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My solution is usually to make the connections make sense but be so abstract or arbitrary that it's hard to flavor-angleshoot based off them. Like, you run a Star Wars mafia, and you make Obi Wan a ninja because he has lots of experience with infiltration from the Clone Wars. It sort of makes sense but nobody's ever going to look at an Obi Wan flavor and immediately think "ninja!".Honey & Vinegar wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 10:01 am imagine designing a themed game and not designing roles based on the characters
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I'd probably vote Mana then.FalconKnows wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 10:02 amWhat happens when we flip green?Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 10:01 am I'm talking myself into H&V town now which would make FK scum equity skyrocket.
[VOTE: FalconKnows] aubergine
We can easily clear H&V and semi-clear Mana off a red flip from this which would be pretty huge.
Speaking of. What is your read on Mana?
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I have no strong feelings towards mana. She had a read on us which felt forced in early game but I can think of reasons why scum and town would have made a read like the one they did.Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 10:06 amI'd probably vote Mana then.FalconKnows wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 10:02 amWhat happens when we flip green?Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 10:01 am I'm talking myself into H&V town now which would make FK scum equity skyrocket.
[VOTE: FalconKnows] aubergine
We can easily clear H&V and semi-clear Mana off a red flip from this which would be pretty huge.
Speaking of. What is your read on Mana?
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Ngl think the FK/Mana unalign is weak
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This makes sense if they are about to get exed. A scum loverizer who was in a good position in the thread would probably look for a middling town player to strike a balance between pocket and KP.TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 10:04 am And i think a scum loverizer would attach themselves to a strong town player that they might not immediately nk. So if they get yeeted they take someone else down with them
Another school of thought is to just leave that slot alone and let the claim self-resolve. If H&V are town then mafia will shoot them for free KP, in which case we should let the mafia flip them for us rather than waste our exe on that slot. If H&V are scum then Timsup2gettinserious is essentially perma-docced which is beneficial in its own way.
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what does this even mean?
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That's why I said semi-clear and not full clear.
But Mana was taking heat and immediately tried to force a wagon on FK which more likely to not be on a teammate.
Regardless we'll take it one flip at a time. I do think H&V looks really good off an FK scum flip, since it makes that push on them for "TMI" look like scum fishing for an easy misexe.
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So your take on us being scum is based on the assumption HV is town & we're going for an easy misexe via TMI claim?Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 10:10 amThat's why I said semi-clear and not full clear.
But Mana was taking heat and immediately tried to force a wagon on FK which more likely to not be on a teammate.
Regardless we'll take it one flip at a time. I do think H&V looks really good off an FK scum flip, since it makes that push on them for "TMI" look like scum fishing for an easy misexe.
How is it an easy mischop if BKs TMI read isn't widely shared? (Hint, it's not)
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No I'm saying if you flip scum H&V is probably town.FalconKnows wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 10:13 amSo your take on us being scum is based on the assumption HV is town & we're going for an easy misexe via TMI claim?Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 10:10 amThat's why I said semi-clear and not full clear.
But Mana was taking heat and immediately tried to force a wagon on FK which more likely to not be on a teammate.
Regardless we'll take it one flip at a time. I do think H&V looks really good off an FK scum flip, since it makes that push on them for "TMI" look like scum fishing for an easy misexe.
How is it an easy mischop if BKs TMI read isn't widely shared? (Hint, it's not)
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Yeah so i think if they were in a good position then maybe they would holster if it was x-shot.Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 10:08 amThis makes sense if they are about to get exed. A scum loverizer who was in a good position in the thread would probably look for a middling town player to strike a balance between pocket and KP.TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 10:04 am And i think a scum loverizer would attach themselves to a strong town player that they might not immediately nk. So if they get yeeted they take someone else down with them
Another school of thought is to just leave that slot alone and let the claim self-resolve. If H&V are town then mafia will shoot them for free KP, in which case we should let the mafia flip them for us rather than waste our exe on that slot. If H&V are scum then Timsup2gettinserious is essentially perma-docced which is beneficial in its own way.
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So what's your scum read on us based off? Perhaps I missed something, but it did read as tho you're basing it off a TR of HV & BK's push on that slotAkemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 10:14 amNo I'm saying if you flip scum H&V is probably town.FalconKnows wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 10:13 amSo your take on us being scum is based on the assumption HV is town & we're going for an easy misexe via TMI claim?Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 10:10 amThat's why I said semi-clear and not full clear.
But Mana was taking heat and immediately tried to force a wagon on FK which more likely to not be on a teammate.
Regardless we'll take it one flip at a time. I do think H&V looks really good off an FK scum flip, since it makes that push on them for "TMI" look like scum fishing for an easy misexe.
How is it an easy mischop if BKs TMI read isn't widely shared? (Hint, it's not)
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caught up, fuck postcaps
agree w my partner here
agree w my partner here
I still feel worse about mana than falcon in a vacuum but falcon hasnt really done anything towny and this makes senseAkemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 10:01 am I'm talking myself into H&V town now which would make FK scum equity skyrocket.
[VOTE: FalconKnows] aubergine
We can easily clear H&V and semi-clear Mana off a red flip from this which would be pretty huge.
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Literally being scum read based off a TR of HV and being told "no, that's not why".
Yes it is, and it's silly. Ridiculous even.
Yes it is, and it's silly. Ridiculous even.
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You're being scum read for the slightly opportunistic vote and your reasoning behind it. It's not that ridiculous.FalconKnows wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 12:22 pm Literally being scum read based off a TR of HV and being told "no, that's not why".
Yes it is, and it's silly. Ridiculous even.
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Why was FK originally town read again? I had a quick skim of his ISO and I don't really see where that actually came from lol, like I remember liking one post of FK but I don't think the below holds much water as it once did.
TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 3:14 amAgreedPoop Explosions wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 8:26 pmFirst townie foundFalconKnows wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 8:24 pm if you're gonna sign of ur posts please don't do code names. keeping up on who's who is already confusing enough.
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It is. You're assuming HK is town. That's ridiculous.TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 12:32 pmYou're being scum read for the slightly opportunistic vote and your reasoning behind it. It's not that ridiculous.FalconKnows wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 12:22 pm Literally being scum read based off a TR of HV and being told "no, that's not why".
Yes it is, and it's silly. Ridiculous even.
BK read a post as having TMI. You don't have to agree with his reasoning, but to call it opportunistic when he made a legit read is disingenuous.
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cool derp clear attempt
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did esooa seriously post 0 times god dammit esooa i dont want to play another solo hydra game
anyway i rolecopped H&V as a JOAT or something
"forced to use it N1" honestly sounds fake but whatever
anyway i rolecopped H&V as a JOAT or something
"forced to use it N1" honestly sounds fake but whatever
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cool lieBottom Text wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 12:52 pm did esooa seriously post 0 times god dammit esooa i dont want to play another solo hydra game
anyway i rolecopped H&V as a JOAT or something
"forced to use it N1" honestly sounds fake but whatever
also H&V wasn't forced to use it
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my availability will be spotty for several hours and esooa is hopelessly addicted to minecraft
we're doomed
they said if thye didnt use it N1 they wouldnt be able to use it ever
same shit
im betting exactly one on it being a scum joat is all
we're doomed
whoa did katze just fake a cop checkTimsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 12:54 pmcool lieBottom Text wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 12:52 pm did esooa seriously post 0 times god dammit esooa i dont want to play another solo hydra game
anyway i rolecopped H&V as a JOAT or something
"forced to use it N1" honestly sounds fake but whatever
also H&V wasn't forced to use it
they said if thye didnt use it N1 they wouldnt be able to use it ever
same shit
im betting exactly one on it being a scum joat is all
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I don't agree with your TMI read on HV, and the timing of that push (right when people are questioning HV about their night action) seems opportunistic. Given how townread you were early I was expecting to see more solving and comfort, but you seem to be content coasting by D2, which concerns me.
And yes, my initial townread was the purity of Bo saying he was annoyed that he couldn't tell which hydra head was posting because I think town is a lot more likely to care about that than scum. That read fades over time if he gets scummier later on though.
And yes, my initial townread was the purity of Bo saying he was annoyed that he couldn't tell which hydra head was posting because I think town is a lot more likely to care about that than scum. That read fades over time if he gets scummier later on though.
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H&V is confirmed loverizer, where are you getting JOAT from?
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do you know what a joat is
call it a tinfoil, i call it a stroke of genius
my massive brain is setup speculating at least one wolf being a joat
call it a tinfoil, i call it a stroke of genius
my massive brain is setup speculating at least one wolf being a joat
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tempted to go full seth-mode and accuse you of being the wolf joat for voting me but i'd rather eat lunch and not commit war crimes, so
wolfy popout
wolfy popout
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The timing of it just stankFalconKnows wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 12:46 pmIt is. You're assuming HK is town. That's ridiculous.TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 12:32 pmYou're being scum read for the slightly opportunistic vote and your reasoning behind it. It's not that ridiculous.FalconKnows wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 12:22 pm Literally being scum read based off a TR of HV and being told "no, that's not why".
Yes it is, and it's silly. Ridiculous even.
BK read a post as having TMI. You don't have to agree with his reasoning, but to call it opportunistic when he made a legit read is disingenuous.
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maybe if you think there's any town utility in the roleBottom Text wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 12:55 pm
they said if thye didnt use it N1 they wouldnt be able to use it ever
same shit
which i don't, after thinking on it overnight
there's a reason why the wiki describes it as anti-town
if you are town and you randed a strictly anti-town ability, and it goes away if you don't use it, that doesn't mean "forced to use it," that means you just randed vanilla town
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is this how katze lolcats
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The fuck are you doing katze
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Anyone who thinks tihs is sus from katze and didn't have any issues with the rest of katze's play is bullshitting.
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ftr katze was incredibly wolfy in CoV. Thankfully for us they were mech cleared.
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katze: has a theory that makes sense in their head
everybody: whoa are you LOLCATTING what are YOU DOING
??????
if i was lolcatting (which, frankly, i do as either alignment and basically never actually give up) then i'd be posting cats of the non-emoji variety, probably specifically of the lolcat variety because i'm one of taste
pretty sure half the people calling me wolfy were wolves and the other half just kinda considered me low priority and/or left me to chloe to read while i just vibed in thread since i wasn't really able to put 100% into that game
in fact i was voted by exactly three villagers that game, one being myself, one being on D1, and the other being marmot to mess around; every other vote on me was nontown and i never reached above 2 votes
lol
everybody: whoa are you LOLCATTING what are YOU DOING
??????
if i was lolcatting (which, frankly, i do as either alignment and basically never actually give up) then i'd be posting cats of the non-emoji variety, probably specifically of the lolcat variety because i'm one of taste
preach thisPoop Explosions wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 1:07 pm Anyone who thinks tihs is sus from katze and didn't have any issues with the rest of katze's play is bullshitting.
i was?TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 1:10 pm ftr katze was incredibly wolfy in CoV. Thankfully for us they were mech cleared.
pretty sure half the people calling me wolfy were wolves and the other half just kinda considered me low priority and/or left me to chloe to read while i just vibed in thread since i wasn't really able to put 100% into that game
in fact i was voted by exactly three villagers that game, one being myself, one being on D1, and the other being marmot to mess around; every other vote on me was nontown and i never reached above 2 votes
lol
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correction: four, i missed youBottom Text wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 1:19 pm in fact i was voted by exactly three villagers that game, one being myself, one being on D1, and the other being marmot to mess around; every other vote on me was nontown and i never reached above 2 votes
this is purely out of spite:
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Wait, the timing of the read? He made the read shortly after the post was made, should he have waited?TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 1:03 pmThe timing of it just stankFalconKnows wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 12:46 pmIt is. You're assuming HK is town. That's ridiculous.TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 12:32 pmYou're being scum read for the slightly opportunistic vote and your reasoning behind it. It's not that ridiculous.FalconKnows wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 12:22 pm Literally being scum read based off a TR of HV and being told "no, that's not why".
Yes it is, and it's silly. Ridiculous even.
BK read a post as having TMI. You don't have to agree with his reasoning, but to call it opportunistic when he made a legit read is disingenuous.
Player's make reads when they read a post typically. I don't see how that's a factor whatsoever
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truth be told, i think their claim (and how they presented it) is very likely to be bullshit
truth be told, i think their claim (and how they presented it) is very likely to be bullshit
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so, one shot watcherMana wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 2:43 amI haven't caught up but we were a one-shot watcher and our watching failed last night (im assuming due to the redirect thing?)Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 12:15 am I am at the point where I just wanna sleepwalk flip mana
@Mana claim lol
you target your top town/the most likely NK
your action fails
you assume... redirection? why do you assume i'm even real? why do you assume nutella/alison is my X, and not someone else? i''ve made it clear i'm not saying who X is unless it's directly relevant or i'm about to die.
i honestly think a town roleblocker is more likely to target me, the actual CW (to be fair, Mana probably had a worse EoD, it's possible i'm wrong here), and i think mafia are more likely to roleblock the vig claim and kill elsewhere rather than kill the vig claim and roleblock elsewhere. maybe they killed/rbed. either way, vigs almost always shoot N1, you see a vig claim, you probably block that.
either way. i've never seen a situation where, if a watcher were forced to watch themselves, they'd fail solely for that.
so i see this claim and think that they're just trying to guess who i targeted, "confirm my action", and then bring me down with them when they flip
i, however, say no to that
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If Mana's action failed, why would they think a redirect would be responsible for that? Isn't the point of a redirect that the action doesn't fail?
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Wait disregard that completely
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? I called it out over a day ago and no one noticed so when I bring it up again it's opportunistic...TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 1:03 pmThe timing of it just stankFalconKnows wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 12:46 pmIt is. You're assuming HK is town. That's ridiculous.TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 12:32 pmYou're being scum read for the slightly opportunistic vote and your reasoning behind it. It's not that ridiculous.FalconKnows wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 12:22 pm Literally being scum read based off a TR of HV and being told "no, that's not why".
Yes it is, and it's silly. Ridiculous even.
BK read a post as having TMI. You don't have to agree with his reasoning, but to call it opportunistic when he made a legit read is disingenuous.
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FalconKnows wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 1:45 pm? I called it out over a day ago and no one noticed so when I bring it up again it's opportunistic...TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 1:03 pmThe timing of it just stankFalconKnows wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 12:46 pmIt is. You're assuming HK is town. That's ridiculous.TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 12:32 pmYou're being scum read for the slightly opportunistic vote and your reasoning behind it. It's not that ridiculous.FalconKnows wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 12:22 pm Literally being scum read based off a TR of HV and being told "no, that's not why".
Yes it is, and it's silly. Ridiculous even.
BK read a post as having TMI. You don't have to agree with his reasoning, but to call it opportunistic when he made a legit read is disingenuous.
As has already been said countless times before, the timing of it when H&V was getting pushed & when he was questioned on his choice of lovered up action didn't sit right with me.FalconKnows wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 1:21 pmWait, the timing of the read? He made the read shortly after the post was made, should he have waited?TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 1:03 pmThe timing of it just stankFalconKnows wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 12:46 pmIt is. You're assuming HK is town. That's ridiculous.TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 12:32 pmYou're being scum read for the slightly opportunistic vote and your reasoning behind it. It's not that ridiculous.FalconKnows wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 12:22 pm Literally being scum read based off a TR of HV and being told "no, that's not why".
Yes it is, and it's silly. Ridiculous even.
BK read a post as having TMI. You don't have to agree with his reasoning, but to call it opportunistic when he made a legit read is disingenuous.
Player's make reads when they read a post typically. I don't see how that's a factor whatsoever
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I'm reasonably sure there's at least one mafia in poop tr and bt
But they all seem independently townie to me
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But they all seem independently townie to me
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I also think from claim that mana is probably town, I dont want to get into why
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If I ordered it would probably be poop bt tr but
Ask me again in a few hours and that's probably reversed lol
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Tr > poop > bt
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how sheepable is this read
given i think the opposite
also i still think TR is a villager and have liked poop a decent bit more today so shrugze
could be v/v/v
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Watcher is a pretty pro-town role. Unfortunate that it ‘failed’ or whatever, but don’t think a mafia would lie about that it failed in that position
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Without knowing their target or yours i wouldn't push itBottom Text wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 1:54 pmhow sheepable is this read
given i think the opposite
also i still think TR is a villager and have liked poop a decent bit more today so shrugze
could be v/v/v
I'm very skeptical they're all three town. Its...not impossible, bit given what I'm aware of setup wise, i don't find it likely.
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Poop is obvious mafia
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