Modern Family Hydra Mafia [GAME END]

[Julinook]

So no objections to locking jules town right?

I have none!

[Toopy and Binoo]

I doubt H&V's a rolecop with that loverizing
I doubt H&V guessed our flavor out of thin air
Someone else rolecopped us and H&V saw the result despite not being a rolecop
H&V pushed us despite having a greencheck on us
Lmao

I'm not a rolecop, it's just equally obvious that phil is the janitor and that you're mafia.
Why tf would I, as mafia, claim a rolecop result inthread as mafia after loverizing town.
You're being disingenuous.

You know flavor isn't related to roles yeah

You hard claiming Mafia Flavour Cop?

[Toopy and Binoo]

-Tooopy

[Honey & Vinegar]

I doubt H&V's a rolecop with that loverizing
I doubt H&V guessed our flavor out of thin air
Someone else rolecopped us and H&V saw the result despite not being a rolecop
H&V pushed us despite having a greencheck on us
Lmao

I'm not a rolecop, it's just equally obvious that phil is the janitor and that you're mafia.
Why tf would I, as mafia, claim a rolecop result inthread as mafia after loverizing town.
You're being disingenuous.

H&V -

Can you clear up for me why you think Phil is the janitor? In the OP dunya states:

Character claiming is also legal as all characters were randomized separately from roles!

To me this means there is no link between the character and the role, so Phil being a magician has no bearing on what role they are. Given this, what makes you link them together? Maybe I'm just missing something.

I'm manny, a loverizer who loves loving, so obviously dunya is full of shit lmao. My character and role are too perfect together for it to be "randomized".

[Honey & Vinegar]

Why would you ever lover a townread and not a scumread?

Surely the correct play is to loverize someone in the POE so you get a free red flip if you ever die?

The correct play is actually to not use the role.
Second-best is to use it on someone you think won't die for any reason regardless of their alignment.

Why did you use it then?

I'm tired of being the only townie not gamethrowing with bad mech plays clearly

[Honey & Vinegar]

Does anyone actually think that townpoop comes out and claims bodyguard for no reason?

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

Huh?

[Honey & Vinegar]

Btw I tied the vote at 4-4 with 2 seconds left on the clock so it's highly unlikely that the janitor is anything other than a passive scum ability.

[Poop Explosions]

So Urist's town again I guess.

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

Maybe dunya meant characters are randomized in alignment?

[FalconKnows]

[VOTE: hv] aubergine

[Poop Explosions]

What if Bo's just a wolf

[Julinook]

I doubt H&V's a rolecop with that loverizing
I doubt H&V guessed our flavor out of thin air
Someone else rolecopped us and H&V saw the result despite not being a rolecop
H&V pushed us despite having a greencheck on us
Lmao

I'm not a rolecop, it's just equally obvious that phil is the janitor and that you're mafia.
Why tf would I, as mafia, claim a rolecop result inthread as mafia after loverizing town.
You're being disingenuous.

H&V -

Can you clear up for me why you think Phil is the janitor? In the OP dunya states:

Character claiming is also legal as all characters were randomized separately from roles!

To me this means there is no link between the character and the role, so Phil being a magician has no bearing on what role they are. Given this, what makes you link them together? Maybe I'm just missing something.

I'm manny, a loverizer who loves loving, so obviously dunya is full of shit lmao. My character and role are too perfect together for it to be "randomized".

Idt Dunia is the lie to her players kind of gm

Although my role is fairly thematic ig so idk

[FalconKnows]

I read somethings from them that seemed a little TMI-ish

[FalconKnows]

What if Bo's just a wolf

that would be cool ngl

[FalconKnows]

Hey all, what did I mis

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

Btw I tied the vote at 4-4 with 2 seconds left on the clock so it's highly unlikely that the janitor is anything other than a passive scum ability.

I wish you had put your vote in the thread but this does make sense I guess

[FalconKnows]

What if Bo's just a wolf

Impossible, I would've heard about it

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

Can't say im a fan of H&V's response in their reasoning of using the role at all tbh

[FalconKnows]

Hey all, what did I mis

a wild falcon has appeared

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

I read somethings from them that seemed a little TMI-ish

Ok, what is it?

[FalconKnows]

I read somethings from them that seemed a little TMI-ish

Ok, what is it?

gotta go through my iso and find it. brb

[Honey & Vinegar]

We are talking in circles. I just want to hear H&V's full claim and explanation for their loverizer target at this point.

@Honey & Vinegar

likely nk targets
1. Akemi Hazelnut (Alison & nutella) - nk'd probably
5. Julinook (juliets & NANOOK)
12. trans rights (vanity & Mistyx)

likely tk targets
2. Bottom Text (Esooa & katze)
8. The Walrus (fingersplints & Roxy)
10. TonyStarkPlaysItCool (TonyStarkPrime & Justplayingitcool)

likely scum
3. FalconKnows (falcon45ca & BoKnows)
7. Poop Explosions (c4e5g3d5 & MacDougall)

likely to do something idiotic
11. Toopy and Binoo (Gavial & Spak)
in hindsight i would put syn & hyena in this category

decent options
6. Mana (Made & Dana)
9. Timsup2gettinserious (Syn & Hyena)

In the end I wanted Mana and mantis wanted tim. I decided to go with what she wanted because I wanted her to feel more engaged. Guess that's not working out either lollll kill me

[Akemi Hazelnut]

The loverizer not taking place the night it's submitted does go some way towards explaining why it wasn't used as a vig shot, but I don't understand why Tim is the townread that was most unlikely to die from your point of view.

[FalconKnows]

Two & through could have been n0 janitor'd or something.
Or d1 janitored when they were a big wagon.
Also possible they were a wolf with a passive self janitor yeah.
I don't think we should play as if he was obv a wolf.

why did I read this as tmi

This seems weird to suggest. Almost like they know something we don;t

[Akemi Hazelnut]

That list is bizarre. Why is Mana not a likely TK target? Why is Poop/FK scum?

Also if all the targets are so unpalatable why not just hold your shot?

[FalconKnows]

We are talking in circles. I just want to hear H&V's full claim and explanation for their loverizer target at this point.

@Honey & Vinegar

likely nk targets
1. Akemi Hazelnut (Alison & nutella) - nk'd probably
5. Julinook (juliets & NANOOK)
12. trans rights (vanity & Mistyx)

likely tk targets
2. Bottom Text (Esooa & katze)
8. The Walrus (fingersplints & Roxy)
10. TonyStarkPlaysItCool (TonyStarkPrime & Justplayingitcool)

likely scum
3. FalconKnows (falcon45ca & BoKnows)
7. Poop Explosions (c4e5g3d5 & MacDougall)

likely to do something idiotic
11. Toopy and Binoo (Gavial & Spak)
in hindsight i would put syn & hyena in this category

decent options
6. Mana (Made & Dana)
9. Timsup2gettinserious (Syn & Hyena)

In the end I wanted Mana and mantis wanted tim. I decided to go with what she wanted because I wanted her to feel more engaged. Guess that's not working out either lollll kill me

@Poop Explosions howdy partners

[Honey & Vinegar]

I doubt H&V's a rolecop with that loverizing
I doubt H&V guessed our flavor out of thin air
Someone else rolecopped us and H&V saw the result despite not being a rolecop
H&V pushed us despite having a greencheck on us
Lmao

I'm not a rolecop, it's just equally obvious that phil is the janitor and that you're mafia.
Why tf would I, as mafia, claim a rolecop result inthread as mafia after loverizing town.
You're being disingenuous.

H&V -

Can you clear up for me why you think Phil is the janitor? In the OP dunya states:

Character claiming is also legal as all characters were randomized separately from roles!

To me this means there is no link between the character and the role, so Phil being a magician has no bearing on what role they are. Given this, what makes you link them together? Maybe I'm just missing something.

I'm manny, a loverizer who loves loving, so obviously dunya is full of shit lmao. My character and role are too perfect together for it to be "randomized".

Idt Dunia is the lie to her players kind of gm

Although my role is fairly thematic ig so idk

I think tspic is correct that she meant *alignment* not ability.

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

Why on earth does that read as tmi? It doesn’t seem that unreasonable

[FalconKnows]

Why on earth does that read as tmi? It doesn’t seem that unreasonable

because it just does to me

[Julinook]

I doubt H&V's a rolecop with that loverizing
I doubt H&V guessed our flavor out of thin air
Someone else rolecopped us and H&V saw the result despite not being a rolecop
H&V pushed us despite having a greencheck on us
Lmao

I'm not a rolecop, it's just equally obvious that phil is the janitor and that you're mafia.
Why tf would I, as mafia, claim a rolecop result inthread as mafia after loverizing town.
You're being disingenuous.

H&V -

Can you clear up for me why you think Phil is the janitor? In the OP dunya states:

Character claiming is also legal as all characters were randomized separately from roles!

To me this means there is no link between the character and the role, so Phil being a magician has no bearing on what role they are. Given this, what makes you link them together? Maybe I'm just missing something.

I'm manny, a loverizer who loves loving, so obviously dunya is full of shit lmao. My character and role are too perfect together for it to be "randomized".

Idt Dunia is the lie to her players kind of gm

Although my role is fairly thematic ig so idk

I think tspic is correct that she meant *alignment* not ability.

It seems clear to me but ok

[FalconKnows]

maybe im just paranoid

[Honey & Vinegar]

That list is bizarre. Why is Mana not a likely TK target? Why is Poop/FK scum?

Also if all the targets are so unpalatable why not just hold your shot?

if we didn't use the shot n1 we lost it
it's really a trash tier role

[Honey & Vinegar]

also not sure if you want me to apologize for my reads being different from yours
but it isn't going to happen sorry

[Julinook]

We are talking in circles. I just want to hear H&V's full claim and explanation for their loverizer target at this point.

@Honey & Vinegar

1. Akemi Hazelnut (Alison & nutella) - nk'd probably

Explain plz

[Honey & Vinegar]

Two & through could have been n0 janitor'd or something.
Or d1 janitored when they were a big wagon.
Also possible they were a wolf with a passive self janitor yeah.
I don't think we should play as if he was obv a wolf.

why did I read this as tmi

This seems weird to suggest. Almost like they know something we don;t

[VOTE: falconknows] aubergine

[FalconKnows]

Two & through could have been n0 janitor'd or something.
Or d1 janitored when they were a big wagon.
Also possible they were a wolf with a passive self janitor yeah.
I don't think we should play as if he was obv a wolf.

why did I read this as tmi

This seems weird to suggest. Almost like they know something we don;t

[VOTE: falconknows] aubergine

trying to silence our brilliance

[Honey & Vinegar]

We are talking in circles. I just want to hear H&V's full claim and explanation for their loverizer target at this point.

@Honey & Vinegar

1. Akemi Hazelnut (Alison & nutella) - nk'd probably

Explain plz

typo, i was going to write stuff beside everyone in the list but then decided to organize it in categories instead. i forgot to delete that.

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

I think a passive self janitor makes the most sense tbh

[FalconKnows]

Two & through could have been n0 janitor'd or something.
Or d1 janitored when they were a big wagon.
Also possible they were a wolf with a passive self janitor yeah.
I don't think we should play as if he was obv a wolf.

why did I read this as tmi

This seems weird to suggest. Almost like they know something we don;t

[VOTE: falconknows] aubergine

OMGUS is a good look for you

[Honey & Vinegar]

although i did think it most likely that akemi would die bc they were obvtown and posting lots and i also forgot that walrus claimed vig

[FalconKnows]

We are talking in circles. I just want to hear H&V's full claim and explanation for their loverizer target at this point.

@Honey & Vinegar

1. Akemi Hazelnut (Alison & nutella) - nk'd probably

Explain plz

typo, i was going to write stuff beside everyone in the list but then decided to organize it in categories instead. i forgot to delete that.

Editing your posts eh? Never seen scum do that before...

[Julinook]

We are talking in circles. I just want to hear H&V's full claim and explanation for their loverizer target at this point.

@Honey & Vinegar

1. Akemi Hazelnut (Alison & nutella) - nk'd probably

Explain plz

typo, i was going to write stuff beside everyone in the list but then decided to organize it in categories instead. i forgot to delete that.

That doesn't explain why it was a thought in the first place lol

[Julinook]

Oh I see

I thought it was a current thought not a n1 thought

Nvm carry on

[Honey & Vinegar]

We are talking in circles. I just want to hear H&V's full claim and explanation for their loverizer target at this point.

@Honey & Vinegar

1. Akemi Hazelnut (Alison & nutella) - nk'd probably

Explain plz

typo, i was going to write stuff beside everyone in the list but then decided to organize it in categories instead. i forgot to delete that.

Editing your posts eh? Never seen scum do that before...

4 more votes folks

[Akemi Hazelnut]

also not sure if you want me to apologize for my reads being different from yours
but it isn't going to happen sorry

Mana being a likely TK target is not about reads it's just an objective observation of the threadstate.

So you're a one shot loverizer that has to be used on night one? Any other aspects of your role?

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

Ok but i still don’t really get why you targeted them. What was the thought process in the pick

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

FK seems a bit opportunistic tbh

[Julinook]

Ok but i still don’t really get why you targeted them. What was the thought process in the pick

Didn't he literally just go through his thought process

[Honey & Vinegar]

also not sure if you want me to apologize for my reads being different from yours
but it isn't going to happen sorry

Mana being a likely TK target is not about reads it's just an objective observation of the threadstate.

So you're a one shot loverizer that has to be used on night one? Any other aspects of your role?

nope