all this.

Spoiler: show

I don't know what any Shrines do for anyone. Don't we have to visit them to find out? And should we share what they do publicly?

Yikes. Am I the only town that knows shit? Have I already revealed too much?

Or is Long Con bad with Tim?

This is a terrible theory and you should be ashamed.

Read page 1, highlighting some stuff. Will be back for pages 2 and 3 after dinner.

So every race has a pairing except for the Nords, which have a trio?

Don’t yet see the importance of knowing another player’s race, since alignments are randomized.

Someone more versed with skyrim might be able to draw conclusions of racial connections to daedra attunement? I haven’t found any as of yet.

But man...my character is butt ugly.
I can tell you that I probably pray to the ass-face god.

Don’t know if Tamriel race science is totally useless in this game, it most likely is, and here is Scotty starting a conversation that he knows won’t lead anywhere.

So, historically this is where I make the one word post; "first" and then dip for several hours. I have always found that amusing, since I am never actually first. However, I have been putting off a change in playstyle for several games due to an unfortunate series of rands and the opportunity has finally arrived. No one word humor driven first post. No threadsitting fluff posting. No obnoxiously refusing to give reads. I'm just here to town it up and if the wolves NK me for it that's fine.

I wanted to do this in GoC but that vig rand; I had to play it to stay alive. I have read through all the rules and such in the OP and my own role, and I think all the good power type actions are going to be available to all town players based on shrine visits so I am just one of many and eating the early NK will be fine.

I do have a pretty strong amount of experience with Elder Scrolls games, though I think Sloonei is writing a new story here and that knowledge is background at best. If anyone has questions I will try to help though. Ping me.

As a first cut, Azura is generally the most inclined to help mortals among the Daedra...and Mehrunes Dagon should really translate as "run the other way as fast as you can" so I am most likely not visiting that shrine ever.

Moving on from one word posts to using 500 words to say one word. No, just kidding, this is alright.

I disagree with Alison’s interpretation of the set-up (why make it the same shrine at all if they’re individually different to each of us?) but I could also read that more closely. I read the rules yesterday but I haven’t looked at the artifacts and all that shit yet.

I have a confirmable PR that is unambiguously town-sided.

This seems unlikely from Sloonei's opening material posts, but no one is likely to be in a hurry to kill you, so sure...demonstrate.

One of us is misunderstanding the setup I think.

My reading is that each character accesses different powers from different shrines. So as an example. Altmer Noble may be able to access shrines A, B, C, D and E. Argonian Mage may be able to access shrines C, D, E, F and G. Both can access shrine C but they get different powers from accessing shrine C based on the flavor of C as well as their own character's flavor.

One of the powers I can access from a shrine is confirmable and I think pretty pro-town.

If you have detailed info on what powers you get from various shrines you are way ahead of me, but I'm pretty deeply in the "yeah typical NPC type character" pool, so sure. Thanks for clarifying because I was mostly thinking this was your fairly typical early game claim and not really aligning well with the set-up, but it does make sense enough now.

Let me lead by example then: I’m going to scumread tim right now.

Maybe I am off base here, but I know exactly what the shrines I can access do, and I am town.
Could it be that some town roles don’t see that into? Maybe.
But I’m currently getting non commital vibes that don’t ring town in tim

I am just a humble merchant and don't know squat from what Daedric shrines do. If you seriously think "unaffiliated with Daedra" is gonna be a wolf tell in this setup, then...sure, go get it tiger. I think that's a really bad assumption.

Let's check the flip side...Alison says that like you she has info on what the shrines do for her...does that make her a lock town in your opinion?

side eye to anyone saying they don't know what a shrine does tbh


Also to anyone pushing me for committing to a bit wrt voting kyle

okay so idk if this means anything or not. but Alison and Nanook both flipped town and knew about their nite actions and shrines and such.

and everyone is talking about shrines and chaos and. I feel like this doesn't look good.

did KZA know? apparently gavial knows?

or is this NAI. I'm not trying to shade anyone or call anyone out. I just don't wanna waste my time and fall down a rabbit hole chasing something thst isn't there.

We all arrived at NAI, and at this point it is demonstrated NAI Daisy, because yeah Nanook and Alison had limited choices with what the shrines did, but Seanzie didn't have that and all three were town. My role is more like Seanzies, in that it relates more to who goes to the shrine than it relates to the shrine itself. I went to a shrine last night and I still don't know what it does...I just know that exactly one other person went there. I assume I sold them a souvenir snow globe or something. For the money made I can buy...nothing. If I sell another snow globe tonight then tomorrow I will be able to buy...nothing much. I need to be getting two or three a night to get anything worthwhile by like day four.

That's part of why I can't accept this back to back watcher tracker thing. That is hugely powerful compared to any of the other roles so far. I mean, that seems very powerful compared to Seanzie and he had an artifact. How does Gavail draw that? Is he the only one with access to those shrines, because a flood of people that could just pick "oh I wanna be a watcher" basically breaks the game? So he almost has to be lying here, but if he is a wolf...why does he tell this whopper?

[Timsup2nothin]

Why perform well when you can rand some overly towny power and clear someone

Congress of Vienna type KZA

Well played!!!

I am actually extremely jealous here but trying to hide it.

You got a check, at random. That is more powerful than anything I saw on any other card. What do you make of Gavail's claim that he has access to a tracker shrine AND a watcher shrine? Does that seem plausible?

[Kylemii]

bookmarp 1701

[Timsup2nothin]

and even be afraid of that hypothetical 3P

The artifact list implies pretty heavily that there is a 3P (rogue) and the way the description of the Mace of Molag Bal ends in [secrets] has me pretty worried. I kinda think the wolves should be worried about that too, given that my last Sloonei game featured TWO 3ps with "win solo" opportunities.

is this a slip

Oh give it a rest. I read the OP stuff. So sure, now I have "TMI" because I know more than you about the setup.

lol it was a joke because you said "the wolves should be worried too" instead of "town should be worried too"

The town is already worried, because I am town, ya daft. We knew the town was worried because you, me, and someone else were discussing it, and I know I am town and you are green checked.

you could always say kza is my partner and fake clearing me

why are we bookmarking this @Kylemii ?

[Quin]

why do you all hate lizards?




lollygagger.

[Gavial]

3 out of 24 players flipped, one could go to Nocturnal

is that really indicative of "not many can go there" and also a reason why your life should be preserved so you specifically can go there?

Yeah so I can remove myself from PoE and remove a wolf so we don’t get clean sweeped by 5.

right...

and you are certain that you'll watch the NK... how?

I’m not certain.
I’m hoping.