Bread Mafia [Game Over]

[Grogu]

This is the most I ever posted on a game by far I believe. I must have like 200 posts. That’s ridiculous.
Also I have been forthcoming the whole game. I have struggled to see “scum”.
I have felt that neither do most players here as shown by who we baked so far.
I think the leaders are leading us to hell.

That being said:
I don’t see why tutuu gets shot by scum...
I believe she’s likely scum, but I don’t know how to prove that or look at posts and say: there I found the clues.
People I don’t trust either:
koba, jagged, esso and the aforementioned tuttuu but this later one I’m not sure about.
Trust me or not, we are all wrong and I highly believe Alison is another miss. They are like me and omega just easy low hanging fruits. If any of us is scum is likely omega since someone said he was a great player and I have yet to see that so he’s likely fooling us.

[nutella]

Koba flipping out at jay, and their general vibe coming into this gamestate, is super likely scum imo. I'm still going for Alison first but I think they fit together (and Alison's reaction to the Jay/Koba interaction was so opposite from mine so...yeah)

[DkKoba]

Gang, in this environment people are gonna have suspicions of you if your name is not exactly Michelle, Made, or SPF.

Please stop getting pissed off at folks for playing the game. Town does not know the answer, and clearly the answer is not an easy one to find in this game. You're gonna get questions, and you're gonna face suspicion. I know the same applies to me.

This. Koba's vibes are not good here. Their reaction to the poe narrowing is unlike the rest of ours and it kinda feels like they're snapping at anything and everything. I accept that there are townies who are more cleared than me and hence I'm in the broader poe even though I'm town as shit. I'm not mech locked so analysis on me is welcome. Koba needs to realize the same applies to themself.

maybe because ive been trying to get ppl to listen to me since d2 and ppl just let town wagons go brr for free and im not letting u lead another town wagon when u probably did at daystart which prompted all these pr claims.

but hey what do i know about mafia huh

[Made]

This is the most I ever posted on a game by far I believe. I must have like 200 posts. That’s ridiculous.
Also I have been forthcoming the whole game. I have struggled to see “scum”.
I have felt that neither do most players here as shown by who we baked so far.
I think the leaders are leading us to hell.

That being said:
I don’t see why tutuu gets shot by scum...
I believe she’s likely scum, but I don’t know how to prove that or look at posts and say: there I found the clues.
People I don’t trust either:
koba, jagged, esso and the aforementioned tuttuu but this later one I’m not sure about.
Trust me or not, we are all wrong and I highly believe Alison is another miss. They are like me and omega just easy low hanging fruits. If any of us is scum is likely omega since someone said he was a great player and I have yet to see that so he’s likely fooling us.

what are you thinking about Nanook and JJJ?

[DkKoba]

Koba flipping out at jay, and their general vibe coming into this gamestate, is super likely scum imo. I'm still going for Alison first but I think they fit together (and Alison's reaction to the Jay/Koba interaction was so opposite from mine so...yeah)

how is it scum?

[DkKoba]

lmfaooooooooooo nutella reaching so hard rn

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Whoever it is, y'all have played a fabulous mafia game. There isn't a player here that I could point to who hasn't at one point or another made me say to myself "okay, that's town"

[nutella]

Gang, in this environment people are gonna have suspicions of you if your name is not exactly Michelle, Made, or SPF.

Please stop getting pissed off at folks for playing the game. Town does not know the answer, and clearly the answer is not an easy one to find in this game. You're gonna get questions, and you're gonna face suspicion. I know the same applies to me.

This. Koba's vibes are not good here. Their reaction to the poe narrowing is unlike the rest of ours and it kinda feels like they're snapping at anything and everything. I accept that there are townies who are more cleared than me and hence I'm in the broader poe even though I'm town as shit. I'm not mech locked so analysis on me is welcome. Koba needs to realize the same applies to themself.

I don't want to say too much here out of fear of making things weird, but Koba, Omega, and Tutuu all kind reacted this way entering thread as the PoE moved towards them.

I think it could be town thing. This game has felt so weird as town imo, Michelle and SPF had said the same thing.

like imagine the game were different: Koba cop clears Omega and Tutuu, and then Grugo came out at Jailkeep after Esooa flips town. New PoE would of became Michelle Ellie Made I and I would of been beyonnndd tight

I didn't think tutuu reacted similarly?

[DkKoba]

nutella substituting a personal reason for me to be removed from the game rather than an alignment indicative one.

idgaf how much u know this person's meta take my 3rd party perspective that shes been scummy as fuck all game and ive been saying it since day 2 and no one has listened

[Alison]

I thought you were fairly confident and thought the mafia had been dealt a sore blow earlier, but now you're giving off "bleh this game is hard everyone's a suspect" vibes

They have definitely been dealt a sore blow.

The game is still hard. Look around you. We have a lot of work to do, and that means people gonna face suspicion. I am sick and tired of the bad vibes that have no reason to exist. It's not what Mafia is about.

I don't disagree the game isn't won yet but I do think there's a difference between "we're all fumbling about cluelessly in the dark", which is the vibe I got from your post, and "we have a solid idea of where the mafia is hiding, but we need to tease them out of those hiding spots", which is where I'm at right now.

I agree with the second sentiment and don't think Jay was expressing the first, I think he was expressing the second where Koba is one of the places mafia may be hiding. Do you disagree?

I interpreted his statement about everyone being a suspect as hinting at the first sentiment. I have Koba as 2nd top townread aside from clears so yes I disagree

[Esooa]

my hope is that Alison or Grogu flip mafia, so that I can post my interactions with them and be town lol

This is very bad post. Not only is clear I am town, but Alison is clearly town also. This is concerning post, didn’t you post you used to be a monster at this game? You are as clueless as I am.
Monster inc. type of monster you are

are u trying to spew your partner rn

[VOTE: grogu] aubergine

[nutella]

Gang, in this environment people are gonna have suspicions of you if your name is not exactly Michelle, Made, or SPF.

Please stop getting pissed off at folks for playing the game. Town does not know the answer, and clearly the answer is not an easy one to find in this game. You're gonna get questions, and you're gonna face suspicion. I know the same applies to me.

This. Koba's vibes are not good here. Their reaction to the poe narrowing is unlike the rest of ours and it kinda feels like they're snapping at anything and everything. I accept that there are townies who are more cleared than me and hence I'm in the broader poe even though I'm town as shit. I'm not mech locked so analysis on me is welcome. Koba needs to realize the same applies to themself.

maybe because ive been trying to get ppl to listen to me since d2 and ppl just let town wagons go brr for free and im not letting u lead another town wagon when u probably did at daystart which prompted all these pr claims.

but hey what do i know about mafia huh

I voted made at daystart before he claimed cop. Fucking sue me.

[nutella]

Nobody's listening to you because your tunnel is bad.

[Made]

by the post count, it's clear this a very high investment game for everyone regardless of AI. I think i'm going to choose not to read too far into salt/lack of salt here.

[DkKoba]

Gang, in this environment people are gonna have suspicions of you if your name is not exactly Michelle, Made, or SPF.

Please stop getting pissed off at folks for playing the game. Town does not know the answer, and clearly the answer is not an easy one to find in this game. You're gonna get questions, and you're gonna face suspicion. I know the same applies to me.

This. Koba's vibes are not good here. Their reaction to the poe narrowing is unlike the rest of ours and it kinda feels like they're snapping at anything and everything. I accept that there are townies who are more cleared than me and hence I'm in the broader poe even though I'm town as shit. I'm not mech locked so analysis on me is welcome. Koba needs to realize the same applies to themself.

maybe because ive been trying to get ppl to listen to me since d2 and ppl just let town wagons go brr for free and im not letting u lead another town wagon when u probably did at daystart which prompted all these pr claims.

but hey what do i know about mafia huh

I voted made at daystart before he claimed cop. Fucking sue me.

crazy u only been pushing town and now ur trying to pivot onto me.

if alison flips town im 1000% gunning ur slot and u better shoot me tonight cuz i wont stop till ur in that oven

[tutuu]

I don't want to say too much here out of fear of making things weird, but Koba, Omega, and Tutuu all kind reacted this way entering thread as the PoE moved towards them.

Not sure what you're talking about

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@DkKoba could you please summarize briefly why you think nutella is the right way to go

i can do so tomorrow after work - i just dont think they have been towny overall and have been coasting through based on site clout from what i can see.

their positioning on town wagons is not a good look at all.

i'll give a more concrete case after work tomorrow if thats fine.

If you do this DK I will listen to it. I'll review nutella on my own as well, but your perspective is already different -- help me see what you see.

[DkKoba]

Nobody's listening to you because your tunnel is bad.

crazy how frustrating it is when someone like u whos pushed 3 town slots so far is somehow being considered more town here


ur just omgusing me bc i scumread u

[nutella]

Koba flipping out at jay, and their general vibe coming into this gamestate, is super likely scum imo. I'm still going for Alison first but I think they fit together (and Alison's reaction to the Jay/Koba interaction was so opposite from mine so...yeah)

how is it scum?

When pr claims come out like this and the poe is narrowed, general reactions/vibes are an extremely reliable indicator of alignment. If your sentiments toward the situation don't align with the broader towncore, you're probably just mafia. This was very true in the champs finale as well as plenty of other cases. It may sound dumb but it's legit a real thing, a group of us have been excitedly solving in the newly narrowed poe and your vibes are wayyyyy off.

[Made]

nutella substituting a personal reason for me to be removed from the game rather than an alignment indicative one.

idgaf how much u know this person's meta take my 3rd party perspective that shes been scummy as fuck all game and ive been saying it since day 2 and no one has listened

I've seen it as well, but the fact that Nutella was jailed N1 kinda calmed me down that hill a bit. Not enough to 100 clear her or anything, but to put her aside for now.

If you look at my post about nutella you can see my progression there, might give you perspective

[DkKoba]

Koba flipping out at jay, and their general vibe coming into this gamestate, is super likely scum imo. I'm still going for Alison first but I think they fit together (and Alison's reaction to the Jay/Koba interaction was so opposite from mine so...yeah)

how is it scum?

When pr claims come out like this and the poe is narrowed, general reactions/vibes are an extremely reliable indicator of alignment. If your sentiments toward the situation don't align with the broader towncore, you're probably just mafia. This was very true in the champs finale as well as plenty of other cases. It may sound dumb but it's legit a real thing, a group of us have been excitedly solving in the newly narrowed poe and your vibes are wayyyyy off.

maybe bc i never fucking agreed with the initial PoE

[nutella]

nutella substituting a personal reason for me to be removed from the game rather than an alignment indicative one.

idgaf how much u know this person's meta take my 3rd party perspective that shes been scummy as fuck all game and ive been saying it since day 2 and no one has listened

What even are you talking about

Nothing personal here

Your read is just bad

[Made]

I don't want to say too much here out of fear of making things weird, but Koba, Omega, and Tutuu all kind reacted this way entering thread as the PoE moved towards them.

Not sure what you're talking about

When you said I was corny/cringy for vote analysis you seemed at least a bit annoyed from my pov

[DkKoba]

i dont care how much u think my read that ur scum is bad lmfao

its not ur opinion to accept

[nutella]

Gang, in this environment people are gonna have suspicions of you if your name is not exactly Michelle, Made, or SPF.

Please stop getting pissed off at folks for playing the game. Town does not know the answer, and clearly the answer is not an easy one to find in this game. You're gonna get questions, and you're gonna face suspicion. I know the same applies to me.

This. Koba's vibes are not good here. Their reaction to the poe narrowing is unlike the rest of ours and it kinda feels like they're snapping at anything and everything. I accept that there are townies who are more cleared than me and hence I'm in the broader poe even though I'm town as shit. I'm not mech locked so analysis on me is welcome. Koba needs to realize the same applies to themself.

maybe because ive been trying to get ppl to listen to me since d2 and ppl just let town wagons go brr for free and im not letting u lead another town wagon when u probably did at daystart which prompted all these pr claims.

but hey what do i know about mafia huh

I voted made at daystart before he claimed cop. Fucking sue me.

crazy u only been pushing town and now ur trying to pivot onto me.

if alison flips town im 1000% gunning ur slot and u better shoot me tonight cuz i wont stop till ur in that oven

I'd be surprised if Alison flips town, but if she does I would understand my being in the poe. You'd be getting yet another mischop but like I said I'm not mech locked so I know it's a possibility. You should recognize the same for yourself if you're town here.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

my hope is that Alison or Grogu flip mafia, so that I can post my interactions with them and be town lol

This is very bad post. Not only is clear I am town, but Alison is clearly town also. This is concerning post, didn’t you post you used to be a monster at this game? You are as clueless as I am.
Monster inc. type of monster you are

are u trying to spew your partner rn

[VOTE: grogu] aubergine

why do I hate this post

[nutella]

Nobody's listening to you because your tunnel is bad.

crazy how frustrating it is when someone like u whos pushed 3 town slots so far is somehow being considered more town here


ur just omgusing me bc i scumread u

So i've committed the crime of being wrong in a mafia game


Believe me I would have bussed by now lol

[DkKoba]

i see only one way to make sure this game doesnt descend into a loss

[Grogu]

I think one of two things is happening.

1. Grogu is also town, and the people who started this train that he and I are together, have to be the mafia team, which I hope so, it would be super ez

2. Grogu is the mafia who is being thrown under the bus as the lowest poster of the team and the one with the lowest cred, so the rest of team is trying to attach me to Grogu because eventually grogu maf would die anyways.

@Grogu You and I need to discuss this, and come to the conclusion here. If you and I are town this game is very simple for us both.

I have said this plenty. It is not easy scum team.
We are getting played. I do not have those skills. I have also raised concerns about the people the others have pushed.
I ended up settling on Ellie yesterday, but had a suspicion on jagged and others leading that bothered me. I wanted to see what Ellie flipped first to see if I was just wrong.

[DkKoba]

[VOTE: dkkoba] aubergine - confirm me town here and sheep me. thx

[nutella]

i dont care how much u think my read that ur scum is bad lmfao

its not ur opinion to accept

I mean I literally know that it is wrong.

[nutella]

Please try to actually solve if you're town here, doubling down on the tunnel isn't doing you any favors. If you have an actual case on me do the legwork. "I was on two town wagons" is nothing.

[DkKoba]

nutella/Omega/tutuu/nanook/JJJ
figure it out
in that order

im not gonna hold ur hands anymore

[nutella]

my hope is that Alison or Grogu flip mafia, so that I can post my interactions with them and be town lol

This is very bad post. Not only is clear I am town, but Alison is clearly town also. This is concerning post, didn’t you post you used to be a monster at this game? You are as clueless as I am.
Monster inc. type of monster you are

are u trying to spew your partner rn

[VOTE: grogu] aubergine

why do I hate this post

if i'm reading it right it's kind of leaning on alison being mafia and grogu being their teammate but jumping to a vote on grogu instead of alison? idk

still think esooa is fine, but she's probably where i reevaluate first if alison flips town

[nutella]

wait but that logic implies she's with alison

and i dont really think that


so no i'm not sure what's wrong with that take

i think i agreed with her that it looked bad for grogu

[nutella]

[VOTE: dkkoba] aubergine - confirm me town here and sheep me. thx

ok somebody get that fol meme

[Grogu]

Okay, I tried my best to play this game and not deal with mental issues. This has not happened, though I did my best to avoid that. I will ask that you kill me today, I do not wish to be rude and obviously somehow I have been, and it's my fault. Bye

Omega nooo come back. Is not that serious, just ignore tuttu. I’m sure they don’t mean to offend just come across as rude is all.

[nutella]

I think one of two things is happening.

1. Grogu is also town, and the people who started this train that he and I are together, have to be the mafia team, which I hope so, it would be super ez

2. Grogu is the mafia who is being thrown under the bus as the lowest poster of the team and the one with the lowest cred, so the rest of team is trying to attach me to Grogu because eventually grogu maf would die anyways.

@Grogu You and I need to discuss this, and come to the conclusion here. If you and I are town this game is very simple for us both.

I have said this plenty. It is not easy scum team.
We are getting played. I do not have those skills. I have also raised concerns about the people the others have pushed.
I ended up settling on Ellie yesterday, but had a suspicion on jagged and others leading that bothered me. I wanted to see what Ellie flipped first to see if I was just wrong.

Yeah I think this is just mafia

[Esooa]

my are you trying to spew your partner was sarcastic if it's not noticable

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I think it comes off like a "gotcha" to me and snap votes at this point in the game on the basis of something like that feel a bit bunk.

But whatever, I need to return to analysis. The dialogue in the thread right now is not helping me much.

[nutella]

nutella/Omega/tutuu/nanook/JJJ
figure it out
in that order

im not gonna hold ur hands anymore

i think you have at best one there lol

[DkKoba]

[VOTE: dkkoba] aubergine - confirm me town here and sheep me. thx

ok somebody get that fol meme

come on i know u wanna vote me

[nutella]

i can imagine a world with two of those i guess but i dont think so

[nutella]

my vote is staying on alison. sheep me for glory

[JaggedJimmyJay]

my are you trying to spew your partner was sarcastic if it's not noticable

it wasn't and now I'm more confused but okay

[tutuu]

I don't want to say too much here out of fear of making things weird, but Koba, Omega, and Tutuu all kind reacted this way entering thread as the PoE moved towards them.

Not sure what you're talking about

When you said I was corny/cringy for vote analysis you seemed at least a bit annoyed from my pov

Yea dude because you were arguing that I'm mafia by calculating the odds of mafia randomly shooting and coming to the conclusion that if the Mafia randomly shoots they are less likely to attack tutuu than to not attack tutuu

[DkKoba]

whatever im off to cool off before i say something i regret

[Esooa]

I think it comes off like a "gotcha" to me and snap votes at this point in the game on the basis of something like that feel a bit bunk.

But whatever, I need to return to analysis. The dialogue in the thread right now is not helping me much.

but I already said I thought grogu was very scummy today

[Grogu]

I will be doing four deep ISO dives into players I think seriously need to be reviewed. I will be doing nothing else during this game day.

Let me state this first, I am not doing any of these deep dives to get someone baked. I want to be voted and killed; I don’t want to socially interact in the game currently. These are for people to look at for what I think after I flip town. I don’t like being told that I am not a positive in game, and I want to make sure I at least help town win the best I can. Do not ask me questions or ping me please. I will be posting 4 deep dives hopefully.

@DaughterOfOmega dont waste your valuable time in me please. Trust me I am town.
Focus on more unconventional targets.
Look at made, essoa, jagged, tuttu etc

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@DaughterOfOmega dont waste your valuable time in me please. Trust me I am town.
Focus on more unconventional targets.
Look at made, essoa, jagged, tuttu etc

I treasure you, Grogu