Beelzebub The Benign scum win

[Gavial]

We have a free chance today but the final decision tommoe.

[Urist]

Also falcon is scum too for claiming that dunya visited him. For him to do that, Samu would have to be his partner who prob got the gun from dunya

K.
Samu is probably still mafia despite having a gun somehow. Pls execute him after I flip.

Wtf dude you are the mafia.

I'm town and if you're town as well then you seriously need to reconsider the way you play the game and form reads. Not everyone who suspects you is automatically scum.

Well, humm i have to say to you something.

I dont have a gun but i like this reaction, you are town lock despite of being thoughtless.

I just do this cause I couldn't believe that actually your case against me was legitimate so I came up with this and catch you at a time when you were online to see how you would react, this is what I call a shit test.

Now I know that even if you want to ML me you are town and that no one here is going to be able to recriminate you said lynch.

And no, I don't suspect the one who suspects me, there's a reason I didn't vote you and I've been saying all day that today's lynch should always be falcon.

Reaction tests are dumb.

[Urist]

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

I'll confirm that dunya targeted me last night and that I shot Sloonei.
The deal I made with her is that I can't vote for TSP or one other person. dunya was supposed to target the "one other person" last night. Obviously, that person is not falcon.

[Urist]

Sorry dunya targeted me the night before last and I shot Sloonei last night*

[Urist]

The fact that dunya is setting people up to not be able to vote Tony is concerning.

[Samusamu]

Spoiler: show

Also falcon is scum too for claiming that dunya visited him. For him to do that, Samu would have to be his partner who prob got the gun from dunya

K.
Samu is probably still mafia despite having a gun somehow. Pls execute him after I flip.

Wtf dude you are the mafia.

I'm town and if you're town as well then you seriously need to reconsider the way you play the game and form reads. Not everyone who suspects you is automatically scum.

Well, humm i have to say to you something.

I dont have a gun but i like this reaction, you are town lock despite of being thoughtless.

I just do this cause I couldn't believe that actually your case against me was legitimate so I came up with this and catch you at a time when you were online to see how you would react, this is what I call a shit test.

Now I know that even if you want to ML me you are town and that no one here is going to be able to recriminate you said lynch.

And no, I don't suspect the one who suspects me, there's a reason I didn't vote you and I've been saying all day that today's lynch should always be falcon.

Reaction tests are dumb.

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

I'll confirm that dunya targeted me last night and that I shot Sloonei.
The deal I made with her is that I can't vote for TSP or one other person. dunya was supposed to target the "one other person" last night. Obviously, that person is not falcon.

Sorry dunya targeted me the night before last and I shot Sloonei last night*

The fact that dunya is setting people up to not be able to vote Tony is concerning.

Well yeah, but you can thank me for going to break your Ml streak even though you killed Sloonei, seriously I don't know what some of you have in your head.

What you say makes sense

At this point gavial despite supposedly having a red check on falcon, has decided to vote tsp.

What I see is that either gavial is lying or falcon is lying about having made pact with dunya, I contemplate that falcon along with his mafia partner have deduced the hypothesis that the extra death of n2 has been outside the mafia so it should have been executed by someone town and have seen that the most likely would be tsp or urist.

Lynching tsp now is bullshit because it doesn't give us too much on who is lying with pacts, but as you rightly say dunya's insistence on naming him or not being voted is a buzz I can't ignore.

@falcon45ca what happens if you vote tsp?

The truth is that with the time we have if falcon votes tsp and dies we will know if he is telling the truth or not, we can vote and lynch accordingly.

If nothing happens we deduce that in principle he is lying.

Truth be told, I don't see a better scenario than the one I pose.

Need you guys to weight in this idea.

[Samusamu]

Spoiler: show

Also falcon is scum too for claiming that dunya visited him. For him to do that, Samu would have to be his partner who prob got the gun from dunya

K.
Samu is probably still mafia despite having a gun somehow. Pls execute him after I flip.

Wtf dude you are the mafia.

I'm town and if you're town as well then you seriously need to reconsider the way you play the game and form reads. Not everyone who suspects you is automatically scum.

Well, humm i have to say to you something.

I dont have a gun but i like this reaction, you are town lock despite of being thoughtless.

I just do this cause I couldn't believe that actually your case against me was legitimate so I came up with this and catch you at a time when you were online to see how you would react, this is what I call a shit test.

Now I know that even if you want to ML me you are town and that no one here is going to be able to recriminate you said lynch.

And no, I don't suspect the one who suspects me, there's a reason I didn't vote you and I've been saying all day that today's lynch should always be falcon.

Reaction tests are dumb.

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

I'll confirm that dunya targeted me last night and that I shot Sloonei.
The deal I made with her is that I can't vote for TSP or one other person. dunya was supposed to target the "one other person" last night. Obviously, that person is not falcon.

Sorry dunya targeted me the night before last and I shot Sloonei last night*

The fact that dunya is setting people up to not be able to vote Tony is concerning.

Well yeah, but you can thank me for going to break your Ml streak even though you killed Sloonei, seriously I don't know what some of you have in your head.

What you say makes sense

At this point gavial despite supposedly having a red check on falcon, has decided to vote tsp.

What I see is that either gavial is lying or falcon is lying about having made pact with dunya, I contemplate that falcon along with his mafia partner have deduced the hypothesis that the extra death of n2 has been outside the mafia so it should have been executed by someone town and have seen that the most likely would be tsp or urist.

Lynching tsp now is bullshit because it doesn't give us too much on who is lying with pacts, but as you rightly say dunya's insistence on naming him or not being voted is a buzz I can't ignore.

@falcon45ca what happens if you vote tsp?

The truth is that with the time we have if falcon votes tsp and dies we will know if he is telling the truth or not, we can vote and lynch accordingly.

If nothing happens we deduce that in principle he is lying.

Truth be told, I don't see a better scenario than the one I pose.

Need you guys to weight in this idea.

Also if dunya is maf side maybe he/she is naming tsp to make us doubt and ml buuut humm dunno.

[Samusamu]

It is true. Dunya gets her wincon if she's talked to half the remaining players by the end of game.


Did gavial give any details like this? No. Didn't mention the cost of his "red check" either, I had to ask. He's not been given a red check on me, it's impossible.


I am freely giving this info to the town. Why do I do this if I'm Maf? Think about it, I've been breadcrumbing my contact with dunya since it started.

U said u were vt now u are saying that you are freely giving the info to the town.

A town does no freely give anything, just share what he knows.

Are u a 3p

So u still are talking with dunya? Well what was the cost of the shoot of marmot?

I don't know what Marmot's cost was, I only know what my cost was. I asked her a question earlier today, but she hasn't responded.


Freely giving & sharing what I know is the same thing FYI

What more u know about the other players who have been in a deal with dunya?

Nothing really, just that she talked to Marmot & one of Urist/TSP. She wouldn't tell me who. She said she had it on good authority that I was gonna be shot soon, and not to reveal my convo with her as it would speed up my death.

It may seem like a ploy to keep you from talking.

It would be nice to check if you are going to die shot basically we would still be able to lynch and seize the day, if not it is still worth checking if your testimony is genuine, if your flip is green, with this you have handed us gavial and probably tsp on a platter since I have already explained urist I have him at 99% townlock.

And if you're red it's time to forget about this troll.

I also contemplate that dunya can lie to you, do you have any guarantee to say that he can't lie to you? I suppose that if dunya's condition is to make pacts with half of the living party, dunya will try to balance through his reads and his pacts both sides to reach the moment of having made pacts with half.

Do you know what happens if he achieves his goal? Does he win alone or does he continue the game?

Dunya most certainly can lie to me, cuz she said she hoped I was Maf when she opened the chat with me, but also said I'm going to get shot.

I believe Dunya's wincon doesn't matter if it's with town or Maf, just half the remaining players have to have talked with her.

Also if falcon is saying true this post makes more evidence of urist being town. From 99 to 101%

I dont think dunya will lie opening a conversation with someone saying that she hoped that falcon is maf.

Maybe she can lie to make things for us difficult like saying things like n2 deal with tsp/urist but not that kind of things.

[Samusamu]

Well i was rereading gavial last pages iso and i wanna talk about this.

The Cost is I don’t decide my vote.
I choose someone and I vote their vote and I’ll choose the person voting you.

Hey @Gavial what happen to this

How are u supposed to vote tsp alone and nothing happens, this is a scumslip or not doing what dunya says have no consequences.

OP says she can offer things to players...who has dunya talked to?

Me she gave me cop check.
I got Red on you.

@falcon45ca
I’m sorry man but I don’t see anything you’ve done as Townie.
That won’t change no matter how many times you say your town it can only change if you drastically improve within the next 12 hours and become Obv Town.

This is contradictory, i dont think in this game there is an ability that can manipulate another info abilities. 1% possible i guess.

You are saying that u have a red check in falcon and now that to believe falcon he has to improve in the next 12 and became obv with a supposed red check in your pm, how he can do that? You havent seen anything townie from someone who you suppose to know that is red?

[Samusamu]

@urist did you also have talked with dunya? What did she said?

[Urist]

she was very insistent that i not claim LOL
guess she should have made that part of the deal

[Urist]

Well i was rereading gavial last pages iso and i wanna talk about this.

The Cost is I don’t decide my vote.
I choose someone and I vote their vote and I’ll choose the person voting you.

Hey @Gavial what happen to this

How are u supposed to vote tsp alone and nothing happens, this is a scumslip or not doing what dunya says have no consequences.

OP says she can offer things to players...who has dunya talked to?

Me she gave me cop check.
I got Red on you.

@falcon45ca
I’m sorry man but I don’t see anything you’ve done as Townie.
That won’t change no matter how many times you say your town it can only change if you drastically improve within the next 12 hours and become Obv Town.

This is contradictory, i dont think in this game there is an ability that can manipulate another info abilities. 1% possible i guess.

You are saying that u have a red check in falcon and now that to believe falcon he has to improve in the next 12 and became obv with a supposed red check in your pm, how he can do that? You havent seen anything townie from someone who you suppose to know that is red?

gavial lies about that stuff all the time. don't worry about it.

[Urist]

Spoiler: show

Also falcon is scum too for claiming that dunya visited him. For him to do that, Samu would have to be his partner who prob got the gun from dunya

K.
Samu is probably still mafia despite having a gun somehow. Pls execute him after I flip.

Wtf dude you are the mafia.

I'm town and if you're town as well then you seriously need to reconsider the way you play the game and form reads. Not everyone who suspects you is automatically scum.

Well, humm i have to say to you something.

I dont have a gun but i like this reaction, you are town lock despite of being thoughtless.

I just do this cause I couldn't believe that actually your case against me was legitimate so I came up with this and catch you at a time when you were online to see how you would react, this is what I call a shit test.

Now I know that even if you want to ML me you are town and that no one here is going to be able to recriminate you said lynch.

And no, I don't suspect the one who suspects me, there's a reason I didn't vote you and I've been saying all day that today's lynch should always be falcon.

Reaction tests are dumb.

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

I'll confirm that dunya targeted me last night and that I shot Sloonei.
The deal I made with her is that I can't vote for TSP or one other person. dunya was supposed to target the "one other person" last night. Obviously, that person is not falcon.

Sorry dunya targeted me the night before last and I shot Sloonei last night*

The fact that dunya is setting people up to not be able to vote Tony is concerning.

Well yeah, but you can thank me for going to break your Ml streak even though you killed Sloonei, seriously I don't know what some of you have in your head.

What you say makes sense

At this point gavial despite supposedly having a red check on falcon, has decided to vote tsp.

What I see is that either gavial is lying or falcon is lying about having made pact with dunya, I contemplate that falcon along with his mafia partner have deduced the hypothesis that the extra death of n2 has been outside the mafia so it should have been executed by someone town and have seen that the most likely would be tsp or urist.

Lynching tsp now is bullshit because it doesn't give us too much on who is lying with pacts, but as you rightly say dunya's insistence on naming him or not being voted is a buzz I can't ignore.

@falcon45ca what happens if you vote tsp?

The truth is that with the time we have if falcon votes tsp and dies we will know if he is telling the truth or not, we can vote and lynch accordingly.

If nothing happens we deduce that in principle he is lying.

Truth be told, I don't see a better scenario than the one I pose.

Need you guys to weight in this idea.

if falcon is being truthful then his vote wouldn't count against tsp at EoD and he wouldn't be "punished" until that time.
so basically i don't think your proposal will work

[Samusamu]

Spoiler: show

Also falcon is scum too for claiming that dunya visited him. For him to do that, Samu would have to be his partner who prob got the gun from dunya

K.
Samu is probably still mafia despite having a gun somehow. Pls execute him after I flip.

Wtf dude you are the mafia.

I'm town and if you're town as well then you seriously need to reconsider the way you play the game and form reads. Not everyone who suspects you is automatically scum.

Well, humm i have to say to you something.

I dont have a gun but i like this reaction, you are town lock despite of being thoughtless.

I just do this cause I couldn't believe that actually your case against me was legitimate so I came up with this and catch you at a time when you were online to see how you would react, this is what I call a shit test.

Now I know that even if you want to ML me you are town and that no one here is going to be able to recriminate you said lynch.

And no, I don't suspect the one who suspects me, there's a reason I didn't vote you and I've been saying all day that today's lynch should always be falcon.

Reaction tests are dumb.

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

I'll confirm that dunya targeted me last night and that I shot Sloonei.
The deal I made with her is that I can't vote for TSP or one other person. dunya was supposed to target the "one other person" last night. Obviously, that person is not falcon.

Sorry dunya targeted me the night before last and I shot Sloonei last night*

The fact that dunya is setting people up to not be able to vote Tony is concerning.

Well yeah, but you can thank me for going to break your Ml streak even though you killed Sloonei, seriously I don't know what some of you have in your head.

What you say makes sense

At this point gavial despite supposedly having a red check on falcon, has decided to vote tsp.

What I see is that either gavial is lying or falcon is lying about having made pact with dunya, I contemplate that falcon along with his mafia partner have deduced the hypothesis that the extra death of n2 has been outside the mafia so it should have been executed by someone town and have seen that the most likely would be tsp or urist.

Lynching tsp now is bullshit because it doesn't give us too much on who is lying with pacts, but as you rightly say dunya's insistence on naming him or not being voted is a buzz I can't ignore.

@falcon45ca what happens if you vote tsp?

The truth is that with the time we have if falcon votes tsp and dies we will know if he is telling the truth or not, we can vote and lynch accordingly.

If nothing happens we deduce that in principle he is lying.

Truth be told, I don't see a better scenario than the one I pose.

Need you guys to weight in this idea.

if falcon is being truthful then his vote wouldn't count against tsp at EoD and he wouldn't be "punished" until that time.
so basically i don't think your proposal will work

Well, ok, nvm, I don't have that kind of "meta-reasons", so what do you propose?

What or what do you think is the best order of action for the town to win?

[Urist]

so i'm fairly confident that seanzie and bo are both town. not willing to axe them ever.
if i say for the sake of argument that you're town then that leaves me with falcon, tsp, gavial.
i think it's unlikely for falcon and gavial to be mafia together. gavial actually did just come out of a game where he hard-distanced from his scum buddy for multiple days, but in that game the distancing was bidirectional and in this game it's only coming from gavial's direction (falcon isn't hard-suspecting gavial which is what i would probably expect of this tactic if they're scum together).
so that leaves me with tsp and one of falcon or gavial. so basically tsp is the ideal axe.

but all of that is under the assumption that you're town. which i'm considering might be the case.
i guess from my point of view, where i'm left with one of tsp/samu and one of gav/falcon, the choice is still clearly tsp because if he's scum and don't kill him then we lose today, but if he's town and we do kill him we still have one more yeet.

[Urist]

so probably tsp is the mechanically-correct play.

but all of falcon's talk of his amazing ability and how it's going to help the town so much honestly makes me think that he's just trying to live another day. and if he's mafia with some fantastic ability (like a kill) then he's a problem as well.

[Urist]

i'm going to think about it more but i'm leaning toward tsp atm.

[Urist]

when i spoke with dunya, she was pretty confident that tsp is town and she addressed my concerns by basically saying "oh that's his town meta". which is why i backed off of him yesterday and today.
but it's definitely possible she was lying in order to get him further in the game. since she basically needs scum to stick around long enough for her to meet her wincon.

[Urist]

logging off for the night. might not have many chances to play tomorrow since it's the weekend but i'll try to be around.

[BoKnows]

I'm not saying what the ability is, but it's fuckin sweet

yes daddy

Jesus. You made that weird dude.

I think you're the one who made it weird

[falcon45ca]

so probably tsp is the mechanically-correct play.

but all of falcon's talk of his amazing ability and how it's going to help the town so much honestly makes me think that he's just trying to live another day. and if he's mafia with some fantastic ability (like a kill) then he's a problem as well.

That's false, and you know why, cuz you were told why

[Gavial]

so i'm fairly confident that seanzie and bo are both town. not willing to axe them ever.
if i say for the sake of argument that you're town then that leaves me with falcon, tsp, gavial.
i think it's unlikely for falcon and gavial to be mafia together. gavial actually did just come out of a game where he hard-distanced from his scum buddy for multiple days, but in that game the distancing was bidirectional and in this game it's only coming from gavial's direction (falcon isn't hard-suspecting gavial which is what i would probably expect of this tactic if they're scum together).
so that leaves me with tsp and one of falcon or gavial. so basically tsp is the ideal axe.

but all of that is under the assumption that you're town. which i'm considering might be the case.
i guess from my point of view, where i'm left with one of tsp/samu and one of gav/falcon, the choice is still clearly tsp because if he's scum and don't kill him then we lose today, but if he's town and we do kill him we still have one more yeet.

You don’t honestly believe I’m scum after Day 1 and Esooa flip do you?

[Gavial]

Guys we need to vote today and I say we do TSP.
If we don’t vote today we only have 1 chance but if we do vote today we have 2 chance.

[Seanzie]

Sorry dunya targeted me the night before last and I shot Sloonei last night*

Why did you shoot Sloonei?

[Urist]

so probably tsp is the mechanically-correct play.

but all of falcon's talk of his amazing ability and how it's going to help the town so much honestly makes me think that he's just trying to live another day. and if he's mafia with some fantastic ability (like a kill) then he's a problem as well.

That's false, and you know why, cuz you were told why

Dunya told me she didn't want to give any more kills. But she also told me that she was going to target someone else entirely sooo

[Urist]

so i'm fairly confident that seanzie and bo are both town. not willing to axe them ever.
if i say for the sake of argument that you're town then that leaves me with falcon, tsp, gavial.
i think it's unlikely for falcon and gavial to be mafia together. gavial actually did just come out of a game where he hard-distanced from his scum buddy for multiple days, but in that game the distancing was bidirectional and in this game it's only coming from gavial's direction (falcon isn't hard-suspecting gavial which is what i would probably expect of this tactic if they're scum together).
so that leaves me with tsp and one of falcon or gavial. so basically tsp is the ideal axe.

but all of that is under the assumption that you're town. which i'm considering might be the case.
i guess from my point of view, where i'm left with one of tsp/samu and one of gav/falcon, the choice is still clearly tsp because if he's scum and don't kill him then we lose today, but if he's town and we do kill him we still have one more yeet.

You don’t honestly believe I’m scum after Day 1 and Esooa flip do you?

I think you're town, but you're not above reproach in the same way that Bo and Sean are.
It's part of why I'm torn. If my theory is correct that there's one scum in you/falcon then I think it'sprob just falcon.

[Urist]

Bo, do you still think Samu is mafia?

[Gavial]

Also the fact Falcon says “thought you were scum” probably means if Falcon is Town which I don’t think he is but if he is town then this confirms Urist as Town and always makes TSP scum.

[Gavial]

so i'm fairly confident that seanzie and bo are both town. not willing to axe them ever.
if i say for the sake of argument that you're town then that leaves me with falcon, tsp, gavial.
i think it's unlikely for falcon and gavial to be mafia together. gavial actually did just come out of a game where he hard-distanced from his scum buddy for multiple days, but in that game the distancing was bidirectional and in this game it's only coming from gavial's direction (falcon isn't hard-suspecting gavial which is what i would probably expect of this tactic if they're scum together).
so that leaves me with tsp and one of falcon or gavial. so basically tsp is the ideal axe.

but all of that is under the assumption that you're town. which i'm considering might be the case.
i guess from my point of view, where i'm left with one of tsp/samu and one of gav/falcon, the choice is still clearly tsp because if he's scum and don't kill him then we lose today, but if he's town and we do kill him we still have one more yeet.

You don’t honestly believe I’m scum after Day 1 and Esooa flip do you?

I think you're town, but you're not above reproach in the same way that Bo and Sean are.
It's part of why I'm torn. If my theory is correct that there's one scum in you/falcon then I think it'sprob just falcon.

May I ask how did you come to your Bo conclusion?

[Urist]

Sorry dunya targeted me the night before last and I shot Sloonei last night*

Why did you shoot Sloonei?

I thought Alison was scummy. I also thought Sloonei's push on LC was bad, and that if Sloonei flipped scum that it would exonorate LC and we would save a ML.

[Gavial]

Sorry dunya targeted me the night before last and I shot Sloonei last night*

Why did you shoot Sloonei?

I thought Alison was scummy. I also thought Sloonei's push on LC was bad, and that if Sloonei flipped scum that it would exonorate LC and we would save a ML.

Yet I had him in my TR’s and we could have had an extra player that was a Veteran.
Thanks Urist!

[Urist]

so i'm fairly confident that seanzie and bo are both town. not willing to axe them ever.
if i say for the sake of argument that you're town then that leaves me with falcon, tsp, gavial.
i think it's unlikely for falcon and gavial to be mafia together. gavial actually did just come out of a game where he hard-distanced from his scum buddy for multiple days, but in that game the distancing was bidirectional and in this game it's only coming from gavial's direction (falcon isn't hard-suspecting gavial which is what i would probably expect of this tactic if they're scum together).
so that leaves me with tsp and one of falcon or gavial. so basically tsp is the ideal axe.

but all of that is under the assumption that you're town. which i'm considering might be the case.
i guess from my point of view, where i'm left with one of tsp/samu and one of gav/falcon, the choice is still clearly tsp because if he's scum and don't kill him then we lose today, but if he's town and we do kill him we still have one more yeet.

You don’t honestly believe I’m scum after Day 1 and Esooa flip do you?

I think you're town, but you're not above reproach in the same way that Bo and Sean are.
It's part of why I'm torn. If my theory is correct that there's one scum in you/falcon then I think it'sprob just falcon.

May I ask how did you come to your Bo conclusion?

He was one of the few people who stayed on hk when we weren't sure if it was going to be marmot or hk getting axed. If he's scum he's got balls of steel for not jumping onto the jessie/marmot wagons.

[Urist]

Sorry dunya targeted me the night before last and I shot Sloonei last night*

Why did you shoot Sloonei?

I thought Alison was scummy. I also thought Sloonei's push on LC was bad, and that if Sloonei flipped scum that it would exonorate LC and we would save a ML.

Yet I had him in my TR’s and we could have had an extra player that was a Veteran.
Thanks Urist!

Not gonna lie, that factored into why I killed him LOL

[Gavial]

so i'm fairly confident that seanzie and bo are both town. not willing to axe them ever.
if i say for the sake of argument that you're town then that leaves me with falcon, tsp, gavial.
i think it's unlikely for falcon and gavial to be mafia together. gavial actually did just come out of a game where he hard-distanced from his scum buddy for multiple days, but in that game the distancing was bidirectional and in this game it's only coming from gavial's direction (falcon isn't hard-suspecting gavial which is what i would probably expect of this tactic if they're scum together).
so that leaves me with tsp and one of falcon or gavial. so basically tsp is the ideal axe.

but all of that is under the assumption that you're town. which i'm considering might be the case.
i guess from my point of view, where i'm left with one of tsp/samu and one of gav/falcon, the choice is still clearly tsp because if he's scum and don't kill him then we lose today, but if he's town and we do kill him we still have one more yeet.

You don’t honestly believe I’m scum after Day 1 and Esooa flip do you?

I think you're town, but you're not above reproach in the same way that Bo and Sean are.
It's part of why I'm torn. If my theory is correct that there's one scum in you/falcon then I think it'sprob just falcon.

May I ask how did you come to your Bo conclusion?

He was one of the few people who stayed on hk when we weren't sure if it was going to be marmot or hk getting axed. If he's scum he's got balls of steel for not jumping onto the jessie/marmot wagons.

I honestly don’t see how that clears him.
I can see someone doing a day 1 Buss vote.

[Gavial]

Especially if he was TRing Marlot

[Seanzie]

Ehh, I don't know if we can trust Falcon or Urist, or Dunya for that matter, but idk if I want to yeet in there if they have powers that could really help town. TSP hasn't done anything though.

[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

[Urist]

Especially if he was TRing Marlot

If he's scum he isn't TRing anyone

[TonyStarkPrime]

tsp is lock town

[TonyStarkPrime]

Proof:

[TonyStarkPrime]

Someone who said it can’t be samu/urist why can’t it be samu/urist

[TonyStarkPrime]

There’s a good reason why it can’t be samu/urist I think but I don’t think it’s /that/ good

[TonyStarkPrime]

Could be samu/sean

[TonyStarkPrime]

Trying to resolve in {falcon, gav} seems like a way to lose mafia

Why? I think that a gavial-urist town lock core is a strong and powerful card.

You aren’t locking gav as town if you say that

Well then if what you say is true gavial and urist are the scum, i cant believe that exist a world where you are town and didnt begin the day saying this.

I also a 99% sure townlocking urist by his reaction in no time to think if what i did is a lie or to check with his scummates something.

I personally read that ate in the response that he gives as a towny ate.

So i conclude that is pretty obvious that we have to check who lies between you and gavial and i have more reasons to scumread u than gavial.

One is obvious but esooa softclaim of vt at the beginning of the game was pretty obvious by reading the message that nanook gives to other vt, your response to it was scumness cause only a scum cant infere that the doubts of what aligment for a mere mortal is and why esooa thinks that he was town.

It is true. Dunya gets her wincon if she's talked to half the remaining players by the end of game.


Did gavial give any details like this? No. Didn't mention the cost of his "red check" either, I had to ask. He's not been given a red check on me, it's impossible.


I am freely giving this info to the town. Why do I do this if I'm Maf? Think about it, I've been breadcrumbing my contact with dunya since it started.

U said u were vt now u are saying that you are freely giving the info to the town.

A town does no freely give anything, just share what he knows.

Are u a 3p

So u still are talking with dunya? Well what was the cost of the shoot of marmot?

I don't know what Marmot's cost was, I only know what my cost was. I asked her a question earlier today, but she hasn't responded.


Freely giving & sharing what I know is the same thing FYI

What more u know about the other players who have been in a deal with dunya?

Nothing really, just that she talked to Marmot & one of Urist/TSP. She wouldn't tell me who. She said she had it on good authority that I was gonna be shot soon, and not to reveal my convo with her as it would speed up my death.

It may seem like a ploy to keep you from talking.

It would be nice to check if you are going to die shot basically we would still be able to lynch and seize the day, if not it is still worth checking if your testimony is genuine, if your flip is green, with this you have handed us gavial and probably tsp on a platter since I have already explained urist I have him at 99% townlock.

And if you're red it's time to forget about this troll.

I also contemplate that dunya can lie to you, do you have any guarantee to say that he can't lie to you? I suppose that if dunya's condition is to make pacts with half of the living party, dunya will try to balance through his reads and his pacts both sides to reach the moment of having made pacts with half.

Do you know what happens if he achieves his goal? Does he win alone or does he continue the game?

[TonyStarkPrime]

I think falcon might be my strongest town but if gav is a wolf I think falcon might be lock wolf so I guess gav is my strongest town

[TonyStarkPrime]

There’s a good reason why it can’t be samu/urist I think but I don’t think it’s /that/ good

I came up with a second good reason

[TonyStarkPrime]

Did anyone tell me what the townie thing samu did was

[TonyStarkPrime]

Samu insisted he was trying to solve the game which I guess is towny but his solve is {one of falcon,gav} and {?} and this seems like not a solve

[TonyStarkPrime]

Ehh, I don't know if we can trust Falcon or Urist, or Dunya for that matter, but idk if I want to yeet in there if they have powers that could really help town. TSP hasn't done anything though.

[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

true that makes me town (I’d venture you should know this)

[TonyStarkPrime]

Ehh, I don't know if we can trust Falcon or Urist, or Dunya for that matter, but idk if I want to yeet in there if they have powers that could really help town. TSP hasn't done anything though.

[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

Has urist claimed an ability

[TonyStarkPrime]

Urist is locking bo and Sean as town and if he’s town one of us is /very/ wrong