Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [AMERICA RISES]

[staypositivefriend]

sloonei alison esooa dom long con all townleans

[staypositivefriend]

[VOTE: Urist] aubergine

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I think Urist is going to be the person I sheep blindly this game

[Alison]

sloonei alison esooa dom long con all townleans

I approve of these reads

[staypositivefriend]

I think Urist is going to be the person I sheep blindly this game

do u townread him?

i impulse voted him because i was looking back through his iso, and there was one post he made about foresight that actually pinged me a little bit (viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2055&p=736731#p736731)

i think it's because it felt like he was trying to have his cake and eat it too - acknowledging the error in the read that he made while still finding a way to scumread it. he had an insanely confident scumread on foresight in the early game, and it felt partially like he was trying to fit the post within the framework of a foresight!scum world, instead of evaluating it from a neutral/objective position

i actually dont find it as scummy now that i look at it again tbh, but it felt uncomfortable to me in the moment

[staypositivefriend]

I get the feeling that LC is prob vault city so idk why he's getting wagonned atm but i said i'd sheep mac so
Poison's reaction to tsp on d0 is +enclave
C4 & spf are enclave

Like literally everyone is enclave except lc

what is vault city and why is LC that

Vault city is a 2nd scumteam that is kinda bad but not super bad
Enclave is the primary scumteam and there are allegedly more of them so we should be focusing on that team first
Lc is vc bc c4 voted 4 him

But also like, general reactions to the lc wagon look like those you'd expect of a town wagon, but like lc isn't town so he must be alt-scum

this post bothered me a little bit too, because it felt like urist was presupposing the framework of: "long con is scum", and then analyzing the rest of the game through that framework, instead of evaluating the dynamics of the long con wagon from a neutral position

the mindset implied by this post is a mindset that is so fiercely confident that long con is scum that his framework for the rest of the game is being based around it - e has a lot of posts about foresight that contain a similar dynamic

it's not impossible for urist to be town that's just super confident about themselves, but i don't really feel like their level of confidence is proportional to the reasoning they've outed, or to the amount of content in this game in general. does anyone know if this confidence is atypical for them?

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

oh shit mac is mafia

See how she ignored me calling her mafia and immediately went on the offensive as a defensive tactic. Mafia.

[MacDougall]

Nanook is mafia.

[staypositivefriend]

Nanook is mafia.

maybe. he hasn't towntold yet

[MacDougall]

SPF
Spacedaisy
Dom
Urist
C4

Town

Epi is also mafia.

[MacDougall]

Nanook is mafia.

maybe. he hasn't towntold yet

Yeah something like that.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I think Urist is going to be the person I sheep blindly this game

do u townread him?

i impulse voted him because i was looking back through his iso, and there was one post he made about foresight that actually pinged me a little bit (viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2055&p=736731#p736731)

i think it's because it felt like he was trying to have his cake and eat it too - acknowledging the error in the read that he made while still finding a way to scumread it. he had an insanely confident scumread on foresight in the early game, and it felt partially like he was trying to fit the post within the framework of a foresight!scum world, instead of evaluating it from a neutral/objective position

i actually dont find it as scummy now that i look at it again tbh, but it felt uncomfortable to me in the moment

I urist read him

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Nanook is mafia.

maybe. he hasn't towntold yet

Don’t hold your breath

[Poison]

We rocked the exam people! Lemme read like 13 pages now. damn. toomuch reading for a tiny person like me.

[Poison]

I hit post-cap before everyone else so you're all scum and I am absolutely volume cleared

I'm joking, obviously

i liked it before you said you were joiking. smh.

Shitposting is an interesting strat.
But the real question is, how do you plan to use it?

how do you plan to use our answers to this sir? @ChopChop

[Alison]

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

oh shit mac is mafia

See how she ignored me calling her mafia and immediately went on the offensive as a defensive tactic. Mafia.

Not sure how else you expect me to react to a naked vote/accusation on me. I think it's largely NAI and you'd probably do it as either alignment.

I suspect you because I think you'd read LC similarly to me if we shared an alignment. Why are you voting LC?

[Poison]

Pros: IDK
Cons: IDK (X2)

[I don't know shits about my play]
Gameplan: A FUN GAME. SHIT POSTS. HEATED ARGUMENTS. "OH MY GOD YOU ARE SUS"
Misc.: I love penguins.

i agree

[Poison]

hard claim green team I think I am town I guess

I believe this.


Do we have post caps this game?

[Poison]

hard claim green team I think I am town I guess

Yeah think?

Hey um, greens the mafia in this game.
You green?

Wasn't green JJJ? Dude's an enemy .

Pros: Mafia God
Cons: Will get capped n1
Gameplan: Identify the Mafia by reading their posts and deducing they are mafia
Misc: Daddy

Mac's pfp is making me feel like a gentleman who lost his glasses and went to the church and is now squinting his eyes.

Hello everyone, name is DrWilgy.

Pros: Most definitely a doctor
Cons: Most definitely a doctor
Gameplan: Most definitely a doctor
Misc: Most definitely a doctor

It is a pleasure to make your acquaintance.

glad to play with you again Dr.!

[Poison]

Lol your idea of how to win is "lets all just try heaps hard". So idealistic. You can be town.

kinda sheeeeep this.

I see people are doing an IP

Pros: right reads
Cons: slacking
Gameplan: pointing out the obvious
Misc.: gets lynched/killed prob before D3

I can assure the misc is based on true events. Ello there mate, how you doin?

Summary so far:
Poison: Shitposter+

I LOVE HOW THERE'S A PLUS after SHITPOSTER <33333333333333333333

Pros: Tenacity
Cons: Personality
Game Plan: Kill All Scum
Misc: Hilarity

gut read, this is scum.

[Poison]

wait, you people are going to hate me for catching out loud in the thread right?

[Poison]

All that talk of trying extra hard huh.

What is your mafia experience? What sort of things will you be looking for on Day 1?

My experience is a bunch of games, most on AoPS, some on MU, and I'm looking for AI posts like a normal person.

I wanna town read you but i'm no normal person.

btw, i think SPF kinda towny?

[Poison]

c4 -> see-four -> see-fore -> fore-see -> foresight

[VOTE: c4e5g3d5] aubergine

Poison & Long Con are mafia as well.
TSP is a maybe

I ship this reads.

why is TSP a maybe? shouldn't he be locked bad? @Urist

[Poison]

[VOTE: c4e5g3d5] aubergine

Poison & Long Con are mafia as well.
TSP is a maybe

why are poison & long con mafia

Their posts are bad.
I guess you agree on c4 since you didn't ask about that one

When I was serving in WWI , someone said the exact same thing. @bold

sloonei is mafia

probably

I owe someone a thing. I was going to do this before eod0 but then I fell asleep. The best laid plans...

pros: limited
cons: f3 thrower
gameplan: sheep smart people then make a passionate case on d3 and get a townie chopped

still a scum. yes.


honestly, spf sounds towny to me.

[Poison]

Pros: Yes
Cons: Long
Gameplan: N/A
Misc.: Data missing

My dating app matched us up for same Cons. Wanna mason?

I am actually going to slap a serious-but-early town read on LC for this post. Casual joke from the implicit perspective of a civilian on Day 0. I like Bachelor #1 here.

I scum read sloonei for this post. Saying someone is towny for something like mentioning masons being implicit town perspective just seems fake. It's a completely normal and easy thing to do, that I don't really feel like portrays a towny perspective the way sloonei does.

what about his other posts? @Esooa

[Poison]

Poison is mafia.

shit.

[Poison]

Stealing mac's reads too tyty

same. what do you think about rej btw?

[Poison]

i feel really bored while reading all these, ping me when someone's here, let's do live interaction.

[staypositivefriend]

sup poison

im about to go to bed, but would you mind summarizing the reads you have for me? strongest townreads? scumlenas?

[c4e5g3d5]

Still catching up.

All that talk of trying extra hard huh.

What is your mafia experience? What sort of things will you be looking for on Day 1?

My experience is a bunch of games, most on AoPS, some on MU, and I'm looking for AI posts like a normal person.

What the fresh hell does this mean? Vague on vague on vague. I am not entertained.
[VOTE: C4] aubergine

Nani the fuck you picked the single least vague post I've made in this entire thread to call vague. Fake read sir.

[c4e5g3d5]

Spoiler: show

Hey guys, metadiving is a huge PITA and so is figuring out whether NAI playstyle stuff is actually NAI playstyle stuff or not, so everyone gimme some playstyle cliffnotes. Here are mine.

Pros: Bunch o' stuff.
Cons: Can't brown nose for shit. Can't PR read for shit.
Gameplan: Make bad reads until I can make good reads.
Misc.: *deep inhale*

The shortest cycle length ever to be run on my home site was one 3/1 game, and most cycle lengths are things like 10/2 and 14/2, so TS cycles are definitely pretty fast for me. I've played a few 2/1 games on MU, so I can still keep up with reading for sure, and I can still make reads for sure, but don't expect me to highpost unless I really want to. For the same reason, I'm not so experienced with the live interaction side of this time format, which is something I'm hoping to learn more about.

My home site doesn't have pages, just long scrolls of posts, which actually makes wallposts easier to read than quintaposts n stuff. Wallposting is a habit I've been told to break on a couple of sites with actual pages. Will work on that.

Esooa is the only player here that I've played with before (I mean, who hasn't played with Esooa before at this point?), but I'm sorta familiar with spf's playstyle because I read G6. I'm also familiar with the playstyles of some other players here for reasons I can't talk about.

I feel icky about this. I have never liked when folks explain away n00bish behavior or cultural differences when it hasn't been a problem yet.

All that talk of trying extra hard huh.

What is your mafia experience? What sort of things will you be looking for on Day 1?

My experience is a bunch of games, most on AoPS, some on MU, and I'm looking for AI posts like a normal person.

What the fresh hell does this mean? Vague on vague on vague. I am not entertained.
[VOTE: C4] aubergine

Holy fuck are you forced to talk like this or something?

Anyway, ISO me and you should find it pretty quickly.

"Hopefully they'll answer my question"
"no ( : <3"

Dom enters the thread.
Dom immediately jumps on everything I've said.
Dom doesn't remotely attempt to understand anything I've said.
Dom knows where to look immediately.
Dom did not form this opinion in this thread.
Dom formed this opinion in another thread.
Bye.
[VOTE: Dom] aubergine

[c4e5g3d5]

I get the feeling that LC is prob vault city so idk why he's getting wagonned atm but i said i'd sheep mac so
Poison's reaction to tsp on d0 is +enclave
C4 & spf are enclave

Like literally everyone is enclave except lc

Holy shit this post can't possibly be NAI but wtf is it actually indicating?

[c4e5g3d5]

I get the feeling that LC is prob vault city so idk why he's getting wagonned atm but i said i'd sheep mac so
Poison's reaction to tsp on d0 is +enclave
C4 & spf are enclave

Like literally everyone is enclave except lc

what is vault city and why is LC that

Vault city is a 2nd scumteam that is kinda bad but not super bad
Enclave is the primary scumteam and there are allegedly more of them so we should be focusing on that team first
Lc is vc bc c4 voted 4 him

lol I see

You're that confident on c4?

He was clearly incredibly anxious under the slightest bit of pressure, selfvoted and then quickly changed it to another "joke" vote, and is just saying generally silly maf-indicative things like "u accuse me but ur not voting me!!!1!"

[Urist]

[VOTE: c4e5g3d5] aubergine

Poison & Long Con are mafia as well.
TSP is a maybe

uh oh

my reads align with Urist

something is wrong

[Long Con]

wait, you people are going to hate me for catching out loud in the thread right?

Catching wolves? I say do it loud and proud!

Still catching up.

All that talk of trying extra hard huh.

What is your mafia experience? What sort of things will you be looking for on Day 1?

My experience is a bunch of games, most on AoPS, some on MU, and I'm looking for AI posts like a normal person.

What the fresh hell does this mean? Vague on vague on vague. I am not entertained.
[VOTE: C4] aubergine

Nani the fuck you picked the single least vague post I've made in this entire thread to call vague. Fake read sir.

What do you mean "fake read"? Why is that wolfy? What is "Nani the fuck"?

[Long Con]

Sloonei, Dom town. Esooa mafia. Alison/Joseph unaligned. Daisy town. C4 mafia. Poison town.

Heading to work.

[Urist]

I get the feeling that LC is prob vault city so idk why he's getting wagonned atm but i said i'd sheep mac so
Poison's reaction to tsp on d0 is +enclave
C4 & spf are enclave

Like literally everyone is enclave except lc

what is vault city and why is LC that

Vault city is a 2nd scumteam that is kinda bad but not super bad
Enclave is the primary scumteam and there are allegedly more of them so we should be focusing on that team first
Lc is vc bc c4 voted 4 him

why can't LC be town being voted by scum c4

It was half a joke, like certain things pointing to him being town but me not wanting to admit he could be.
Either way I'm not super interested in sorting lc today but i'm waiting for other people to post stuff before changing my vote

[Urist]

Kinda sad that alison changed her reads to be inconsistent with my own

[Urist]

Stealing mac's reads too tyty

same. what do you think about rej btw?

No read. He's posted like twice ya?

[c4e5g3d5]

i townlean esooa

can you explain this a bit more

my understanding is that your scum game is fairly rigid and focused on asserting specific agendas/narratives within the thread - i haven't felt at all like you've been trying to reinforce any specific narratives with your approach in this game. you made a post defending me and then immediately made a post pointing out something about me that you find suspicious. you came into the game w/a slightly aggressive push on sloonei, and then your tone toward him subtly softened after you had an exchange. you've been pushy about getting people to acknowledge your long con read, but in a way that feels more like it stems from the frustration of being unheard and not because you want long con to perceived in a specific way

it just feels agenda-free, and i usually take that as a good sign for you. this post made me re-skim your iso, and i will say that viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2055&p=736533#p736533 made me a little nervous lol - made me wonder if that post was a roundabout way of trying to pocket me, by playing up your concern about me

I'm noting this in my iso for if I read back. Do other people who know Esooa think this is accurate?

Can confirm

[c4e5g3d5]

let's be honest who here understands this game

The game of Mafia is a game with an uninformed majority known as the town and an informed minority known as the mafia. The players may collectively choose one player to eliminate by vote every game cycle, and the mafia may collectively do the same privately. Each faction's objective is to eliminate or insure the elimination of the other.

am I jumping the shark if I said this looks like an attempt to pocket sloonei

Uh
Yes

[c4e5g3d5]

Still catching up.

All that talk of trying extra hard huh.

What is your mafia experience? What sort of things will you be looking for on Day 1?

My experience is a bunch of games, most on AoPS, some on MU, and I'm looking for AI posts like a normal person.

What the fresh hell does this mean? Vague on vague on vague. I am not entertained.
[VOTE: C4] aubergine

Nani the fuck you picked the single least vague post I've made in this entire thread to call vague. Fake read sir.

What do you mean "fake read"? Why is that wolfy? What is "Nani the fuck"?

Fake read: A read that isn't real
Wolfy: Dom wasn't actually trying to evaluate me but was acting like he was
Nani the fuck: Wtf

[Gavial]

Going to sleep now bye
Looking forward to waking up to 30 fucktons of posts

How about a nice Chuck of 300 instead?

[Gavial]

Poison is mafia.

shit.

Quick Poison!
Run back into scum chat with me!
They into us!

[Gavial]

Still catching up.

All that talk of trying extra hard huh.

What is your mafia experience? What sort of things will you be looking for on Day 1?

My experience is a bunch of games, most on AoPS, some on MU, and I'm looking for AI posts like a normal person.

What the fresh hell does this mean? Vague on vague on vague. I am not entertained.
[VOTE: C4] aubergine

Nani the fuck you picked the single least vague post I've made in this entire thread to call vague. Fake read sir.

What do you mean "fake read"? Why is that wolfy? What is "Nani the fuck"?

Fake read: A read that isn't real
Wolfy: Dom wasn't actually trying to evaluate me but was acting like he was
Nani the fuck: Wtf

What if I told you, 50% of the Reads happening this game.
Are Fake!

[TonyStarkPrime]

Yeah that’s a wolf right

[Gavial]

I get the feeling that LC is prob vault city so idk why he's getting wagonned atm but i said i'd sheep mac so
Poison's reaction to tsp on d0 is +enclave
C4 & spf are enclave

Like literally everyone is enclave except lc

Holy shit this post can't possibly be NAI but wtf is it actually indicating?

That he’s got the hots for LC.

[Gavial]

Yeah that’s a wolf right

Call me that again.

[Gavial]

Please, I’m dying for an interaction over here!
Been like memeing this entire time.

[c4e5g3d5]

Yeah that’s a wolf right

Call me that again.

Wolf