Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [AMERICA RISES]

[Gavial]

If anyone has any questions, I’m your guy!

[Gavial]

Yeah that’s a wolf right

Call me that again.

Wolf

That’s it!
Time to Suicide Bomb onto yeah!

[TonyStarkPrime]

Yeah that’s a wolf right

Call me that again.

Wolf

Towny mind meld

[VOTE: Chop] aubergine

[TonyStarkPrime]

If Urist is serious about the vault city post we should still chop LC I think

[Gavial]

I have a question for yeah.

What’s your highest TR?

[Gavial]

If Urist is serious about the vault city post we should still chop LC I think

Chop LC?
Is that like using my name as a word?

[Alison]

So I think chop is a wolf but I also think foresight is and I don't think they're wolves together

[TonyStarkPrime]

Yes it’s what it’s called when I chop someone.

What interests you about my highest townread

[TonyStarkPrime]

So I think chop is a wolf but I also think foresight is and I don't think they're wolves together

Luckily this is multiball

[c4e5g3d5]

I have a question for yeah.

What’s your highest TR?

Esooa

[Alison]

I have a question for yeah.

What’s your highest TR?

Esooa

walk me through your thought process

[c4e5g3d5]

I have a question for yeah.

What’s your highest TR?

Esooa

walk me through your thought process

let's be honest who here understands this game

This is super towny in a way that I might articulate after a good night's sleep but that you guys can probably vaguely see the angle behind.

Anyone not dark blue would have thought hard about the setup, and wouldn't want their thoughts on the setup to come out because it would be a huge slip risk. This post doesn't read as fake because IIRC it was in the middle of some big aimless convo between me/her/Sloon.

[Urist]

So I think chop is a wolf but I also think foresight is and I don't think they're wolves together

why not?

[Urist]

this kinda looks like nanook town btw
not just saying that bc i'm pocketed either

[BoKnows]

Good morning everyone

[falcon45ca]

I get the feeling that LC is prob vault city so idk why he's getting wagonned atm but i said i'd sheep mac so
Poison's reaction to tsp on d0 is +enclave
C4 & spf are enclave

Like literally everyone is enclave except lc

what is vault city and why is LC that

Vault city is a 2nd scumteam that is kinda bad but not super bad
Enclave is the primary scumteam and there are allegedly more of them so we should be focusing on that team first
Lc is vc bc c4 voted 4 him

How do we, as ignorant town, focus on 1 scum team over another? How do we know the difference?

[Gavial]

Yes it’s what it’s called when I chop someone.

What interests you about my highest townread

Trying to make discussion. Little Information is handy.
If you vote your TR then your prob Wolf.
Unless you like explain your 180 first.

[Gavial]

I get the feeling that LC is prob vault city so idk why he's getting wagonned atm but i said i'd sheep mac so
Poison's reaction to tsp on d0 is +enclave
C4 & spf are enclave

Like literally everyone is enclave except lc

what is vault city and why is LC that

Vault city is a 2nd scumteam that is kinda bad but not super bad
Enclave is the primary scumteam and there are allegedly more of them so we should be focusing on that team first
Lc is vc bc c4 voted 4 him

How do we, as ignorant town, focus on 1 scum team over another? How do we know the difference?

I think it’s better to focus on individual reads IMO.
From there if there happens to be a wolf flip we can look for potential partner interactions.

[Gavial]

this kinda looks like nanook town btw
not just saying that bc i'm pocketed either

Wouldn’t pocket suggest scum?
Or are you using the term differently?

[Urist]

i've definitely tried to pocket people as town before and it's not something i would put past nanook lol

[Gavial]

Like do you mean if they are scum they would have you in a pocket?

[Gavial]

i've definitely tried to pocket people as town before and it's not something i would put past nanook lol

Pocket as in like sheep someone and make them hard TR you?

[falcon45ca]

I get the feeling that LC is prob vault city so idk why he's getting wagonned atm but i said i'd sheep mac so
Poison's reaction to tsp on d0 is +enclave
C4 & spf are enclave

Like literally everyone is enclave except lc

what is vault city and why is LC that

Vault city is a 2nd scumteam that is kinda bad but not super bad
Enclave is the primary scumteam and there are allegedly more of them so we should be focusing on that team first
Lc is vc bc c4 voted 4 him

How do we, as ignorant town, focus on 1 scum team over another? How do we know the difference?

I think it’s better to focus on individual reads IMO.
From there if there happens to be a wolf flip we can look for potential partner interactions.

This makes sense. What Urist was suggesting seems, to me, impossible to do as town. If he's one of the other factions on the other hand...

[falcon45ca]

Good morning everyone

For fuck's sake BK, did you rand scum again?

[Gavial]

I get the feeling that LC is prob vault city so idk why he's getting wagonned atm but i said i'd sheep mac so
Poison's reaction to tsp on d0 is +enclave
C4 & spf are enclave

Like literally everyone is enclave except lc

what is vault city and why is LC that

Vault city is a 2nd scumteam that is kinda bad but not super bad
Enclave is the primary scumteam and there are allegedly more of them so we should be focusing on that team first
Lc is vc bc c4 voted 4 him

How do we, as ignorant town, focus on 1 scum team over another? How do we know the difference?

I think it’s better to focus on individual reads IMO.
From there if there happens to be a wolf flip we can look for potential partner interactions.

This makes sense. What Urist was suggesting seems, to me, impossible to do as town. If he's one of the other factions on the other hand...

I mean we don’t need to hold Urist’s hand and follow them.
Just do what you think is best, don’t let others control you.

[Gavial]

Good morning everyone

For fuck's sake BK, did you rand scum again?

Yeah, he’s with me!

Wacha gonna do about it?

[falcon45ca]

Yes it’s what it’s called when I chop someone.

What interests you about my highest townread

Odd reply. Why are you being cagey about townreads?

[Gavial]

Yes it’s what it’s called when I chop someone.

What interests you about my highest townread

Odd reply. Why are you being cagey about townreads?

Maybe they wolf trying to discredit me.

[falcon45ca]

Good morning everyone

For fuck's sake BK, did you rand scum again?

Yeah, he’s with me!

Wacha gonna do about it?

Lynch you both?

[falcon45ca]

Yes it’s what it’s called when I chop someone.

What interests you about my highest townread

Odd reply. Why are you being cagey about townreads?

Maybe they wolf trying to discredit me.

Maybe they're wolf and they're trying to A) come up with good reasons for their townreads, or B) trying to shade players for asking for townreads

[Gavial]

Not if we lynch you first!

[Gavial]

Yes it’s what it’s called when I chop someone.

What interests you about my highest townread

Odd reply. Why are you being cagey about townreads?

Maybe they wolf trying to discredit me.

Maybe they're wolf and they're trying to A) come up with good reasons for their townreads, or B) trying to shade players for asking for townreads

If there A we should try and push them to give us their TR’s.

[falcon45ca]

i townlean esooa

What about Dom?

he might just be town too

i think most of the issue i take with dom stems from a difference in mindset and playstyle moreso than it does alignment

i find his style of questioning confusing/incredibly unclear - but not necessarily wolfy. i think i'm pretty decent at telling when pushes on me are happening in bad faith or good faith, and i don't get the sense that dom's line of questioning is stemming from bad faith - i can practically hear him cackling behind his keyboard as he types the "gotchas", and i can believe that he believes what he's saying even if it's difficult for me to wrap my head around

Again, if your goal is mutual understanding-- how is this helping you get there?

voicing your concerns about someone is part of reaching a mutual understanding

you posted something i found scummy. i explained why i found it scummy. you responded to my explanation. since that point, we've been going in circles and communicating in an ineffective way that has helped neither of us understand each other before

i would expand on this more, but i fundamentally do not understand your point. it feels like we're speaking two different languages

My point is clear.
You threw spaghetti at the wall. It did not stick. You accused me of being bad as a response to me prodding you.
You then threw more spaghetti at the wall. It still did not stick. You said I misunderstood a point and doubled down. I did not.
Your pasta isn't ready. Your stove is not on. There is no heat here.
I find both of these actions suspect; especially given that you went out of your way to say that your goal was understanding.

Is my point unclear or are you afraid of it?

All this talk of spaghetti is making me hungry

[c4e5g3d5]

Chop is TWTBAW ez

[c4e5g3d5]

@falcon45ca you still here? Chop read now.

[falcon45ca]

@falcon45ca you still here? Chop read now.

My read on Chop, or who do I want chopped?

[c4e5g3d5]

Your read on Chop.

[BoKnows]

Good morning everyone

For fuck's sake BK, did you rand scum again?

3/3 shooting an absurd 100% from the field

[falcon45ca]

Your read on Chop.

Town lean, I think they'd be...more cautious? in the thread if they were scum.

[falcon45ca]

Good morning everyone

For fuck's sake BK, did you rand scum again?

3/3 shooting an absurd 100% from the field

Nice. You should buy a lottery ticket.


[VOTE: VOTE BK] aubergine

[falcon45ca]

Sloonei, Dom town. Esooa mafia. Alison/Joseph unaligned. Daisy town. C4 mafia. Poison town.

Heading to work.

You must have a messy bedroom.



Organize your town & scum reads together, or incur the wrath of my mild OCD

[falcon45ca]

Lol your idea of how to win is "lets all just try heaps hard". So idealistic. You can be town.

kinda sheeeeep this.

I see people are doing an IP

Pros: right reads
Cons: slacking
Gameplan: pointing out the obvious
Misc.: gets lynched/killed prob before D3

I can assure the misc is based on true events. Ello there mate, how you doin?

Summary so far:
Poison: Shitposter+

I LOVE HOW THERE'S A PLUS after SHITPOSTER <33333333333333333333

Pros: Tenacity
Cons: Personality
Game Plan: Kill All Scum
Misc: Hilarity

gut read, this is scum.

Towny mindset here IMO.

[Rej]

i have two townreads but im not gonna say who yet = )

Heya, here to play some low effort, this is the first post that pinged me. I personally don't like posts like this because they are confusing as heck. This could be the most unneccessary soft claim, or this could be a bait, or this could be anything.
I always ask myself why a town should do this, the last time I saw someone do this they ended up masons with someone and they got lynched.

Anyone beat me to this.


Also I see Long Con and KZA are voted currently. I feel whenever I play here Long Con gets voted somehow. Will drop my opinions once I am cought up.

[Rej]

having a real shit day so here's some slank cover

hope your day gets better Mac!

Being mafia back to back is tough. I wouldn’t want to play either. Sorry we not on the same team this time mac.

huh, why were I quoted fam

[Rej]

Hi all-- I am catching up and hope to keep up throughout the game going forward. This school year has proven especially challenging for us teachers this year, so I will do my best. I'm glad to see new faces and some old friends. <3

Hey guys, metadiving is a huge PITA and so is figuring out whether NAI playstyle stuff is actually NAI playstyle stuff or not, so everyone gimme some playstyle cliffnotes. Here are mine.

Pros: Bunch o' stuff.
Cons: Can't brown nose for shit. Can't PR read for shit.
Gameplan: Make bad reads until I can make good reads.
Misc.: *deep inhale*

The shortest cycle length ever to be run on my home site was one 3/1 game, and most cycle lengths are things like 10/2 and 14/2, so TS cycles are definitely pretty fast for me. I've played a few 2/1 games on MU, so I can still keep up with reading for sure, and I can still make reads for sure, but don't expect me to highpost unless I really want to. For the same reason, I'm not so experienced with the live interaction side of this time format, which is something I'm hoping to learn more about.

My home site doesn't have pages, just long scrolls of posts, which actually makes wallposts easier to read than quintaposts n stuff. Wallposting is a habit I've been told to break on a couple of sites with actual pages. Will work on that.

Esooa is the only player here that I've played with before (I mean, who hasn't played with Esooa before at this point?), but I'm sorta familiar with spf's playstyle because I read G6. I'm also familiar with the playstyles of some other players here for reasons I can't talk about.

I feel icky about this. I have never liked when folks explain away n00bish behavior or cultural differences when it hasn't been a problem yet.

im gay

You are my friend :3

hey checking in
will come back later

be still my heart

All that talk of trying extra hard huh.

What is your mafia experience? What sort of things will you be looking for on Day 1?

My experience is a bunch of games, most on AoPS, some on MU, and I'm looking for AI posts like a normal person.

What the fresh hell does this mean? Vague on vague on vague. I am not entertained.
[VOTE: C4] aubergine

Love you domdom <3

What has C4 done? the votes rather came with high speed reading back.

[Rej]

I see people are doing an IP

Pros: right reads
Cons: slacking
Gameplan: pointing out the obvious
Misc.: gets lynched/killed prob before D3

I can assure the misc is based on true events. Ello there mate, how you doin?

heya I am quite okayish, still haunted by headaches, like 20 days in a row now -.-

I think I got night oned in the 50 players game that got hosted here a while ago and I think I threw out some random reads but not much, anyway how are you doing? how is this game progressing for you? I am trying to play with a minimal commitment so do some work for us townies.

[falcon45ca]

i have two townreads but im not gonna say who yet = )

Heya, here to play some low effort, this is the first post that pinged me. I personally don't like posts like this because they are confusing as heck. This could be the most unneccessary soft claim, or this could be a bait, or this could be anything.
I always ask myself why a town should do this, the last time I saw someone do this they ended up masons with someone and they got lynched.

Anyone beat me to this.


Also I see Long Con and KZA are voted currently. I feel whenever I play here Long Con gets voted somehow. Will drop my opinions once I am cought up.

So looks like Rej is Maf

[DrWilgy]

glad to play with you again Dr.!

Yes! You too Poison! Hope all is well with you!

[Esooa]

yeah the/chop are really scummy lol

[Esooa]

rej not the