Game of Champions 2020 [ENDGAME]

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Alison
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Kylemii
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Michelle
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Syn
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Sloonei wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:06 pm
Master Radishes wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:04 pm Syn do you need me to like out my targets or something? Or my role?
Someone out there is stirring a big pot of soup and licking their lips.
i dont know if a soup kill would even work in a closed setup

in an open setup u know the roles and u can assign person to known role

in a closed setup all the roles are bizarre and u have no way of knowing them

for instance jack can claim his weird simpsons role and then what do the scum do when submitting soup kill?

how did ur nutella work in radiohead again sloonei? oh yea that was song flavor

like song flavors is still something tangible

i think if there are any soup kills here its the flavor - thats tangible

the properties of the roles themselves are all way too weird to be tangible for a soup kill imo
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Sloonei wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:06 pm
Master Radishes wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:04 pm Syn do you need me to like out my targets or something? Or my role?
Someone out there is stirring a big pot of soup and licking their lips.
I'd rather be vague, but I'm not going to let someone misunderstanding their role results or whatever get me mischopped after all the work I've put into this game.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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so far i think radish's reaction has been scummy
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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I'm on my phone at work. Let me get home and do this properly.

Syn is misunderstanding a result he got or something and I'm actually going to be so tilted if I get chopped for this.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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tutuu wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:35 pm @112
@DrWilgy
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kyle claims mech info that tutuu town
syn claims mech info that radish scum

game game game game
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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@Timsup2nothin I noticed Mac has placed a vote with the spectators, hosts, and other dead votes. Did he finally say anything in the chat?
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Hyena wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:39 am
Hyena wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:37 am Mweh, I think I should get to bed. I don't know if I'm making sense right now.
Reminder to self: Confirm that Dizzy WAS voting 112 at one point, then try to find the reason behind them switching off of 112.
And heeeeere we go. This was all from D3 within the last 24 hours of the day,
Dyslexicon wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 6:56 am Sheeping on 112

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

Totally didn't buy his suspicion on me and "there's not enough votes on Dizzy" on D1 anyway.
If 112 is scum, I know I thought D1 that Nanook/112 could be a thing, though tbh I don't remember why.
Dyslexicon wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:14 pm I probably have no reservation to vote any of 112, Wilgy, HK or Nanook. I don't feel like I appologizing for not paying that much attention to this game. It is what it is.

I have absolutely no opinion on Sloonei.

Jack replaced Thunal, right? I don't even have an opinion there, though I probably should.
Dyslexicon wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:15 pm Actually, I'm moving back to Wilgy, cause I just am.

[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine
So basically, in spite of having "no reservation" to vote 112, Nanook, and two others, Dizzy goes with Wilgy. He even mentions that he suspected Nanook and 112 could be together. However, he doesn't ever vote for Nanook (who ended up flipping scum), and he never rejoins the 112 wagon after leaving it (it was in the lead for a while).
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Here are another two posts that I want to show.

This one is from D3 as well, after he voted Wilgy,
Dyslexicon wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:21 pm
112 wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:16 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:06 pm
112 wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:59 pm tbh my poe is a lot bigger than 3 tho
What's your current PoE?
dizzy
nanook
hk
made
martin
tsp
falcon

ted and kyle honourable mentions
Is Wilgy in your PoE?
And this is the first post he made D4,
Dyslexicon wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:50 am Boop. I'm going to say this totally confirms that I can read Nanook for unsubstantial vibe things.

What is the PoE now? Help.
Also, how many mafia left, like 3?

I know I thought 112 could be teamed with Nanook at some point, but I don't remember if my reasons were good.
Now @Dyslexicon, if you were confident that you could read Nanook and you had a scumread on him, why did you vote Wilgy over Nanook?
Also, if Wilgy seemed more scummy to you during D3 than Nanook, why are you voting Sloonei right now over Wilgy now that we know Nanook was scum? If Wilgy was more scummy to you than Nanook, who flipped scum, should you want to resolve Wilgy right now?
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Also,
Dyslexicon wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:01 am @Master Radishes I am once again asking you to help me. I just can't get a good enough overview of this game. Can you please tell me the following things:

- What is the case on Tutu?
- What is the case on Martin?
- What do you think about 112?

I'd be forever grateful.
this post, also from D4, becomes really interesting to me if Radishes is, indeed, scum.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Dyslexicon was not on my radar at all. That's an intriguing interaction read.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Hyena wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:36 pm Also,
Dyslexicon wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:01 am @Master Radishes I am once again asking you to help me. I just can't get a good enough overview of this game. Can you please tell me the following things:

- What is the case on Tutu?
- What is the case on Martin?
- What do you think about 112?

I'd be forever grateful.
this post, also from D4, becomes really interesting to me if Radishes is, indeed, scum.
Do you think tutuu is villager?
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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regardless of anyone's alignment my reads have been terrible this game thats all i know

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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Hyena wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:36 pm Also,
Dyslexicon wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:01 am @Master Radishes I am once again asking you to help me. I just can't get a good enough overview of this game. Can you please tell me the following things:

- What is the case on Tutu?
- What is the case on Martin?
- What do you think about 112?

I'd be forever grateful.
this post, also from D4, becomes really interesting to me if Radishes is, indeed, scum.
Interesting that you're not voting me.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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What if I pretend Radishes calling bullshit at my rez is a mindset slip? Could I then jettison my reads to match infodumps?
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Michelle wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:48 pm
Hyena wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:36 pm Also,
Dyslexicon wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:01 am @Master Radishes I am once again asking you to help me. I just can't get a good enough overview of this game. Can you please tell me the following things:

- What is the case on Tutu?
- What is the case on Martin?
- What do you think about 112?

I'd be forever grateful.
this post, also from D4, becomes really interesting to me if Radishes is, indeed, scum.
Do you think tutuu is villager?
Honestly, I don't care about Tutuu right now. I care more about the person who left the 112 wagon yesterday to vote Wilgy in spite of scumreading both 112 AND Nanook. I care more about the person who's NOT voting Wilgy right now in spite of scumreading him more than he did Nanook (who flipped mafia) yesterday.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Master Radishes wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:50 pm
Hyena wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:36 pm Also,
Dyslexicon wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:01 am @Master Radishes I am once again asking you to help me. I just can't get a good enough overview of this game. Can you please tell me the following things:

- What is the case on Tutu?
- What is the case on Martin?
- What do you think about 112?

I'd be forever grateful.
this post, also from D4, becomes really interesting to me if Radishes is, indeed, scum.
Interesting that you're not voting me.
I'm not voting anyone at the moment.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Hyena wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:53 pm
Michelle wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:48 pm
Hyena wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:36 pm Also,
Dyslexicon wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:01 am @Master Radishes I am once again asking you to help me. I just can't get a good enough overview of this game. Can you please tell me the following things:

- What is the case on Tutu?
- What is the case on Martin?
- What do you think about 112?

I'd be forever grateful.
this post, also from D4, becomes really interesting to me if Radishes is, indeed, scum.
Do you think tutuu is villager?
Honestly, I don't care about Tutuu right now. I care more about the person who left the 112 wagon yesterday to vote Wilgy in spite of scumreading both 112 AND Nanook. I care more about the person who's NOT voting Wilgy right now in spite of scumreading him more than he did Nanook (who flipped mafia) yesterday.
yea go get them tiger

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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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mafia is easy just have good teammates to kill the bad guys while u shitpost and be useless
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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tutuu wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:58 pm mafia is easy just have good teammates to kill the bad guys while u shitpost and be useless
This is my usual strategy and I'm going back to it after this game.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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hyena, wilgy is a likely scum candidate fmpov so it doesn’t mean much yet
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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also, for any other younginz who may be here

don’t go to university, go full pro twitch streamer, trust me
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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tedxtr wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:07 pm hyena, wilgy is a likely scum candidate fmpov so it doesn’t mean much yet
Okay, but is Sloonei also a likely scum candidate? That's who Dizzy is voting for right now rather than Wilgy.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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What is this gossip about Radish being the scum I wanted him to be in the very beginning? Can someone explain, or do I have to read things?
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Dyslexicon wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:10 pm What is this gossip about Radish being the scum I wanted him to be in the very beginning? Can someone explain, or do I have to read things?
Now that you're here, how would you order/rank Wilgy, 112, and Sloonei from most scummy to least?
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Hyena, can you just get off my case lol
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Hyena wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:09 pm
tedxtr wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:07 pm hyena, wilgy is a likely scum candidate fmpov so it doesn’t mean much yet
Okay, but is Sloonei also a likely scum candidate? That's who Dizzy is voting for right now rather than Wilgy.
you mean the strong player that got silenced n1?

let’s see...

smart money would be on “no”
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Dyslexicon wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:10 pm What is this gossip about Radish being the scum I wanted him to be in the very beginning? Can someone explain, or do I have to read things?
Syn is insisting he has mech info that I'm scum and he does not.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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and i may be a suckah but radishes’ response to the outing thing is townie

maybe i’m just gonna vote for kyle
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Dyslexicon wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:11 pm Hyena, can you just get off my case lol
Why?
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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tedxtr wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:12 pm
Hyena wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:09 pm
tedxtr wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:07 pm hyena, wilgy is a likely scum candidate fmpov so it doesn’t mean much yet
Okay, but is Sloonei also a likely scum candidate? That's who Dizzy is voting for right now rather than Wilgy.
you mean the strong player that got silenced n1?

let’s see...

smart money would be on “no”
Okay, why is Dizzy voting for Sloonei right now then over Wilgy or 112?
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Hyena wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:14 pm
tedxtr wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:12 pm
Hyena wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:09 pm
tedxtr wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:07 pm hyena, wilgy is a likely scum candidate fmpov so it doesn’t mean much yet
Okay, but is Sloonei also a likely scum candidate? That's who Dizzy is voting for right now rather than Wilgy.
you mean the strong player that got silenced n1?

let’s see...

smart money would be on “no”
Okay, why is Dizzy voting for Sloonei right now then over Wilgy or 112?
why would a wolf vote sloonei right now?
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Hyena wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:11 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:10 pm What is this gossip about Radish being the scum I wanted him to be in the very beginning? Can someone explain, or do I have to read things?
Now that you're here, how would you order/rank Wilgy, 112, and Sloonei from most scummy to least?
I really don't know. I would say Sloonei at the bottom last time I was in thread, but then I read one post from him now and I want to change that. That's how I work. Wilgy, I don't think I've read anything from except one post Tedx quoted. Can't even remember why I disliked it. 112 I have more tangible issues with, but I'm still not confident in my read. Some of her posts has seemed fiery in a town way. If you force me to rank I'd say Wilgy-112-Sloonei from scum to town right now, but that's basically random and it could change.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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i think that we can actually yeet nutella if we want if we all vote for "this space is intentionally left blank" how hilarious would that be she'd be so mad lmao
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Hyenas case on Dizzy is super nitpicky and not at all convincing tbh.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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tedxtr wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:14 pm
Hyena wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:14 pm
tedxtr wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:12 pm
Hyena wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:09 pm
tedxtr wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:07 pm hyena, wilgy is a likely scum candidate fmpov so it doesn’t mean much yet
Okay, but is Sloonei also a likely scum candidate? That's who Dizzy is voting for right now rather than Wilgy.
you mean the strong player that got silenced n1?

let’s see...

smart money would be on “no”
Okay, why is Dizzy voting for Sloonei right now then over Wilgy or 112?
why would a wolf vote sloonei right now?
To avoid having to vote for another wolf, like I suspect Dizzy did D3 when he voted Wilgy over 112 and Nanook.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Like Dizzy can still be a wolf but not because of his voting.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Hyena wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:13 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:11 pm Hyena, can you just get off my case lol
Why?
Because I'm town. Your issues with me seems to be my voting? I literally have no idea who I suspect more or less. Every time someone pops in and says something to me, it makes me want to vote elsewhere. This pretty much always happens, and especially when I feel all my reasoning for suspecting people are as intangible as they are. I returned to Nanook as likely scum most of the game, because I heard others say so (and for Nanook, I think thread consensus means something) and I kind of felt the same for vibes reasons. I remember they were my top yeet option after game resumed. Him being around and talking to him made me want to vote elsewhere. I didn't know where and I actually think I ended up with no vote on D2 (this game is pretty far back in my mind compared to most games tbh, so I just forgot to return.) This moving of my vote also happened with 112 actually. She posted something fiery which made me think what if she's town, and then I want to move. I mean, it's pretty classic. I have no strong preference between my suspects, I'm sheeping thread consensus a lot. This is not typical for me as scum, but is in fact very typical of me as town, especially when I have such a limited overview of what's happening myself.

I don't know if this helps you any.

I'm more interested in what's happening with Radish now.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Master Radishes wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:22 pm Hyenas case on Dizzy is super nitpicky and not at all convincing tbh.
After seeing Dizzy's interaction with you from earlier, I'm not concerned about convincing you. I don't think I'm concerned about convincing Ted either. I've been calling him scum since D2, too.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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radishes being here and posting after syn revealed his check probably brings him a few points.

he may just have the WIM though (GoC et all)
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Hyena wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:22 pmTo avoid having to vote for another wolf, like I suspect Dizzy did D3 when he voted Wilgy over 112 and Nanook.
That's just a random theory. I voted Wilgy as town. Why would I not vote Wilgy as town? I haven't been super invested in any yeets to be honest. I've expressed my worries about Nanook plenty, I think, and put attention there more than most places.

You're kind of disregarding a lot of other stuff here though. But I don't really care to talk in circles with you about this unless you're craving it and are willing to listen.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Dyslexicon wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:25 pmI'm sheeping thread consensus a lot.
But you didn't sheep thread consensus. Thread consensus at the time you moved your vote away from 112 on D3 was, in fact, 112. Thus, you were actually going AGAINST thread consensus at the time.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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we’re probably just stuck in voting for radishes today, anyway
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Master Radishes wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:12 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:10 pm What is this gossip about Radish being the scum I wanted him to be in the very beginning? Can someone explain, or do I have to read things?
Syn is insisting he has mech info that I'm scum and he does not.
Can I get points for calling out your early post if you are scum?

I'll check Syn's posts.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Dyslexicon wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:28 pm
Hyena wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:22 pmTo avoid having to vote for another wolf, like I suspect Dizzy did D3 when he voted Wilgy over 112 and Nanook.
That's just a random theory. I voted Wilgy as town. Why would I not vote Wilgy as town? I haven't been super invested in any yeets to be honest. I've expressed my worries about Nanook plenty, I think, and put attention there more than most places.

You're kind of disregarding a lot of other stuff here though. But I don't really care to talk in circles with you about this unless you're craving it and are willing to listen.
Why aren't you voting Wilgy right now though? If you thought it was worth voting Wilgy during D3 when it wasn't thread consensus, why aren't you voting him right now? Was your scumread on Wilgy stronger than the one you had on Nanook? If so, Nanook flipped scum -- why doesn't that make you want to pursue Wilgy more?
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Thought about reading everything since I went to bed, and I probably will...but...


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Hyena handing out seance ability is confirmed, I am in a chat with Mac.

During their mason chat Nutella informed him that her role was to swap with a dead. Jack's back, that's that. It is possible that the swap removed Nutella and thwarted a NK targeting her.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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tedxtr wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:27 pm radishes being here and posting after syn revealed his check probably brings him a few points.

he may just have the WIM though (GoC et all)
syn did say that his thing isnt concrete

i think radish's reaction was scummy, i think calling out hyena of all people for not voting him was weird, wasnt he consensus town? why tinfoil hynea for TMIing u and not other ppl who werent in radish's townreads?

would have to wait until he gets back from work im curious how this goes

i have reasons to distrust syn's reads based off day talk but i have no reason to distrust syn's ability to appropriately react to mechanical insight

if things dont dramatically change im all about killing mr radishy
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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tedxtr wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:13 pm and i may be a suckah but radishes’ response to the outing thing is townie

maybe i’m just gonna vote for kyle
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Hyena wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:28 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:25 pmI'm sheeping thread consensus a lot.
But you didn't sheep thread consensus. Thread consensus at the time you moved your vote away from 112 on D3 was, in fact, 112. Thus, you were actually going AGAINST thread consensus at the time.
OH MY GOD. I'm not like directly sheeping the utmost consensus at all time. I was not going against thread consensus as I still voted within general PoE. My PoE is a mix of consensus, whatever I have on my mind at the time, whatever I've read, whatever the ones I'm trusting the most are saying. I'm not a fucking machine. I move my vote a lot. I don't have a grand plan. What is your problem.

Look. My last three scum games were all mafia sweeps where I had a dominant position in the thread. Not that I can't be busy as scum probably, but it's a safe bet to assume I would be more on top of things. You can't know that probably, so whatever. But this badgering is just annoying me, and you seem to go "gotcha!" for the most random things and I'm not really interested.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Timsup2nothin wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:31 pm Thought about reading everything since I went to bed, and I probably will...but...


IMPORTANT MECH STUFF


Hyena handing out seance ability is confirmed, I am in a chat with Mac.

During their mason chat Nutella informed him that her role was to swap with a dead. Jack's back, that's that. It is possible that the swap removed Nutella and thwarted a NK targeting her.
Can you ask him why he suspected JPIC EoD2? That was the day phase right before he died.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]

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Timsup2nothin wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:31 pm Thought about reading everything since I went to bed, and I probably will...but...


IMPORTANT MECH STUFF


Hyena handing out seance ability is confirmed, I am in a chat with Mac.

During their mason chat Nutella informed him that her role was to swap with a dead. Jack's back, that's that. It is possible that the swap removed Nutella and thwarted a NK targeting her.
I wonder how mad she is that she sacrificed herself for a cop who thought his role was just funny words
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