AIM Mafia [Town Wins!]

[Made]

Everyone has logged back on...except for falcon45ca!!!

He was town!

Day 4 has begun.

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@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@MacDougall
@TonyStarkPrime
@Marmot
@Justplayingitcool
@falcon45ca

[MacDougall]

aight

[MacDougall]

poll not updated

[Justplayingitcool]

Marmot probably doesn’t make that kill. Seems too obvious

[Justplayingitcool]

I targeted nanook for chats

[MacDougall]

This is gonna be tough.

I am confident Marmot is town.

I think Nook is.

I kinda think JPIC is.

I guess that leave Tony Two Tone.

[MacDougall]

I targeted nanook for chats

any reason?

[Justplayingitcool]

I targeted nanook for chats

any reason?

I hadn’t spoken to him much this game and wanted to hear more thoughts from his perspective

[MacDougall]

I had a look at the Ted chat and he didn't really share any reads aside from Mac mafia.

I kinda wouldn't hate being chopped today lol.

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: TonyStarkPrime] aubergine

[Justplayingitcool]

ngl i also had paranoia during the night that tsp was a wolf as well

[Justplayingitcool]

I had a look at the Ted chat and he didn't really share any reads aside from Mac mafia.

I kinda wouldn't hate being chopped today lol.

Ted had me/nook/tsp in his poe if you are green

[MacDougall]

ngl i also had paranoia during the night that tsp was a wolf as well

I mean at this point why would it even be paranoia? Which of the scumreads you could have left wouldn't be considered paranoia?

[MacDougall]

Ted also correctly guessed that Falcon would die fwiw.

[MacDougall]

I had a look at the Ted chat and he didn't really share any reads aside from Mac mafia.

I kinda wouldn't hate being chopped today lol.

Ted had me/nook/tsp in his poe if you are green

helpful...

I guess we're taking marmot as a clear and letting him figure it out then.

[Justplayingitcool]

ngl i also had paranoia during the night that tsp was a wolf as well

I mean at this point why would it even be paranoia? Which of the scumreads you could have left wouldn't be considered paranoia?

Because I initially townread before the ted flip. But a wolf!tsp was crossing my mind during the night

[Justplayingitcool]

Wifom me if you like but falcon towncored me last day phase

[MacDougall]

what's your plan for today?

[Justplayingitcool]

Read sean’s ISO and everybody else’s

[Justplayingitcool]

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Online - Town

Dana - Absolutely reeks of town. I admit I'm surprised that she wasn't the nightkill and I have a slight tinfoil for that reason, but I feel otherwise confident both because of how she's played the game, and based on other people's reads of her.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - I feel fairly confident on Nanook being town. He slanked in our chat yeah, that's what I'd expect, but he also meme-ISO'd everyone on Day 1, which I don't think he does as scum. Also, his votes, while sometimes sheeping, have come with his own reasoning rather than being strictly sheep votes.

JPIC - His reactions to votes seem to be NAI, so my one reason to suspect him is invalid. Also, he's trying to solve Gavial. As scum, I don't think he has extended conversations with Gavial trying to draw out his reasoning for his reads. I find this behavior town.


Away - Slight Town Lean

Tedxtr - I think ted seems comfortable in this game. I've seen many flashes of solviness from him, he doesn't seem perturbed by any heat sent his way. I think he and JPIC had a pretty active chat (or at least I encouraged some of it). Also, similar to JPIC, he seems to be trying to figure out Gavial.

Esooa - This is another weird slot. My perception is that she's spending more time solving in chat than in the thread. I would like clarification on that from her chat partners. She's also making less waves than I expect from her town game which is disconcerting to me.

Gavial - This is a read I'm struggling with. Despite being the leading wagon today, he still seems like he's trying to solve the game. Or at least that's what I'm seeing. I don't follow his read progressions very well because he sometimes doesn't explain them, so I could just be misreading and he's just trying to dilute the thread with random takes. He has had moments where I question his sincerity, and he was a little surprisingly quiet in our chat towards EOD1. But he's slight town now due to his current actions which I find are fine. One thing I have trouble with on Gavial is that he could be teamed with anybody in my mind.

MacDougall - I don't trust Mac, but that's probably more of a shortcoming in my own play rather than him being scum. He is in my POE because I don't trust him, but I'm willing to sheep the numerous townreads he's drawing from other players (particularly the ones who have BTSC with him). I want him to pick me for tomorrow though.



Offline - POE

Seanzie - He's fallen off hard mainly due to his single post today, which felt a little bit like a shade thrown at me for picking JJJ last night. I do like his Day 1 and our chat, but I also think that sean killed JJJ last night after some of the chat conversations we had.

TonyStarkPrime - Nothing particularly wrong with his play, but nothing that makes me want to TR him either. I do think this is more indicative of his town game, but I don't feel confident enough to give him a townread for it.

falcon45ca - I really dislike this post from falcon. Like yeah Mac didn't answer my question, but imo, Mac doesn't dance around questions, he'll answer them or call them dumb. Similar to Tony, he hasn't done much for me to TR him, but I think he's had worse moments.

If we're talking NKA, I'd argue that sean wouldn't kill Jay, but that's my opinion.

Marmot, do you mind explaining the sean stuff again. In your reads list, you felt Sean would kill JJJ, but in your second post, you stated he wouldn't kill them?

[Justplayingitcool]

Do we think mafia cross targeted each other this time?

To add to this, I am wondering if scum targeted their buddy after d1 because of the conclusion that wolves wouldn't target their partner.

[Justplayingitcool]

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Oh Sloonei isn't in this game


Hardclaim mason with Sean.

Oh, I see how it is... Second choice for mason...

Gosh dangit, I even picked Jay for my chat partner.

You didn't think Jay was likely to die?

@Seanzie how you doin' buddy? Come and vote plz?

lol u want ted dead that bad eh

I want sean to come say things and vote, that's a reasonable desire.

Don't think this set of posts ever makes marmot scum with Sean - if I was a wolf with sean, I don't think anyone would outright state in the thread that they want them to come in and vote at a critical time of the game where sean was on the chopping block. Combined with the kill, marmot seems like the red herring and shaded in his direction.

I don't think mafia would target the chat on the same day as the night kill. If we also believe that our conclusion on D1 mafia didn't target their partner, then this should mean marmot is a good rodent. I would be sceptical about the conclusion if it was marmot who stated it in thread, but instead, it was TSP.

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i mean in that game you killed jay and then sloonei and i think then won it's not really like there was a lot else to do

You clearly didn't read wolfchat.

who did you chat with today sean?

TonyStonkPrime.

I challenged him to a game of chess with the caveat that the loser has to out their alignment. He beat me in 13 moves...

TSP isn't playing a game to find out my partner though, which is SUS

he's a wolf

I think these sets of posts are pretty interesting in hindsight now. TSP was telling me in chats that all sean did was play chess, rather than solve via Discord as Mac claimed they did with him, or sean just trying to resolve JJJ in marmots chat. I don't think TSP and sean make this set of posts if they were aligned together as wolves - could be bussing but again from the chats with TSP and reading back we came up with some solid reasoning to suspect sean, he even encouraged me to vote sean in Discord. I find it a tad concerning that marmot & TSP both had different experiences with Sean in their AIM chats compared to Mac.

We also talked about the Esooa nk a bit and seeing it was a bit strange because they were quiet in the thread, so it's very possible they were active in their btsc. @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, you were in a chat with them I believe, did they say they had any active suspicions on the people alive?

[Justplayingitcool]

Who did everybody target for chat this phase?

I targeted Tedxtr. Dana targeted me.

How did you know Dana targeted you?

Has anybody else been told they got targeted by the person that got night killed the previous night?

[Justplayingitcool]

Can everyone fill this in?

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Day 1:

Bo -> Falcon (assigned)
Dana -> JPIC
Esooa -> Mac
Falcon -> Sean
Gavial -> Marmot
JJJ -> TSP
JPIC -> Marmot
Mac -> Esooa
Marmot -> Nanook
Nanook -> Mac
Sean -> Marmot
Ted -> JPIC
TSP -> Mac


Day 2:

Dana -> Nanook
Esooa -> Dana
Falcon -> Marmot
Gavial -> Nanook
JPIC -> Mac
Mac -> JPIC (assigned)
Marmot -> (JJJ)
Nanook -> (JJJ)
Sean -> Mac
Ted -> Marmot (assigned)
TSP -> Nanook


Day 3:

Dana -> Marmot
Falcon -> Mac (?)
JPIC -> TSP
Mac ->
Marmot -> TSP
Nanook -> Mac
Sean -> TSP
Ted -> JPIC (rng)
TSP -> Falcon

Day 4:

Jpic -> Dana (RNG)
Marmot ->
Falcon ->
Mac ->
Ted -> Mac
TSP ->
Nanook ->

Day 5:

JPIC -> Nanook
Marmot ->
Mac ->
TSP ->
Nanook ->

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

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Oh Sloonei isn't in this game


Hardclaim mason with Sean.

Oh, I see how it is... Second choice for mason...

Gosh dangit, I even picked Jay for my chat partner.

You didn't think Jay was likely to die?

@Seanzie how you doin' buddy? Come and vote plz?

lol u want ted dead that bad eh

I want sean to come say things and vote, that's a reasonable desire.

Don't think this set of posts ever makes marmot scum with Sean - if I was a wolf with sean, I don't think anyone would outright state in the thread that they want them to come in and vote at a critical time of the game where sean was on the chopping block. Combined with the kill, marmot seems like the red herring and shaded in his direction.

I don't think mafia would target the chat on the same day as the night kill. If we also believe that our conclusion on D1 mafia didn't target their partner, then this should mean marmot is a good rodent. I would be sceptical about the conclusion if it was marmot who stated it in thread, but instead, it was TSP.

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i mean in that game you killed jay and then sloonei and i think then won it's not really like there was a lot else to do

You clearly didn't read wolfchat.

who did you chat with today sean?

TonyStonkPrime.

I challenged him to a game of chess with the caveat that the loser has to out their alignment. He beat me in 13 moves...

TSP isn't playing a game to find out my partner though, which is SUS

he's a wolf

I think these sets of posts are pretty interesting in hindsight now. TSP was telling me in chats that all sean did was play chess, rather than solve via Discord as Mac claimed they did with him, or sean just trying to resolve JJJ in marmots chat. I don't think TSP and sean make this set of posts if they were aligned together as wolves - could be bussing but again from the chats with TSP and reading back we came up with some solid reasoning to suspect sean, he even encouraged me to vote sean in Discord. I find it a tad concerning that marmot & TSP both had different experiences with Sean in their AIM chats compared to Mac.

We also talked about the Esooa nk a bit and seeing it was a bit strange because they were quiet in the thread, so it's very possible they were active in their btsc. @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, you were in a chat with them I believe, did they say they had any active suspicions on the people alive?

In a chat with...Sean? I wasn't.

[Justplayingitcool]

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Oh Sloonei isn't in this game


Hardclaim mason with Sean.

Oh, I see how it is... Second choice for mason...

Gosh dangit, I even picked Jay for my chat partner.

You didn't think Jay was likely to die?

@Seanzie how you doin' buddy? Come and vote plz?

lol u want ted dead that bad eh

I want sean to come say things and vote, that's a reasonable desire.

Don't think this set of posts ever makes marmot scum with Sean - if I was a wolf with sean, I don't think anyone would outright state in the thread that they want them to come in and vote at a critical time of the game where sean was on the chopping block. Combined with the kill, marmot seems like the red herring and shaded in his direction.

I don't think mafia would target the chat on the same day as the night kill. If we also believe that our conclusion on D1 mafia didn't target their partner, then this should mean marmot is a good rodent. I would be sceptical about the conclusion if it was marmot who stated it in thread, but instead, it was TSP.

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i mean in that game you killed jay and then sloonei and i think then won it's not really like there was a lot else to do

You clearly didn't read wolfchat.

who did you chat with today sean?

TonyStonkPrime.

I challenged him to a game of chess with the caveat that the loser has to out their alignment. He beat me in 13 moves...

TSP isn't playing a game to find out my partner though, which is SUS

he's a wolf

I think these sets of posts are pretty interesting in hindsight now. TSP was telling me in chats that all sean did was play chess, rather than solve via Discord as Mac claimed they did with him, or sean just trying to resolve JJJ in marmots chat. I don't think TSP and sean make this set of posts if they were aligned together as wolves - could be bussing but again from the chats with TSP and reading back we came up with some solid reasoning to suspect sean, he even encouraged me to vote sean in Discord. I find it a tad concerning that marmot & TSP both had different experiences with Sean in their AIM chats compared to Mac.

We also talked about the Esooa nk a bit and seeing it was a bit strange because they were quiet in the thread, so it's very possible they were active in their btsc. @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, you were in a chat with them I believe, did they say they had any active suspicions on the people alive?

In a chat with...Sean? I wasn't.

I meant Esooa.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Oh, I didn't have chat with her either, Dana reported they were fairly active in chat tho iirc, and we did a bit of message passing using Dana

[Justplayingitcool]

Oh strange, not sure why I thought you were in a chat together.

Who did you target for chats?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Whats gonna happen is were gonna kill Joseph and if he flips town were gonna kill whomever he says to in f3

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Oh strange, not sure why I thought you were in a chat together.

Who did you target for chats?

Mac, Jay, esooa, Dana, let it rand last night and guess what

It was falcon

I may be cursed

[Justplayingitcool]

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Day 1:

Bo -> Falcon (assigned)
Dana -> JPIC
Esooa -> Mac
Falcon -> Sean
Gavial -> Marmot
JJJ -> TSP
JPIC -> Marmot
Mac -> Esooa
Marmot -> Nanook
Nanook -> Mac
Sean -> Marmot
Ted -> JPIC
TSP -> Mac


Day 2:

Dana -> Nanook
Esooa -> Dana
Falcon -> Marmot
Gavial -> Nanook
JPIC -> Mac
Mac -> JPIC (assigned)
Marmot -> (JJJ)
Nanook -> (JJJ)
Sean -> Mac
Ted -> Marmot (assigned)
TSP -> Nanook


Day 3:

Dana -> Marmot
Falcon -> Mac (?)
JPIC -> TSP
Mac ->
Marmot -> TSP
Nanook -> Mac Esooa
Sean -> TSP
Ted -> JPIC (rng)
TSP -> Falcon

Day 4:

Jpic -> Dana (RNG)
Marmot ->
Falcon ->
Mac ->
Ted -> Mac
TSP ->
Nanook -> Dana

Day 5:

JPIC -> Nanook
Marmot ->
Mac ->
TSP ->
Nanook -> falcon (rng)

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Mac targeted me d3

[MacDougall]

Who did everybody target for chat this phase?

I targeted Tedxtr. Dana targeted me.

How did you know Dana targeted you?

Has anybody else been told they got targeted by the person that got night killed the previous night?

Made created the channel and added me to it.

[MacDougall]

day 4 I targeted Tedxtr
day 5 Marmot

[MacDougall]

and TSP has targeted me

[TonyStarkPrime]

gonna solve the game but it might not be for a few hours

[Marmot]

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Online - Town

Dana - Absolutely reeks of town. I admit I'm surprised that she wasn't the nightkill and I have a slight tinfoil for that reason, but I feel otherwise confident both because of how she's played the game, and based on other people's reads of her.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - I feel fairly confident on Nanook being town. He slanked in our chat yeah, that's what I'd expect, but he also meme-ISO'd everyone on Day 1, which I don't think he does as scum. Also, his votes, while sometimes sheeping, have come with his own reasoning rather than being strictly sheep votes.

JPIC - His reactions to votes seem to be NAI, so my one reason to suspect him is invalid. Also, he's trying to solve Gavial. As scum, I don't think he has extended conversations with Gavial trying to draw out his reasoning for his reads. I find this behavior town.


Away - Slight Town Lean

Tedxtr - I think ted seems comfortable in this game. I've seen many flashes of solviness from him, he doesn't seem perturbed by any heat sent his way. I think he and JPIC had a pretty active chat (or at least I encouraged some of it). Also, similar to JPIC, he seems to be trying to figure out Gavial.

Esooa - This is another weird slot. My perception is that she's spending more time solving in chat than in the thread. I would like clarification on that from her chat partners. She's also making less waves than I expect from her town game which is disconcerting to me.

Gavial - This is a read I'm struggling with. Despite being the leading wagon today, he still seems like he's trying to solve the game. Or at least that's what I'm seeing. I don't follow his read progressions very well because he sometimes doesn't explain them, so I could just be misreading and he's just trying to dilute the thread with random takes. He has had moments where I question his sincerity, and he was a little surprisingly quiet in our chat towards EOD1. But he's slight town now due to his current actions which I find are fine. One thing I have trouble with on Gavial is that he could be teamed with anybody in my mind.

MacDougall - I don't trust Mac, but that's probably more of a shortcoming in my own play rather than him being scum. He is in my POE because I don't trust him, but I'm willing to sheep the numerous townreads he's drawing from other players (particularly the ones who have BTSC with him). I want him to pick me for tomorrow though.



Offline - POE

Seanzie - He's fallen off hard mainly due to his single post today, which felt a little bit like a shade thrown at me for picking JJJ last night. I do like his Day 1 and our chat, but I also think that sean killed JJJ last night after some of the chat conversations we had.

TonyStarkPrime - Nothing particularly wrong with his play, but nothing that makes me want to TR him either. I do think this is more indicative of his town game, but I don't feel confident enough to give him a townread for it.

falcon45ca - I really dislike this post from falcon. Like yeah Mac didn't answer my question, but imo, Mac doesn't dance around questions, he'll answer them or call them dumb. Similar to Tony, he hasn't done much for me to TR him, but I think he's had worse moments.

If we're talking NKA, I'd argue that sean wouldn't kill Jay, but that's my opinion.

Marmot, do you mind explaining the sean stuff again. In your reads list, you felt Sean would kill JJJ, but in your second post, you stated he wouldn't kill them?

I don't exactly remember the thought process behind that post about sean. Yes I do think sean fell off Day 2 (and really fell off hard Day 3, no posting the final 36 hours). As for the NK choice... I don't recall. Maybe at the time I thought that sean would kill JJJ after learning what a strong player he is (and that he was never gonna be yeeted). But I changed my mind later because I thought that since JJJ did have a TR of sean, he might have left him alive.

[Marmot]

@TonyStarkPrime can you explain to me why in our Day 3 BTSC, you townread falcon so hard and didn't want him yeeted?

[Marmot]

Who did everybody target for chat this phase?

I targeted Tedxtr. Dana targeted me.

How did you know Dana targeted you?

Has anybody else been told they got targeted by the person that got night killed the previous night?

The night I targeted JJJ, I still got the chatroom with him, he was just dead and couldn't respond.

[Justplayingitcool]

Who did everybody target for chat this phase?

I targeted Tedxtr. Dana targeted me.

How did you know Dana targeted you?

Has anybody else been told they got targeted by the person that got night killed the previous night?

The night I targeted JJJ, I still got the chatroom with him, he was just dead and couldn't respond.

Yeah, same here when I targeted Dana with RNG. My point was has a dead person from the previous night got a chat with a 'living person'.

[Justplayingitcool]

@TonyStarkPrime can you explain to me why in our Day 3 BTSC, you townread falcon so hard and didn't want him yeeted?

Strange. I never got the impression from my chat with TSP that he townread falcon.

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

@TonyStarkPrime can you explain to me why in our Day 3 BTSC, you townread falcon so hard and didn't want him yeeted?

because i wanted sean or ted yeeted instead?

[Justplayingitcool]

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Day 1:

Bo -> Falcon (assigned)
Dana -> JPIC
Esooa -> Mac
Falcon -> Sean
Gavial -> Marmot
JJJ -> TSP
JPIC -> Marmot
Mac -> Esooa
Marmot -> Nanook
Nanook -> Mac
Sean -> Marmot
Ted -> JPIC
TSP -> Mac


Day 2:

Dana -> Nanook
Esooa -> Dana
Falcon -> Marmot
Gavial -> Nanook
JPIC -> Mac
Mac -> JPIC (assigned)
Marmot -> (JJJ)
Nanook -> (JJJ)
Sean -> Mac
Ted -> Marmot (assigned)
TSP -> Nanook


Day 3:

Dana -> Marmot
Falcon -> Mac (?)
JPIC -> TSP
Mac -> Nanook
Marmot -> TSP
Nanook -> Mac Esooa
Sean -> TSP
Ted -> JPIC (rng)
TSP -> Falcon

Day 4:

Jpic -> Dana (RNG)
Marmot ->
Falcon ->
Mac -> Ted
Ted -> Mac
TSP ->
Nanook -> Dana

Day 5:

JPIC -> Nanook
Marmot ->
Mac -> Marmot
TSP -> Mac
Nanook -> falcon (rng)

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

nanook day 4

[Justplayingitcool]

lol change accounts

[TonyStarkPrime]

so much extra work

[Justplayingitcool]

Anyone around lol

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Anyone around lol

Just us meerkats

[MacDougall]

Marmot asked me a question in my private chat that got me thinking.

The question was "why are you alive?"

The answer... I haven't been threatening wolves.

Which equates to literally only one possible person being the mafia. Nanook.

Who is now voting for me.

So okay we can thunderdome Nook.

[MacDougall]

@Justplayingitcool what's Nook been like in chat?