Amdibals at the Zoo! [END]

#1951

Day 5 has ended. DrWilgy was chopped. He was:

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Night 5 is underway and will last 24 hours. THREAD IS LOCKED.

#1952

Night 5 has ended.

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Day 6 is underway and will last 48 hours. Poll up in a few minutes.

#1953

Welp

I’ll do world building later ig

Was low key hoping I’d die in the night but

#1954

If I don’t try hard today broseph will probably be mad at me so I guess I better do that kek

#1955

I really wanna say it’s just as easy as Colin and Alison but like

Proto dying in the night is super on the nose for that world kek

Maybe I need to actually consider carotte idk

#1956

uuuh i was. not expecting to see proto flip

#1957

He probably disrupts status quo the least I think

Idk it’s a weird kill but not that weird

#1958

argh I started to be pretty confident in Alison/proto world tbh

I still think Alison is just always wolf here

#1959

Idk maybe

But I have to consider a world where it’s you, yeah?

I don’t really want to kek

Ugh I’ll probably just reread broseph and sheep his reads tbh

#1960

This sucks. Someone fooled me and I have no idea whoooo. I think I'll just go through all the possible combinaisons and see which one is the most plausible.

#1961

Possible pairs:
Alison/Colin
Alison/Nanook
Alison/tedxtr
Colin/Nanook
Colin/tedxtr
Nanook/tedxtr

First thoughts:

* Pretty much everyone picked a fight with Nanook... ? I guess it might be distancing attempts with Nanook being confident in his survival abilities but like. I kinda just want to think he's just town.

* Does w!tedxtr force a Wilgy/him thunderdome knowing Wilgy will flip town and that it's gonna look bad for him? Before that, I think votes were like 1-1-1-2 or like 1-1-1-1. Him, Nanook & Colin weren't really in danger so if there's a partner he was trying to save, it was Alison. Why wouldn't they just try to make me chopped instead though? To make me be the winning mischop? ... maybe that's why proto died actually. hmn. Anyway, if tedxtr is wolf, it's probably with Alison.

* I'm realizing that Colin has played a pretty... peaceful game. Like, from purely his side of interactions I don't think there's anyone I would feel comfortable to call not w/w.

* Basically I think there's 2 main scenarios here:

1) 112 & Alison were w/w. If that's the case, I think they would be trying to save Alison over 112 since she was more likely to recover. It's a pretty rough start for scum team so I would expect them to bank a lot on getting deep and holding strongly to the "towncore".

2) 112 & Alison were v/w. That points to a team that didn't have lots of presence. There's probably a busser trying to go deep and the other one just... Try to survive? idk if that's the case we were just all really bad and it kinda hurts

#1962

[VOTE: Carote] aubergine

#1963

Actually, for option #2, the only busser left is Colin. He is probably not paired with tedxtr since in that case they just needed to feed the Alison/me conflict, nk Nanook and then enter F5 in a pretty comfortable position.

Colin-Nanook is unlikely.

For all non-busser there's Nanook-tedxtr. Unlikely for the same reason than Colin-tedxtr.

So yeah, I don't see a world where Alison isn't a wolf.

#1964

Hmmmn Colin agreeing with my takes throughout the game and then opportunistically switching to voting me when I get heat probably confirms Alison/Colin are the wolves!!

I don't want to get ahead of myself though. I'll take the time to ISO all the Alison possibilities before EoD, probs not tonight though.

#1965

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:48 pm Hmmmn Colin agreeing with my takes throughout the game and then opportunistically switching to voting me when I get heat probably confirms Alison/Colin are the wolves!!

I don't want to get ahead of myself though. I'll take the time to ISO all the Alison possibilities before EoD, probs not tonight though.

There is no heat. I am the sole source of heat right now.

I’ve been wrong about most things since 112’s chop ... including your alignment.

#1966

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:50 pm
Carotenoid wrote: ↑Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:48 pm Hmmmn Colin agreeing with my takes throughout the game and then opportunistically switching to voting me when I get heat probably confirms Alison/Colin are the wolves!!

I don't want to get ahead of myself though. I'll take the time to ISO all the Alison possibilities before EoD, probs not tonight though.
There is no heat. I am the sole source of heat right now.

I’ve been wrong about most things since 112’s chop ... including your alignment.

And you happened to switch your mind at the exact moment Wilgy and Proto wanted me gone?

#1967

Wilgy and Proto are dead though?

#1968

It ain’t worth arguing with me, you’re caught red handed. And if I change my mind it’ll be because of sudden inspiration, not anything you or anyone else says. Sorry!

#1969

This no u is so transparently fake. Nice try but I, uh, caught you and it only took me all game

#1970

Goodnight.

#1971

Well, if you're town I hope you get a sudden inspiration. You're probably just mafia though

#1972

~27 hours before EoD1

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:47 pm
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112
3
19%

Voters: nutella, Amy, ColinIsCool

Alison
1
6%

Voters: tutuu

Amy
2
13%

Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, MacDougall

Carotenoid
1
6%

Voters: Turnip Head

ColinIsCool
0
No votes

Voters: None

MacDougall
2
13%

Voters: TonyStarkPrime, protocultures

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
0
No votes

Voters: None

nutella
1
6%

Voters: tedxtr

protocultures
0
No votes

Voters: None

tedxtr
0
No votes

Voters: None

TenThousandCalories
1
6%

Voters: 112

TonyStarkPrime
0
No votes

Voters: None

Turnip Head
0
No votes

Voters: None

tutuu
1
6%

Voters: Alison

Urist
0
No votes

Voters: None

No chop
0
No votes

Voters: None

No vote / Unvote
1
6%

Voters: Urist

~8 hours before EoD1

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 12:19 pm Votecount
112 (3): nutella, Amy, ColinIsCool
Alison (2): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, tutuu
Amy (1): Turnip Head
ColinIsCool (1): TonyStarkPrime
MacDougall (2): protocultures, tedxtr
Turnip Head/DrWilgy (3): 112, Alison, Urist
Urist (1): MacDougall

112 & Alison voting Turnip Head together is making me shiver. Could it be w/w? hmmn maybe.

Alison & 112 ignored the other's wagon until EoD. Alison had a stay on tutuu and switched when it was clearly not picking up. Second votecount shows that they did try to save 112!

#1973

Anyway rest well, heading off to sleep as well!

#1974

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

#1975

I'm like 95% on it being Carotte/ted now. Wilgy flipping V probably means Ted is W. I have to admit at this point that the odds of that being V/V is low, no matter how much I want to townread ted for his play earlier. (I have good reasons to townread nook and Colin too, so one of those townreads has to be wrong.) Carotte not re-evaluating her read on me at all in light of proto's flip does not make sense if she is town. If I am scum with Colin, why not just blast nook and let proto attack Carotte? Why townshield proto all game against lots of outside suspicion when I could easily let him die, only to kill him a night before ExLo?

No nightkill that has been performed this game makes sense if I am scum. Carotte has to know this. She also has to know that I have the solve if my towncore is correct. So she comes out and immediately attacks me, because that's what she realized she had to do.

I have good reason to believe Carotte is scum and Ted is scum, and I have good reason to townclear both noom and Colin. This is the way.

#1976

[VOTE: Carotte] aubergine

#1977

Well broseph isn’t helpful his scumreads are dead town

Tbf they were mostly my scumreads too

Pending reread of carrote I’m probably at [VOTE: colin] aubergine being one of the mafia

#1978

Nook, what makes you think Colin is mafia?

#1979

Good morning.

I was instrumental in the 112 chop, and I continue to be lock town as a result, despite my inability to catch the rest of the team following.

See ya later.

#1980

Yeah I’m just ride or die with carote at this point and if they’re mafia you can yell at me about how obvious they were in post

Pretty sure colin is one, not sure if alison or ted is the second.

[mention]Carotenoid[/mention] can we do colin first, please? Pretty sold on him being mafia, combination of the resistance to doing him today and 112 scumreads on D1

#1981

This is hard because I actually really want to townread colin on tone, but like

I can’t get past the 112 stuff I don’t think so

#1982

I low key hate that I have to make this decision lol, I’m in like the worst position to

#1983

I guess there’s no real reason I’m ruling out an alison/carote team going for the f5 cross bus to seal the deal at f3.

But, like...I think that’s probably a losing play for them, so idk

I’ll try to think more about teammate permutations later maybe, I don’t have enough time to figure this shit out properly but I feel like I owe broseph and co. at least an attempt

#1984

Like the level zero easy world is either Alison/colin or carote/ted

Idk if scumAlison ties herself to her partner that strongly or not

I also hated alison’s “I have to reassess everything...my towncore is the same plus nanook” tbh that was really weird

#1985

here for a bit

game state is very weird - me not being a point of contention for now is certainly surprising, although pleasant, I guess.

#1986

I mean

You are sort of just not directly lol

#1987

But yeah I’d love to hear thoughts about alison tbh

#1988

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 1:14 pm I mean

You are sort of just not directly lol

actually true

there's still a chance I get wagonned later on - it's kinda unsettling that I won't be there to answer to problems with my slot if that ever occurs, schedule makes it hard to be there during the latter part of the day

#1989

Yeh I feel that

I’ll be around late tonight for a bit if you are too let’s real time, I don’t have a super confident read on you tbh

#1990

In the meantime I’d love to hear where you are rn

Especially on alison but on anyone tbh

#1991

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 1:24 pm In the meantime I’d love to hear where you are rn

Especially on alison but on anyone tbh

sure

I think today makes sense in very specific worlds that mostly include Alison

Looking back on it her approach was opportunistic, if she's a wolf that knows Wilgy flips town then of course she'd side with me there. Struggling to figure out why her read of me would change just because Wilgy flipped town. I basically am a villager regardless of what he flips, her reason for town reading me shouldn't change her read on me today, if that makes sense? It looked like a predatory shift for today in order to seal the deal at F5, I don't get why she is flip flopping so much on it given that she was the one to start the idea that me and Wilgy could be v/v in the first place. Seems disingenuous.

She said I'd never do that as scum (true) and she doesn't see the benefits. The read changing when the reasoning didn't just looks wolf indicative. It doesn't make sense at all.

Also, I thought her read on you was pretty horrible - I still struggle to grasp the depth of it and it's just a silly read to make with such confidence on D5, unless she had good reasons to suspect the lower half of the PoE, which she looked like she didn't for the most part.

The one thing I question though is why she'd take the Carotte tunnel as a scum over me? The only explanation I can really find is that maybe Carotte unravelled her team and so she panicked and went at Carotte because she was scared, which doesn't look very realistic given what I heard about her. Although maybe that would add an element of WIFOM that would distract us from the fact that a proto kill is a kill that Alison always makes.

#1992

Actually, an Alison / Colin world makes a lot of sense and her going for Carotte her seems on par with that. Colin already had Carotte pinned as a vote since yesterday - there's no reason to make him look weird by switching when Alison can just do that instead and just say me and Carotte are likely to be together, prevents her from actually being scrutinised for her Carotte read and can just be like "well it's this or the other"

Her actual read of Carotte iirc was blatant OMGUS but there's a chance I'm blowing it out of proportion. May have to recheck that one, but it was something amongst the lines of "You wouldn't think I'm scum based off me being alive" and building off that.

#1993

I still manage to remain baffled as to why you're not being pushed more here.

From my PoV you've been anything but villagery and the argument of "he sheeped Mac lol" isn't really cutting it for me ; especially when Mac seemed to have terrible reads for the most part.

this game is fucking weird - everyone town reading you here is asinine and it verges on the edge of TMI from the scum team or straight up the town is just bad for not seeing it

I really don't get why you're being given the carte blanche. If anything, currently, you also do fit with Alison.

#1994

So the main problem is that Proto makes the most sense for both carote and Alison given his scumread on carote and his “kill alison at 5” thing

So like...I’m kinda loathe to read into Proto kill too much tbh, cause it makes sense for any team that isn’t ted/colin to kill him

#1995

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:01 pm I still manage to remain baffled as to why you're not being pushed more here.

From my PoV you've been anything but villagery and the argument of "he sheeped Mac lol" isn't really cutting it for me ; especially when Mac seemed to have terrible reads for the most part.

this game is fucking weird - everyone town reading you here is asinine and it verges on the edge of TMI from the scum team or straight up the town is just bad for not seeing it

I really don't get why you're being given the carte blanche. If anything, currently, you also do fit with Alison.

My assumption is that scum didn’t want to fight broseph and decided it was easier to try and pocket me than to get me killed

Idk man I don’t fully understand why I’m in the position I’m in either tbh, sometimes it is not ours to question why and simply ours to accept and move on as best we can

#1996

Like me being in a position to make decisions here is uh

Not ideal for town tbh, cause I just haven’t/don’t have time to really dive into and invest in this game.

So like...I can see why scum would probably be ok with it. I’m not 100% sure why whichever of you two are town is tbh, but like...I’m not questioning it at this point, and I’m basically TMIed town so

#1997

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:07 pm Idk man I don’t fully understand why I’m in the position I’m in either tbh, sometimes it is not ours to question why and simply ours to accept and move on as best we can

Problem is I really am not that type of person, I'm not really fine with staking the game on a read that I don't understand.

#1998

If we're gonna trust that read ; at least I'd wanna vote Alison over Colin, just in case you're scum with Alison trying to direct a yeet onto Colin.

We may give you space here but I'm most certainly not letting you dictate the outcome of today's yeet either, sorry not sorry

/shrug

#1999

I think Alison has more individual wolf equity than Colin here.

where's your head at?

#2000

I put my vote on Alison for now - seeing as I don't know when I'll be back or if I'll be back

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