I'm not great at portraying tone so please understand while reading this that my tone is not frustrated just mostly curious about your views on mafia in general purely at a scientific level.Alison wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:25 am @Kylemii It was not a logical fallacy, it was optimal play. I resolve people based on things that are hard to fake first, and I don't throw away structural elements in favor of "but he's acting so town though". And I gave town a chance to win F3 after your death anyway. Mafia might be a social game but trusting in the human element is just begging to get outplayed and I've won so many scum games by abusing that. You should know that, because "the human element" was what lost you GOC when a strict adherence to logic and structuralism would have won it.
I mean first of all your play was proven wrong less than optimal in the last 24 hours. you voted martin immediately and without discussion or deliberation at the final 3 instead of spending the day reviewing the game or talking things out. I don't know what part of that was meant to be optimal. BoKnows just completely slid by. do you think he'd have been able to do that if we'd spent any part of the last week or even the last day phase discussing him? or anyone else? absolutely not.
and the thing you kept bringing up about me needing to be yeeted before f3 was really just a literal fallacy though. it was only correct *because* you said it and planned to act on it. the only reason I needed to be yeeted at all was cus you alone thought it was optimal despite thinking I was town so and were clearly town. the only other person who supported you on this thought was BoKnows, who was mafia, which means the only actual urgency involved was 100% in your control.
I want to be perfectly clear I'm not frustrated at all with you or your choices, I'm mostly a little amazed. I joke a lot about how the "logically correct" way to win mafia with the greatest % of success is to collectively get the group never read or make posts and vote in a predetermined order without wavering. You've actually kind of adapted that philosophy into a personal play style and I think that's legitimately pretty cool, but completely ignoring the human element of mafia is going to introduce easily avoidable mistakes, and treating the game as if it can and should be solved that way negates the purpose of playing *with* people instead of bots.