Fargo Mafia [Game Ends]

[fingersplints]

@Sloonei also you are missing strawhenge on that list

[Sloonei]

@Sloonei I love the
“Me:
Me”

section

I definitely agree with the talk that Falcon needs revisiting. I remember thinking they were town early on, but I’m not sure that it’s a good enough reason with the recent flip and their latest activity. (Changing votes while not wanting to answer why)

His lack of an explanation upon request is not a great look either.

If you had to crunch the game down into a 5-player pool of suspects, who would they be?

If I were to crunch the player list to the “least townie” 5 I’d probably end up with Al, Dom, LC, jpic, and maybe Falcon.
But I’m having a hard time picking just 5. Being wrong about tsp is making me question a lot. I still don’t have a great read on spf. I’m less confident on town lean for Bo. I don’t know if we can trust the claims for Odd and KZA. And what if I’m just stupid and wrong in my town read of nanook.

I feel like the way LC pushed for me yesterday was believable. I don't think that's an argument he tries to make if it's not 100% genuine. Caveat is that this is multiball, so there's nothing stopping LC from making a genuine argument as scum. It could be the case that he knew I was wrong about Ted because he (LC) is on Team Marmot himself, and his suspicion of Me + Tony in tandem was legitimate. But I had been vaguely leaning town on LC prior to that anyway. He's a long way from being resolved, though.

Do any of these players strike you as being particularly linked to Marmot?

[Hally]

my five would be

al sama
long con
dom
jpic
nanook

with falcon and splints being kind of a backup i guess

i would be pretty shocked if there aren’t multiple wolves in those names

[Sloonei]

@Sloonei also you are missing strawhenge on that list

Oh, nice catch. I have him as my top town read among the players who have no mechanical information backing them up. I suppose he'd be on the list of potential POE candidates for the exercise, but he would not be in my POE.

[Sloonei]

my five would be

al sama
long con
dom
jpic
nanook

with falcon and splints being kind of a backup i guess

i would be pretty shocked if there aren’t multiple wolves in those names

Who's Team Marmot and Who's Team Other Team?

[Hally]

my five would be

al sama
long con
dom
jpic
nanook

with falcon and splints being kind of a backup i guess

i would be pretty shocked if there aren’t multiple wolves in those names

Who's Team Marmot and Who's Team Other Team?

i don’t know

[Hally]

does it really matter who’s on what team? can’t we just kill not villagery people until we have flips from both teams and go from there?

[Justplayingitcool]

lol. "fake drunk". that's the worse shade i've ever seen.

[fingersplints]

I’ve apparently been spending too much time on mafia as my toddler lightly bit me in the arm and then immediately farted in my face for attention. Don’t have kids everyone
Be back later

[Justplayingitcool]

lol. "fake drunk". that's the worse shade i've ever seen.

I have faked drunk in Mafia before but I don't really buy that JPIC saw those posts and thought you were up to something wolfy

Ok.

[Sloonei]

does it really matter who’s on what team? can’t we just kill not villagery people until we have flips from both teams and go from there?

Mac said to be skeptical of people who aren't hunting for teams.

I don't think he was trying to warn us about you though.

[KZA]

lol. "fake drunk". that's the worse shade i've ever seen.

I have faked drunk in Mafia before but I don't really buy that JPIC saw those posts and thought you were up to something wolfy

Ok.

what was he trying to do as a wolf there hypothetically

[Justplayingitcool]

lol. "fake drunk". that's the worse shade i've ever seen.

I have faked drunk in Mafia before but I don't really buy that JPIC saw those posts and thought you were up to something wolfy

he's throwing shade at me all game. he's not even trying anymore, just throws shade.

Ok.

[Sloonei]

I’ve apparently been spending too much time on mafia as my toddler lightly bit me in the arm and then immediately farted in my face for attention. Don’t have kids everyone
Be back later

I have found this is the best way to get the attention of loved ones, to be fair.

[Hally]

at what point do we just kill dom?

i don’t want him peeked @Michelle . having an empty slot as a clear is a waste. please peek someone who hasn’t claimed to be self resolving and will actually use their cleared status to contribute

[Hally]

we’re 100% lunching al_sama next day btw. they need to be resolved

[Justplayingitcool]

lol. "fake drunk". that's the worse shade i've ever seen.

I have faked drunk in Mafia before but I don't really buy that JPIC saw those posts and thought you were up to something wolfy

Ok.

what was he trying to do as a wolf there hypothetically

Disrupt the thread and make himself believable when he ‘drunk posts’ by calling himself ‘vikkagder’.

Why else fake being drunk?

[Hally]

what if he was just drinking on a saturday night as people tend to do?

[Justplayingitcool]

My POE IS

Nanook
Lc
Al
Dom
bk


Would put KZA just above the PoE of five

[Esooa]

lol. "fake drunk". that's the worse shade i've ever seen.

I have faked drunk in Mafia before but I don't really buy that JPIC saw those posts and thought you were up to something wolfy

Ok.

what was he trying to do as a wolf there hypothetically

Disrupt the thread and make himself believable when he ‘drunk posts’ by calling himself ‘vikkagder’.

Why else fake being drunk?

are you faking being drunk rn

[Justplayingitcool]

lol. "fake drunk". that's the worse shade i've ever seen.

I have faked drunk in Mafia before but I don't really buy that JPIC saw those posts and thought you were up to something wolfy

Ok.

what was he trying to do as a wolf there hypothetically

Disrupt the thread and make himself believable when he ‘drunk posts’ by calling himself ‘vikkagder’.

Why else fake being drunk?

are you faking being drunk rn

Yes.

[KZA]

Was my drunk posting fake?

[Hally]

lol

[Hally]

Was my drunk posting fake?

yes, you concocted a dastardly drunk posting scheme with boknows in wolf chat. we see through it though. start catting

[Sloonei]

My POE IS

Nanook
Lc
Al
Dom
bk


Would put KZA just above the PoE of five

Why not falcon?

[Justplayingitcool]

My POE IS

Nanook
Lc
Al
Dom
bk


Would put KZA just above the PoE of five

Why not falcon?

Because I have a slight townread on him for switching the votes with reasons i laid out earlier. Plus, I don’t think he is on marmots team either

[Justplayingitcool]

Was my drunk posting fake?

idk, was it?

[Michelle]

[VOTE: Al-Sama] aubergine

let's have a look at this

then michelle, spf and i go for al

feel cute might bury tony idk

then this

this is fine.

^after falcon made the tie breaking move

damn rip tony

someone shoot al

the flip didn't even happen by this point

w a t

I was fine with Tony until I decided I'd much prefer Al Sama

How fast did you take this decision?
What was the base for this change of mind?

[Michelle]

BoKnows is trapped in Ontario we can't consider his drunk posting an issue imo

I think he faked it

[Michelle]

I took time away from the thread after EOD, but before I went to bed and after I woke up this morning, I had a persistent thought. The following exchange prompted me.

That is a disappointing result. I really thought I was on to something there.

To be fair, Tony didn't do himself many favors.

tony was playing the way he does every game. i honestly never understood why he was public enemy number #1 and i think lunching him over al was pretty bad but hindsight is 20/20

I’ve never played with Tony before, so I had no comparison.
Is there anyone who you think should have “known better” or any reason to think someone who voted him wasn’t genuine in their suspicion?

Fingersplints and I don't have experience with TSP. To us, he looked scummy. The Marmot thing alone, which fingersplints banked on, was enough. I recall @Hally saying that this is how TSP is, before the chop. I seem to recall others saying so as well, but I can't immediately recall. So my thought comes in the form of a question:

Who amongst us knew TSP's meta, saw people suspect, vote for, and ultimately chop him—and didn't say, 'That's just how Tony is'?

Bonus question: Who amongst us knew TSP's meta and didn't speak up, but spoke up about other people's meta?

the thing is, tony just finished a game where he wolfed extremely well. he posted more than any wolf in site history and won in F3 of a long grueling game. it’s understandable coming off a win like that one that he faced a lot of paranoia in this game for no real reason. whenever someone has a good wolf performance like that people are always going to be irrationally paranoid the next game so they don’t get duped again

This logic says we should chop Alison

[Michelle]

@Hally who played that game you mentioned with wolf tony f3 that is playing this one? Basically who do you think might be justifiable paranoid?

here’s the game: https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... =27&t=2055

jay ran it

boknows, falcon, kza, esooa, mac, spf, sloonei, nook, alison and lc were all in it

That’s a lot of the same people. Worth considering I guess, but I’m not sure I’d trust paranoia as an excuse there anyways. It’s ok to be wary of someone for a previous good performance, but I don’t think that’s a good excuse for voting for them.

I don't trust paranoia, a new game is a new start and everyone knows what this means.
Experienced players don't suspect someone just because they can wolf.

[BoKnows]

@KZA my poe
lc
nook
kza/odd
al
idk maybe falcon, need to reevaluate

[Michelle]

lol. "fake drunk". that's the worse shade i've ever seen.

I've seen people faking it before, and I don't trust it, but if it's true you should play mafia sober tbh

[Hally]

BoKnows is trapped in Ontario we can't consider his drunk posting an issue imo

I think he faked it

what is the point of faking that? you’re assigning malicious intentions to something that has entirely benign explanation. it was saturday night. people get drunk on saturday night. drunk people sometimes post in threads. the end

[Hally]

if boknows is a wolf you should be able to catch him based on something other than “he pretended to be drunk for no reason”

[Hally]

I took time away from the thread after EOD, but before I went to bed and after I woke up this morning, I had a persistent thought. The following exchange prompted me.

That is a disappointing result. I really thought I was on to something there.

To be fair, Tony didn't do himself many favors.

tony was playing the way he does every game. i honestly never understood why he was public enemy number #1 and i think lunching him over al was pretty bad but hindsight is 20/20

I’ve never played with Tony before, so I had no comparison.
Is there anyone who you think should have “known better” or any reason to think someone who voted him wasn’t genuine in their suspicion?

Fingersplints and I don't have experience with TSP. To us, he looked scummy. The Marmot thing alone, which fingersplints banked on, was enough. I recall @Hally saying that this is how TSP is, before the chop. I seem to recall others saying so as well, but I can't immediately recall. So my thought comes in the form of a question:

Who amongst us knew TSP's meta, saw people suspect, vote for, and ultimately chop him—and didn't say, 'That's just how Tony is'?

Bonus question: Who amongst us knew TSP's meta and didn't speak up, but spoke up about other people's meta?

the thing is, tony just finished a game where he wolfed extremely well. he posted more than any wolf in site history and won in F3 of a long grueling game. it’s understandable coming off a win like that one that he faced a lot of paranoia in this game for no real reason. whenever someone has a good wolf performance like that people are always going to be irrationally paranoid the next game so they don’t get duped again

This logic says we should chop Alison

i wasn’t arguing that the paranoia was justified. i was simply saying it’s something that i’ve seen happen a lot after people have very good wolf games. i’m not saying it’s good, but it still happens

[Sloonei]

BoKnkws did not fake being drunk and I highly doubt he came in here with the mindset of disrupting or embellishing anything. It is no factor at all in my read of him.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

@Sloonei I love the
“Me:
Me”

section

I definitely agree with the talk that Falcon needs revisiting. I remember thinking they were town early on, but I’m not sure that it’s a good enough reason with the recent flip and their latest activity. (Changing votes while not wanting to answer why)

His lack of an explanation upon request is not a great look either.

If you had to crunch the game down into a 5-player pool of suspects, who would they be?

If I were to crunch the player list to the “least townie” 5 I’d probably end up with Al, Dom, LC, jpic, and maybe Falcon.
But I’m having a hard time picking just 5. Being wrong about tsp is making me question a lot. I still don’t have a great read on spf. I’m less confident on town lean for Bo. I don’t know if we can trust the claims for Odd and KZA. And what if I’m just stupid and wrong in my town read of nanook.

Keep the faith you won't be disappointed

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Well you might be disappointed but you won't be wrong

[KZA]

[VOTE: Al-Sama] aubergine

let's have a look at this

then michelle, spf and i go for al

feel cute might bury tony idk

then this

this is fine.

^after falcon made the tie breaking move

damn rip tony

someone shoot al

the flip didn't even happen by this point

w a t

I was fine with Tony until I decided I'd much prefer Al Sama

How fast did you take this decision?
What was the base for this change of mind?

I agreed with Hally saying it seemed very suboptimal to kill Tony when he's actually doing stuff

[Michelle]

Spoiler: show

I took time away from the thread after EOD, but before I went to bed and after I woke up this morning, I had a persistent thought. The following exchange prompted me.

To be fair, Tony didn't do himself many favors.

tony was playing the way he does every game. i honestly never understood why he was public enemy number #1 and i think lunching him over al was pretty bad but hindsight is 20/20

I’ve never played with Tony before, so I had no comparison.
Is there anyone who you think should have “known better” or any reason to think someone who voted him wasn’t genuine in their suspicion?

Fingersplints and I don't have experience with TSP. To us, he looked scummy. The Marmot thing alone, which fingersplints banked on, was enough. I recall @Hally saying that this is how TSP is, before the chop. I seem to recall others saying so as well, but I can't immediately recall. So my thought comes in the form of a question:

Who amongst us knew TSP's meta, saw people suspect, vote for, and ultimately chop him—and didn't say, 'That's just how Tony is'?

Bonus question: Who amongst us knew TSP's meta and didn't speak up, but spoke up about other people's meta?

the thing is, tony just finished a game where he wolfed extremely well. he posted more than any wolf in site history and won in F3 of a long grueling game. it’s understandable coming off a win like that one that he faced a lot of paranoia in this game for no real reason. whenever someone has a good wolf performance like that people are always going to be irrationally paranoid the next game so they don’t get duped again

This logic says we should chop Alison

i wasn’t arguing that the paranoia was justified. i was simply saying it’s something that i’ve seen happen a lot after people have very good wolf games. i’m not saying it’s good, but it still happens

Unfortunately yes, it's happening.

I think my Poe would be Al, Falcon, KZA (i rescind TR after i saw the Marmot interaction), and probably Bo (not for drunk/fake drunk posting) for team Marmot.
I think Alison has wolf equity and probably I don't trust SPF and Odd. In this group i think is at least one mafia. For team 2 we can fill with people who are not active, like Dom, but his lynch doesn't bring anything, or with people on the middle/nullish part of everyone's reads.
I still don't understand why a CFD on Dom wasn't discussed until now at all.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Dom is alive cause syndicate hates killing afk people for some reason and would rather drag their slot to endgame

[Sloonei]

Dom is alive cause syndicate hates killing afk people for some reason and would rather drag their slot to endgame

It’s weird that Dom wasn’t an option at eod yesterday either.

But I guess we’ve believed in the content we have over the lack of content dom has provided

[Hally]

we are definitely killing dom before endgame

[KZA]

Dom is alive cause syndicate hates killing afk people for some reason and would rather drag their slot to endgame

this game will get very sluggish if we don't have a vig

[fingersplints]

Spoiler: show

I took time away from the thread after EOD, but before I went to bed and after I woke up this morning, I had a persistent thought. The following exchange prompted me.

tony was playing the way he does every game. i honestly never understood why he was public enemy number #1 and i think lunching him over al was pretty bad but hindsight is 20/20

I’ve never played with Tony before, so I had no comparison.
Is there anyone who you think should have “known better” or any reason to think someone who voted him wasn’t genuine in their suspicion?

Fingersplints and I don't have experience with TSP. To us, he looked scummy. The Marmot thing alone, which fingersplints banked on, was enough. I recall @Hally saying that this is how TSP is, before the chop. I seem to recall others saying so as well, but I can't immediately recall. So my thought comes in the form of a question:

Who amongst us knew TSP's meta, saw people suspect, vote for, and ultimately chop him—and didn't say, 'That's just how Tony is'?

Bonus question: Who amongst us knew TSP's meta and didn't speak up, but spoke up about other people's meta?

the thing is, tony just finished a game where he wolfed extremely well. he posted more than any wolf in site history and won in F3 of a long grueling game. it’s understandable coming off a win like that one that he faced a lot of paranoia in this game for no real reason. whenever someone has a good wolf performance like that people are always going to be irrationally paranoid the next game so they don’t get duped again

This logic says we should chop Alison

i wasn’t arguing that the paranoia was justified. i was simply saying it’s something that i’ve seen happen a lot after people have very good wolf games. i’m not saying it’s good, but it still happens

Unfortunately yes, it's happening.

I think my Poe would be Al, Falcon, KZA (i rescind TR after i saw the Marmot interaction), and probably Bo (not for drunk/fake drunk posting) for team Marmot.
I think Alison has wolf equity and probably I don't trust SPF and Odd. In this group i think is at least one mafia. For team 2 we can fill with people who are not active, like Dom, but his lynch doesn't bring anything, or with people on the middle/nullish part of everyone's reads.
I still don't understand why a CFD on Dom wasn't discussed until now at all.

What does CFD mean?

I think we still have a strong suspect in Al but I’m definitely on board with getting rid of Dom too.
I come from a time where you had to be alive at the end to win, so I have a lot of residual hatred for players being kept alive who don’t play.

[Hally]

cfd = flash wagon

it means to suddenly wagon a player close to the deadline

[Hally]

@Dom hi, do you exist?

[Sloonei]

I’m not worried about Dom just yet.

[BoKnows]

Dom might be golfing today.