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Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

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Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

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Bottom Text wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:02 pm
TwoAndThrough wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:00 pm
Akemi Hazelnut wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:57 pm
TwoAndThrough wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:56 pm
Akemi Hazelnut wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:55 pm I don't know what the cases on Poop and BT are. I have legit reasons to scumread TAT. Those three seem like the only wagons with any momentum so since we are 1 hour from EOD I am probably going to votepark on TAT.
One, four, okay, who's counting?
Don't split hairs please. Poop Explosions went up to 3 earlier so there is clearly some interest in that wagon and you know that is what I meant.
I was just laughing at the time zone thing.

As to your vote, what happened to "you know you can't read me and I know I can't read you so wait until day three and if there are no pelts we just kill each other"? All of a sudden you want to claim a day one read on me? Has being in hydra chat with Nutella damaged you?
i formally retract any non-scum read i have on you

what the fuck
For laughing at a time error I am suddenly a scum? WTF?
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Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

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voting tspic for now
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Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

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TwoAndThrough wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:00 pm I was just laughing at the time zone thing.

As to your vote, what happened to "you know you can't read me and I know I can't read you so wait until day three and if there are no pelts we just kill each other"? All of a sudden you want to claim a day one read on me? Has being in hydra chat with Nutella damaged you?
Didn't we just get off a game where we thunderdomed D1? I pushed you D1 in COV too.

I mean I accept that you're not easy to read and that if I can't get a solid lock on you I'm going to chill and watch your results. But if I see you do something scummy I'm not just going to turn a blind eye because it's D1 and it's astounding you would expect me of all people to do so.
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Alison wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:05 pm
TwoAndThrough wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:00 pm I was just laughing at the time zone thing.

As to your vote, what happened to "you know you can't read me and I know I can't read you so wait until day three and if there are no pelts we just kill each other"? All of a sudden you want to claim a day one read on me? Has being in hydra chat with Nutella damaged you?
Didn't we just get off a game where we thunderdomed D1? I pushed you D1 in COV too.

I mean I accept that you're not easy to read and that if I can't get a solid lock on you I'm going to chill and watch your results. But if I see you do something scummy I'm not just going to turn a blind eye because it's D1 and it's astounding you would expect me of all people to do so.
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Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

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TwoAndThrough wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:04 pm
Bottom Text wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:02 pm
TwoAndThrough wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:00 pm
Akemi Hazelnut wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:57 pm
TwoAndThrough wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:56 pm
Akemi Hazelnut wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:55 pm I don't know what the cases on Poop and BT are. I have legit reasons to scumread TAT. Those three seem like the only wagons with any momentum so since we are 1 hour from EOD I am probably going to votepark on TAT.
One, four, okay, who's counting?
Don't split hairs please. Poop Explosions went up to 3 earlier so there is clearly some interest in that wagon and you know that is what I meant.
I was just laughing at the time zone thing.

As to your vote, what happened to "you know you can't read me and I know I can't read you so wait until day three and if there are no pelts we just kill each other"? All of a sudden you want to claim a day one read on me? Has being in hydra chat with Nutella damaged you?
i formally retract any non-scum read i have on you

what the fuck
For laughing at a time error I am suddenly a scum? WTF?
yes

definitely not the second line that reeks of all kinds of strawmanning and ad homineming bullshit

it's certainly the fact that you teased her over mixing up times

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Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

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Honey & Vinegar wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:04 pm voting tspic for now
What's your case on TSPIC?
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Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

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Alison wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:05 pm
TwoAndThrough wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:00 pm I was just laughing at the time zone thing.

As to your vote, what happened to "you know you can't read me and I know I can't read you so wait until day three and if there are no pelts we just kill each other"? All of a sudden you want to claim a day one read on me? Has being in hydra chat with Nutella damaged you?
Didn't we just get off a game where we thunderdomed D1? I pushed you D1 in COV too.

I mean I accept that you're not easy to read and that if I can't get a solid lock on you I'm going to chill and watch your results. But if I see you do something scummy I'm not just going to turn a blind eye because it's D1 and it's astounding you would expect me of all people to do so.
is this a nutella or alison post

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Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

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Bottom Text wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:05 pm yes

definitely not the second line that reeks of all kinds of strawmanning and ad homineming bullshit

it's certainly the fact that you teased her over mixing up times

gottem
To be fair to Tim this is the kind of thing he'd write as town.

It's also the kind of thing he'd write as scum though so it doesn't change my opinion of him at all. I'm scumreading him for the weird triangle vote stuff and waffling on who the scum on his wagon was.
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Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

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Akemi Hazelnut wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:07 pm
Honey & Vinegar wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:04 pm voting tspic for now
What's your case on TSPIC?
they have a lot of posts that are asking meaningless questions. also the "we can talk in btsc" thing is suspect. in general they appear to be looking busy.
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Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

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They have been kind of under my radar to be honest. I haven't taken much notice of them.
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also i haven't read pages ~10 to ~20 and mantis hasn't read pages ~2 to ~20 so ymmv on our reads for now
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Akemi Hazelnut wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:10 pm They have been kind of under my radar to be honest. I haven't taken much notice of them.
seems like a great reason to vote for them honestly
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Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

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Akemi Hazelnut wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:08 pm
Bottom Text wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:05 pm yes

definitely not the second line that reeks of all kinds of strawmanning and ad homineming bullshit

it's certainly the fact that you teased her over mixing up times

gottem
To be fair to Tim this is the kind of thing he'd write as town.

It's also the kind of thing he'd write as scum though so it doesn't change my opinion of him at all. I'm scumreading him for the weird triangle vote stuff and waffling on who the scum on his wagon was.
blink blink

noted, i guess

i formally partially unretract that retraction but it's still a yucky post
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Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

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I am leafing through their ISO. I actually see your point about a bunch of meaningless questions.
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Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

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julinook top candidate for tspic's partner

current solve is tspic - julinook - falconknows
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Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

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I am also bothered by the "we can speak outside the thread?" derpclear thing. I'm not convinced JPIC legitimately doesn't know this given that the whole point of a hydra is to have multiple players working together behind one account. I also find it strange that TSP sent him 0 messages so far. I don't think it's JPIC's style to fake a derpclear but TSP might. Or a wolf partner might tell them to do it.
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Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

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Bottom Text wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:02 pm
TwoAndThrough wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:00 pm
Akemi Hazelnut wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:57 pm
TwoAndThrough wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:56 pm
Akemi Hazelnut wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:55 pm I don't know what the cases on Poop and BT are. I have legit reasons to scumread TAT. Those three seem like the only wagons with any momentum so since we are 1 hour from EOD I am probably going to votepark on TAT.
One, four, okay, who's counting?
Don't split hairs please. Poop Explosions went up to 3 earlier so there is clearly some interest in that wagon and you know that is what I meant.
I was just laughing at the time zone thing.

As to your vote, what happened to "you know you can't read me and I know I can't read you so wait until day three and if there are no pelts we just kill each other"? All of a sudden you want to claim a day one read on me? Has being in hydra chat with Nutella damaged you?
i formally retract any non-scum read i have on you

what the fuck
i want to call this post scummy despite the fact that i have literally zero actual problems with the take

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I think FalconKnows is townie still. I have a good read accuracy on falcon historically.
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Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

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Honey & Vinegar wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:13 pm julinook top candidate for tspic's partner

current solve is tspic - julinook - falconknows
i have understood about 0% of your slot's thought process

can you talk w/ me about your solve more or is that a me problem

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Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

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trans rights wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:14 pm
Bottom Text wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:02 pm
TwoAndThrough wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:00 pm
Akemi Hazelnut wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:57 pm
TwoAndThrough wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:56 pm
Akemi Hazelnut wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:55 pm I don't know what the cases on Poop and BT are. I have legit reasons to scumread TAT. Those three seem like the only wagons with any momentum so since we are 1 hour from EOD I am probably going to votepark on TAT.
One, four, okay, who's counting?
Don't split hairs please. Poop Explosions went up to 3 earlier so there is clearly some interest in that wagon and you know that is what I meant.
I was just laughing at the time zone thing.

As to your vote, what happened to "you know you can't read me and I know I can't read you so wait until day three and if there are no pelts we just kill each other"? All of a sudden you want to claim a day one read on me? Has being in hydra chat with Nutella damaged you?
i formally retract any non-scum read i have on you

what the fuck
i want to call this post scummy despite the fact that i have literally zero actual problems with the take

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then do it

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Bottom Text wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:16 pm
trans rights wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:14 pm
Bottom Text wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:02 pm
TwoAndThrough wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:00 pm
Akemi Hazelnut wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:57 pm
TwoAndThrough wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:56 pm
Akemi Hazelnut wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:55 pm I don't know what the cases on Poop and BT are. I have legit reasons to scumread TAT. Those three seem like the only wagons with any momentum so since we are 1 hour from EOD I am probably going to votepark on TAT.
One, four, okay, who's counting?
Don't split hairs please. Poop Explosions went up to 3 earlier so there is clearly some interest in that wagon and you know that is what I meant.
I was just laughing at the time zone thing.

As to your vote, what happened to "you know you can't read me and I know I can't read you so wait until day three and if there are no pelts we just kill each other"? All of a sudden you want to claim a day one read on me? Has being in hydra chat with Nutella damaged you?
i formally retract any non-scum read i have on you

what the fuck
i want to call this post scummy despite the fact that i have literally zero actual problems with the take

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then do it

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would it be a safe assumption that this is a different head than the one that posted the other take

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Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

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trans rights wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:16 pm
Honey & Vinegar wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:13 pm julinook top candidate for tspic's partner

current solve is tspic - julinook - falconknows
i have understood about 0% of your slot's thought process

can you talk w/ me about your solve more or is that a me problem

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trans rights wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:17 pm
Bottom Text wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:16 pm
trans rights wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:14 pm
Bottom Text wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:02 pm
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TwoAndThrough wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:56 pm

One, four, okay, who's counting?
Don't split hairs please. Poop Explosions went up to 3 earlier so there is clearly some interest in that wagon and you know that is what I meant.
I was just laughing at the time zone thing.

As to your vote, what happened to "you know you can't read me and I know I can't read you so wait until day three and if there are no pelts we just kill each other"? All of a sudden you want to claim a day one read on me? Has being in hydra chat with Nutella damaged you?
i formally retract any non-scum read i have on you

what the fuck
i want to call this post scummy despite the fact that i have literally zero actual problems with the take

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then do it

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would it be a safe assumption that this is a different head than the one that posted the other take

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it would be unsafe and you would get critted and lose 45 hitpoints
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Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

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Honey & Vinegar wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:18 pm
trans rights wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:16 pm
Honey & Vinegar wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:13 pm julinook top candidate for tspic's partner

current solve is tspic - julinook - falconknows
i have understood about 0% of your slot's thought process

can you talk w/ me about your solve more or is that a me problem

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ok scum is tspic - julinook - trans rights
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someone tell me why tspic's iso isn't just a wolf iso

on one hand, you have jpic, who gave townreads on my word salad, mildly liked tim's vote triangulation read, yet reversed it for "not really substantiated" reasons, and also disagrees with tsp regarding mana making a bad read making mana a villager. it's all within the boilerplate realm of a reasonable wolf. none of these reads are particularly nuanced, they're all just really shallow observations that a wolf can make by just using basically comprehension skills. these are not reads with visibly demonstrated thought process. it almost feels like some of his reads are only shifting with the thread climate. bottom text votes two and through? guess two and through can be a wolf. jpic's pushback to tsp's mana read also feels like contrived, as if it only exists to serve as hydra dissonance and nothing more.

it also sorta feels like when i'm reading jpic's posts that i'm getting this feeling of a person sitting in a chair in a poised position, adjusting their glasses, and then saying their thoughts in the most sophisticated and supercilious tone possible.

then you have tsp. none of his posts feel believable whatsoever. his bottom text read came out of complete thin air, he voted them, and it was never justified anywhere there's just this callousness to tsp's posts, as if caution was completely thrown to the wind. and yes, in certain senses not caring about how you look can be villagery. i'm not necessarily wolfreading the dynamics between the hydra, because that's more personality indicative than anything else. however, i'm getting the feeling that jpic is wolfy, and tsp is just being tsp.

what is similar about both of their games is that both of them are completely irrelevant. there's no feeling for either of these slots to be particularly up and center, and their game isn't sovling oriented or pushing oriented. i do get that for tsp, this might not be super ai. i've seen games where he's been a bit more of a nonpresence and getting wolfread as a result. well, specifically inception where he got vigged. but both of these slots are worthy of getting voted for different reasons.
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Honey & Vinegar wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:18 pm
trans rights wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:16 pm
Honey & Vinegar wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:13 pm julinook top candidate for tspic's partner

current solve is tspic - julinook - falconknows
i have understood about 0% of your slot's thought process

can you talk w/ me about your solve more or is that a me problem

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ok scum is tspic - julinook - trans rights
good talk

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Honey & Vinegar wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:18 pm
trans rights wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:16 pm
Honey & Vinegar wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:13 pm julinook top candidate for tspic's partner

current solve is tspic - julinook - falconknows
i have understood about 0% of your slot's thought process

can you talk w/ me about your solve more or is that a me problem

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hi vanity

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trans rights wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:19 pm someone tell me why tspic's iso isn't just a wolf iso

on one hand, you have jpic, who gave townreads on my word salad, mildly liked tim's vote triangulation read, yet reversed it for "not really substantiated" reasons, and also disagrees with tsp regarding mana making a bad read making mana a villager. it's all within the boilerplate realm of a reasonable wolf. none of these reads are particularly nuanced, they're all just really shallow observations that a wolf can make by just using basically comprehension skills. these are not reads with visibly demonstrated thought process. it almost feels like some of his reads are only shifting with the thread climate. bottom text votes two and through? guess two and through can be a wolf. jpic's pushback to tsp's mana read also feels like contrived, as if it only exists to serve as hydra dissonance and nothing more.

it also sorta feels like when i'm reading jpic's posts that i'm getting this feeling of a person sitting in a chair in a poised position, adjusting their glasses, and then saying their thoughts in the most sophisticated and supercilious tone possible.

then you have tsp. none of his posts feel believable whatsoever. his bottom text read came out of complete thin air, he voted them, and it was never justified anywhere there's just this callousness to tsp's posts, as if caution was completely thrown to the wind. and yes, in certain senses not caring about how you look can be villagery. i'm not necessarily wolfreading the dynamics between the hydra, because that's more personality indicative than anything else. however, i'm getting the feeling that jpic is wolfy, and tsp is just being tsp.

what is similar about both of their games is that both of them are completely irrelevant. there's no feeling for either of these slots to be particularly up and center, and their game isn't sovling oriented or pushing oriented. i do get that for tsp, this might not be super ai. i've seen games where he's been a bit more of a nonpresence and getting wolfread as a result. well, specifically inception where he got vigged. but both of these slots are worthy of getting voted for different reasons.
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Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

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I will probably not be around for EOD.

My top scumread is still TAT and the best defense I've heard so far of them is "they're curmudgeonly" or "they have townie rage". I'd be shocked if Tim couldn't fake those things to some degree so it's not a compelling defense. I like FalconKnows, Julinook, trans rights, Honey & Vinegar and Timsup2gettinserious for town. The Walrus (this one is a gut read) and Bottom Text lesser townleans.

I townread Poop Explosions on tone but aren't a fan of their attack on trans rights, and they go into the mixed bucket for me. I think trans rights is townie and it also feels like a chainsaw defense of TAT.

I scumread Mana and TSPIC. They're the only slots I would consider voting other than TAT.
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Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

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trans rights wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:19 pm someone tell me why tspic's iso isn't just a wolf iso

on one hand, you have jpic, who gave townreads on my word salad, mildly liked tim's vote triangulation read, yet reversed it for "not really substantiated" reasons, and also disagrees with tsp regarding mana making a bad read making mana a villager. it's all within the boilerplate realm of a reasonable wolf. none of these reads are particularly nuanced, they're all just really shallow observations that a wolf can make by just using basically comprehension skills. these are not reads with visibly demonstrated thought process. it almost feels like some of his reads are only shifting with the thread climate. bottom text votes two and through? guess two and through can be a wolf. jpic's pushback to tsp's mana read also feels like contrived, as if it only exists to serve as hydra dissonance and nothing more.
A bit insulting but okay
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Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

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There are people townreading Mana. Can one of those people give me a reason other than "they had a spicy take on FK"? Because I pointed out that having an against-the-grain take could easily come from an out of touch wolf.
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Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

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Akemi Hazelnut wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:22 pm I will probably not be around for EOD.

My top scumread is still TAT and the best defense I've heard so far of them is "they're curmudgeonly" or "they have townie rage". I'd be shocked if Tim couldn't fake those things to some degree so it's not a compelling defense. I like FalconKnows, Julinook, trans rights, Honey & Vinegar and Timsup2gettinserious for town. The Walrus (this one is a gut read) and Bottom Text lesser townleans.

I townread Poop Explosions on tone but aren't a fan of their attack on trans rights, and they go into the mixed bucket for me. I think trans rights is townie and it also feels like a chainsaw defense of TAT.

I scumread Mana and TSPIC. They're the only slots I would consider voting other than TAT.
you... you wolfread tspic?
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Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

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TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 1:32 pm
The Walrus wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 1:30 pm
Akemi Hazelnut wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 12:58 pm
TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 12:57 pm
Julinook wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 12:56 pm Wait actually

Hasn't tsp hydraed before
this is jpic
right but hes assuming tsp wouldve dmed you stuff by now

but tbh im not sure tsp ever has either
We have both never played hydra before and just assumed you could talk to your partner. :shrug2:
:shrug2:

Good for you
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Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

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Akemi Hazelnut wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:08 pm
Bottom Text wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:05 pm yes

definitely not the second line that reeks of all kinds of strawmanning and ad homineming bullshit

it's certainly the fact that you teased her over mixing up times

gottem
To be fair to Tim this is the kind of thing he'd write as town.

It's also the kind of thing he'd write as scum though so it doesn't change my opinion of him at all. I'm scumreading him for the weird triangle vote stuff and waffling on who the scum on his wagon was.
I answered who the scum on the wagon was. I didn't give you Alison style death tunnel snap reads, but I gave first impressions at the time and then continued investigation until I had what I considered fairly solid results and posted those too.
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Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

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TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:23 pm
trans rights wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:19 pm someone tell me why tspic's iso isn't just a wolf iso

on one hand, you have jpic, who gave townreads on my word salad, mildly liked tim's vote triangulation read, yet reversed it for "not really substantiated" reasons, and also disagrees with tsp regarding mana making a bad read making mana a villager. it's all within the boilerplate realm of a reasonable wolf. none of these reads are particularly nuanced, they're all just really shallow observations that a wolf can make by just using basically comprehension skills. these are not reads with visibly demonstrated thought process. it almost feels like some of his reads are only shifting with the thread climate. bottom text votes two and through? guess two and through can be a wolf. jpic's pushback to tsp's mana read also feels like contrived, as if it only exists to serve as hydra dissonance and nothing more.
A bit insulting but okay
in what way? can you demonstrate how your reads are nuanced if that's the implication?
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Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

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trans rights wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:23 pm
Akemi Hazelnut wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:22 pm I will probably not be around for EOD.

My top scumread is still TAT and the best defense I've heard so far of them is "they're curmudgeonly" or "they have townie rage". I'd be shocked if Tim couldn't fake those things to some degree so it's not a compelling defense. I like FalconKnows, Julinook, trans rights, Honey & Vinegar and Timsup2gettinserious for town. The Walrus (this one is a gut read) and Bottom Text lesser townleans.

I townread Poop Explosions on tone but aren't a fan of their attack on trans rights, and they go into the mixed bucket for me. I think trans rights is townie and it also feels like a chainsaw defense of TAT.

I scumread Mana and TSPIC. They're the only slots I would consider voting other than TAT.
you... you wolfread tspic?
Yes. I was null on them, then H&V made a case, I read the case, I read TSPIC's ISO, and it made sense to me.

I wrote my thoughts about my ISO a few posts ago but essentially the "derpclear" seems artificial and requires some pretty unlikely coincidences to be real, and I'm in agreement with H&V's take that they spend a lot of time asking meaningless busywork questions with no followup or genuine interest.
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Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

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Akemi Hazelnut wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:23 pm There are people townreading Mana. Can one of those people give me a reason other than "they had a spicy take on FK"? Because I pointed out that having an against-the-grain take could easily come from an out of touch wolf.
they had an against-the-grain take in a way that indicated they cared more about solving the slot than keeping themselves alive

i just overall liked the way they reentered thread after they got votes

i'm not really sure how to articulate it

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Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

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yeah okay i see the interaction looking back. the interaction between you and honey and villager looks decent.
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Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

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clearly im the competent one here

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trans rights wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:26 pm they had an against-the-grain take in a way that indicated they cared more about solving the slot than keeping themselves alive
What struck you as demonstrating genuine curiosity about the slot?
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Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

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trans rights wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:24 pm
TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:23 pm
trans rights wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:19 pm someone tell me why tspic's iso isn't just a wolf iso

on one hand, you have jpic, who gave townreads on my word salad, mildly liked tim's vote triangulation read, yet reversed it for "not really substantiated" reasons, and also disagrees with tsp regarding mana making a bad read making mana a villager. it's all within the boilerplate realm of a reasonable wolf. none of these reads are particularly nuanced, they're all just really shallow observations that a wolf can make by just using basically comprehension skills. these are not reads with visibly demonstrated thought process. it almost feels like some of his reads are only shifting with the thread climate. bottom text votes two and through? guess two and through can be a wolf. jpic's pushback to tsp's mana read also feels like contrived, as if it only exists to serve as hydra dissonance and nothing more.
A bit insulting but okay
in what way? can you demonstrate how your reads are nuanced if that's the implication?
I just think the "visibly demonstrated thought process" is a bit rude.

I was wolf reading T&T, but then he fully embraced the meta. His pushback really doesn't feel faked, or as if he is trying to play up to that meta at all. It gets really hard to fake as the game goes along so at the moment I am fine with their slot at the moment. I don't know what more substantial reasons you're looking for at the moment.
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Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

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Akemi Hazelnut wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:27 pm
trans rights wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:26 pm they had an against-the-grain take in a way that indicated they cared more about solving the slot than keeping themselves alive
What struck you as demonstrating genuine curiosity about the slot?
the flip from "oh we're being wagoned" to "anyway this is our take"

i think a wolf either goes the angle of focusing more on the wagon or not acknowledging it and continuing to solve

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Also, how is me starting to townread T&T going along with the thread climate?
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Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

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trans rights wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:29 pm
Akemi Hazelnut wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:27 pm
trans rights wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:26 pm they had an against-the-grain take in a way that indicated they cared more about solving the slot than keeping themselves alive
What struck you as demonstrating genuine curiosity about the slot?
the flip from "oh we're being wagoned" to "anyway this is our take"

i think a wolf either goes the angle of focusing more on the wagon or not acknowledging it and continuing to solve

~ninetales
okay
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Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

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TSPIC are you claiming you don't want to exe TAT D1 because they self resolve?
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@TwoAndThrough what's your read on TSPIC?
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Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

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I don't know why people find it unreasonable that someone who has never done a hydra before would not know chats outside of the game thread are a thing. From what I can see, there is nothing mentioned in the OP nor was anything said in our role pm.
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