Jack Attack Mafia (Day 5)

[Millium]

[mention]Alison[/mention]
you never responded before if I recall
is this the same Alison that was in the Chief Delphi Magika Madoka FM game?

[Alison]

[vimeo][/vimeo]

@Alison
you never responded before if I recall
is this the same Alison that was in the Chief Delphi Magika Madoka FM game?

Yeah, that was me. Why do you ask?

[Alison]

(You can tell by how the name, avatar and homesite are all the same.)

[Millium]

[vimeo][/vimeo]

@Alison
you never responded before if I recall
is this the same Alison that was in the Chief Delphi Magika Madoka FM game?

Yeah, that was me. Why do you ask?

nice to play with you again
and no reason, but I expect us to probably butt heads throughout this game though
if you are in fact town lol

gotta go grab food

[Alison]

because just because i find it that way doesnt mean it actually is. im not lc, i dont know him, idc

i dont have any confidence in reads i make off these sorts of things. i will wait and see

This sounds in line with your playstyle, more or less, so I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here. If both you and LC end up being scum I am going to hound you to follow up on your stated reads every time we play together from then on.

[Hally]

because just because i find it that way doesnt mean it actually is. im not lc, i dont know him, idc

i dont have any confidence in reads i make off these sorts of things. i will wait and see

This sounds in line with your playstyle, more or less, so I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here. If both you and LC end up being scum I am going to hound you to follow up on your stated reads every time we play together from then on.

fair enough

[Alison]

[vimeo][/vimeo]

@Alison
you never responded before if I recall
is this the same Alison that was in the Chief Delphi Magika Madoka FM game?

Yeah, that was me. Why do you ask?

nice to play with you again
and no reason, but I expect us to probably butt heads throughout this game though
if you are in fact town lol

gotta go grab food

If it means anything, I was genuinely unmotivated that game. It was spammy, I didn't click with any of the players, and I had to deal with elijah trying to wriggle out of a lynch by falsely claiming his grandmother died or some shit followed immediately by witnessing him OGI to spew his alignment, forcing a modkill. Needless to say Iost the will to play after that and just ended up "subbing" out (not going over when the game moved sites). So, very different circumstances between these two games. Hopefully none of the things that happened in that game will be true here.

[Long Con]

What if she's scum and I'm not?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

What if she's scum and I'm not?

Are you referring to FG? What do you think of FG?

[KitsuShel]

I've only seen a few HC Realms games granted, but they had pretty crazy ratios. I remember colonialbob's Christmas game from 2016 was 9:4:1:1. That's not to suggest the balance was bad (town won) -- the mechanical nature of HC Realms games means different stuff works.

Now, this is something I can safely attest to. Our numbers are different than yours it seems. We usually have a town, a serial Killer (duos have actually been popular lately), a vigilante, and a mafia (3-5 players depending on the size of the game.) Also depending on the theme and size of the game are other neutral roles.

[Alison]

[ytubehd][/ytubehd]

What if she's scum and I'm not?

It mostly depends how exactly Hally approached it and why she chose not to vote you. Whether it's wanting to get a scum buddy off the hook, not wanting to be involved with lynch of someone who flips town or just not wanting to get her hands dirty as scum.

The point is: if you flip scum, Hally, you aren't going to fool me with this act a second time.

[Alison]

Mobile sure does love attaching random tags to the top of my posts.

Let's induct KitsuShel into the town circle. Everyone likes them and I think their wolf equity is extremely low. Any objections?

Also last post for the night so I won't be a total hypocrite when I say not to spam.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

My town circle is everyone not in my POE pool. All-inclusive.

[Long Con]

What if she's scum and I'm not?

It mostly depends how exactly Hally approached it and why she chose not to vote you. Whether it's wanting to get a scum buddy off the hook, not wanting to be involved with lynch of someone who flips town or just not wanting to get her hands dirty as scum.

The point is: if you flip scum, Hally, you aren't going to fool me with this act a second time.

Just making sure.

[Hally]

What if she's scum and I'm not?

It mostly depends how exactly Hally approached it and why she chose not to vote you. Whether it's wanting to get a scum buddy off the hook, not wanting to be involved with lynch of someone who flips town or just not wanting to get her hands dirty as scum.

The point is: if you flip scum, Hally, you aren't going to fool me with this act a second time.

Just making sure.

what is your read on me?

[Long Con]

I believe your Miller claim

[TonyStarkPrime]

ok i made that vote before seeing epi's last post which is nai anyways but this is the same epi i saw in ac so... yes. anyways there we go. a productive vote

animal crossing

[TonyStarkPrime]

I'm going on a walk at seven so let's see if I can catch up before then

[Sloonei]

Hi Jacks and Jackettes! Sorry for the late arrival, but I am your MoD for this game. If at any point you are feeling unjacked about anything in this game, or if you just need some place to blow off steam, my inbox is open to you. Enjoy yourselves, and best of luck to you all.

[Hally]

chef sloonei! o/

[TonyStarkPrime]

hally has to be town. scum doesn't get a fake role claim that includes a miller part and then claim miller. it just doesn't happen. I have spoken. No more discussion on this is ever allowed.

[TonyStarkPrime]

seriously the post count in this game is obnoxious and we don't even have mp or anyone

[TonyStarkPrime]

KITSUSHEL
SABIE12
EPIGNOSIS
ALISON

bad
bad
bad
good

[DrWilgy]

hally has to be town. scum doesn't get a fake role claim that includes a miller part and then claim miller. it just doesn't happen. I have spoken. No more discussion on this is ever allowed.

No

[TonyStarkPrime]

DRWILGY
SPRITYO
SPACEDAISY
WISP

who
who
bad
good

[TonyStarkPrime]

COLINISCOOL
LONG CON
TONYSTARKPRIME

who
bad
good

[TonyStarkPrime]

NANOOK
FUNNYGURL555
JAGGEDJIMMYJAY
HALLY

good
good
good
good

[TonyStarkPrime]

If we set aside the "how does scum Hally know there's a Miller" question I think I'd be scumleaning on them. I do think their individual vibe is townie but their interactions with FG I think are scummy and it's easier to fake individual actions than interactions, especially with a scumbuddy.

I don't even think their individual vibe is townie. And yet...

[Millium]

[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention]
ohh looks like your game produced the first scum

[VOTE: TonyStark] aubergine

[sabie12]

seriously the post count in this game is obnoxious and we don't even have mp or anyone

I agree the post count is super crazy and hard to keep up with.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Also yes I agree there’s very likely at least one if not more scum in the zero to very low posters.

literally rand%

Why is that equal to a random distribution?

if we assume a 3:1 wolf ratio, there's likely at least a wolf in the low - no posters.

anyways everyone except you have too many "bads" to make sense really. 1. and 2. where the hell did spacedaisy's reads even come from? or the sprityo reads. are you guys really gonna miskill him again? i think the blanket suspicion is a good look imo but eh it's too early to form any type of read on that slot

y'all

y'all

It’s Day 0, I lean bad on people that I feel null about. Why would I be more trusting of people this early in the game?

false!
town confirmed

[TonyStarkPrime]

Ok, so. I’ve finally gotten through the entire thread. And this basically boils down to y’all chatting/arguing with each other and metagaming the first day? Or am I misreading?

its mafia? what should we be doing?
and what do you mean by meta-gaming?

if you are talking about mechanical reads
I got Hally at claiming miller
and whoever the dude that claimed doctor, as bad day 1 lynches

he's always a doctor

[TonyStarkPrime]

my thing with fg is

whatever she is doing... clearly is not working for her? yet she doesnt back down

why as a wolf does she continue to do this? arent there less conspicuous ways of wolfing than this?

im stubborn

I did this as a wolf in some game, same position as FG. Came into the thread with scum reads, starting scum reading the most townie player just to try to create some credit. It's meh.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Ok, so. I’ve finally gotten through the entire thread. And this basically boils down to y’all chatting/arguing with each other and metagaming the first day? Or am I misreading?

For the most part I think this has been about getting reads on each other. The game started somewhat spammy, but it has solidified into a well-oiled machine of Mafia work. Some of that is arguing and some of that metagaming, but not all of it. Do you have feelings about any players after catching up?

Gut feeling might be that sprityo, long con, and tony are scum.

Welcome To The Syndicate.

okay yeah this could have been lifted from pretty much any game in the last nine months

[TonyStarkPrime]

Mafia-aligned Long Con responded to suspicion from me with loud No Us in Take Me Out to the Ballgame.

Are LC and FG w/w in your mind?

[TonyStarkPrime]

there is no point in having cops when half the game is millers

the all millers thing sounds like a flavor thing added in because the host thought it was funny anyway

yeah there is, just cop the other half.

[TonyStarkPrime]

plot twist: the only people who show up as town are mafia members

[TonyStarkPrime]

lc isn't this melodramatic as scum, right?

*thinks back to AC*

yeah it's probably NAI

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Mafia-aligned Long Con responded to suspicion from me with loud No Us in Take Me Out to the Ballgame.

Are LC and FG w/w in your mind?

Could be. I have no reason off-hand to say they are not.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@JaggedJimmyJay
ohh looks like your game produced the first scum

[VOTE: TonyStark] aubergine

who

[Hally]

seriously the post count in this game is obnoxious and we don't even have mp or anyone

pssh mp has nothin on me i postwhore better than anyone

[Hally]

hally has to be town. scum doesn't get a fake role claim that includes a miller part and then claim miller. it just doesn't happen. I have spoken. No more discussion on this is ever allowed.

No

yes

[JaggedJimmyJay]

seriously the post count in this game is obnoxious and we don't even have mp or anyone

pssh mp has nothin on me i postwhore better than anyone

Spoiler: show

[TonyStarkPrime]

hally has to be town. scum doesn't get a fake role claim that includes a miller part and then claim miller. it just doesn't happen. I have spoken. No more discussion on this is ever allowed.

No

Wilgy!

[Hally]

i will cut down my posting though

i dont want people to feel frustrated they cant keep up

[TonyStarkPrime]

Mafia-aligned Long Con responded to suspicion from me with loud No Us in Take Me Out to the Ballgame.

Are LC and FG w/w in your mind?

Could be. I have no reason off-hand to say they are not.

They'd have to both be pursuing the same strategy with little interaction between the two of them and without a glance to anything else. Seems too on the nose.

[Hally]

seriously the post count in this game is obnoxious and we don't even have mp or anyone

pssh mp has nothin on me i postwhore better than anyone

Spoiler: show

ok that is insane lol

ive gotten 1000 posts in consecutive games but im pretty sure it would be impossible to get double that in any game ive ever played

[JaggedJimmyJay]

They'd have to both be pursuing the same strategy with little interaction between the two of them and without a glance to anything else. Seems too on the nose.

JJJ does not concern himself with "too on the nose".

[TonyStarkPrime]

They'd have to both be pursuing the same strategy with little interaction between the two of them and without a glance to anything else. Seems too on the nose.

JJJ does not concern himself with "too on the nose".

I saw that. Thinking about it.

[Hally]

Mafia-aligned Long Con responded to suspicion from me with loud No Us in Take Me Out to the Ballgame.

Are LC and FG w/w in your mind?

Could be. I have no reason off-hand to say they are not.

They'd have to both be pursuing the same strategy with little interaction between the two of them and without a glance to anything else. Seems too on the nose.

i was thinking earlier their non-interaction seems weird though? they both scum read jay but i dont see them acting like they “found” each other like id expect from two town in that position?

idk i think theres probably one wolf in those two at least